Fergal Gara, Marketing Director of SCE UK, mentioned that the company might eventually do without physical games at some point.
Sony might go without physical games! I'm sorry to say just think another ten years until internet improves, and people will understand Sony I'm sorry to say but physical games are to be with us for a long time!
Let's not get way ahead of ourselves now!
That's what consumers did when Microsoft announced their DRM policies. And look what happened. :)
Lol and we should boycott steam too, and Xbox since they're gonna make everything cloud based
Yeah you gotta point.
So is that drm ????? I hate buying digital games btw
Yea it's on the horizon, this time in 30 transit will be all digital
I haven't bought a physical copy of a game in ages and probably never will again. I buy all my games digital on Steam, 360 and PS3. I bought GTA V digital on PS3. I think the only ones upset are gonna be collectors.
That's good for you. Question though. Why would it matter if retail goes away or stays because of your buying habits? People were upset over MS lack of ownership policies on the X1. Do you think that's going to change just because internet infrastructure can handle digital? Collectors, such as myself, like retail games. But it was made pretty clear that many people still prefer retail for their own reasons, and while more people may come around to digital like you have, it doesn't mean the rest of us should have to accept it just because it's the only option. Most reasonable people that prefer retail games don't go around telling digital enthusiast that they are wrong and shouldn't get games the way they prefer. We accept that it's a choice.
In the end retail is going away and it's gonna be digital only, you can fight it kicking and screaming, but it's going to eventually happen no matter what.
As long as physical is available, I will continue to buy physical copies of all my games
If anything, it becomes like music. Digital takes over, but physical is still readily there for the rest. If not, then guess I'll just find a new hobby.
Look, you are on a gaming forum so I highly doubt you are going to look to find a new hobby. Lets be honest here you are passionate about gaming. I think the more likely scenario is you would do your best to try and seek out a platform that uses physical media or has the least amount of restrictions but I am pretty sure you will keep gaming even if physical discs became extinct. You may hate it but you will keep on gaming. edit: OK, OK... sure he just may give it all up but being the betting person I am I just don't see "giving up" as the likely scenario. Changing how he games, where he games far more likely.
How do you know? If he says he will give it up, who are to say no he won't? If Sony ever stops making PlayStations, I will stop gaming on consoles and maybe altogether. I don't play on PC more than a few times a year, so if Sony goes, I do to.
Right now, I find it extremely hard to buy digital games. I just hate it. If a game is full price and digital, I won't touch it. I've had games that were literally 5 dollars, and I felt terrible after buying them. It just sucks to me, I rather have a collection in my house than on a hard drive. Same with comics, only reason I still buy them is to have a collection. I don't even use the free digital codes I get for them, I just go out and buy the physical issue. I'd have no problem still being involved with gaming, its just a matter of me buying less, if at all, and not being as involved in it as I am now. Taking physical out somewhat hurts the entire experience for me. you are right to an extent, I wouldn't just toss it out the door, I'd just be less enthused about it.
Then I might have to do without Sony.
And in that case, I'll stop purchasing their games in the future.
I just don't see it. It's not possible. Not until there's a way to buy digital, make backup copies, and not be required to be online while playing. And with companies going DRM crazy, they won't allow that.
its 100% possible...Steam does it now. Steam allows for offline play but there are DRM checks.
The day I can't buy a game and have the ability to sell it once I'm done, is the day I give up on modern gaming.
its the author saying that not sony. if anything sony will ask before doing not like ms.
Microsoft does it everyone freaks out. Sony does it they have an orgasm
The writing for this kind of move is definitely on the wall. Anyone who doesn't think the Playstation Now service coming to current systems isn't a test bed for the next Playstation is just in denial. Sony is launching this service now because they want to see how well it does, how many users take part, what kind of hurdles actually surface so they can iron out the kinks and most importantly they want to gauge if this service could become the "primary way" someone plays Playstation games. If they feel its viable then I have zero doubts PS5 is a 100% online downloadable and/or streaming of games system and no disc drive.
You are spot on.
You may be right. But it seems more like they are looking to expand their delivery methods to get the software into more people's hands. The fact that this could lead to PS4/5 games being played on any device is probably more a benefit to them than trying to eradicate retail. After all, software is where the money is made. They have a similar methodology with PS Mobile. it's all about expanding their user base, something that publishers are very keen on, and is the reason why so many developers publish on phones, tablets and PC's. Just sheer number of devices available makes it profitable. The bigger question is though, is PSNow something that will be viable enough to go all digital? It seems like it might be a pretty decent service if done right, and I'm sure it will change and improve as this generation continues, not unlike PS+ has done. However, I just don't see it being successful enough to completely overtake retail sales to the point where retail simply isn't profitable anymore.
