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Submitted by Abriael 110d ago | news

The Last of Us’ Bill One of The “Most Intriguing New LGBT Characters of 2013″ According to GLAAD

Naughty Dog's The Last of Us can line up another award for this ending year, as the LBGT media advocacy organization GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) named the game's quirky character Bill as one of the "most intriguing new LGBT characters of 2013" (PS3, The Last Of Us)

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ssj4wolf  +   110d ago
Ellie: oh why are all these pages stuck together? XD
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ifistbrowni  +   110d ago
im just fucking with you.

EDIT: just read through all the comments. I thought they made it pretty obvious he was gay. Even before picking up the collectible letter that you could give to Bill (optional). Maybe there was some kind of optional dialogue you guys missed or something, but i was certain he was gay.
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mikeslemonade  +   110d ago
I'm a shallow story observer, but for some reason I read into Bill and Frank as partners like Joel and Tess. I thought they were just survival partners not romantic partners.
sobekflakmonkey  +   110d ago
yeah, I had the feeling he was gay as well, the game never screams it at you, but they definitely hint at it.
14Feb-R  +   110d ago
To be honest i didn't see it or feel it. I was shocked when i found it that i missed something like that lol..
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specialguest  +   110d ago
Oh wow i feel so clueless. Haha I truly had no idea and just thought they were duo survivers. For some reason I did not connect the dots.
frostypants  +   110d ago
Yeah, I thought it was pretty obvious. The way he kept saying he was his partner, and how emotional he seemed about it, it seemed clear. I liked how they didn't scream it at you though. Very realistic. Probably the second biggest punch to the gut event in the game aside from the beginning. That character was awesome in general.
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Giul_Xainx  +   110d ago
I knew he was gay because I know some gay people who are drama queens. And boy was bill a drama queen.
itBourne  +   109d ago
Not quite sure how people didnt realize he was gay.. it was pretty damn obvious. If you missed this I feel sorry for you, because you probably also do not see how truly deep this story is and most likely do not fully grasp the ending yourself. Let alone all the other subtle details.
dboyc310  +   110d ago
Not just Bill but Sam and his brother and Marlene. They didn't stereotype those characters like many other games would. The Last of Us is a good game because of how it tackles everything from story to characters in a mature way
JsonHenry  +   110d ago
How did I miss that Bill was gay?
Eyeco  +   109d ago
How did you ? there's a cutscene where Ellie finds a certain kind of magazine that belongs to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
JsonHenry  +   108d ago
I didn't pay attention. I just assumed it was naked women in the magazine.

When you have kids cut-scenes become times for getting juice, telling them to stop coloring on the walls, or figuring out why they are crying so you miss half of what is on screen. :/
medman  +   109d ago
Naughty Dogs brilliance in The Last of Us is all about the understated horrors within that game world. From pedophilia and rape to the consumption of human flesh, they don't beat the player over the head with any of it, but it's definitely there. Bill being gay was just another example of the team at ND leaving suggestive hints for the player, and letting the player fill in the blanks of the experience. They basically said it without needing to say it outright. Naughty Dog is awesome.
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Defectiv3_Detectiv3  +   109d ago
Never realized this. Not sure if it's all that significant but kudos to Naughty Dog?
nutcase13  +   110d ago
I loved the Bill-Ellie scenes, so much emotion in them. Even though it is not related.......HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE :S
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Bimkoblerutso  +   110d ago
Yeah, Naughty Dog are some of the best around at writing characters. They don't write "gay characters" or "straight characters" or this or that type of character. They write characters that extend well beyond single word descriptors.

GLAAD is just another support group that revels in self-irony on a regular basis, but it's good to see that they got one right for a change.
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Killzoner99  +   110d ago
Sony is the most progressive thinking video game company in the world and this only proves it.This is one for the history books.
1nsomniac  +   110d ago
!? what does that even mean, what does Sony have to do with it & what is for the history books?

If your going to make a completely irrelevant comment at least make sure it makes sense!
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rambi80  +   110d ago
They don't censor a lot or interfere with the creative process much.

SPOILERS!!!!

For example, they have a scene in this game where a kid is shot. Infected or not, that scene would not have made it pass a lot of companies.

Even naughty dog were surprised sony never said anything about aspects of the game. They've stated it many times.
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1nsomniac  +   110d ago
It's not their job to censor. They're not the developer & they're not a governing body. I think your taking credit away from where its due & giving a little too much to the wrong people.

I know a lot of funding & help would of been given from Sony & they could of requested things be altered or removed but their not entitled to it by any stretch.
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Killzoner99  +   110d ago
Who published the game? This is a Sony game that features a gay character that GLADD is praising. When has that ever happened before? Sony is building relations between the gay community and gamers . How can you not recognize that? The bigotry on this site makes me sick.
SlapHappyJesus  +   110d ago
Another pointless, and this time wholly unwarranted, praise of Sony from Killzoner.
Not surprised.

