Submitted by Abriael 572d ago | news

Respawn: “When People Start Playing Titanfall Like Titanfall, Player Count Becomes a Non-Issue”

The news about the 6 vs 6 player count of Respawn Entertainment's Titanfall have stirred quite a reaction in the fanbase, with players dividing in different camps criticizing the design decision or defending it.

Respawn has passionately defended the choice in a few occasions, and Lead Designer Justin Hendry implied that people still haven't understood what the game is all about. (PC, TitanFall, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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XiSasukeUchiha  +   572d ago
Álright then let's proof be shown !

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Hatsune-Miku  +   572d ago
From the graphics and player count of titanfall the game can easily be ported to the ps vita.
georgeenoob  +   572d ago | Well said
More Sony fans being first to comment, don't you guys have games to play?

OT: ANYBODY that played Titanfall will say it's an amazing game, which is why it's the most anticipated game of 2014. Meanwhile we have Sony fans who'll never play Titanfall let alone buy an Xbox nitpick the game to death. Maybe if people still thought this was a timed exclusive they wouldn't give two sh**s about player count.
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Necro_559  +   572d ago
God i hate people like you. This is total BS. Have you played it? Honestly? Have you? Exactly, shut your mouth. Your the reason i hate the gaming community.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   572d ago | Well said
@Miku Yep graphics matter. That's why KZ is the most traded in game for PlayStation.

Gameplay comes first. If I wanted to see realistic trees and water all day then I would just go outside and see it for real.

Yeah, aren't everything. Important, but not everything.
Septic  +   572d ago | Well said
The usual suspects quick to chime in praying that the game sucks because it's not on their platform of choice. So sad...

Titanfall has a very different pace to the majority of games you have played before. When I played it, it was absolutely manic...seriously...sh*t got real very quick and what followed was such a fun experience. It didnt feel like 6v6...not at all.

Titans dropping from the skies all around you...players whizzing by wall running and jet packing...rockets flying by. ..

This is a game that takes the pace of games like Quake and marries it with your more recent shooters. Its about quality not quantity.

So for all the arm chair experts mocking the game without playing it, speculating on so-called tech experts saying that the game is gimped whilst completely ignoring what Respawn have stated over and over and for those fanboys DESPERATE for things to go wrong with Titanfall....wait till March...then you'll see all your ill founded and baseless 'concerns' get crushed as Titanfall drops down.

Titanfall is going to be beastly. Watch this space.
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Concertoine  +   572d ago
they just said theres more than 50 combatants running around on titanfall, and the AI has a different role than just bots, and they've said before the AI itself is very complex.
the vita is a handheld, a powerful one at that, so naturally it couldn't handle a game like titanfall.
NewMonday  +   572d ago
"players whizzing by wall running and jet packing"

that's the problem, half of them are bots, this just kills the hype.

and if numbers don't matter why didn't Respawn reveal this months ago?

and this game is also on the PC, so XB1 fans should stop being all defensive, not everything is about them, it's about EA deceiving gamers again, are you guys seriously letting them hide behind you.
Septic  +   572d ago

They arent bots. The bots are completely different in the game. Completely separate from human players.

Im struggling to explain this whilst im playing gta 5 but trust me, they arr easily distinguishable from human players. They really change the pace of the game in a unique way.

Oh please dont turn this into an EA is evil agenda. Respawn made this game, THEY decided on the player cap, their pedigree says it all. This has nothing to do with EA.

Why am I being defensive here? Because its obvious people havent got a clue what Titanfall is about.
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NewMonday  +   572d ago
"They arent bots. The bots are completely different in the game. Completely separate from human players "

like I said the same Titans move and kill while controlled by a player or the AI so not a whole different class as you claim.

and cannon fodder is lame not "unique"

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Concertoine  +   572d ago
Lol i like how you're continuing to assume how the AI works in titanfall. YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME, DUDE! Why can't you comprehend the idea that you aren't anymore knowledgeable about a game that none of us have played? The fact that your mech can defend itself doesnt kill anything, like it has pinpoint lock on or something xD. It's probably more powerful being controlled by a pilot, otherwise you'd never want to use it in a competitive game. When there's AI in L4D it doesnt kill the competition. The auto turrets in COD games dont kill it competitively. AI is implemented in multiplayer FPS games all the time without ruining anything.
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Denethor_II  +   572d ago

"Meanwhile we have Sony fans who'll never play Titanfall let alone buy an Xbox"

You don't need an Xbox to play Titan fall!? You could play it on PC with superior graphics if you wanted.
NewMonday  +   572d ago