I don't think that digital distribution will eradicate physical games from existence. Look at the music industry. I think that if any company tried this 'only streaming through the cloud' thing, they'd find it's more costly than they think.
Well, it wouldn't be streaming only. There could be a few ways to go full blown digital distribution. Music cds aren't as pricey as games & I wouldn't think they come close to the cost of making a game. I think the whole industry wants one big steam service or something like it. Better yet, make their own steam like digital distribution service, streaming, you name it. Anything to kill permanent games. It can still come on a disc & be vaporware in the future like PC disc games require steam.
Then I might do without Sony in the future.
Sony will not do away with physical copies. They will be losing a portion of their fan base via the ones who have limited or no internet access. They may focus more on streaming & only make physical copies of bigger budget games (AAA's, etc.), but that's it. Can you imagine if when games like GTAV released that they were DL-only? It's also not really about "collectors" being hurt over no physical copies, because the truth is that even if you have a 1TB drive it's going to get filled up rather quickly (updates, full installs, content, etc.). As for me, I just pick & choose what I want physical copies for & what I don't mind having as an install.
Digital games are so much better. More convenient: don't need physical space to store or time to move. Saves the environment: no need to transport, manufacture and store. Potential to be much cheaper: see above. More reliable: 0 digital games have been lost. They can just be redownload in the unlikely event of harddrive failure. Much faster to start gaming: What is it like 10 mins after clicking download on the new consoles? Or instant with cloud gaming. Compared to days waiting on delivery or a trip to the shop. The only plus for physical is being able to resell and lend to friends. The former should be offset by the cheaper price and to some extent the latter too. I'd gladly give up these small positives for the amazing convenience digital gives you.
"More reliable: 0 digital games have been lost. They can just be redownload in the unlikely event of harddrive failure." What do you do if the company no longer exists?
By that point your PC will be able to handle emulation and a rom will probably exist too. And I would have no problem torrenting a game years old that I owned at the time when the company no longer exists. Also, if you hold on to games from 10 years ago you'll be missing out on more advanced and possibly better experiences in the future. How often do you actually crack out the ps1/2? And how often does nostalgia fail to deliver?
I play older games (NES -> PS2) more often than I play new games, because I have more fun with them.
That's fair enough. It's kind of silly of me to assume new games are automatically more fun. But these games can all be emulated on PC, which will likely continue for every gen here on out. And there are now NES/SNES/Megadrive USB adapters and controllers if you want the near-full experience. Also, what do you do when masses of these consoles stop functioning and they become to rare to buy? I should have mentioned another big positive on the convenience side of things for digital is access to your games library anywhere in the world. Esp. with cloud gaming which can be played on any device with access to internet. I'll admit you are giving up some positives with physical gaming but for me they are simply far outweighed by the convenience of digital. I'm going to attempt to go all digital this gen as long as pricing permits.
I forgot a negative for digital, download caps and dodgy internet. Although we are clearly talking well into the future, like 5 years+ where the infrastructure should be slightly better. I get pretty bad internet where I live, like 5Mb/s max during off peak. But even that is fine for digital. Last physical games I bought were TLoU and GTAV but apart from that everything else has been PS+ or Steam downloads. In time, this will just get easier and for more people. I don't know why the majority on here are so against digital when the majority likely have better internet than me.
It's weird, I agree.
this will be gloom and doom if no physical... tell me what happened to PSP GO? Take a look at Onlive struggle to be survival but it will gonna be soon bankruptcy! SAD DAY!
Way to take a quote from somebody and completely blow it up out of context. He's saying that the trend is people are buying more content digitally and that one day they might buy everything digitally. He's not saying that Sony has any plans to stop offering physical copies of games but rather that it is possible that one day people will unanimously choose to be all digital. Music is overwhelmingly digital now, but you can still buy CD's and other forms of physical media.
I will always buy physical copies of anything! I still buy cds.. SOOO WHAT?!
