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Platinum Games Hideki Kamiya says the Wii U is not Harder to Develop for than PS3/Xbox 360

Platinum Games Hideki Kamiya, has stated that the Wii U is no harder to develop for than the Xbox 360 and PS3.

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gravelchalice1345d ago

Glad to hear a great director state this. He may be biased due to Platinum Games exclusives on the WiiU but I value his word.

Theyellowflash301345d ago

He has no reason to be bias. Remember, he still has games for the Xbox 360 he worked on.

LOL_WUT1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

They made an exclusive title for the WiiU possibly more in the works, they're under Nintendo's payroll not to mention it's the same guy who would like to work on a new Star Fox game... Yea not bias at all ;)

Theyellowflash301345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

Kamiya says whats on his mind. When he was upset with the advertising of this game, he said it.

Kamiya wouldn't lie, if it was harder to developer for, he would just say it.

-Foxtrot1345d ago

He has no reason to be bias....are you joking

Nintendo "saved" Bayonetta 2, he owes them a lot

Concertoine1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

@Foxtrot
@LOL_WUT
Well how about we let the results speak for themselves, bayonetta 2 is an incredible looking game, and a technical feat on the system considering it runs at 1080p 60 fps and looks better than any action game made up to this point. Hell, i'd argue its more impressive technically than Ryse given its also actually fun to play, and that game runs at 900p 30fps. Even W101 is a great game with a nice art style and tons of crap going on screen at once.

JackieCruise691345d ago

I agree, he's pretty straightforward, too if you ask me. Just from what I've seen on his twitter.. If You piss the man off, you'll know it. He doesn't seem to sugar coat anything or give PR shit.

So, I'd take his word.

-Foxtrot1345d ago

Jee guess the Nintendo die hard fans are out at full force today.

Saying he's NOT bias when he's created an exclusive game for them, Nintendo saved his game and the fact he's always saying positive things about them since they picked up Bayonetta 2.....come on guys lets not kid ourselves. If this was about Sony/Microsoft people would be calling the person in question bias no problem, do we always seem to let it slide when it's Nintendo.

@Concertoine

Your telling us to "let the results speak for themselves" yet you go onto saying something about the game despite not playing it yourself....right.

"given its also actually fun to play"

Not saying it's not because your comparing it to Ryse which looks crap gameplay wise but again you haven't played it yet calling people who are saying something about it despite them not playing it themselves. Double standards much

"Even W101 is a great game with a nice art style and tons of crap going on screen at once"

Wonderfull 101 was average at best, it was nothing special.

uptownsoul1345d ago

In addition to Nintendo saving Bayonetta2 (paying Kamiya), he (Kamiya) also needs to drive up enthusiasm for Bayonetta 2 because Bayonetta 1 went virtually forgotten AND Wonderful 101 (good game) didn't sell much either. Why do you think Kamiya has to pipe in to every major piece of news in the gaming community (this bit of news, and he has to constantly tell the same 10 port beggars to "F*** Off"). He's trying to drum up enthusiasm for Bayonetta 2, thats all

Concertoine1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

@Foxtrot
And yet there's been at least 2 other vocal, named devs now ALSO saying the system is easy to develop for. But no, you believe the anonymous guy on eurogamer who (may or may not have) made a freakin' launch title, doesn't even have the courage to show his own name. hell you even submitted the umpteenth article on this guy's impeccable, undeniable word. Capcom doesn't know how to make games, Platinum's biased, but this no-name is correct in your eyes?
I'm saying the game is impressive on a technical level, anyone can see that. Ryse is considered one of the better looking next gen games, but if you ask me, considering bayonetta 2 will probably be a good action game (given platinum's record) i find it more impressive. Not only does it run at better framerate and resolution but also probably plays better. This isn't me assuming so much as using logic and reason to predict that a game from a studio that has NEVER made a sub-par title, could in fact be better than a graphical showcase running at 20 fps with a 61% on metacritic. Call me crazy.
edit: and do you even own a wii u? how do you know whether or not W101 is "average at best, nothing special"? No offense, but the general consensus is that even detractors will admit it has a unique in depth combat system, it's just not for everyone.