Respawn themselves say the Titans take part in the action as AI, your making all the damage control assumption here

the defensive comments are twisting my head, sometimes they say the AI is so smart it feels like playing vs a human, and other times they say the AI a lame duck that doesn't get in the way, the spin is officially out of control, make up your minds people.
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starchild  +   572d ago
Only on n4g would such a stupid comment get so many agrees. Well, actually, and sadly, there are fanboys like this all over the internet.
fr0sty  +   572d ago
6v6 because any more is too many... *crams game with up to 38 AI bots at any given time*

and all running at 720p!
mochachino  +   572d ago
Had to disagree Hatsune but that was funny.
SonofGod  +   572d ago

you're on N4G, which is 80% sony people, what did you expect?
Kidmyst  +   572d ago
@georgeenoob I'm getting it for PC and will comment on the game and just because others don't own an Xbox doesn't mean they too won't get it for PC. Who you criticize as Sony Fanboys, you in turn act even worse as a Xbox Fanboy!
DeadlyFire  +   572d ago
I believe its possible if not on Vita. Certainly possible on PSNow as there is no hardware limit there. Just bandwidth. EA will push for some sort of Titanfall sequel on PS platforms someday if it lives up to their expectations.

6v6 is the Call of Duty norm for the whole last gen cycle. A chunk of Respawn guys + Founders came from Infinity Ward. So really what were you guys expecting? I play CS:GO with 5v5 every day and its very enjoyable. So is 32v32 in Battlefield 4. Its up to the developer to make their game fun for their scale and player count. If they can't do it then they are not the best developer. Seeing this as Respawn's first game its hard to judge it before it launches.

I really don't see the need for so much AI. It could hinder gameplay or help it, but I have not seen any evidence positive or negative yet.

Titanfall is basically Call of Duty with no walls. You can scale anything and have nice killstreak tanks to shoot enemy players called Titans. Is this good or bad idk? When it comes to PC or PS4 I will think about playing it.
Prime157  +   571d ago
If the ai "not bots" don't impact our play, then what will we feel when we are shooting the ai that are taking a control point or shooting at us when an enemy PLAYER kills us?

Look, I agree that I want to try this game still, but past experiences lead me to be skeptical. The player count news really took me by surprise.
NewMonday  +   572d ago
my problem is with the bots, they kill the game as a competitive MP.
Necro_559  +   572d ago
No it doesnt, not at all.
LightofDarkness  +   572d ago
They're not bots. Bots are AI that emulate human players. These are grunt enemy AIs that behave like your average FPS campaign enemy.

And AI kills a competitive MP game? Tell that to LOL and DOTA 2 players.
NewMonday  +   572d ago
sorry but with bots bloating the score the game will not be taken seriously, it's just a kids game now.
Concertoine  +   572d ago
"Oh, and I keep seeing people thinking we’ve got “bots” when we talk about AI. Thats not how they are. The AI in Titanfall are not replacements for human players. Our playercount is not 6v6 because of AI - AI play their own role in the game and are a different class of character in the game."
Straight from the devs. Maybe people shouldn't be assuming things about a game we dont know enough about, that we havent heard concrete info on since e3, that you haven't even played. Seems like a good idea to me...
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LightofDarkness  +   572d ago
Well, I think we've just determined that you have no idea what you're talking about. I'd urge you to bow out of future conversations about this, but I can already tell the advice would fall on deaf ears. In fact, you should immediately rush to MLG and other pro gaming leagues and inform them that LOL and DOTA 2 are kids' games and are not competitive. Go now, stop wasting your talents for deduction here while people are making money from playing "kids" games competitively! I've no doubt there's a medal in it for you.
NewMonday  +   572d ago

the same Titans you ride and shoot and kill with operate and kill without a pilot as bots.


DOTA 2 is a whole different genre and a lame repeated excuse.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   572d ago
"sorry but with bots bloating the score the game will not be taken seriously, it's just a kids game now."

Good you don't like now. That's good so we shouldn't expect you in Titanfall related articles right?
maniacmayhem  +   572d ago
"they kill the game as a competitive MP."

Oh, you played Titanfall? please explain how the bots kill the competitive nature of the multiplayer for Titanfall using your own experience with the game....
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mhunterjr  +   572d ago
The bots don't kill the game as competitive multiplayer.

They don't have the capabilities of a human player: they aren't wall running, or piloting mechs. They exist to facilitate the narrative, and at times are a part of the objective. Also, a good team could strategically use them as a weapon. They are more like an interactive part of the environment than they are combatants.

Also, they won't 'bloat the score'. Just bashing off the multiplayer footage, killing a bit first award anywhere near the amount of points awarded for killing a human player or destroying a Titan. If you think anyone going to run away with matches by taking out ai, you're sorely mistaken.
NewMonday  +   572d ago

the mechs kill as AI, and as for the score look at the above gif I posted.


actually you will see a lot more of me until Respawn fix this.

if the game is released as is I will not care about the franchise at all to comment.
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maniacmayhem  +   572d ago
"actually you will see a lot more of me until Respawn fix this."