While I am generalizing a bit, I always thought the Japanese, as a whole, were a rather traditional and fairly conservative people.
I wouldn't exactly classify them as the face of a libertarian society.
E2S  +   110d ago
couldn't agree more.
AndrewLB  +   109d ago
Oh man... if you had any idea about the true nature of the progressive agenda.

People who call themselves progressives are what the commies used to call "useful idiots", and are someone who believes they are supporting a specific political agenda, while in reality they are supporting its exact opposite. The term was first coined by Vladimir Lenin to describe American Progressives in the early 1900's who thought they were working for a utopian society while in reality they were unwittingly supporting Communism. Under Communism, over a hundred million people were murdered in the 20th century. Hundreds of millions more were raped, tortured, enslaved, and beaten. Lenin used divide and conquer tactics, as well deceit to convince useful idiots to help put him in power. And once he took power, these divided groups were easy prey, and those posing any significant threat were murdered by the government. He essentially wiped out the people who enabled his revolution, the useful idiots.
GraveLord  +   110d ago
Didn't notice any gay characters in the The Last Of Us...

Edit: Thanks for the replies. I may have noticed that if I played it through more than once :D
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1nsomniac  +   110d ago
There isn't any direct references apart from as @ssj4wolf mentioned, the magazine Ellie steals from Bill before they leave is a gay porn mag - with the pages stuck together.
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Lolrus  +   110d ago
It was subtle.. Bill referring to his 'partner' and Ellie jokes about it. If homosexuality is ever brought up in games I hope it is done like this rather than some homosexuality affirmitive action where it is rammed down our throats or so forced, you can just tell its from hipster dev trying to make a statement.

I guess it also favours those people who support gay marriage as well because it rids the stereotype gay characters with some butch strong guy who doesnt have overt gay tendencies (i.e. shows them to be typical human beings).
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jimmywolf  +   110d ago
agree it was very well done i was sad too see him go an pity the way things turn out for him
Lolrus  +   110d ago
@jimmywolf

I could care less for Bill, never liked him xD. I sure as hell wont fall into that pity bandwagon because he's gay partly because the frikkin world was in shambles with zombies tearing the remaining survivors limb from limb. Yet I should be immersed in that narrative, worrying about the gay guy and gay rights? lol
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GribbleGrunger  +   109d ago
It's a little extreme waiting for someone to ram it down your throat to confirm they're homosexual. ... Just ask.
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cyclindk  +   110d ago
How would you "notice" anyway... they might all have been gay for all you know, just closeted. That's the thing about it, no one can know except people themselves... you might be, I might be... 1nsomniac might be, lolrus might be...
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cyclindk  +   110d ago
Opinion doesn't mean you don't have to support your statements, though technically you don't HAVE to do anything, but if you expect people to take even your opinions seriously you MUST support them.

paraphrasing, "they've done more bad than good."

Support this... ready, set, go!
rambi80  +   110d ago
SPOILERS

Joel can find a letter from Bills male partner in a house that he never shows to Bill.
The_Troll_Whisperer  +   110d ago
Which house?
SkippyPaccino  +   110d ago
You should hand bill the note next time... It's priceless
cyclindk  +   110d ago
I read that... didn't take anything overly intimate about it though.. maybe I should reread it.

I mean I always read in between the lines, but I just took it as a partner to partner sort of note, not "partner" to "partner."
Lolrus  +   110d ago
.duplicate
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jino  +   110d ago
Huh? He was gay? I thought he was just friends with the guy.
frostypants  +   110d ago
Did you find the letter? That was kind of a giveaway as most people wouldn't write such a note to a regular friend.
Simco876  +   110d ago
This gay man is *spoilers*

