Oh boy. The incredibly pointless hacker group known as DERP, who have targeted a host of gaming servers, has apparently taken down the PSN for many. - PSLS
Don't be surprise its just another hack group trying to make a name for themselves.
Seriously a group going after Planetside 2 servers took down sony with another DDoS attack? Uh oh... get your fire proof pants on. This is about to get TOASTY!
Anyone who says that PSN can be hacked because banks and goverments get hacked aswell are misinformed, the major PSN hack was preventable by Sony but they neglected to update their software, it was Sony's fault they got hacked and they even admitted it, this hack doesnt seem as serious though
@lolCHILLbro: You don't know what you're talking about. It wasn't a hack. Someone from Sony gave someone else security keys to PSN which allowed that individual to log into PSN with developer credentials. It had nothing to do with outdated server software or any of the B.S. FUD people like you love to spread. Sony didn't admit it was their fault, they simply apologized for what happened. You really don't know anything about the situation. You probably think people's credit card information was compromised and thousands of people became victims of identity theft.
But DDoSing isn't hacking. It's painfully simple to do, which is why so many people do it (for fun, I guess).
@DragonKnight One of my sorta friends in real life is a total XBox fanboy and tries to tell me his friends credit card was hacked through the PSN incident. He's one of the people that also thinks Live has some magical better online gameplay then PSN. Even after telling him that the data was not guaranteed to have been compromised and that even if it was that it was encrypted to where no one could do anything with it he tried to tell me his friend, out of dozens of millions of people, was targeted by the "hacker". Anyways.. DDoS isn't a form of hacking whatsoever. In fact it's a great excuse for nobodies to take the credit for any online service going down. This "hacker" group probably did nothing and just took credit for all we know. Same thing as anonymous. Thousands of kids have taken credit for things they didn't do or think that them supporting something just by agreeing with it makes them a part of it and they just label themselves as part of the group. It's a really dull subject.
@lolCHILLbro You do know this is not a hack right in anyway shape or form. A DDos attack is flooding servers with excessive traffic. It can happen to any & all organisations. You keep thinking XBL is some kind failproof network. Admittedly very reliable but not failproof to attacks such as this. Man I really do hope they don't target MS because that would be shitty for their users but it would be nice to have you shut up :p.
@edgeofsins: Yeah, there's always "a friend" isn't there? That's when you ask "why didn't he report it to his CC company or bank?" and then there is no answer because it's B.S.
They also got valve and blizzard so don't be too surprised. Assholes trying to ruin it for everybody.
"The vulnerability was a known vulnerability" said Sony about the major PSN hack, it was Sony's fault that PSN was hacked the way it was, also i never said this inncident was a hack i was replying to someone above me who refered to it as a hack, thanks http://www.youtube.com/watc...
@lolCHILLbro: Like I've already said, you don't know what you're talking about. PSN suffered an external intrusion due to someone gaining keys to access it with developer credentials. The video you posted gets enough information wrong and the "known vulnerability" you are latching on to is never elaborated on. Stupid people blame victims and only blame victims because they want the victim to look bad. So, to repeat, it wasn't a hack and it wasn't Sony's fault. That's like saying a bank robbery is the bank's fault because it holds money. @nuke: "Even the government disagrees with you stating that software was left unpatched by Sony allowing one of the most serious breaches to occur." And do you know what that's based on? It's based on one alleged "expert" looking at an old report on Sony's servers and not actually investigating anything. And again, it wasn't a hack. It was someone with keys to PSN accessing the network with developer credentials. No amount of server software in the world could prevent it because the system is designed to allow access to those with the security keys to access it. For the umpteenth time, it wasn't a hack. External Intrusion doesn't immediately mean "hack." Credit Card information was encrypted, and the personal information that MAY, I stress MAY, have been compromised is public domain information that anyone can access on Google. It's the kind of information that your very own email accounts DO NOT encrypt. So if you're going to try and blame Sony for it, then guess what, you have to blame Microsoft and the entire internet for it as well. Do you think Microsoft's Live/Hotmail/Outlook encrypts your personal information? Your name, your address, your telephone number is all easily accessed in the public domain. The important information that could really damage you, that being your Credit Card information, was encrypted thus safe. Do you need me to provide links that tell you that the CC info was safe? Why am I even talking about this with the original MS fanboy that started the topic, and probably the biggest MS fanboy on this site? It wouldn't matter what proof I showed you, you'd still latch on to it being a hack that was Sony's fault and no one else's. Waste of time.
