Gamersyde have uploaded part 2 of their Killzone 2 gameplay footage from Sony's Gamers Day 2008 event.
IGN really got me down with their negative preview.
But according to them it sucks because you have a rechargable life bar, like every other shooter. And one of the guys said a cheesy line.
I don't trust previews,unfinished game+limited play time=Skewed impression
Its not up to the PS3 to entirely reinvent the wheel every time it releases a title. So many other titles get passes for doing the same. Its shocking that people are willing to ignore technological advances is both gameplay and graphics, because it uses a feature that has already been used.
Alright game looks fantastic that has been established. AI needs some SERIOUS work. I mean they have to learn to flank and take cover they are simply too easy to take down as it is now The gun sound. I don't know what it is but i don't think that is how a gun should sound. Would hate to think they spent 60 mill on this game and didn't bother to record actual gun sounds I have never seen a video taken off screen look so good.
@1.2=bubbles well put
i agree with sonarus the AI seemed slow, but so did the player
This is just jaw dropping....the lighting, the animation, the frame rate , the particles!!!! This is a VFX artists dream game. What an atmosphere! I like this vid even more. http://www.gamersyde.com/le... EDIT: Oh and don't worry about the AI. It's in good hands my friends cause of this man http://aigamedev.com/site/2... Thx GAF!
Maybe it's on god mode he seems to not get hurt at all.
yet a again the game looks awesome and i agree that the guy sliding around and things of that nature is probably why they are still working on it right now
A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) in Halo 3 isn't up to snuff and remember this is a pre-alpha build / code. For a pre-alpha code to look this good things are look very promising.
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Not only that, but one of their complaints was that there wasn't much new as far as gameplay that wasn't any in any of the other good shooters we've played... but as long as the game is as good as those other good shooters, I don't care. All of the other detail they've included would make it good enough to purchase for me.
Well they really need to ramp the AI up. They have to make seeking cover a necessity and not an option. They need to be more aware of grenades, take cover, they should be aware when you aim at them to shoot at you back. The game is still far away so A.I. will definitely get ramped up but i also hope they put some work in the gun sounds. Its not impressive at all. Comparing halo 3 AI to KZ2 AI at this stage is silly really
Wow the AI remind's of let's see "Doh which way did he go george".
@ Some one plays I disagreed with you because I think it is past the "PreAlpha" Stage... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... To my knowledge Pre Alpha is basically an engine that works. Alpha is a playable albeit very glitchy version. I would say this game is past that or at least the demo is. The demo they showed is pretty darn close to Beta. It will be changed and tweaked I am sure but from what I can tell... The footage we have is not Pre Alpha by any means... Edit: Some of the coding I am sure is Pre Alpha maybe the AI and other stuff but for the most part this is what we will be seeing with better AI and maybe a few other tweaks... Edit 2: Also I have seen a lot of "The making of" Videos on gaming. Alpha means you can go through the levels. It may not be fun and may not be perfect but its "Playable" and thats it. Pre Alpha is not "Playable" its the point of Dev's sitting down and writing the first lines of script to the time someone can play through the first level, May not be fun or pretty but its playable. Then that level is considered Alpha. So what we saw is not Pre Alpha however like I said the coding for AI and such might be...
bubble up, well said @Jinxstar, agreed
Fantastic looking stuff. Great video. It looks like a sci-fi Call Of Duty... and that's not a bad thing. @1.5 You nailed it - the textures and lighting effects look staggering. It's tough to make a call on level design or gameplay without actually, well - playing it... but the visuals shown here are simply stunning, and that's a low rez cam.
Pre-alpha is playable the E3 2007 was a pre-alpha build and was playable. With this new demonstration they're using pre-alpha coding just look at the tops of the images I posted.
So more things are going to be implemented but they still have quite a few things to add. Like A.I. (Artificial Intelligence), better textures, frame rate issues, whatever satisfies the developer's version.
So yes the game looks amazing but it is still considered a work in progress. That's what makes this game so amazing at such an early stage looking so amazing. This looks better than Halo 3's final version of the game.
This is a work in progress; a beta stage is when everything is implemented. They are only looking for bugs and will be pretty much a final version. They can test the networks at this point to make them stable for the final release.
I also want to note pre-alpha is made in a short amount of time like the Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer demonstration running on real-time hardware. This is using pre-alpha coding so it isn't made in a short amount of time but still at an early stage.
AI needs improvement but the graphics is so nice and the gameplay looks fun, i dont kno wat ign is complaining about. man this game looks better then any 360/ps3 game, the gun looks better then any 360/ps3 game.
this whole game looks like a cgi and the smokes and explosion is the best ive seen in any video game
dont you understand, the media wants to destroy this game, just cause its called "killzone"
the guy just slides away wen he died at 3:10
Havent seen it yet but i think i know what your talking about it happened in a e3 gameplay footage. hopefully that only stays in alpha/beta stages.
Yeah that was weird. Well, they still have nine months to iron that out. In my experience with beta versions of games, sometimes the biggest and most obvious bugs aren't fixed (though they are aware of them) until weeks or days before shipping the game. Not being a developer, I have no idea why that is - but I've seen it enough to speculate there must be a reason.
