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Be Careful About "So Called" 4K Monitors For Gaming

HardwarePal : As CES is wrapping up for this year, we have been brought a step further in the advances of technology.This years it was filled with numerous TV and LEDs both from big brand and smaller manufacturers. While there were enormous increases in the size of monitors most of the manufacturers weighed towards the 4K field.

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XiSasukeUchiha1348d ago (Edited 1348d ago )

So this site is saying that we are not getting true 4k?

WolfLeBlack1348d ago

Partially. Its pointing out that there's several screens, especially those in the lower price bracket, which claim to offer 4K resolution, but actually aren't.

It's also pointing out that for gaming you might want to wait a little, as most of the 4k screens would limit you to 30FPS. Companies like Sony are planning on upgrading to HDMI 2.0 to offer the higher refresh rate required for you to get 60FPS.

Finally most of the current 4k screens have an 8ms response time.

Gabenbrah1347d ago

Who buys Sony monitors? ASUS, Samsung and Dell are where its at.

Pandamobile1347d ago

Dell makes great IPS displays.

zpoc1347d ago

@zep

if you had any clue what you were talking about, you'd know that dell make some of the highest quality monitors in the industry - they're a standard alternative for people who don't want to pay apple tax on cinema displays but still want IPS screens with accurate colors and high resolution.

Nicolee1347d ago (Edited 1347d ago )

Dell monitors are high quality as far as i know and their customer service is one of the best .

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Lior1347d ago

Or you can just use a dvi cable for the monitor, HDMI 2.0 is crap and not even same standards of dvi

maddskull1347d ago

@gabenbrah sony has great monitors and TVs and they are the first company to make a full 4k set of devices from projectors to TVs and cameras and they will advance more by time.

Mithan1347d ago

8ms response time is more than adequate for gaming.

Mithan1347d ago

Dell makes some of the best PC monitors.

The 24xx series is one of the most beloved by gamers anywhere.

AndrewLB1347d ago

Mithan- They sure are. I own both a U2410 ultrasharp and an older 2407wfp. Both are a proper 1920x1200 resolution and are outstanding displays.

ddkshah1347d ago

@gaben

Sony DOESN'T sell consumer Monitors. Only TV's.

Pro Racer1347d ago (Edited 1347d ago )

I have an Asus MX239H as well as a Dell U3011 which are both fantastic. Dell IPS monitors are certainly among the best - NEC also makes some great professional quality IPS panels, but their price tag isn't for everyone.

Talidan1347d ago

Dell has amazing monitors. Computer systems? Ehh... much better out there for your money, but their monitors are just plain amazing.

r1sh121347d ago

yes - you are right, at the moment no 4K screen can do over 30fps.

Also smaller 4K screens like 26inch and below, you are hardly gonna notice a difference between 1080p and 4k.

hesido1347d ago (Edited 1347d ago )

Anectodal: my previous DELL (5 years old) had an excellent LCD, great viewing angle and response time with UXGA and good color reproduction. It was a true productivity laptop. My latest Samsung laptop (NP550) has an absolutely shitty LCD, with very bad ghosting and very bad viewing angle with very bad color reproduction. I ordered it off the internet, the specs were fine and I couldn't have guessed the screen could be this awful from Samsung.

Withdreday1347d ago

Well until we see even high end GPUs that can do 4k at decent framerates, I don't think it's worth it anyway.

Hell even the GTX Titan scuffles with 4k without at least a 2x SLI on games like Crysis 3 with barely 60fps, and those are $1000 a pop!

Until a high range GPU can handle 4k on more demanding games singlehandedly, I say it's nothing more than a gimmick that won't do much to improve the gaming experiences.

Once it does, then I'll bite.

SlapHappyJesus1347d ago

@Gaben

The new BenQ monitor has been the best looking, not to mention, performing monitor I have had the pleasure to use.
That side, the overall visual quality certainly doesn't hold up to my LG ultra-wide. The BenQ definitely still performs better though.

threefootwang1347d ago

I've always rocked it with LG monitors TBH. Not sure about their TVs but for Monitors they're absolutely excellent. I had a 23 inch LG LCD 1080P monitor for the last 4 years and just now upgraded to a 27 inch LG LED IPS one (gave the LCD to my sister, wanted to upgrade). Colors, quality, sharpness practically everything all top notch, never had an issue with their screens. Gaming whether it's an FPS, RTS, or RPG is awesome!

mediate-this1346d ago

True but, most 4k tvs mine especially has game mode, to alleviate that refresh rate

Consoldtobots1346d ago

will people PLEASE stop parroting this stupid nonsense about resolutions only mattering at certain sizes. ITS NOT TRUE. Go load a 4k wallpaper if you have a 1080 monitor and see how sharper it is even after it is scaled down to 1920x1080. Now Imagine at full 4k resolution.

