Woodstock-based hardware retailer Other World Computing released four upgrade kits dedicated to the PS4, offering four different ways to upgrade the stock 500 GB HDD coming with Sony’s New Console.
Yep 1.5 TB damn the unexpected nice one and faster ssd oh damn definitely buy this PS4 now
Samsung's (Seagate) compatible 2Tb is still TBR. It's only 5400rmp tough.
I currently have a 1.5tb hdd for ps3 and ps4. With ps+ and all digital games I can tell you I'm going to need samsung's new 2tb. And they're both 5400 rpm but not once have I noticed any slowdowns or commented I wish I had a faster hdd.
They may be slower spindle speeds, but all modern drives at least use perpendicular stacking to gain a higher density on the platters, and therefore better transfer rates. Its fast enough for you old man.
Has anyone figured out how to mirror the old drive to the new drive so that we don't have to re-download everything? That's what is keeping me from upgrading right now.
@inveni0 That should be easy really. Not sure if it works, but I believe you should be able to hook them up to your PC and then drag and drop or copy/paste everything over to the other one. There is also a thing called ghosting that could work. It clones everything on a hard drive onto a new one. I think they have a program for that as well. I have not tried either method though honestly. I used to ghost hard drives for school awhile back. I am uncertain on how the process goes. It was awhile ago.
I just think that its so awesome that we can change out the PS4's Hdd with bigger, faster, hdd's. Genious.
will buy the 1.5 TB since i plan to download a lot of stuff from psn
Ssd ftw. External HD seems dated by comparison.
As long as you don't get the 240 GB option, that one really looks a little tight to me.
I only put bigger games with load times on my ssd for my pc. I can always move the files around later. Ssd is gettin cheaper, but it's still pricey for the quality stuff. A TB Ssd would be great if it wasnt so expensive.
Yeah, I'd go with a TB hybrid over these options.
@JohnnyTower Damn right! I just got a 120gb SSD from Amazon for 55£ so they ARE getting cheaper. But still far too expensive to buy one with large capacity..
seems like a waste to spend money on a kit when you can just buy the HDD for less money... are there seriously a lot of people out there who don't have a small screwdriver, and spare USB stick lying around?
I actually checked, at least on newegg the same drives cost more and they don't have the kit.
i suppose it depends on the brand of drive you buy, too. i spent $120 on my 1.5 TB drive for my PS4 (it's the same brand as the stock HDD that comes with the PS4). edit: i would love to have a SSD, but they really need to come down in price before i'm willing to buy one.
It definitely looks like a good idea. Will probably need to upgrade sooner or later. Not a huge PC guy, how much faster are load times on SSD?
@EBTpickle: they say 25%, IMHO not worth the expense for a SSD for now. But your mileage may vary.
@EBTpickle You have to keep in mind SSDs have a limited amount of rewrite on it too, so with constant saving and installing on the drive would kill it a lot faster than a standard HDD. Unless of course they have increased the life span of them now i guess but i havent heard of anything about that.
Thanks guys, I was going to say it's not a bad price, but I like being able to clear room on my hard drive if I need to. Seems like a negative trade off in the end I guess.
EBTPickle: shouldn't worry about the write limit by now, it's at a point in which a SDD with normal usage will last you several years anyway.
@ EBTpickle It depends. Since HDDs are traditionally a bottleneck, an SSD helps widen that bottleneck. But on the other hand, PC games have - for the last several years - been becoming more RAM and GPU intensive to help alleviate that bottleneck. It's a noticeable difference, but if you had the choice between an SSD and spending that money on more RAM or a better GPU, the RAM/GPU will offer a more noticeable boost @ MRMagoo123 Not true. SSDs are to the point where they have roughly the same lifespan as a hard drive. And if you shut down and start up your PC like most people do (which is the cause for the most wear and tear on an HDD) then the gap narrows because SSDs have no moving parts and therefore no inherent wear and tear from booting up.
Man, the SSD option just isn't sensible yet. 240GB for the PS4 isn't enough, and spending the price of the console itself for 25% faster load times and a little less space is daft, frankly. In 2 years, SSD prices should be <.50c per GB, I'd wait till then before I take the plunge if at all. Seriously, 25% better load times just isn't worth it. It makes a huge difference for PCs, though (~75% reduction in boot times).
Yeah, the SSDs are definitely something I personally wouldn't consider. Hell, I didn't put a SSD on my PC yet too. They're mostly for people that have a lot of disposable income to burn :D
You should do so for your PC. At least a 64-128GB for the OS and your main programs/some games. I'm not a snob when it comes to this stuff but when I had to use a regular hard drive for a week (while waiting for my new SSD to arrive) after selling my old SSD the speed differences were ASTRONOMICAL! Windows took so much longer to boot. Loading Photoshop felt like a chore. Everything just felt...slower...even opening things like the Control Panel. And this was while using 2 x 1.5TB 7,200RPM Seagates in RAID0!!! So yeah...consoles? Ehhh...SSD would make little difference but for a PC it makes ALL the difference.
I'd recommend getting an SSD soon. You can buy a decent 120GB SSD for under $100. You can use it for the OS and a game or two. That's what I did originally and it makes a huge difference. After that, if you need more space, you can do what I did and add an extra one and put them in Raid 0.
When I updated my OS harddrive to SSD, I never looked back. Windows starts up so fast now that it would be painful to go back to HDD.