Damn, now there's gunk all over my monitor.
damn it made you explode lol
and i quote, "work in progess - prealpha CODE"
lol if they released a killzone trailer and the AI was amazing and the graphics sucked then everyone would be complaining about the graphics. The game doesn't come for sometime now... Theres a lot of time to tune AI. KZ2 looks unbelievable. I'm glad developers are taking the "true" risk of next gen games.
they suck balls at shooting.
Looks good, but then again, its "only" 30fps so of course its looks better than average...Too bad they couldn´t do 60fps..=/
Soooooo...it only looks good because it run @ 30fps? Are you going to stick with the statement or would you like to take it back now?
Honestly, their biggest mistake would be to name this Killzone 2.
They need to just name it Killzone and pretend the first one never existed.
need to make a new account and pretend the other one never existed to get your bubbles back lol i'm joking i understand your reasoning its just that it would be pointless and actually would make the original killzone to be brought up more because searching for the game would be a pain
LMAO...very nice man...had me laughing for a while
The KZ story is actually good.
What did I do this time?
lol that was funny let me help you out with the bubbles there.
The first one was okay, I've played worse games the only problem was the single player got too repetitive. It just felt like you were slogging through level after level. This game should add some variety, that only leaves me with concerns for the AI which hopefull gets worked out by release. they have plenty of time so I'm not worried.
I'll help you out Dude. Take.........THAT !
The game looks stunning. A bit too gray, but it looks awesome:| Just look at those character models and there animations. I am fairly impressed.
I think that colour wise we shouldn't quite take that as the actual colour. we must remember those are off screen so the colours are slightly off.. also each video camera will have a different colour to them, therefore effecting the colour also.
I'm not saying it will be hugely colourful. just it'll be a bit more than what we are seeing there. only a little mind you.
It certianly is shaping up lovely. can't wait for them to show off their AI properly. It'll be nice to see if we can shut people up on every aspect of the game.
AI needs serious work. its pathetic. they have 9 months to refine the code, get it done.
They put these games on GOD mode so that wimpy journalists can play them. Just lettin' you know. But what was so bad about the AI? The helghast and teammates acted in a fairly believable manner.
Is it just me or is every person Italian that's playing this game? Every video I've seen now the dudes are speaking italian "bah fangu, stunad acino!"
But yeah, I think part of the reason the AI is so weak is because this is a demo, they are trying to showcase the technical side of the game(i.e. the environemts). You don't have to be a skilled player to grasp the concept the devs are trying to get across.
From what I hear though the Cover system factors importantly into the game. That makes me happy.
Developers, make the game easier and the AI easier for the short-term players at those events. So, previewers an focus on all aspects of the game without dying every 2-3 minutes.
I don't know about some of you guys, but even through the sh1tty quality video, this looks amazing. Great graphics, particularly the explosions and lighting effects. Also sweet animation. Looking good IMO
Talk about some stupid Ai! This game already reminds me of part one and all though there are good looking parts there are other that don't impress! GEOW 2 should trump this game but I guess for now time will tell lol!
Gears doesn't really compare to this game - ones 3rd person the others 1st person.
And if you think Gears is the only 3rd person shooter out there geuss again, its going to have plenty of competition from Red Faction: Guerilla, Damnation, Socom, and Fallout.
But really, the graphics in Killzone and the sheer size of the environments put Gears to shame.
...looking console shooters however, they need to ensure that the gamplay matches the visuals cuase at the moment...it doesn't by a long shot.
hahahaha the ps3 is reallly next gen sony uses nextgen marketing ploy called killzone 2 to make the sony fatefulll keep dreaming beyond haha its dso funny a game that was mention in 2006 is now getting released in 2009 .
how do you even have a bubble? oh well...
us ps3 owners are all happy with the game and the delay..soo w.whats ur point?(i dont seem to understand). you see our games are made with care and are created by dedicated developers who want to realy show what the PS3 is capable of doing but back at the head-quaters of microsoft the developers are all in for money and their all running around like crazy because they know that their so called games console can't match the graphics of Killzone 2 so what they do is put together games like GREYS OF HAIR in flippin 2 days, quikly show it off to the public and then release the crap PS1 game !oops! did i say PS1 i ment Xbox 1 because all !!YOUR FREEKIN GAMEs LOOK LIKE FLIPPIN CRPPY OLD SNES GAMES!!!!...GO FREEKIN BUY A REAL CONSOLE U FLIPPIN TARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty much looks like COD4 to me. That's not a criticism btw, just an observation. I don't get the whole "Whoa, the most amazing graphics EVER!"
Its much better than COD4. The smoke effects, the explosions, the lighting, the character animations, the bullet fire(bullets actually glow red).
When something explodes in COD4 you just see a plume of smoke. In KZ2 you see the burst. Not to mention the flames look better in general. The destructable environments are also impressive in this game. In another video they have posted they show a tank blow up a building and you see hundreds of peices fall to the ground.
If this game doesn't take your breath away then tell, what game does?