Muffins12231345d ago

He is comparing a dev kit he works on compared to a dev kit that was 7 years ago,which one think is gonna be easir to develop on.

Justindark1345d ago

to the fox guy. ppl let nintendo slide? um what this site is everywhere is full of nintendo hate its crazy. when a zelda comes out ppl r like again? but when 5 a bunch of uncharted s come out in 5 years its a ni biggie? now you tell me who is let to slide? no one complains about all the uncharted s and god of wars like they do mario or zelda

ChickeyCantor1345d ago

Good grieve, LOL_WUT.

If it's a PS or a X1 developer making exclusive games you'd be praising them and not call it bias at all.

@Foxtrot
"Saying he's NOT bias when he's created an exclusive game for them, "

Why would he lie about the development? What gain is there for -us- gamers?

It didn't stop PS3 from selling when developers said it was hard to crack the hardware.

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Trago13371345d ago

Bias? Are you kidding me?

This is the same man that told Smash fans to fuck off numerous times.

He doesn't sugarcoat anything.

herbs1345d ago

All the complaining was in regards to incomplete dev kits before launch. The only reason it got so much attention is because media trolls and fanboys alike enjoy ripping on Nintendo. Capcom resently stated that dev time for Xbone and PS4 takes 8X the man power compared to 360 and PS3 titles but no ever brings that up...

DejectedJeff1345d ago

thats because it makes no sense lol.
by that logic, since all current gen games are 2-3 years dev times, next gen games would take 20+ years with the same manpower as last gen?

ChickeyCantor1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

@dejectedjeff,

So you're saying with the growth of complexity, current working environments are sufficient?

BTW they are talking about their MT framework. And are going to build a new engine.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory1345d ago

still cranky about that exclusive huh

it making U MAD

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

@-Foxtrot

Just stop. You are making yourself look pathetic.

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AngelicIceDiamond1345d ago

But I'm sure its harder to develop for than PS4 and X1.

-Foxtrot1345d ago

Capcom couldn't even transition into last gen properly. They didn't know how hard work HD gaming would be.

Look how much they've declined over the years

Theyellowflash301345d ago

Lots of developers had problems with the last gen machines. Bethesda still can't make a game without tons of bugs and glitches.

Last time I checked, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Dead Rising 1,Resident Evil 5, and Street Fighter 4 all played and performed quite well.

DanielGearSolid1345d ago

Never forgave capcom for skipping a ps3 monster hunter

Could've been so epic

Activemessiah1345d ago

Capcom couldn't develop for a potato if they tried.

MysticStrummer1345d ago

@Linchpin - I'm no huge Capcom fan, but Dragon's Dogma was damn fun.

-Foxtrot1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

@Theyellowflash30

"Lots of developers had problems with the last gen machines. Bethesda still can't make a game without tons of bugs and glitches."

Yeah but have you seen how big Bethesda games are in terms of size and content. Capcom couldn't do that if they tried, they'd rather sell the extra content as DLC or something

"Last time I checked, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Dead Rising 1,Resident Evil 5, and Street Fighter 4 all played and performed quite well."

Marvel vs Capcom 3 - Less content then previous games, not as fun

Dead Rising 1 - Good but average at best, lots of annoying problems plagued it

Resident Evil 5 - Decline of a once great franchise

Street Fighter 4 - Good game fair enough but the Super Street Fighter IV and Ultra Street Fighter IV just made them seem like greedy arseholes.

Lets look at their other games aswell

Lost Planet - Crap

Resident Evil 6 - Terrible

Megaman - They ignore it

dmc - Ruined it by outsourcing it

Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City - Horrible and buggy

Bionic Commando - Average at best

Dark Void - Pretty bad

I could go on, they've made some good games fair enough but the bad ones/average ones out weigh the good ones this gen

Theyellowflash301345d ago

@Foxtrot

it just sounds like you didn't like the content in the games.