You can see it coming. I think the big push for digital only on consoles is just to make more money. It's a way to resell/rent/stream legacy games for every generation of console released from here on out. I'm sure devs can't wait till the digital only future happens. For me, when consoles come without disc drives & force digital only games, I won't be buying another console or any of those games. There's no reason to do this. You can buy all your games digital now if you want them that way. Unfortunately it's looking like our rights are going to be stripped away here as well. The consoles will be glorified rental/streaming boxes. If I can't do what I want with a game (within reason) then why would I buy it? I just realized today that even on my PS3 I can't make a copy of the "Game Data Utility" folder contents where all my game patches are located. Well, I can but it will be encrypted to me current HDD only & I wouldn't be able to get the info on to any new PS3 nor would I be able to use it on a new HDD.
Whichever company is smart enough to take advantage of this, will win my & millions of other business....And all that company has to do, it either keep releasing machines with physical media, or if they aren't already in this business, they could come into it with a machine that offers physical media, as well as digital distribution. Someone like Samsung or the like would be a nice edition, especially if they bought out Sega & had there exclusives as a selling point. The Samsung Dreamcast 2..... We are still 20yrs away from going totally digital, in my humble opinion....At the moment, digital is a good side attraction, for smaller games, nostalgia based titles, & the like...But MOST people still want there games with cover & disk at retail.. Heres why ANY company that releases a machine this way in the near future WILL fail.. 1. People aren't ready for it, they want to own, hold, a physical copy of there games. 2. Any decent game, or blockbuster BIG title will use many peoples internet cap in just downloading that 1 title they want. 3. Many countries & parts of countries do not have access to decent enough internet, or internet AT ALL, to warrant this. 4. Many people won't hook a there childrens console up to the internet, then hand there credit card info over, for there kids to abuse. 5. This may have found success with pc gamers, with steam, but console gamers are a different breed & I simply don't see it working for a long while yet..& any company that does release a console that doesn't allow physical media will cut off a large chunk of install base. 6. OUYA...How many people have got one? And how many people are seriously dumb enough to buy a SteamBox? Not enough! 7. How big a HDD will our machines require when we have multiple 50-60-70gig games stored on them. I ran out of space with a 500gig PS3...So the day I got my PS4, I swapped it out with a 1T HDD...That will fill up quicker than a Kardashians [email protected] I am a multi console owner & gamer, BUT, my preference has always been towards Sony's consoles ( for controller & exclusive game reasons), BUT, just like I switched from Nintendo with SNES, to SONY with PS, I will not hesitate to switch to another brand as my favorite, IF Sony go this route....Sony HAVE NEVER done me wrong since PS1, they have always come though with awesome, genre defining, AAA+ exclusive games, & constantly with new IP's with each new gen.....SO this could potentially be the stain on there record that makes me switch. They better release physical media for PS5 AT LEAST, but PS6 & PS7 as well, as I don't believe this type of system has it's place for 20yrs, or 15yrs AT THE VERY LEAST.
And that is the day i quit gaming.I prefer to own physical when possible.
Just a thought, If other companies were to bring out similar services to all other devices, this could get more interesting. Say a company goes ahead, but brings Indie games & PC versions of third party games available to stream via subscription & then the App is available on the Wii U (like netflix is), then there will be no issue with Third party games on the Wii U...hmmmm infact...there will be no issue on any device! it will be the end of console wars & power won't matter!
If you take away the thing I love about console gaming, having a console & a collection of games playable for my lifetime then I won't be interested in console gaming anymore. Why would I be?
I will just give up gaming if or when that happens.
I enjoy nothing more than just occasionally, every now and again, dusting off my old Atari 800 and playing a game of MULE - gotta live in luxurious splendour! Pop a cartridge into my SNES for a quick blast of the best ever street fighter or so these rosy coloured specs would have me believe. Even reminisce what survival horror was really all about back in the day with a touch of the classic Res evil on my trusty PS1. Maybe it's just me, or maybe it's a generational thing - I am rather old you know, but my hobby of gaming started so many years ago, and each past computer, console and game, is a part of what makes gaming so enjoyable for me. I can't wait dig out my old PS7 in twenty years(god willing) and play a spot of those old classics again - oh wait...... Yes, digital only will come, but with it's arrival gaming will forever change, for some of us.
So less cost for them while the games will continue to cost 60$. Hmm...brainwash awaits. Present me your collection of games after 15 years...oh wait they are just memories.yeah.
As long as there is no Internet revolution with better bandwidth that is not capped by ISPs like here in Germany stuff like this will not happen. The Time for this is right when it's quicker to download a game then going to a store and buying it. And 1 more thing, better pricing then retail.
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