So basically you'll be trolling every Titanfall article despite what almost everyone on here has told you and what every link that the actual developers have explained works best for their game they are making.
Concertoine  +   572d ago
Right, they'll erase all the progress they've made, designing this game around 12 players after testing more, developing this game around whatever it is the AI is doing in conjunction with the player, and they'll release another sci fi FPS with 32 or whatever player MP, respawning vehicles for 3 or 4 people to camp until they spawn, and with a 4 hour campaign, etc...
I find it funny when people complain that the FPS genre feels too samey, then a game like this comes along and tries something different only to get slammed by people like you that will judge it before they even have a decent understanding of the basic mechanics of the game. And not only that, but you're saying you'll KEEP slamming it until Respawn fundamentally changes everything they've spent years working on. That's weak.
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NewMonday  +   572d ago

told me what exactly? spin?

Respawn said their is an "on-going debate" and I'm stating my opinion in the gaming community, I don't want another Aliens:CM or BF4 mess and I'm taking the developers up to task.

if you are happy with the way things are then just stick to the "disagree" "agree" buttons.
Dlacy13g  +   572d ago
@NewMonday... have you played TitanFall? If yes then please continue to voice your "concerns" but if you haven't then you can't possibly have an opinion about how the AI in this game functions and its impact on a competitive match.
maniacmayhem  +   572d ago
Try reading what everyone is explaining to you about the game.

How about actually reading why the developer chose 6v6. Yes there was a debate...you know what here:


And I asked you, how do the bots kill the game as a competitive MP as you stated. But you successfully maneuvered away from that question.
BX81  +   572d ago
@new give it a break bro. Go post on a game for you homie!
UnHoly_One  +   571d ago
What exactly are we supposed to see in that gif you referenced up above?

I am missing the point you are trying to make with that.

Please explain what that gif is supposed to be telling me about how the game works.
Prime157  +   571d ago
Light of darkness, I reiterate, "If the ai "not bots" don't impact our play, then what will we feel when we are shooting the ai that are taking a control point or shooting at us when an enemy PLAYER kills us? "

Bots are designed as filler, not to emulate human players. Bots are just ai... THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME.

Edit: oh, and the stupid ai in lol and dota are cannon fodder, but this is an fps game. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I'm skeptical. Very skeptical.
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OverPaperSkies  +   572d ago
Sorry, it's not coming to PS4.

You can go away now :)
kenshiro100  +   572d ago
It's on PC too. -__-
Prime157  +   571d ago
Lol, I love when you people assume every skeptic is a Sony fanboy.

That only singles you out as a Microsoft fanboy.
truefan1  +   572d ago
I am convinced the main complainers are PS4 players that weren't going to be playing the game anyway. I don't have evidence but lets look at the facts, the 2 staple xbox shooters are GOW and Halo, so xbox players are used to small teams and know how effective they can be. The Ps4 fanboyism displayed on this sit is pathetic.
ShowGun901  +   571d ago
umm if you're talking about online player counts for EXCLUSIVE games, then yeah, but as for all games on 360/ps3, Cod would still be the staple shooter for 360... which would have the same size player counts as the ps3's most popular shooter... cod. also, im not sure most players on both ecosystems understand how ANY team works, just join a pick-up game, most people just run around like idiots, no teamwork whatsoever.

ill be getting titanfall for the pc, hope it does well, i'll still have PLENTY of stuff to play on my Ps4 : )
Kidmyst  +   572d ago
I have faith in Respawn, being made from original COD creators, which were fun games back then I'm hoping for some good fun play with old PC clan guys. I was first disappointed in 6 V 6 but will reserve final judgements after seeing more on this.
H0RSE  +   572d ago
It's a bit odd how you mention "PC clan guys" yet were disappointed of the announcement of 6v6. I assume this is because your clan is just a bunch of guys that like to play games together and not a clan as in a competitive gaming group, because if it was, you would know that competitive matches are typically low player counts, like around 5v5 - 8v8.
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Kidmyst  +   571d ago
@H0RSE yeah we don't compete anymore as a Clan, we get together and play COD and other games online for fun now.
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Volkama  +   572d ago
Proof has been shown. They have been demoing the game since E3, and it wasn't a 64player trick version that everyone has been raving about.

Oh Septic mentioned Quake :) That's what I want for this game, pace and skill like Quake. I wish the weapons were more like those games of old though, and less putput machine gun.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   572d ago
Its a new Ip to be fair. I guess we can't judge the player count based off what we're used to.

They say Titanfall is pushing the FPS forward.

We'll see.
mcstorm  +   572d ago
I just find it funny how people are quick to judge a game that is not even out yet. Yes its 6v6 but if the maps support this game mode then great. BF4 has 32vs32 but some of the maps feel empty and some feel too congested. Looking forward to playing this game and it should be interesting to see how well this game sells on the 360 and Xbox one.
BlackTar187  +   572d ago
isn't it equal as funny to see people defending a game they haven't played yet? Its both sides of the coin.
nukeitall  +   572d ago

because people that have played it never complained about the player count, but instead are gushing out how awesome the game is?

whereas all the complaints about player counts come from the same people in every article, that hasn't played the game!