a zombie killing machine in the game!
Eonjay  +   110d ago
LOL. He turned them into a defense force.
theshredded  +   110d ago
kindof surprised how people didn't know he's Gay
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JediDiah  +   110d ago
LGBT is tolerant until you have a different POV.....Duck Dynasty says Hi!
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L0Lcano  +   110d ago
I agree, they are almost fanatical now and anyone who shows personal disagreement is smeared as some hateful homophobe likened to racists and bullies. I guess they really capitalised on the momentum and campaigns and are like juggernauts steamrolling opposition..
SlapHappyJesus  +   110d ago
To be fair, and not really meaning to add fuel to the fire, didn't his comment make bestiality the next step from being gay?
E2S  +   110d ago
Did LGBT cause his to lose his job? No, A+E made that decision.
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Conzul  +   110d ago
That's like saying people don't kill people, guns do.
DevonW  +   109d ago
That's an idiotic statement. He was suspended because he broke his contract. Or do you work in a business where you can just do whatever the hell you like, your employers be damned?
frostypants  +   110d ago
Oh wow...did you really just use the "they're being intolerant of intolerance" line? Wow, man. Just...wow. Guess what? Racism is just a point of view too. Doesn't make it ok.
Underworld  +   109d ago
It is not intolerance. People have legitimate, deeply held beliefs, many religious. They don't hate gay people, they don't wish to see harm come to them, they just have a moral disagreement. That is far different to racists who just straight up hate and want harm to come to people of other races for no reason. Being tolerant doesn't mean you have to agree with everyone and everything everyone does.
DevonW  +   109d ago
Underworld> I'm sorry, but are you honestly saying racism is different from the hate people express towards the LGBT community? I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure just as many people are beaten and killed due to their sexuality as they are because of their race. Get a clue.
E2S  +   109d ago
If you want to be a hateful asshole, you have every right to be. You have rights as in you can't get beat up or shot or get put in jail for being said asshole.

However, everyone else has the right to fire you, laugh at you, mock you, basically make you feel like the piece of crap you are. Freedom of speech is not freedom from others reacting to your speech. I wish more people could tell the difference.
Evilsnuggle  +   110d ago
I just thought they were good friends didn't know there were "lovers". I think two men living together all alone in a abandoned town don't mean your gay in a apocalyptic world. caveat now two men living together in a abandoned town in a non apocalyptic world means you are gay. LOL LOL lol
TheLostCause  +   110d ago
Best LBGT characters according to GLAAD.... Am I the only one who saw the headline and didn't have a clue what they were talking about? :p
BABY-JEDI  +   110d ago
ND are going to have to buy a bigger shed for all their trophys
LoL
Thankfully ND didn't give us a flash back sequence with regards to the sticky pages of the mag. I don't think I could cope with that in a video game
> : O
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dmonee  +   110d ago
I'm either ignorant or just accepting of it but I didn't even notice while playin that the character Bill was homosexual. It went over my head. I loved his character though.Maybe he will be playable via some long awaited DLC! Then it will be a super win for the GLADD and gamers and we will rejoice together!!!!!!!!!
jino  +   110d ago
Wow that went right over my head while playing. I did only do one playthrough though.
ajax17  +   110d ago
I'm surprised so many people didn't know he was gay. I mean wasn't the gay porn magazine enough?
Noctis  +   110d ago
wasn't it like super obvious tho??? i loved that he wasn't a stereotypical gay guy too.
4 for you naughty dog, you go naughty dog
pop-voxuli  +   110d ago
Oh lord.......
Bathyj  +   110d ago
Bill was a great character because W Earl Brown is a great actor. Anyone who hasn't seen Deadwood or his one off role in Justified should check it out.
Gardenia  +   109d ago
So did Naughty Dog officially made him gay or was it made up by the GLAAD. Because nobody here, including me, had any idea that he is gay
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Sevir  +   109d ago
Then what happened to you is you missed the smaller tidbits. But it's clearly obvious! Elle jokes about it when they meet, The "Note" you find which you should have read and given it to Bill, in the house where his partner was hung after he "turned" and bill gets super emotional. Hell the most OBVIOUS telling is the male porn magazines Elle picks up from Bill's base/fortress and reads while Joel and here head,in to Philly where she asks "why are the pages stuck together" and you can clearly but briefly see naked men on the pages.

It's an expertly handled dipiction of characters that simply addresses the human element. No superfluous labels or crazy stereotypical depictions of a particular subset of people that overemphasizes the irrational and often negative outlook that society has on the LGBT community.

It wasn't thrown in your face, it was hinted at with enough evidence for you to fig up and confirm, if you were really looking to explore each of the characters ND introduced in the Story. If you simply played it for the action you'd miss the smaller important details of each of the characters.

It seems like most here missed it while others picked up the clues and went deeper in exploring the characters the way ND intended it when they wrote each and every one of them.
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DevonW  +   109d ago
I myself am gay and have played The Last of Us four times, from beginning to end. Not once did I ever think Bill was gay.
Sevir  +   109d ago
You missed it then bud. If you really paid attention to the clues ND left you'd see it.
Rhezin  +   109d ago
Yeah I know right? I just thought he meant partner as in partner like a partner you have in the westerns, a friend you can rely on. Now, partner means something totally different now *sigh*
AceBlazer13  +   109d ago
When ellie brought up the mags i thought she was just messin around. Wow, bill being gay flew over my head. He's still badass though.
SHAMEonNINJAS  +   109d ago
Gay of the year award? Seriously? And the winner is a character who may or not be gay lol.

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