Dylan Z of iGR writes: "Sony and Gaikai may be a step closer to unveiling their PS4 streaming technology."
Awesome.It's over 9000!!!!
Yep, I am looking forward to the details.
PS4 Cloud Power!
@ himdeel Me too I want to know the prices (hopefully $5/each and some free for PS+ subscribers) and file size average. I want to play some of my PS3 titles on the PS4. Too bad those titles probably won't get a graphics boost, but still can't wait. LOL @ it's over 9000. I need to dust of my DBZ dvd collection.
Sound to me like it's probably for upscaling games up to 1080p, and adding PS4 features like screenshots, and recording. "Adding mini-games" I have no idea what this is for? Maybe to ease loading...?
Last year they also had that patent which allowed trophies to be added to older games without having to change any existing code. Would be cool to go back and play all those old games again for the trophies, since I do so anyways.:)
Uncharted 2 has been using cloud technology since 2009 and look at that great game's graphics. Fast forward to 2014 you would wonder how much Sony has mastered using the cloud for Gaikai and PS4 games!!!!!
^ Mastered?! ....LOL! Yeah sure. Until you you can claim on developing new gen triple A games and can add live content to it. Then we can talk about mastering cloud. Other than that, Sony with cloud computing features is on the back-end here compared to Microsoft. Future proof!
@P0werVR: I heard that X1 becomes 10times more powerful when using cloud? Do you have any proof of that now that it's out? how about Forza 5 1080p impossible without the cloud? please keep quiet don't ingest any BS you hear.
Hopefully there's a subscription base with a PS plus discount. Looking forward to playing all those platforming games and RPGs.
over 9000? sorry newb question.. what do you mean?
Over 9000 RedBalls
So you're a DBZ newb? Wow.
Over 9000 was a large wooden ship primarily used in the civil war
Over 9000 ms of input lag?
http://www.youtube.com/watc... I want to watch dragon ball again for the 9000 times.
you must not watch a lot of tv, specifically anime. Thats a reference to the popular show Dragon Ball where power levels were measured and 9000 was the max, so anything above 9000 was insanely powerful
@cell989 And it turns out that 9000 is pathetically weak when you find out Frieza's second form is over 1 million (and final form much stronger than that). Then 1 million becomes pathetically weak as the saiyans go through their different saiyan forms, which I believe hit 2.5 billion.
9000 red balls? what..?
Lmao in dragon ball z vageta aka goku's rival used his scouter on goku and then nappa said what is his power level vageta? He then says ITS OVER 9000!!!!! and breaks the scouter.
Wasn't freeza like 1000000 or something. I haven't watched dragon ball z or dragon ball since the 90s.
Some kids show.
Enjoy it while it lasts. The excitement will end as you play your first game with the neverending INPUT LAG. It doesn't matter which connection you have. You'll always be playing the game somewhere else. You'll send you command, the server will wait until it gets there and send you the graphics back. You'll only see the result of your action when you receive the graphics. This service doesn't have ANY chance of being barely decent. Enough said.
And you know this. Gaikai is promising the fastest network to date so well see won't we.
Apparently you never used Gaikai. I was using a Dell Inspiron 6000 stock and playing Crysis 2.It looked incredible with no lag. At the time I had 25mbps which is not insane fast or anything.
Pretty low standards, I see.
Thanks. What part of the engineering process did you work on?
@MestreRothN4G have you tried Remote Play? if you have, you wouldn't be talking about input lag.
Ehm HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT ? Stop trolling.
"Have you tried remote play.." You mean the one over wifi in your house? Yeah that works fine, because everyone has gigabit routers, for the most part. Have you tried remote play from a remote location? There is an input delay. There will always be input delay, roughly 2/3 the speed of light with IDEAL conditions. "But that is so fast", the matter of milliseconds when playing a shooter is in game life or death. People will just buy on to any little piece of information they here. It's really pathetic.
Awesomeness over 9000!
Dragonball Z: Battle Of Gods Full Movie (English Subtitles) http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Sony talks about the cloud? ... omgwtfbbq over 9000! MS talks about the cloud? ... boo hiss down with MS liars Honestly guys?
Hmmm not sure if serious or not?? M$=Cloud can make xbone 3x more powerful Sony=Cloud is used for streaming etc... Do you see the difference or does someone else have to draw you a clear pix??
Care to tell me how Sony's and MS's cloud are EXACTLY the same when they clearly aren't?