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Ps4Console1347d ago

Well watching CES with the new 5K tv's too coming soon plus showing 8K in the not so distant future I say wait a bit for the 8K because even tv will be obsolete in a few years time according to the BBC click team ,

Sarcasm1348d ago

Yeah right now it's best to wait for the 60hz displays anyway.

kingduqc1346d ago

the asus one is 60hz for 800$...

worldwidegaming1347d ago

Buyer beware!
I remember when they said the 360/PS3 were HD!
I remember when 720P was called HD and then 1080P was TRUE HD!
Funny how they keep tricking us!

Parapraxis1347d ago

360/PS3 are HD.
720p IS by definition HD.
TrueHD can be lossless audio or it can mean 1080p.

Any modestly educated consumer knows these things and aren't being "tricked".

worldwidegaming1347d ago (Edited 1347d ago )

Guess you did not get the memo.

1) They up-scaled games last gen.
(check halo series and COD)
2) when 1080p TVs first sold they sold them stating they were "TRUE HD" or "FULL HD"

nothing on the box or in the instructions stated lossless audio just resolution.
(by god, some TVs were not even Native 720p)

These statements were rendered false by being brought out into the light or just phased out.

Now that the consumer is made aware these "Tricks" are brought out before the first person even buys it by various reviewers...

The article reinforces my statement. It really should be "Informed consumer" many educated people lack the common knowledge of what HD really means.

"Not grasping straws but stating history."

DarkHeroZX1347d ago

@worldwide

Not every single game was upscaled there where plenty of native HD games.

KwietStorm1347d ago

Some games being upscaled doesn't mean PS3 and 360 aren't HD.

worldwidegaming1347d ago

You can argue its HD or its not HD but the games even stated on the box it was 720p when it was not. "how do you spin that?"

dsswoosh1347d ago

There are a few 360 and PS3 games that are native 1080p.

Just want to point that out to everybody here.

dantesparda1347d ago

true, but cod ghost for x1 is definitely a rock solid constant 60fps, NOT!!! LOL!!!

dantesparda1347d ago

I only said that, cuz this guys is always spewing this crap/lie.

Lior1347d ago

I wouldn't worry because consoles are limited to 1080p and a lot of games still can't run at that even

MasterCornholio1347d ago

Your talking about the Xbox One. As far as I know Battlefield 4 is the only sub 1080P game on the PS4.

KwietStorm1347d ago

Like I said, only some games were not native. There's nothing to spin.

MasterCornholio1347d ago

Well I'm just happy that Sony isn't trying to fool us by claiming 1080P 60FPS as a standard for the PS4. Only one game runs at 900P while the rest are in 1080P which is a good thing in my opinion.

iistuii1347d ago

True, but it's strange how the 900p games are the one that looks the best at present. Out of all the release titles Battlefield 4 looks the best, but runs at 900p on PS4 & Ryse looks the best on xbox One again at 900p.

sAVAge_bEaST1347d ago

@iistuii "900p games are the one that looks the best at present" -huh?!?

KZ:SF, Assassins Creed, CoD, and Resogun, all look great at 1080p.

Oh_Yeah1347d ago

Being a pc gamer...I get to mess with frames and resolution. That said, to my eyes, 900p @ 60fps looks waaaaay better than 1080p @ 30fps. If they can't hit 60 fps in games I'd rather them lower the resolution to 720p/900p to achieve it. Frames make much more of a difference to image quality then resolution does.

sinspirit1347d ago

@Oh_Yeah

Yea but in PS4's case it isn't doing 1080p/30fps it is doing 1080p/60fps. Now lets stop talking about consoles in a non console topic.

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Blackdeath_6631347d ago

people are just unaware of the distinction between HD ready (720p tv's) and Full HD (native 1080p TV's) in the same way that some people will be unaware of UltraHD (3840×2160p) and Full native 4k tv (4096×2160).

JBSleek1347d ago

It's about the aspect ratio in this case. 3840 x 2160 will be the standard due to it being 16:9. As in 4096 x 2160 is what movies are shot and won't be a resolution you see in TVs.

Audiggity1347d ago

I remember when I thought the "next gen" consoles could handle 1080P...

Haha.

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ninjahunter1347d ago

Well, it would be a waste in most circumstances, 4k just takes too much power. On a side note, just use SSAA, that stuff will tank your frame rate, but i swear its some crazy black magic nonsense, can make a 720p screen look 1080p.

Bladesfist1347d ago

It is not really black magic. The game is being rendered at a higher resolution and then downscaled back to your resolution.

beerzombie1347d ago (Edited 1347d ago )

There is the consumer 4k 3840x2160 and the cinema 4k 4096x2160 they are two diferent resolutions.

Ju1347d ago

This whole 4K is quite a mess. Using it as a buzzword instead of a standard. Can't we just stick to 16:9 and done with it? Changing aspect ratios are a pain in the ass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Audiggity1347d ago

I don't know why you got 4 disagrees... apparently those people all have cinema displays or don't mind black bars!