@dragon: Even the government disagrees with you stating that software was left unpatched by Sony allowing one of the most serious breaches to occur: "The Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) has levied the fine for “a serious breach of the Data Protection Act”; it is calling the case “one of the most serious” it has ever dealt with. Investigators have been critical of Sony’s lack of security, and today’s announcement says that the issue could have been prevented if its software had been up to date. It is also claimed that “technical developments” left many user passwords unsecured." There are gazillion more sources than that: http://thenextweb.com/uk/20... More of what the UK government said: “If you are responsible for so many payment card details and log-in details then keeping that personal data secure has to be your priority. In this case that just didn’t happen, and when the database was targeted – albeit in a determined criminal attack – the security measures in place were simply not good enough. “There’s no disguising that this is a business that should have known better. It is a company that trades on its technical expertise, and there’s no doubt in my mind that they had access to both the technical knowledge and the resources to keep this information safe. “The penalty we’ve issued today is clearly substantial, but we make no apologies for that. The case is one of the most serious ever reported to us. It directly affected a huge number of consumers, and at the very least put them at risk of identity theft. “If there’s any bright side to this it’s that a PR Week poll shortly after the breach found the case had left 77 per cent of consumers more cautious about giving their personal details to other websites. Companies certainly need to get their act together but we all need to be careful about who we disclose our personal information to.”
@ DragonKnight You're the one that doesn't know what you're talking about. Sony knew they had security "holes" on the PSN but neglected to do anything about them, reason why they apologized to me and gave me 2 games. Sad to see the sheeps in here agreeing with your misinformation but fanboys will be fanboys. https://www.google.pt/?gws_...
@iamalwayswrong: Sony didn't apologize to you. Sony did the responsible thing and stood up to apologize to everyone for something that was not their fault and beyond their control. That's what a good company does. Sony didn't have to apologize, they didn't have to give anyone anything because they didn't do anything wrong. Someone gained access to PSN keys, that's not something they could have prevented even with the best security software in existence. So for the last time, no matter how much you MS fanboys want it to be true even now, PSN wasn't hacked and what happened wasn't Sony's fault. Blaming the victim is a sign of mental dysfunction.
@ DragonKnight you're just as blind as the people that defended X1 DRM and imo you are worst kind of fanboy: the corporate apologist. http://www.lensoftruth.com/... "Sony chief information officer, Shinji Hasejima made an astounding and disturbing admission in the Tokyo press conference: the company was fully aware of the “vulnerabilities” in PlayStation Network." “Sony chief information officer, Shinji Hasejima made an astounding and disturbing admission in the Tokyo press conference: the company was fully aware of the “vulnerabilities” in PlayStation Network. In the interview Hasejima stated: “The vulnerability of the network was a known vulnerability, one known of in the world. But Sony was not aware of it… was not convinced of it. We are now trying to improve aspects of it.” “We thought we had taken enough management and control measures (to ensure the network was secure), but looking back, there might have been room for further enhancement,” Shiro Kambe added, “We have to admit we were not fully sufficient.” They were negligent AND incompetent and they admitted it themselves. That is why they apologised to the people that trusted them to keep their personal information secure as much as possible, which they didn't according to their OWN words. You can call me a MS fanboy all day long as much as you want but it won't change the truth.
Wow, DragonKnight is floundering pretty bad. "For the last time guys, those sources are false. Sony just chose to give the hackers unrestricted access to your data!". That... that's supposed to be better?
@DragonKnight so our addresses are public information huh? Ok tell me what my address is please.
@iamalwayswrong: I've already seen that same information before and I will respond to you in the same way as the first person who used that to try and place blame on Sony, "what vulnerabilities were known?" It's easy to take what someone says like "we knew about vulnerabilities" and take it at face value because you want something to be true, you want someone to look bad, but what if the "vulnerabilities" they are talking about aren't what YOU think they are. See, you see the word vulnerability and immediately jump to "hole in security" that a hacker made it through. Except it wasn't. It was leaked PSN keys that granted developer credentials. Vulnerability then becomes something else entirely. You're just loving any chance you can get to lump blame on a victim. And why? Yeah, obviously Sony did this to themselves right? They must have wanted to have to shut down and move the entire PSN server warehouse to another location, hiring all new employees as part of many measures to ensure something like that didn't happen again. You can't anticipate and protect against leaks, that's why they're leaks. But hey, let's hope that you're not out driving one day, stop at a red light, and some idiot smashes into your car. Because then it would be your fault for stopping and letting the car hit you in the first place right? @Volkama: "For the last time guys, those sources are false. Sony just chose to give the hackers unrestricted access to your data!". Point out where I said that. Because I believe what I said was "someone obtained keys" not "Sony gave someone keys." I love seeing the kind of spin logic people are using here. It's very entertaining. @andibandit: What makes you think I have, or care to have, your address? My possession, or lack thereof, of that information doesn't disprove my statement. Your address is part of the public domain. Hell, if you email someone, all anyone has to do is go into the source code of the email (which in outlook is as easy as right clicking on the email) and do an IP address trace to find out your city and they can go from there. Or, if they wanted, they could just go to any government archives office and obtain the information there. Addresses are only as private as you make them, there is no legal responsibility on anyone to make your personal address private information. Why else do you think people use fake addresses online?
