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One of the Greatest Companies of Our Generation is Flopping

The PS4, starting at $399, and the Xbox One, starting at $499, aren’t just doing better business because they’re flat-out better systems.

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RPG_Lover917d ago (Edited 917d ago )

Nobody is flopping. What we need to end are these factually and integrity bankrupt articles.

"The biggest reason Nintendo is losing out to the likes of PlayStation and Xbox is simply because they’re making inferior products. No video gamer would invest in a Nintendo product knowing that there’s something much better out there,"

Vita?

hellzsupernova916d ago

Yeah Nintendo aren't going anywhere anytime soon. However they need to change, their stubbornness needs to end. They make the best software on the planet yet they make some bad hardware, yes the wiiu is bad, it's overpriced nobody wants it, the games that are meant to save it haven't done a thing and it's always on smash bros will save it or Mario cart, but they never saved the GameCube.

If they dropped the game pad, dropped the price by 50% (cause apparently half of the cost of the device is in that stupid thing) and bundle it with smash bros and it will fly off the shelves.

Yes the 3DS is killing it but even that is failing to live up to their expectations.

Iwata needs to go, he hasn't done anything good in a while and doesn't seem to want to make a change. It's a tough pill to swallow but you know I'm only speaking the truth.

Utalkin2me916d ago

Sorry kid, once you said the WiiU is bad and over priced and the pad being "Stupid". Just shows your true colors as a gamer and really what kind of person you are.

hellzsupernova916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

@utalkin2me
Please stop the personal attack. Please point how how what I said says anything about who I am?
My first console was a game boy donkey kong is my hero! First game I ever owned! Played the hell out of smash bro on GameCube. Nintendo stopped talking to me with the wii, and now this abomination.
I want Nintendo to succeed I really do without them I wouldn't be a gamer, but now I mostly game on pc and playstation, and I don't have a lot of time so nintendos wiiu is not going to be an option at the price it's at.

Rockstar916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

I agree UTalkin2me...

When the Wii U came out I was excited like I was when I was a little kid. No more forced waggle controls, No more eye bleeding associated with poor picture quality on the wii etc. To me the old nintendo was back! I love my Wii U so it pains me to see how badly it's performing. I won't say I hated the Wii (I have one) but I was far from liking it. The fact that the Wii did better than the Wii U just blows my mind, it should be the other way around. Hopefully Ninty pulls up their socks and give people more incentive to get one.

Utalkin2me916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

@hellzsupernova

First off i did not attack you, obviously you're a defenseless type person anytime you communicate, which is obvious by how you project yourself.

I can not make myself any more clearer on your comment. I highlighted what you said and replied. Sorry you have problems understanding.

ShinMaster916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

Worst case scenario:
Nintendo dedicates itself to just handheld gaming. I don't think they're going anywhere.

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Irishguy95916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

Aye only the Wii U is flopping. And the reason is the lack of third party support and last gen leaving nintendos name where it is now. You can't just abandon hardcore gamers and expect them to want your next console. Casual gamers are fickle and follow the trend. We'll see who gets them out of MS and sony this gen

edit - It's not their 'fault'. They didn't mean to abandon the hardcore. But the third parties abandoned them. And Nintendo just made the same mistake again with regards to hardcore.

dotwithshoes916d ago

What did they do to abandon these so called "hardcore" gamers?

smoothdude915d ago

I don't think that Nintendo ever had those hardcore gamers. They have always been a family company and they have not changed their vision really. What has changed is the gaming demographics.

Stephamphetamine916d ago

Losing millions upon millions and not selling any wiiU consoles isn't flopping? Lol wiiU is dead, Nintendo soon to follow unless major changes,

smoothdude910d ago

Saying that Nintendo is dead because it isn't selling in the US is like saying Xbox is dead because it isn't selling in Japan. Dude you buy Nintendo for Nintendo games, and if you don't like Nintendo games, then don't buy the system! Simple solution LOL!

thezeldadoth916d ago

meanwhile i've played a few awesome games on wii-u. I've already played more on the WiiU than i have the last couple years on the other consoles. It's already been worth it to me, even if it goes downhill, which considering smash bros, mario kart, bayonetta, x, zelda, donkey kong...those could be the only games i play on the system and it would have been worth it

MasterCornholio916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

Bringing the Vita won't change the Wii Us situation.