maybe fangirls?
Jeedai Infidel  +   572d ago
Exactly! If gamers don't allow for change without freaking out, we end up with regurgitated crap that comes out on a yearly basis (I'm looking at you Call of Duty and Madden). We should hold off and get ALL of the details of this game before we scare them into giving us another by-the-numbers game that will essentially end up as stale as Call of Duty.
NatureOfLogic  +   572d ago
Enough with the damage control. Judging by the feedback, most gamers think more players in a fps game makes for a better multiplayer experience.
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   572d ago
And have gamers played a game like Titanfall before? How do they know what's best for it?
KonsoruMasuta  +   572d ago
No, but they know what they like and know what's best for themselves. If you're the type of person that enjoys large scales multiplayer matches with high player counts, you probably wouldn't enjoy a game that's limited to 6 vs 6.
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-Foxtrot  +   572d ago
"gamers played a game like Titanfall before? "

Oh come off it, it's still a FPS a heart

People have played Brink - Wall Running

People have played Halo Reach - Jetpacks

People have played every other FPS - FPS elements

Mechs have been in a lot of games

So yeah I think people kind of have played it before. Seriously people are making out like everything in this game has never been done before when it has.

Honestly, I think peoples expectations of this game before it was announced and after are mixing with reality.
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Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   572d ago

Have we had all of that in one game though? No. So, to keep it balanced with all that stuff going on, 6v6 is the sweet spot.
Irishguy95  +   572d ago
Konsoru. I thoroughly enjoy scale. I also thoroughly enjoy small scale. The best FPS's are the ones with the best gameplay. Not the ones with the higher player count. BF3 had 64 players. I still think Bad company 2 was a better game.

Halo series is one of the best multiplayers especially on console imo. Besides Halo 4 :P And that is pretty much based around 4 v 4 and 6 v 6 with only one gametype that is large scale.

I don't know what they're doing with the Ai in this game. But they clearly don't have 'bots'. Bots are Ai that simply take the place of a character that is equivalent to a person. The bots in this are not the same as the player characters. Only the Titans are when you want them to follow you or guard you. Bots try to replicate people playing. The Ai in this game does not

Edit - @Foxtrot

People have played FPS before. Yeah, now lets see you say revolutionary Naugthy Dogs games are. No one is calling this game revolutionary. Just seems to be taking the next step in the small arena genre. Halo's jetpacks are slow as ****. Titanfall has 'jump boosters' which play nothing like Jetpacks. You just said

"Brink has this"
"halo has this"

So it takes two games for you to say people have played Titanfall already. Just face it, look at ANY gameplay video at all and it plays like nothing else plays. Please, point out just 1 game that plays like Titanfall. Just 1. Your logic -> Halo has jetpacks - Killzone 3 has jetpacks -> They are the same . Insane logic.

Edit - Yeah 1insomniac...that's why all the large scaled games are in MLG

Edit - @Scott, I think Halo is a great game for its genre. I also think Uncharted and the last of us are great games for their genre. Think the 3 games mentioned are great games in general regardless of their genre. Please tell me what your point is? You seem to be seeing things i'm not saying, likely because you're getting defensive/
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-Foxtrot  +   572d ago

"People have played FPS before. Yeah, now lets see you say revolutionary Naugthy Dogs games are."

The fact they add onto each game and push story telling like no other game has done before while at the same time do the same to their characters which make them some of the most memorable characters of the current gen....yeah they haven't done anything revolutionary alright /s

"No one is calling this game revolutionary"

I've seen plenty of people saying it is on here and the internet in general, how it's going to "revolutionize" the FPS genre <sigh>

"Titanfall has 'jump boosters' which play nothing like Jetpacks. You just said"

Lol...it's roughly the same thing. Different name, same outcome.

Right stop twisting what I'm saying, i'm not saying theres another game which plays EXACTLY like it but the concepts have been done in other games when you get people saying "Theres nothing like this been done before" when there has in other games, just because you put these elements into one game dosen't mean it's all brand new, they are just combined elements from other games. If I put Bishock Infinites tear power and Max Paynes bullet time in a game like Uncharted would they then be things no body has ever seen before....no they wouldn't.

People really have got to stop thinking this game is the second coming, I mean it doesn't seem like something which is going to push the FPS genre forward, just make it a bit fresh that's all.
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WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   572d ago
KonsoruMasuta, what gamers- the ones who have played Titanfall or the ones that haven't? The irony is that irony comes full circle to common sense because the people who played it have praised it while the people who hate XB1 exclusives and have NEVER played it...hate it. Well, maybe I'm using the word common sense a little too loosely, lol.
Unreal01  +   572d ago
Haha, "6 vs 6 is the sweet spot."

I'm pretty sure if it was 12 vs 12, that would be the sweet spot for you too. If people have to stop being negative about this game, then surely other people have to stop blindly praising it. I think you'll find it works both ways.
BlackTar187  +   572d ago
Unreal Bravo.

People mad about people hating ont he game without playing it but do you not understand that praising and defending a game without playing it is silly too.
scott182  +   572d ago

You seem to think Halo is pretty great. I think Uncharted and TLoU are just as great for their genre's.

You think an evil alien story with a hero saving the day hasn't been done before?
maniacmayhem  +   572d ago

"The fact they add onto each game and push story telling like no other game has done before while at the same time do the same to their characters..."