AndiBandit, Give me your full name and ill give you your full address and mailing list.
DragonKnight, what spin? Sony have 'keys', somebody malicious "obtained" one. You've already ruled out hacking, so it's implicit that the key was given. Whether directly to the perpetrator or otherwise. The only thing you say that I can agree with is that Sony were a victim in this, and not malicious in their own actions. But nobody is saying they were (on this occasion, though I'd be quite curious to see how you try and 'spin' the root kit or COOPA incidents).
@Volkama: What spin? Your quote attempted to place the blame on Sony by twisting what I said. You and I agree that a leak occurred at Sony, but that doesn't place the blame on Sony. It's not like Kaz found someone and gave them the keys to do this. As for the rootkit thing, that's irrelevant to this discussion and it's very telling that whenever someone absolutely has to find something to blame Sony for, that's the fall back position even though that was Sony BGM and not SCE. But if you're looking for my "on the record" opinion on that specific scandal, Sony were in the wrong. I don't deny that at all. Was the rootkit intended to prevent piracy? Yes. Was the way it prevented piracy good, right, or ethical? Hell no. But I want you to explain to me how that has any relevance to the PSN outage, gaming in general, or SCE. I'm out of bubbles, but I can still read responses.
"What spin? Your quote attempted to place the blame on Sony by twisting what I said. You and I agree that a leak occurred at Sony, but that doesn't place the blame on Sony." Of course that puts some degree of blame on Sony. I don't understand how you can say otherwise, unless you have no concept of responsibility? As for the root kit and COOPA references, it was just an off the cuff remark bracketed away but actually there is clear relevance to this discussion. 2 different divisions of Sony getting embroiled in controversy over bad practice obtaining/holding user data inappropriately. We're discussing corporate responsibility here, so it's not exactly a tenuous connection. Meh the hackers are the bad guys. Sony have (or had) clear room for improvement. Hopefully it's all in order now, aint nobody in this discussion that wants to see more problems.
I'm not loving anything, I'm just against your misinformation fanboy. http://hothardware.com/News... "obviously Sony did this to themselves right?" Yes they did. When they didn't do EVERYTHING they could to protect the data of MILLIONS of consumers that trusted them, they are just as much at fault as the hackers responsible for the PSN attack. It was their RESPONSIBILITY to do everything they could to prevent attacks from hackers but according to their OWN words they neglected to do so, hence the apologies and 2 free games. BTW I would like a link that states that the attack happened because of leaked psn keys.
@DragonKnight Uh, your first post is where you said it pal. Here, I'll paste it for you so you don't have to scroll...It's right there man, you said "some from sony ga ve someone else security keys to PSN..." You're wrong man. Doesn't matter what you want to call it, but Sony wasn't a helpless victim. People get paid a lot of money to prevent things like this from happening and they openly admitted their were some holes which should have been patched. DragonKnight + 16h ago | Well said @lolCHILLbro: You don't know what you're talking about. It wasn't a hack. Someone from Sony gave someone else security keys to PSN which allowed that individual to log into PSN with developer credentials. It had nothing to do with outdated server software or any of the B.S. FUD people like you love to spread. Sony didn't admit it was their fault, they simply apologized for what happened. You really don't know anything about the situation. You probably think people's credit card information was compromised and thousands of people became victims of identity theft. #1.1.3Agree(81) | Disagree(15) | Report
Just found an article about the "leaked PSN keys" or should I say servers? http://hothardware.com/News... "Sony has sent an open letter to Congress detailing and defending its actions in the wake of multiple (successful) hack attempts over the past two weeks. The company previously declined to attend a hearing scheduled in the wake of its data theft debacle. The head of that hearing, Mary Bono Mack, tore the company up one side and down the other for its shortcomings; this recent missive is an apparent attempt to save face. Ironically for Sony, the company's data was stolen right around the time period it brushed off any concerns that Anonymous' attacks could negatively impact its security or systems. Faced with irrefutable evidence that its servers were riddled with security flaws, Sony has instead claimed it "has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack designed to steal personal and credit card information for illegal purposes." Servers fanboy, not leaked PSN keys... but hey Sony isn't responsible for their servers being "riddled with security flaws" or am I wrong fanboy?
