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Submitted by fastrez 255d ago | opinion piece

PlayStation Now must fight hard to sway cloud naysayers – opinion

VG247: PlayStation Now, the new face of Gaikai, will provide PS3 cloud-streaming for PS4, PS Vita, Bravia TV and other devices. VG247′s Dave Cook explains why early naysayers need to look at the bigger picture. (Gaikai, PlayStation Now, PS4)

stuna1  +   255d ago
Sony doesn't need to sway naysayers, it not their fault that some choose to believe that somehow Microsoft were the only ones that possessed cloud technology! Google, Amazon, Apple have been using the cloud for a while now, Sony used cloud technology on the PS3.

Just because Sony didn't go around shouting it to the heavens about the cloud didn't mean that they weren't making their own plans to utilize it. Having Gaikia under their ownership basically ensures that Sony were at the forefront of the tech. What so many people have such a hard time comprehending is.... bigger or more doesn't necessarily equate to better! Example; 20 nickels equate to $1 dollar, just like 10 dimes equate to $1, but just because you have 20 nickels doesn't mean it's better than having 10 dimes! If anything the dimes are of greater value and require less.
JoGam  +   255d ago
In 2014, its my resolution to not comment on opinion articles anymore.
stuna1  +   255d ago
I actually agree with this opinion piece, and I also believe if anyone can get this endeavour to work it's Sony! But in all honesty there will always be naysayers, but looking at Sonys track record, I'm real optimistic for the future.
Hicken  +   255d ago
You already failed.
JoGam  +   255d ago
@ Hicken.....Actually I didn't. My comment was't in response to this Opinion Piece. It was a general statement.
guitarded77  +   255d ago
@ JoGam... your statement was "In 2014, its my resolution to not comment on opinion articles anymore.", which you just did. So yeah, you failed.

On topic: Who the hell are these "naysayers". Sony said they were working on a cloud service to bring PS1 - PS3 games to other devices, now they put a loose time frame together, and demoed the service. What is there to naysay? Sony are doing what they said they were going to do, and proving they can do it.
malokevi  +   255d ago
What ever happened to the cloud being all smoke an mirrors? An underhanded lie, a corporate buzzword to fool the gullible masses?

Anyone remember that? Anyone? Because you were all saying it.

Yes, all of you.
nategrigs  +   255d ago
You should be careful making blanket statements like that. I have never once said those things....But now that you mention it, I do believe that MS used "the cloud" as a buzzword to fool the ignorant, gullible masses
scott182  +   255d ago
It's how the cloud is used that makes it just a theoretical thing or a practical thing. Sony showed the cloud actually being used for something practical, that gamers will be able to use and enjoy. I'm sure other things can be done with the cloud, but it is good to actually show it and prove it.
Majin-vegeta  +   255d ago
M$=Cloud will make the xbone 3x more powerful

Sony=Cloud for streaming etc...

See the difference??The only gullible person here is you.
pedrof93  +   255d ago
You are completely out of context, MS said that cloud would give 10x more power to the X1, people refered to that.

What Sony proposes is more acceptable and realistic.
Ilovetheps4  +   255d ago
There's a difference between cloud computing and cloud streaming. I'm still not completely sold on Playstation Now, but we'll see how it works out. Microsoft is planning to use the cloud for computing purposes to make an X1 more powerful. While cloud computing is possible and is used (Folding@Home), it's not feasible for most stuff. I'll be interested to see how they get it to work though.

If you would like to learn a little bit about the restrictions about cloud computing, read this article: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... It provides great insight into everything.
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malokevi  +   255d ago
@ Vegeta

M$ = 10x more powerful + cloud. Obvious spin is obvious.

"Depends on exactly what you are doing with the system. For purely local compute functions closer to 10x + Cloud"

http://www.geimin.co.uk/xbo...

$ony = "Sony=Cloud for streaming etc... "

Splitting hairs are we? One cludz better than another cludz? I thought Gaika was perfectly capable of cloud compute, because, as I recall, "remote servers are remote servers"....?!?! Oh how things can change overnight! I guess MS cludz aren't capable of streaming, either? :)

@scott

I recall MS doing a demonstration with NASA, and N4G screaming that the servers were down the hall and an unrealistic demo. Does that sound familiar?

The hypocrisy is plain to see.
raWfodog  +   255d ago
The 'cloud' is real tech, as anyone with an IT background can tell you. It's how it can be used effectively that is always up for debate.

Edit: To clarify, MS needs to show that the cloud can improve the processing power of the XB1 in order to convince the non-believers. Sony never claimed that Gaikai would be used for improved processing and they have proved that it could effectively stream older titles.
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vikingland1  +   255d ago
I remember da cloudz smh
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   255d ago
@ malokevi
I didn't.
HighResHero  +   255d ago
It isn't all smoke and mirrors but it is very much a buzzword once again.
It is an ideal marketing term, created to encompass a number of remote services, many of which were already available in some form.
I am not one of the "naysayers" but I also have at least one foot on the ground and don't understand why some people think these services will inevitably replace all hardware or something rather than coexist with current technology.
It's like the people(blockheads) that proclaimed tablets would "replace" laptops or PCs, not taking into considering the many physical limitations of mobile devices like battery, thermal, and so on.
So I'm probably more bothered when people that think new technology has to "replace" existing and even advancing technology, the kind of people that thought the microwave had to "replace the stove" when it was released and so on.
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scott182  +   255d ago
@malokevi

"I recall MS doing a demonstration with NASA"
How was anything MS did practical for gaming or gamers?