Nothing you listed points to Capcom having problems transitioning to last generation from a programmers perspective.

RE5 - the decline of a franchise?

WTF does that have to do with transitioning to the next generation from a technical standpoint?

You just don't like the game.

Marvel vs Capcom 3 - didn't include as much content as previous games and less fun?

What the hell? That is just a opinion and has nothing to do with programming dude.

LOL, looks like you completely lost track of what the focus of the article was.

uptownsoul1345d ago

Capcom has turned into a mobile studio. So i wouldnt base anything on what they say

DCfan1345d ago

Other developers from around the globe say they're straightforawrd machines.

AngelicIceDiamond1345d ago

@Flash well he never said they were harder just more to do. And things will take longer.

Like I said Japanese aren't known for timely engine optimizations. They even said they focus first on the gameplay, art direction and the optimizations comes last.

Example how long did it take for Hideo to create the Fox Engine?

They even said they're slower at making games then there western counterparts, overall. Here's an interesting article. http://kotaku.com/american-...

Ok well this is all beside the point. I'm just saying consider Japanese track record for developing new games.

wonderfulmonkeyman1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

@DanielGearSolid
If you skipped on the Monster Hunter series just because it wasn't on PS3, you missed out on a great game because of console bias.

Tito081344d ago (Edited 1344d ago )

They're mainly talking about their MT Framework engine, which I don't think is necessaurily a good engine, and out of the games you just mentioned, SF4 is a Taito Type-X2 game, which makes the game totally separate from the rest. And so far, Capcom have only done MH3 on Wii U, which is an HD upgrade from the Wii version, I wouldn't take their word for it with the silly mistakes and bad business decisions they have done, they're so broke they made Breath Of Fire 6 as a phone game. They better find a partner company to merge with, stop making stupid business decisions, or it's over for them.

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WeAreLegion1345d ago

Cool. Once he makes a game as good as Devil May Cry, Okami, or Viewtiful Joe...I'll start listening to him again. What happened, man?

Metallox1345d ago

The Wonderful 101 it's a great game, it's not for everyone, but I think the game it's much better than Viewtiful Joe and DMC (nothing beats Okami). And ok, that's just my opinion, but it's full of quality, just as those games you mentioned are.

Summons751345d ago

Bayonetta and Wonderful 101 were both great game. Bayonetta taking the greatness of DMC and making it more challenging and W101 visually reminds me of Viewtiful Joe and has great gameplay to boot....so I have no idea where you thought he hasn't been making great games. I'd like a new Okami or a game like Okami on the WiiU, the gamepad would be great for drawing on the go.

Ultr1345d ago

Vanquish? One of the greatest experiences of the generation( for fast action fans at least)

DejectedJeff1345d ago

kamiya had nothing to do with vanquish.

DCfan1345d ago

How good was Viewtiful Joe?? Im thinking of buying it for my ps2.

Vanquis destroys every action game last gen

DejectedJeff1345d ago

it's pretty fun and very cheap, the gamecube version is preferrable though.

Ol_G1344d ago

Beter get gc version better fps

Venox20081344d ago (Edited 1344d ago )

viewtiful joe 1 & 2(not red hot rumble) are one of the best games I've played, dont forget God Hand as well with Okami

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GamingNerd0131345d ago

I'm going to say this I think Wii u as a whole is a amazing system with some great games on it. The only issue I have with wii u is the lack of 3rd party games on it. While I do like good looking games they simply don't matter to me as much if the gameplay is great. I just want NT to hurry up and release more new ips and have 3rd party devs make games 4 it otherwise it'll end being like wii but in much worse shape as it's not doing great with sales I mean it's been out a year and PS4 has sold 4.2 million in 2 months where I think I heard wii u is at 5.5 million pretty sad if u ask me.