Wow, you basically just proved Irishguy right. If you think those games were revolutionary then just stop with any criticism you have towards Titanfall.

Hilarious you personally think ND games are Christ on earth but want everyone else to stop their own excitement and anticipation/hype for a game that has been getting nothing but praises from everyone who has played it.
jimbobbeers  +   572d ago
Judging by the feedback? Um no. Judging by the feedback (ordinary people who played at Eurogamer etc where it was 6v6) the game was perfect.
Prime157  +   571d ago
Most games feel better in a controlled environment...

Look, I'm just saying, these people have a right to be skeptical, and just because they may be, doesn't mean they are a fanboy.
ThePope  +   572d ago | Well said
Who cares. The gamers who want a higher player count can shut up and go play something else. A game like MAG, oh wait. Not one gamer has money invested in this game. So it's not their decision. If guys who have made one of the most popular franchise ever say 6v6 is the number then it's the number.

It's not damage control it's the fact that no one has played the game to say one way or the other. So the people who think they have a say with anything but their wallets need to shut up. Period.
HacSawJimThugin  +   572d ago
Yep...I'm here to give bubbles to good points and you sir shall be rewarded.
lets_go_gunners  +   572d ago
Strange...I just watched totalbiscuit's new video and he said the opposite. Let titanfall be titanfall and battlefield be battlefield. Still baffles me when a game can't have it's own identity and has to have what other games have.
Jeedai Infidel  +   572d ago
And those same people that want them to be the same will complain that they are the same. Logic be damned.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   572d ago
@NoLogic You haven't played the game yet so you wouldn't know. And you not going to.

I bashed this as well and then I did some super hard thinking and realized, Wow, I haven't played it yet. Its a new IP that outlets are supposedly raving about and saying its a step forward in the FPS genre. Based off that I'm excited.

EDIT: You know its always the Same. The same Sony extremist and their band of ghost disagreers and bubble uppers come trolling through here like they know what they're talking about.

The thing is these guys don't know what your talking about. Handicapped of logic or reasoning like a T1000 bot trying to comment every time here is a huge, HUGE wast of time because they have no interest, no excitement at all towards the title.

In fact they troll so hard daily, hourly every second at every turn I don't think allot of PS fanboys even care about their exclusives and content. The same extremist are always here they have real interest in what going with PlayStation and what they're delivering.

But looove to come in MS related games and content and troll, troll at every turn.

Wow bubble them down and move on I guess.
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-Foxtrot  +   572d ago
"The same Sony extremist and their band of ghost disagreers and bubble uppers come trolling through here like they know what they're talking about."

Yes keep living in fantasy land mate

Just because someone doesn't like the game or a feature...or even has some criticism doesn't mean they are a Sony fanboy...that is soooooo 2013 ¬¬
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   572d ago
@Foxrot oh please your probably one of them.

"just because someone doesn't like the game or a feature...or even has some criticism doesn't mean they are a Sony fanboy...that is soooooo 2013 ¬¬"

First off its the same fanboys that make there way into these articles or MS articles.

It isn't "someone" Its the same faces that I've seen time and time again. Oh and btw it isn't some criticism when the same people come in here daily talking down about the game or any MS related stuff. They do it every freakin day bro.

But of course I don't expect you to see that. You wouldn't understand unless your one of them.
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Rainstorm81  +   572d ago
One question angelic

Was it Sony fanboys hating on uncharted all last gen?? What about Killzone? Infamous? Heavy Rain?

Blaming everything on one group of fanboys kinda groups you with another set of fanboys.

All fanboys are the same.....Whether its PC nintendo Xbox or PS they will hate on the competition.

With that being said every person that has a gripe with a game isn't a fanboy....a distinction Many many people on N4G need to learn to make
starchild  +   572d ago
@Foxtrot & Rainstorm81

Blah, blah, blah... this is the same crap you sony fanboys always say in an attempt to excuse your trolling ways.
"Just because somebody is saying something bad about this game doesn't mean they are a Sony fanboy"

GET REAL. Such a judgement comes from seeing long term patterns of behavior among specific users. When you see the same people hating on anything that isn't Sony over and over again, it becomes pretty damn apparent what those people are about.

Kleptic, BlackTar187, Foxtrot, scott182, frostyants, NatureOfLogic, NewMonday, eonjay, Fr0Sty, Hatsune-Miku and most of the other people trolling these articles with negative comments are all KNOWN, longtime Sony fanboys. Are we really supposed to believe that their negative comments about this game are sincere and don't have anything to do with their longstanding pro-Sony bias and the fact that this game isn't coming out on a Sony platform?

Again, get real. That strains the bounds of credulity well past their breaking point. We're not idiots, don't insult our intelligence.

You can try to act all innocent as if you were a real gamer, but you're not, you're fanboys of the worst kind.