"and N4G screaming that the servers were down the hall and an unrealistic demo. Does that sound familiar?"
People will use anything to belittle what the other "side" is doing, it works both ways.

I still don't see what they are doing "compute" or otherwise that makes any difference in games whatsoever. Nothing they have done has changed anything... Am I wrong?
thekhurg  +   255d ago
Pretty sure it was because MS said the cloud would make their games look/perform better because it gave the console 10x better performance.

That was the smoke and mirrors bullshit.

What Sony is doing with their cloud service and game streaming is entirely different.
pyramidshead  +   255d ago
Well if you're remembering everyone saying such things you'll remember Sony and MS are using and have marketed the cloud in very very different ways.

Sony=Streaming service for its vast games library.
Microsoft=Increased power x 100Xb1s, improved graphics, better gaming experiences, 'Cloud powered'.

In the rage in which people are suddenly calling out everyone who naysayed MS's cloud vision are completely missing the point entirely and spitting their dummies out of the pram for the sake of console wars, it's hilarious.
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schubacca  +   255d ago
It is funny how now that Sony's cloud is somehow more tangible than MS's...... Let us shelf all the MS BS for one moment. Sony will have the same issues of latency, bandwidth, and consistency that people were so right in pointing out.

So what happened? Also, Sony is not at the forefront of any cloud tech. MS and Amazon are....
kayoss  +   255d ago
Did you even try reading the comments above you before you post this comment?
They clearly explain the difference between Microsoft's vision of the cloud and Sony's vision of the cloud.
They also explain why Sony vision is more believable and why Microsoft have not proven anything.
Read the Comments that you're going to comment about before posting your comments.
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XiSasukeUchiha  +   255d ago
At least PS cloud is real not like MS cloud were proposed to be 4x more powerful than ONE with compute XD

@Ubiquitous
Do i honestly give any decency on your opinions Susanno
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UbiquitousClam  +   255d ago
I'm not sure you actually understand anything you type.
MasterCornholio  +   255d ago
Don Mattrick basically said this,

Xbox One without cloud= 4 times as powerful as the 360

Xbox One with cloud= 10 times as powerful as the 360

See why some people doubt Microsoft's cloud?
Phoenix76  +   255d ago
Sony have the advantage here because they have actually shown us the CLOUD in action.
MS just talked a lot of smoke and mirrors about their CLOUD, in a way that made it unworkable.
from the beach  +   255d ago
They would need to convince me not to just keep my old consoles, which I honestly doubt they can.
nategrigs  +   255d ago
I don't think this service is for you. The only benefit you would see is being able to play games on the go (vita). There will be some lag and graphical downgrade, so you might as well play a game on its native system if possible.

This seems to be geared more for people that missed out on previous generations/don't have old consoles.
WeAreLegion  +   255d ago
Can we STOP comparing Microsoft's cloud computing and Sony's cloud streaming?

They are completely different things.
beatled  +   255d ago
lag, crappier graphics, more jaggies....what's not to love?? /s

cloud is just a cheaper way to sell you the crap you already own back to you

remake the games with 1080p native resolution, proper textures and proper anti aliasing and I I will rebuy games like last of us and uncharted 2 to see them with 5 year old pc level graphics

but everyone is saying the ps cloud is crap right now, that it actually looks WORSE than the already crappy, 8 year old ps3 graphics available

what the hell would I want that for?
B1663r  +   255d ago
Im sure with all the compression artifacts and lag that are sure to be present in Sony Now technology you will not notice the jaggies one bit.
Jdoki  +   255d ago
A simple free trial would do that... Although you'll never sway the naysayers on 1Mbit lines claiming the service is rubbish!

The Hands On info I've read suggests that it has little lag and few artefacts - which is pretty good. However, they also said the Gakai server powering the demos was a few metres away down the hall...

I tried OnLive a long time ago and was impressed by it back then, so I imagine the tech has moved on (such as the compression and algorithms for accounting for lag) quite a bit.
zerog  +   255d ago
Naysayers? What happened to all the people shouting the cloud will make X1 4x more powerful? That's the real joke. There's a big difference in running a game at home while trying to have a remote server do part of the work because you'll never get them to sync in real time consistently. This service however doesn't do that it streams the whole game so all your device does is display and take controls. This kind of tech of receiving an image and controlling something remotely has been around for a while and is used in all kinds of applications from media to nasa and even the military. Sony bought an entire company, a world leader in the tech just to be able to do it. It can work and will by the time its said and done. I did notice one mistake the author made though, he kept saying the beta starts this summer but it doesn't, the launch is this summer the beta starts at the end of this month.

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