hackers are not anyone's friend whether its psn or xblive. End of the day they mess up meaning gamers around the world can't enjoy what they like best PLAYING GAMES
Don't label hackers so freely.. these people aren't hackers, they're just a bunch of kids angry at society using low level techniques. There are many good hackers who do wonderful things on a daily basis that just doesn't get labelled as a hack. Go check this out: http://www.engadget.com/201... That's the sort of stuff real hackers do.
I think this sums up the feelings of everyone who has ever been hacked or seen the results of hackers. They only do more harm than good. http://static2.wikia.nocook...
At least they got their name right.
My psn is working fine However around 5pm est dc universe got really laggy than I got booted
That would be really interesting if the article said that each and every psn user was affected...but it didnt.
Same for me, but I didn't got booted. It simply lagged 'till it everyone got stuck in place (funny enough the text chat was still working and everyone started typing "mister freeze attack" on it LOL). After 10 minutes or so, I gave up and hop into AC4, and it was working fine for online challenges. This was on PS4 mind you, so I can't say if PSN went down on PS3 (although I believe it's the same servers so I guess PSN was mostly fine and only DCUO got affected to such extent).
Why is this happening so often on the psnotwork? By this time they should have already build a more secured system, no?
It's not a hack can't you read?
the liked hacked almost every online game they crashed wow us servers and lol servers. and they hacked even club penguin the game that no one play anymore and many other things. they are just douchebags that don't have lives trying to screw things for other people.
Poor PSN :( Live has never been hacked
actually, there have been several reports of people's XBL accounts being hacked... Yet not a single reported case of anyone's CC info/accounts being used maliciously because of the breach nearly 3 years ago. also, if you bothered to read, this wasn't a PSN hack, it was a DDoS attack on planetside 2.
Jesus christ attack Farking EA not the gamers you reatrds! Edit:My bros been playing PS4 all day and he's been signed in all day.
Or pedophile websites, terrorist sites, rape video sites, etc... Or just get a life.
Bad idea, it's better to even avoid going to those kind of websites. Hackers risk being targeted instead.
Cant exactly hack sites you cant locate. Even if you did somehow find one, your better off staying away.
Didn't Anonymous take down a big pedo site awhile ago?
Those kind of sites are mostly on the Deep Web and hackers won't mess there because they will get hacked back. DDoS attackers are not hackers. If they step into the deep web, they will probably get destroyed by real hackers
It's not PSN itself, it's the PSN version of DCUO they hacked. Edit: @ doctorstrange it must be a regional thing then, i was just playing about 20 minutes ago was working fine.
Yes, it's the PSN itself for a lot of people
What's stupid, is it says they were going after Planetside, which isn't even on PSN yet.
They got EA yesterday.
EA is the main reason this is all happening.
Ya I was playing multiplayer games all day and wasn't affected. Didn't drop out once.
No need to attack EA; their servers and games already don't work.
They could just attack themselves & save everybody else all this bother.
Who are these low lifes? I'm still online, but knowing some have to stay offline cause of some douche is irksome.
I'd suggest you, and anyone else online, not going off, because it's probably harder to get back on.
These guy are derpy derp no lifes so think about why are these guys doing this? Do they have gfs? Do they have computers in every part of there house?
That sounds like a decent enough life to me.
I have 4 pcs in my house, doesn't mean I'm a no life hacker.
I get what your trying to say but I think you just worded it wrong. I've met a few people just like the ones your describing but that doesn't apply to everyone that's computer geeks.
I swear, I just want these turds to face justice and be jailed. Life-time community service by helping out these hacked companies to build stronger online infrastructure/securities would be sweet, sweet justice.
Why do they think negatively effecting the gamer is helping anything?
That's what I was thinking--at least their name suits them well.
This is why I can't get on PSN? This is a very bad move on these hackers part. Sony know how to track down hackers if they haven't already. These guys are going to prison for a very long time.
Hahaha. Right. The boys back at the lab are working in shifts to crack this case....
and still some defend the attention seekers..want to look cool hack the FBI or presidents computer then dodge warrant of arrest of police..
yes they are doing the opposite of the Robin Hood approach, fk with the poor and ignore the rich.
Ain't it though.
These idiots are a waste of air!!