And, no, not all fanboys are exactly the same. Some people can be fans of a platform and not feel the need to constantly bash other platforms.
The PC, Xbox and Nintendo fanboys don't do even one tenth the trolling you Sony fanboys do on this site.
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Rainstorm81  +   572d ago
Now im a Sony fanboy....LOL

While i do currently prefer Sony consoles primarily, i buy and play all consoles.

Ive had every Nintendo console other than the Wii(yes Wii-U included), every Sega console except Master System, Every Xbox except X1, and every PS console. Only thing i dont game on is PC but considering a steam machine

I will eventually have the X1 and titanfall as well

not sure about any of those other people but
might wanna check my comment history. Besides most of the users that whine and cry about fanboys are fanboys themselves. Comment history is damning for most people that play this unbiased role


Also what does that make you? A PC fanboy? Xbox apologist? Sony hater?.....thats what i get from your comment history my friend.....praise PC ,marginally accept Xbox, have everything negative to say about Sony and Sony related things.
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frostypants  +   571d ago
@starchild: "...frostyants...and most of the other people trolling these articles with negative comments are all KNOWN, longtime Sony fanboys."

Is that why I get yelled at for being critical of Deep Down hype too? Is that why I get down-voted for calling Killzone games kind of boring? Sorry, I am an equal opportunity hype-basher when I see it, and I'm usually ultimately right. I will also point out when easily manipulated dolts eat up whatever PR sh*t that a company throws out in the trough ("we designed it for 6v6 from the beginning, we swear!!!"). Also, and perhaps more importantly, I own and play the hell out of a 360.

"We're not idiots, don't insult our intelligence."

A person who dismisses another's opinion out of reflex despite them providing reasons for their opinion (which I almost always do) is an idiot. You are an idiot.
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malokevi  +   572d ago
Damage control? Lol. The game isn't even out yet. Give it a rest. we all know that a certain group of people are upset because the game that has been unanimously loved by all who have played it and has lit the gaming world on fire isn't coming to a particular console. I'll leave you to guess what console I'm referring to.

Hint: it's not the wiiU
BlackTar187  +   572d ago
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XabiDaChosenOne  +   572d ago
Totally agree bro! It's the illumasonyfanboys at it again. Step out of the shadows and show yourselves cowards!
SoapShoes  +   572d ago
I'm sure it'll be a great game but it is way over hyped just because it's an exclusive. You got people who haven't even played it, like you, saying it is lighting the gaming world on fire when it hasn't really done that yet.
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   572d ago
Let's just let the game designers do what they think is best for the game? I'm sure they know what's best for the game a lot more than we do.
Kleptic  +   572d ago
the designers can do whatever they want...I agree they 'know whats best'...

but its perfectly acceptable for anyone to think this player limit is laughable at best...

I have over 15 friends from BF4 excited Titanfall, myself included...All of us regularly play BF4 in the evenings, in the same server, on the same team...

Are the 16+ of us all wrong for being pretty annoyed by this compromise?...So now our group has to get sliced in more than half, and play in different servers with other randoms just so we can enjoy this 'super awesome and exciting AI' that they came up with?

whatever...I'm not saying i won't eventually get the game, or follow up on how it turns out...but my guess is most people that keep running damage control have yet to play a modern multiplayer game with a large group of friends...at the same time...
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   572d ago
I'm sure that's a problem for a minority of players, and that sucks for the people who play with more than 6 people on a regular basis. But, according to people at Respawn, when you get more than 6v6 the game gets to hectic and loses its appeal. That's just how the game works.
jetlian  +   572d ago
guess so not the first game to do it. couldnt do it in uncharted, gears, and other games. hell party chat is only 8 people!!!
mhunterjr  +   572d ago
But battlefield is designed to work with that many players. Why should titanfall have been designed in battlefield's image. They are two vastly different games.

Gotta lose this whole more is always better idea.
modesign  +   572d ago
lol designers know best. how was the ending to mass effect 3 again. lol
0pie  +   572d ago
do you smell what i smell? Yes, its p.r bullshit.
ambientFLIER  +   572d ago
I smell your trolling.
Angerfist  +   572d ago
Idk shy they not made it 9v9, it works in Halo 4. And it has vehicles too
TheFallenAngel  +   572d ago
Omg these articles!!! Stop over hyping it.
1nsomniac  +   572d ago
I don't care "if you play it like its meant to be played, player count wont matter". The fact is that if it's 6v6 the levels design will be small & in my mind the worst thing in a multiplayer game is small cramped fragfest level design.

The smaller the level design the less skill & intelligence is needed to play it as well as design it!
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ambientFLIER  +   572d ago
Um, it's 12 human players, 12 roaming titans on auto mode, and dozens of AI characters on one map. How small is it going to be? Not very...
1nsomniac  +   572d ago
Ahh ok fair enough, from what ive seen so far there is certainly not 12 titans. Footage ive seen shows a maximum of 2 each team.

Also I'm not sure what AI characters would need to be involved in a multiplayer game?