Thats the truth.

P.S Both the Vita and the Wii U are selling way below expectations.

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amywelshcastle917d ago

Flopping is a little extreme don't you think?

Nintendo have plenty of back up reserves, and the 3DS is still the best handheld. The Wii U may not be doing so well but it's not the end of the world.

hellzsupernova916d ago

Gamers trying to talk business, you don't build up a big reserve to blow it on a failing console, the 3DS may be king but it is failing to live up to nintendos expectations.

hellzsupernova916d ago

Just for the record I mean the wiiu is failing not the 3DS

Utalkin2me916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

Kid, you really need to give your hate a rest. Kind of embarrassing really.

Maybe someday the admin will clean the multiple user accounts out.

hellzsupernova916d ago

Lol I have one account....what do you think my duplicate account is? Lol

torchic916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

thank you!

"Nintendo have $10bn in the bank!"

so? they have $20bn worth of outstanding shares; investors who Nintendo need to cater to. investors don't like seeing their investments bleed all over the show and Nintendo, being a public company, has the responsibility to make sure the company is always doing well and progressing.

I never understood this "$10bn in the bank" excuse.

Utalkin2me916d ago

Again you fail to read between the lines. I did not accuse you of multiple accounts. Sorry again you went into defense mode.

Chrischi1988916d ago

@torchic:

So, what should Microsoft and Sony do then? MS never stopped bleeding because of the console business and Sony had trouble to make the wound stop bleeding for more than half of the time they are in the console business... And Nintendo struggled one year with the Wii U, one device, not all of them, same can be said about Sony.

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Vegamyster916d ago

Pretty much, it's selling incredibly well and software sales are also very high yet people keep spouting "the end of Nintendo!" just because the Wii-U isn't doing very well.

Magnus917d ago

Nintendo might be sinking in one industry which maybe home consoles but they still have the handheld market which they are doing great at. Nintendo won't flop everybody loves their franchises too much. Every gamer has grown up playing some sort of Nintendo franchise whether it be Mario or Pokémon. And gamers from different generations have fond memories of Nintendo franchises.

If anything Nintendo might fallow the same path as Sega when the saddest day happened and Sega stopped producing consoles. And Sega seems to be doing very well at making great games. Other thing that might happen is Nintendo might write off the Wii-U and start a new with a new console. And have it on the same bar as PS4 and XB1. Who knows what Nintendo will do but they will not flop. Virtual Boy was a flop and Nintendo rebounded back after that. And Nintendo will rebound back with this problem they face.

Every console maker has released a console that does not sell well or screws up. Sony released the PSP go and Sony bounced back. PS3 had a slow start and Sony fixed that and bounced back. Microsoft had consoles cooking themselves with the RROD and they bounced back. Sega stopped making consoles and they dropped out and they bounced back in the developer and publisher market. Nintendo won't leave the videogame market too many gamers of different ages have fond childhood memories with their consoles and their franchises. Nintendo will bounce back. Same articles appeared when Nintendo released the 3DS and it wasn't doing well with sales. Articles popped up saying it was done it was over. But Nintendo fixed the problem and they bounced back. And now 3DS is a great selling handheld console I own one and I play it. Nintendo not flopping they just hit a bump and they will fix it.

RPG_Lover916d ago

Sony sunk in consoles for the last 10 years, yet here they are fine.

People over react. Sony is in a better position to do the Sega.

DragonKnight916d ago

"Sony sunk in consoles for the last 10 years, yet here they are fine."