Thanks for your offering to help, but I am already totally familiar with what Sony is doing with Gakai. It appears, though, that you guys haven't thought it through. When you consider the actual premise of what Sony is doing with Gakai and the streaming of actual realtime games through their cloud the promises of MS and Sony stumble on the exact same pitfalls. Think about it. Sony's cloud will be streaming game data, game graphics and textures, game AI (all in realtime) and then will be receiving gamer input from your gamepad to your PS4, then to your internet modem, then over the internet onto their servers, then processing the input on their servers, then mixing your received input with the game's response, then returning the signal to the internet, then your modem, then your ps4 which will then need to process the data again and display the signal on your TV. This will need to happen near instantaneously every few miliseconds, otherwise the whole thing will become an unplayable lagfest. That's the truth of it, chaps. Sony's cloud is a massive undertaking fraught with problems, in much the same way that MS cloud offering is. This is why celebrating Sony's cloud and poo-pooing MS's offering is such a sad double standard. Hope that helped you work it out.
@fanboybeatdown You act as if Gaikai never existed well it did and worked perfectly fine won awards and everything so I have no reason to expect anything less this time around :/ that's all I'm saying.
Cloud is only real when sony does it ...
@raccoon titties!? :-D
I'm saving this conversation for the day when Microsoft finally comes out and admits that 3x more power through the cloud was just a bunch of bullshit. I'll message you with a picture of me streaming a PS3 game to my PS4. Honestly Guy.
Ah you guys still don't believe me. I'll just leave this here http://www.techradar.com/au... I would say it works far from perfectly. It may work if you live in Japan, Hong Kong or South Korea and have a 100Mbps connection..good luck with that in TROTWorld Just to throw some more cold hard facts into the mix, here’s some real life word internet speeds that fall short of what’s required for gakai streaming: http://www.netindex.com/dow... Also note I live in Australia and Australia’s average internet speed is 4.7Mbps. Suffice to say Gakai in Australia will be a big fail with that amount of bandwidth. That's a no-brainer. http://www.cnet.com.au/aust... also, @warczar Good on you for caring that much! I tip my hat to you for saving an internet conversation for 6-12 months just to prove you can take a gakai screenshot lol. One thing tho. When you send me a screenshot of the gakai streaming, be sure to include statistics for game lockups, input lag, intermittent buffering and a sample of reviews from credible mainstream websites from around the world. A screenshot by itself ain't worth a hoot... but you knew that right? Honestly! :)
Great but let's not get that hyped. Sony also patended blocking used games and I didn't see any articles in here about it. http://www.forbes.com/sites... http://www.freepatentsonlin... Proabably got scared after they seen how people reacted to MS and backed out.
Have you not seen the articles from the february reveal of the PS4 confirming no DRM?
@EXVirtual Can you read what I wrote, with understanding? Cheers.
Will it ever reach it's ceiling? Its like a empty well, with no end to it.
Really excited about this!
sounds interesting. later they could emulate PC games on max settings if the technology proves itself, i bet there are no licensing restrictions
If you're talking PC games playing on a console, there likely will be licensing issues. That's just how things seem to go.
well, ok with me. i´m already busy finishing exclusives let alone multiplats or PC games. so many games these days it´s not even healthy
How do you emulate a PC game if it's running on a PC? I think you mean stream PC games, though that's much more expensive. Putting a bunch of cheap Ps2s and Ps3s in the servers is cheaper than high-end GPUs. If you want PC streaming, look to Nvidia's GRID, which just entered beta.
Bring on Gaikai :D
Unleash the cloud: http://cdn2-www.playstation...
I'm still trying to figure out how this will work. Will it be similar to Netflix or d we have to buy all the games all over again.
No one knows at this point but Hopefully.
You can bet that if Sony tries for a setup similar to Netflix, pay a subscription fee for access to full library, people are going to lose it if its separate and in addition to PS+.
PS+ isn't exactly a burden on people (like 45 pounds for the year). I can see it being a subscription based service similar to Netflix because individual pricing would be an issue getting it right and they are not going to do it for free
This "wrapper" that's being made to work with existing games sounds fantastic. Sounds like adding psn functionality to the legacy games we may have bought, I love this idea. I would pay for this easily.
I actually hope it will be more like Steam. You buy the game you want digitally through Gaikai.
No, you don't have to buy your games all over again. You already own them and you can play them on your PS1/PS2/PS3 whenever you want. As for those who don't own these systems or games for them, they can play these games through the PS4 cloud at an as-of-yet undisclosed subscription fee or on a pay-per-title basis. We just don't know yet.
I'm hoping it works like the Sega channel did back in the day.
I loved me that Sega channel. Short lived and I was the only one of my friends that had it.
The Netflix model would be smarter PR wise. Paying to access games you already own is a much harder sell than paying to access a library of games, some of which you may already own.
If it was like netflix for all the classics in HD i'd pay for the subscription in a heartbeat.
i'm so ready
GameChanger lol http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X...
I imagine that name has something to do with PS1/PS2/PS3 games? Honestly, if they released a massive amount of PS1/PS2/PS3 games at the same time via streaming...it would be a great marketing tool for them.
I hope they have been working on this since they bought Gaikia so when it release it will have a good number of games.
I just hope that by using Gaikai you can play your disc based PS1, PS2 and PS3 games. other than that, I don't care