If the levels are large enough so that you don't get at least shot at within the first 30 seconds then my interest will peak again but at the moment everything I'm hearing/seeing is indicating otherwise.
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ambientFLIER  +   572d ago
Every player on a team will be able to call in a titan at the same time, and there will be a dozen AI characters per side helping with the objectives, so all together that's up to 48 different combatants per game.
mhunterjr  +   572d ago
If you follow the game, part of the reason they decided on 6v6 is so that you aren't getting shot in the back every 30 seconds... and it makes sense.

Compared to your average shooter, players are very mobile. They're flying through Windows, falling through ceilings, jet packing, wall running etc. So a typical location, might have 5 entry points for you to worry about instead of 1 or 2 in a standard FPS. Increasing the player count, would make it a lot more likely that you'll be shot and killed from one of these vantage points, through no fault of your own. I could see that being very off putting...
1nsomniac  +   572d ago
That's what I was hoping for, it's just the more info I hear about the game the more worried I become.
ELCUCO  +   572d ago
Can't wait to start complaining about how the AI is stealing my kills! :D
KingDadXVI  +   572d ago
Bubble up for hilarity.
Kevlar009  +   572d ago
A lot of people claiming 12 max isn't enough probably haven't even played the game. I played a match at PAX and I did not even notice the player limit, I could hardly tell the difference between player and NPC and I didn't care. Why? Because playing the game with headphones and in front of an HD TV was pure excitement. All the 12 player limit does is prevent you from getting more than 12 friends or professional competitors in a single match.

Saying you need tons of players is like saying you need the best graphics. Ryse:SoR had amazing visuals but couldn't cover up it was a mediocore game at best.
modesign  +   572d ago
omg you were at PAX i was at PAX,
Sketchy_Galore  +   572d ago
Obviously a lot of the controversy is being fueled by the fanboys attacking it because of the system it's on and by the fanboys defending it for the same reason. Still, I do think some of the concern stems from a legitimate place.

The trouble is, most multiplayer shooters designed to work with smaller teams are usually slower, more methodical affairs where each small squad plans their attack before any fighting starts. Usually if a game is non stop action with troops running every which way and explosions constantly tearing apart the environment the rule is the more players, the better. The gameplay we've seen so far certainly makes it look like Titanfall is one of those non-stop action 'more is more' kinda games, which makes it strange to hear the player count is more in line with a slower, more tactical, more low key game.

Of course it could work and we should give it a chance before we judge it but the skepticism is understandable.
jetlian  +   572d ago
sketchy your reaching galore, in fact your making a fool of yourself. cod is 6v6 up to 9v9 and it is nowhere near slow and methodical!!!

BF is 12v12 to 32v32 and it isnt fast paced!! so if TF is non stop action LIKE YOU SAID 6v6 is inline with cod
princejb134  +   572d ago
Problem is no online shooter is perfect. A developer may say play a game the way it was meant to be played. But when kids start jumping in and doing their own thing, everything falls apart
frostypants  +   572d ago
Yep. Ultimately, how a game is played is determined by a user base, not the developer. They can only encourage a particular play style via clever design decisions.
SLUG  +   572d ago
they made titanfall for kids too thats what the rep at respawn said its a fun game for all ages
Eonjay  +   572d ago
Does "like Titanfall" mean not like COD.
Well I for one think its good they are actively trying to be different.
Hopefully people can accept something different. I was dicouraged to see COD dominating the PS4 and Xbox One. Still, even a few years ago the current success of BF4 and even Killzone would have been impossible.
Necro_559  +   572d ago
Honestly, i have played games with smaller player counts, like 6v6 8v8 and with the right map design, i found it way more action paced then a game like BF4. Engagements happening way more often. The reason BF4 has such a high player count is because there maps are huge. And even then, i still find myself running around to find engagements. However in games like Halo, its always fast paced and tons of action the whole round. The reason people are hating is because they most likely wont be playing the game, so this helps them justify the narrative they have made up in their mind to help deal with jealousy. Enough already, until you play it shut your mouth. The devs tested many different PvP and this is what was best to them. I love how everyone on the internet are a bunch of know it alls. Are you devs? Have you played the game? No.
SLUG  +   572d ago
i talk to a rep in respawn and they tell me that its a fps moba game its not a fps game like battlefield 4 its a different game it as lots of ai every ware in the game more then 100 cant count all of them it will be a fun game
LiQuiZoN  +   571d ago
Respawn has completely flubbed the marketing of this game if its actually a MOBA with an FPS viewpoint. They should of explained that clearly and defined the mechanics of how it acts like a MOBA.

Best MOBA is Dota2. Also the best multiplayer game I've ever played and its free! Go figure.

Valve FTW!