Oh yeah, selling over 230+ million consoles in the past 10 years (PS2 + PS3) is really an immense anchor on Sony. /s

deafdani916d ago

@dragonknight: true, Sony sold lots of consoles... but they also sustained very heavy losses with them, especially with the PS3, which didn't even start to report profits for Sony until several years after launch.

Nintendo, generally speaking, has been a much healthier company than Sony and Microsoft's gaming divisions, even with home consoles, never mind their handhelds.

thezeldadoth916d ago

^whoever disagreed with this comment, is obvious fanboy troll

Chrischi1988916d ago

@DragonKnight:

Selling 230+ million console doesnt equal to making profit. Nintendo made profit on its flopping Gamecube, Sony needed like 5 years for the PS3 to create the first dollar for Sony. PS3 during its launch was sold for $600 and sony sold them at a loss of $200. You know, these companies are in that business to make money and not to sell a lot of consoles at huge loss.

DragonKnight916d ago

@deafdani and Chrischi1988: For one thing, can you point out where in Elemental's comment that profits were specifically being spoken of? And secondly, Sony's losses for the PS2 ended a LONG time ago, same with the PS3, so making a profit is making a profit. The point stands, Sony has NOT "sunk in consoles for the last 10 years."

That you would argue semantics shows a weak argument. Why try so hard to reinforce a clearly fanboyish comment designed to troll?

RPG_Lover916d ago

@DragonKnight

PS3 made 0 profit and in unit sales alone lost almost 90% of its market share. That isnt good.

DragonKnight916d ago

@ElementalKnight: Sorry but you're wrong. PS3 has been making Sony profit for about 2 years now, and no it didn't lose almost 90% of its market share. Stop pulling numbers from out of the void.

GameSpawn916d ago

People also seem to forget that the PS3 was a pawn to get Blu-Ray standardized.

Guess what? It DID. The PS3 is the SOLE reason HD-DVD is dead. The PS3 caused more and more people to buy Blu-Ray films, enough so for Time Warner (Warner Brothers) to make their decision to drop HD-DVD and go full on Blu-Ray. Time Warner was the domino the market needed and after Warner's decision the rest of the hold outs followed suit.

So the initial losses of the PS3 are FAR FAR FAR outweighed by the Blu-Ray licensing gains long after the PS3's lifetime.

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mediate-this916d ago

That was sega's own fault. They released three systems back to back. If nintendo rides out the wii u and supplys crazy games they will be fine.,

Gabenbrah916d ago

Nintendo is flopping? Last I checked, Nintendo are killing it with the 3DS and aren't in nearly as much debt as Sony, Sony are the ones flopping if we're talking about the 3.

rarity916d ago

You really hate sony don't you?

wonderfulmonkeyman916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

He's right, though.
Check their financials; despite the PS4's success, it isn't pulling them out of their debt hole.
Whether you think it's bashing or not, it's a plain fact that Sony's finances are worse than Nintendo's, despite the Wii U's underselling performance.

thezeldadoth916d ago (Edited 916d ago )

@ssj4fox
i'm not sure whats worse. your fact ignoring comment, or the fact that 5 other people hit agree. you troll douches are gonna ruin the industry you claim to love

live2play916d ago

you really hate FACTS don't you?

DeadIIIRed916d ago

None of these companies are going to "flop." Worse-case scenario they'll be restructured or sell off certain divisions. Nintendo may stop producing home consoles, but they'll be major players in handheld gaming and software for a long time.

kewlkat007916d ago

Nintendo been in the game for the longest and out of all competitors, they can afford a flop. Just learn from it and rebound. It's not like they cannot. They have the IPs and still King of the handheld.

Beastforlifenoob916d ago

The entire wall street flopped in 1 year...

It had $350 bn in the bank (about 35x larger than Nintendo)

Anything can flop, anything

Chrischi1988916d ago

Not only that, but I wonder if any other than nintendo of the 3 could afford a failing system. MS would probably leave that business or sell the console devision right away, I mean they are close to selling it, even though Xbox sells fine. And Sony is not what one would call a financial stable company.