@ Tony The reason the rounds glow red is because they are tracer not ball. COD could do it too and you see it when rounds are fired in the air at times but it just depends on all that. Tracer rounds are used for night fire so you can see where they are going in case you don't have NVG's.. They are usually staggered in a magazine for say M16 would be 3 ball 1 tracer but for a SAW it would probably be 5 and 1. They heat the barrel more and cause more carbon build up. Hence they are not liked a lot. I could see in the future how they could get over those stupid things though =P I guess what I mean is bullets dont just "Glow" anytime they are shot. You made it sound like thats what you thought all bullets do... Marines are broke and Tracers are more expensive and a "Crutch" and SAS wouldn't use them as they would give away position... So I don't know if they were going for uber realism in COD or if they were lazy or what but yeah... Game on.
@ double three Wrong Zone bud ----> Quote from Gamer Zone Posting Guidelines: "leave your fanboyism at the door please"
The game looks amazing and the animation is awesome.
Day 1 purchase for me.
Framerate looks ultra smooth and never dips.
I will still buy this game because of the graphics and multiplayer. But honest to god they need to fix that lame AI in this game. just looking at the AI not even turn and shoot at the guy on his side or right infront of him is just pathetic. There is a reason i play my games on hardcore or the highest level possible, simply because i cant deal with stupid AI it makes me want to just use smokes/frags/ or just my knife oh i forgot just punch them in the face.
i mean do you really want to die whilst showing people how to play. Its always like this. I would hope that the final release has a few more enemies on screen as I have been spoilt by resistance and don't want to take any backward steps. Looking very smooth though. Maybe they can show us another environment next time, I already live in a concrete jungle. edit yeah, the judge will be back soon and I will roll with you on gta. aint had time to beat it even though i got it early but no worries, i can hold my own;)
I miss Judge Dread /cry Game on. Hit me up tomorrow for some GTA online if you like bro. I finally saw both endings and got most pigeons...
This title is soooooo beautiful... The lighting is so gorgeous, and the effects....the animations....oh....my....god. ... I am simply stunned that Guerrilla Games could pull this off. It's simply amazing. And to anyone who talks about Gears 2 crapping on this game....you're either jealous with a sincere case of insecurity, or you are a lying sack of sh*t. Killzone 2 will be the first game in history to get all aspects of lighting PERFECTLY matching reality. There are no differences in the way lighting is rendered in Killzone 2, and how it appears in reality. Guerrilla Games really did their research, and I sincerely bow down and humbly thank them for the wonderful technical and artistic achievement that is Killzone 2. *sheds tear of joy*
Game looks great only game on ps3 worth getting
Your a fυcken idiot PP. Half of yesterday was you bashing the PS3 and Killzone 2, all of a sudden you like this game? Fυck off, you are not welcome in our world.
...Are you kidding me? You were just bashing the hell out of the PS3 a while ago. C'mon, would you get out with it already? Are you selling that crapbox or what?
Any game that is being show cased to truly achieve what the PS3 can really do is not going to suck, they simply wouldn't allow it to happen and for all we know that game could have started on easy mode. i think that the fact it will still be in development till the beginning of next year just goes a long way to prove it's going to be immense and compared to resistance 2 (which looks way behind in it's development) just says to me that Guerrilla games are going for a near perfect polish.
You are so right. Another point: This PRE-ALPHA footage ALREADY blows away EVERYTHING that EVER came before it, in terms of graphical polish, lighting, effects, animations....EVERYTHING. It's un-f*cking-believable.
Insomniac work differently to most developers. They've said bvefore that they are getting the game running. then texture crunching and such next. I'm sure it'll be almost as much a treat on the eyes.
that looks incredible they managed to match the CGI trailer everyone complained about now they need use the time remaining (which is a lot) to sort out the average AI and makes the game more fast-paced and more frantic the latter two is easy- just increase player and AI speed and pop in more enemies the former should be the main focus of the tiem they have left
This game will have beta testers coming out their arses making sure it plays as good as it looks, just knowing they have to compete with COD4 and by release time Gears2 will have them going through it with a fine toothed-comb. Now all I need to know is what the multiplayer modes they'll have, plus I hope bots have returned, loved playing the first game with bots.
I have watch the trailer..
I have seen the new shots..
I have seen the 2 movies at Gamersyde…
This is a HUGE disappoint… An additional one… one of a very long list… Second only to the in-game graphic of MGS4…
How someone with a least a little capability of judgment could consider this “green-gray COD in close and small environments” the masterpiece that SONY has promised us long time ago???
SONY you are only “never-ending promises” and LIES!!!
WTF are you on about.
The thing with the 360 is, it only has the unreal engine.
This game stamps on gears head and squashes it through the floor.
A.I is on easy mode, it's for noobs on the game floor. If it were on hard, most ppl wouldn't get anywhere.lol.
KILLZOWNED IS CORRECT!
Jump out and play beyond.
The 360 is starting to die everywhere now. People have seen the light.
Outsold everywhere on the planet.
I really do hope they will improve it a lot. There was no visible AI in this video and that is not a good sign. Looks very decent though. EVEN if it was in easy mode it sucked big time. No game is this easy.