I still won't buy multiplayer only games especially full price MP only games.
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thief  +   572d ago
the problem with this game is that it is trying to be the anti-COD / BF, team-based, 6 v 6, etc.

but those it would appeal to would be the PS4 MAG / Socom / killzone crowd.

it would be ideal for the XBOX crowd if it was a simple, twitch shooter like COD or Halo. It may be console exclusive for the wrong console the way it's being projected.
Veneno  +   572d ago
Good observation. playstation gamers I would also agree enjoy more strategic, tactical mulitiplayer while xbox gamers are all about the twitch. Titanfall may not sit well on the xbox platform for this reason.
Respawn should stick to their guns on this one. I understand feedback is good but its also two-edged and I hope some elements within the gaming community don't push Respawn into changing their vision. It could prove disastrous. If the game fails, then it fails but let's judge it when we finally have a copy in our consoles.
curtis92  +   572d ago
I think from what I've gathered people want to play the game they saw at E3 with a lot of other people online. Not a world of 40+ bots shooting at you and with you but with a handful of others playing too. A little deceiving...
Simco876  +   572d ago
I had fun in 2v2 Goldeneye....what now?
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SharnOfTheDEAD  +   572d ago
We all did but that was pretty much the only option back then
Debaitable  +   572d ago
I don't care about the player count really as I play CS:GO a lot. It's just the inclusion of A.I. controlled players. Why can't those just be human players?
KingDadXVI  +   572d ago
This is just a guess but I suspect that the AI also serves to provide a bit of campaign still direction to the game.

The AI in this game is not going to be the run of the mill AI that people have become accustomed to.
mhunterjr  +   572d ago
The ai is not meant to replace humans. They don't wall run, they don't pilot titans, they aren't as good in a fire fight.

They are there to push the narrative, and are an interactive part of the environment to be used as a means to achieve the objective.

Making them humans would remove the narrativedynamic they are trying to create with this game.
pandehz  +   572d ago

No one argues that Planetside 2 has too many players or Diablo 3 is only 4 players.

Its like one fine day a chef decides to change the amt of sugar and icing on the cake because of attempting adifferent taste and bam all the fat ppl die of confusion. *That was kinda funny in my head hahahaha*

Basically ALL ARTISTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE WHAT THE WANT. That is called poetic license. In return consumers can choose to participate or not. But trying to change that art is offensive and the artist changing the work to fit the complaints is pitiful.

Dont know which is worse.
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SixtyNine  +   572d ago
I agree. I might pick up an Xbox One on the the day of titanfall release.
Kingoftherodeo  +   572d ago
Once again sausake is here among with his fan boys pal. Go play knack man. I have both consoles and we'll I can't wait for Titanfall. I'm a gamer and honestly all I'm playing on my ps4 is bf4 and ac4 why because that's the best thing available for it at the moment. Least fucking ms got some decent games to play right now and honestly if Titanfall is as big as it's hyped I don't see anything sony is cooking that can counter it
mochachino  +   572d ago
They reduced player count for graphics, less players allow for smaller maps. MS is behind them.
DFogz  +   572d ago
I don't know about that. There's still going to be 50 bodies on a map. It's just that only 12 of them are going to be controlled by players.
Whatever reasoning they have behind 6v6, it certainly isn't because they're making "smaller maps"
Darkwizard904  +   572d ago
The whole AI in MultiPlayer makes it less competitive idea is flawed. Thats like saying League of Legends sucks because there are AI minions and not real players. AI is just ONE aspect of the game. A game most of us know nothing about because idk.....its not out yet!

You don't need 6 bazillion players on the map to make it "next gen standard" ( i believe thats what people are calling it now), or fun/competitive.

In chess you don't have a individual person controlling every piece on the board do you? And if you did would it make the game anymore fun or more engaging? Absolutely not. I am so sorry to say but most people on those site just do not get the concept of design. They didn't add 30+ players because the system wasn't capable, it just wasn't ideal for the vision of the game.

I am going to laugh when TitanFall comes out and puts a breath of fresh air into the stale, copy cat cod fest in the genre we cal FPS nowadays.
WhatchaTalkinBout  +   572d ago
i dunno, this game looked cool fun and exciting when it was showed last summer.. but as time goes on its looking less and less that... might be just a over hyped game turned into a dud.. i guess we will find out when its release...
JasonKCK  +   572d ago
Since MP gaming began there have been games with 1 vs 1 to 500 vs 500 and everything in between. That's not going to stop so why is it a problem now?
DFogz  +   572d ago
The only reason it's a problem for this game is because the trailers that have been shown so far. They made it seem like there were a lot of players on a map, when in reality it was only 12 players and 38 "AI"

Had the devs been a little more forthcoming with the fact the game would largely be populated with AI rather than players I don't think it would have been anywhere near as big a deal as people are making it out to be now.
jacksjus  +   572d ago
That was a very reasonable explanation. Regardless it's gonna fly off the shelves.
mmj  +   572d ago
6v6 - What happened to the power of the cloud??
TRD4L1fe  +   572d ago
Why don't people wait till it releases before judging. This article is full with Sony fanboys just looking for something to hate on.
Rooted_Dust  +   571d ago
Sounds like a lot of people are having their preconceived notions challenged.

I'd stop trying to compare this game to COD and start thinking of it more like Left 4 Dead. Was anyone mad that all the zombies were AI? Did it ruin the game?

Would you really want 50 titans running around on the server, or have to wait in line to pilot one?
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