Buy a Samsung Evo SSD 1TB and you will se some serious speed up. http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
I plan to change out my HDD to a 1 or 1.5 tb once I get a PS4. Is there a HDD cap limit for the PS4? Also, what has Sony said about external USB HDD support for games saves?
the limit is in the height of the HDD, and not so much the capacity. the thickest drive you can pop into the PS4 is only 1cm.
Its possible external drives could be supported later with a PS4 patch. PS3 external drives were not day one supported either I believe.
you can save your saves to usb, right now
I went with the 1TB SSHD (seagate) it was $108 on Amazon, when I got it a month ago. I can't justify spending close to that of the console just to go SSD, AND then be left with lower space capacity. Most the analysis put the SSHD performance inbetween the standard HHD and the higher performing SSD. So my choice was between more-space+some-speed, or more-speed+less-space. I chose more space, and more speed.
I've seen loading benchmarks before for PS4, loading times are a bit better but SSD's are a lot faster when used on PC. I guess the PS4 can't make proper use of the SATA 2/3 speeds of SSD's, but at least it gives a bit of a boost for people who would want it.
I believe the current theory is that it actually uses the USB 3 bus for the HDD rather than an actual SATA bus (despite using the SATA interface). SATA 3 drives should deliver max bursts 2X exactly compared to the stock SATA 2 drive, but the actual gain is only about 35%, in line with USB 3. Plus, it would explain why you apparently can't connect external USB powered drives.
where did you hear this? i'd like to read up on it myself
I got a Toshiba 1T in my PS4..Cost me $84AU...So would probably be $60 or so U.S.
Seagate 1 TB Hybrid is the go. SSD load times dont justify the extra price, or more importantly, smaller size.
The Seagate hybrid is quite popular, got the same one in mine.
I agree. Just put one in my ps4 a couple of weeks ago.
Is there a particular model number you would recommend or any 1 TB Hybrid from Seagate will do? I am looking to upgrade my PS4 to a Hybrid since SSD on the PS4 does not seem worth it at the moment. For a 480 GB SDD for $399, I would rather buy another PS4.
That one is quite popular STBD1000400
Thanks OrangePowerz! Going to check my local Fry's Electronics and see if they have one in stock.
Awesome news! I am planning to upgrade my PS4 HDD ASAP.
PS4 is so limited lul
where do you find 1.5 tb drives for it?and whats the ps4 stock hard drive brand?any help with this question would be great
i got myself a WD black 7200rpm 750gb hard drive for my ps4. most reliable fast hard drive with plenty of space and at. a good price (ssd hybrids tend to have slow spikes and other 7200 drives are way slower tham WD Black)
Don't you think that those drives (with 7200rpm) will produce more heat?
this is a great deal!
I watched a comparison video awhile back when looking into options a in most cases, ssd was just barely faster than hybrid which was cutting a good chunk of time off factory load times. I'd say hybrid is hands down the way to go
Considering how every disc game installs itself and with loading my media is still a few firmware upgrades away I need to seriously consider upgrade to 2 TB
i thought the same way. 1Tb does not represent as much as 500Gb did on PS3, but this is a Great deal! and is a hybrid model
True, but hearing that I can get 25% speed boost in loading time from a full on SDD. I will much rather delete stuff I dont use till they release one for a reasonable price next year.
lol upgrade kit. It's called a screwdriver.
You forgot about the hands
Enjoying my X1, but starting to lean ps4. Some way cool stuff going on over there!
ill just wait till the next model of ps4 comes out in 2 years with a 1.5 tb hard drive built in
I can't imagine that's the reason you would wait to get s PS4.
25%? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Just stay with Mechanical for now and get extra space, but SSD in my PC is like 5 times faster. Mavericks and Windows fully loaded in about 11 seconds
Not interested because you can only play one game at a time & when you have finished delete the game because most gamers only play a small limited online multiplayer games like Cod or BF , FIFA & you'd have enough room on the HD for them anyway .
I typically only play one game at a time. I'd need more hands and more eyes to multitask games well. I own most of the ps4 catalog of games/apps and haven't run into space issues. Looking for facts here when you mention most gamers only play a small limited online multiplayer games....that sentence kinda confused me anyhow so yeahhh....you're wrong.
With Playstation Now on it's way, I can't wait to play some of the PS3 games on my PS4(LOUS, GT6, etc.) so I order mine, I think $99 is a very reasonable price.
Just an fyi that PS Now won't be using much if any of your hard drive space so you might be better off saving the $99 if that was your only reason for ordering.
if I wait a while before getting a bigger drive will my save games be held in the cloud? I've noticed they upload somewhere
I'm not sure I could justify an SSD for just 25% speed loading increase... I'm just not that impatient to be honest. SSDs aren't cheap but I will get a small one one for my PC though.
The 1 TB SSD is a good deal for $99. It comes with a three year warranty and it does not void your PS4 warranty. Twice the storage and 25% performance boost I'm getting one. Wonder if they will offer a similiar deal for the X1....oh wait :(
Upgraded my PS3 and PS4 to 1 TB drives last week... The hardest part is formatting a HDD to 1 TB if you only have Windows 8 (OS does not support formatting for FAT32). Had to download a freeware app to do the format. Other than that, any monkey with half a brain could do the upgrade themselves with the instructions on Sony's web site...
They already have this 1.5tb for cheaper. There is also a 2TB from Seagate that will be the biggest hard drive for PS4 coming out this spring. I wouldn't waste time with the SSD its too small and the PS4 is already fast enough. http://www.amazon.com/HGST-...
It would cost as much as a PS4 to get significant space on a SSD.