Since it's launch in 1998, Miyamoto's masterpiece "The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time" has filled the number one spot of many "Best Game Ever" lists. But is it about to give up it's crown?
GTA 4 is not better then Ocarina of Time, in my opinion.
I agree.. surprisingly so but I do agree....
The only gta game that deserves to be compared with Ocarina of time is GTA III IMO Ocarina of time > GTA III fair play ^_^
By Bioshock, and The Half-Life game, also Team Fortress 2.
Dont put FPS's in the same sentence as Zelda games, ESPECIALLY ocarina of time. Its in a different league.
Hey I liked as much as everyone else, but for me The Half-Life Series, and Bioshock are In the Major League, while the Legend Of Zelda has been relegated to the minors for me
Ocarina of Time was okay for it's time. It was no masterpiece. I wanted to like it and I played it for some time but I never finished it. It used Bosses and in my books that's an automatic fail.
I like A Link To The Past way better than Ocarina of TIme and I like GTA4 better than both and GTA3.
Ocarina of time has been overrated to buggery, it's nowhere near the masterpiece some would lead you to believe. It's a good game, yes, but it got, and still gets, more praise than it deserved.
gta4 is good, but ocarina of time is way out of it's league ocarina of time is the best game i've ever played, it was way ahead of it's time when it first released. i don't think gta4 can even touch ocarina of time, ocarina of time was always full of adventures with so many things to do with places to explore. sad thing is he's getting thumbs down for stating the truth by saying ocarina of time is better than gta4, i bet it's just a bunch of 14 year olds who never played ocarina of time before and think gta is everything. shoot man, he even said it was HIS opinion and yet 10 thumbs down. how sad.
I like gta but it's far from perfect or innovative, most of the 'bribed' american and european press gave their perfect score already, but now i am reading magazines where they give credit in its right place, and criticize the shortcomings of the game. I am playing gta4, and its replay value surpass by far its competitors but the story, graphics and creativity are to be considered as its downfalls; ok you still disagree, slash the graphics and creativity, and take alone the story, it's linear, old and boring, how can a game be perfect without a good story? don't tell me that gta isn't about the story, it also should be considered, or I can say that warhawk is the best game out there... finally imo, there isn't the best game, it's all relative, but i like God of War the most, that badass kratos, i never enjoyed a game from the first minute till the last like this one.... and Ocarina was a great game.
I don't think either one is special I think Zelda: Link to The Past, and Windwaker are much better I think I like San Andreas more than GTA4 because of the variety in environment (I'm one of those who liked the country and desert stretches between cities.
this is a ridiculous statement. Ocarina of time is still played and talked about. and its 10 years later. how about we have this convosation in 10 years huh.
"GTA 4 is not better then Ocarina of Time, in my opinion." I do agree, but then again I never believed Ocarina of Time was the best game ever either. I've played it on the 64, and I played Master Quest on the Gamecube. Final Fantasy 7, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 are easily better. Heck even Xenogears and FF8 was better, etc. There are also better games in other genres. I don't know anyone who considers it the best game, or even the best RPG, and I am surrounded by gamers on a daily basis. Don't get me wrong, it was good, but a little too kiddy. The plot was really simple, and the characters were one-dimensional.
why is gta getting such good scores? sorry but i hired it out to see what all the fuss is about and to me its nothing special, the graphics are bad and almost look last gen with the horrible textures lighting and i dont know about the ps3 but the jaggies in the 360 version make the game look awefull, not to mention the pop in and framerate! i have never been a fan of gta but come on are people giving it 10 out of 10 because of the name or because it actually deserves it? sandbox games are boreing and the story is nothing to write home about, this game is built on hype and sad people that think titty jokes are funny.
@1.4 "Dont put zelda in the same league as FPS" Why? Because using a sword/range and weapons to resolve the conflict is different than fists/guns? 3rd person perspective different than first? Your arbi9trary rules are silly. Zelda was fun -- in its day. But BioShock raises the bar for immersion and storytelling. You *felt* so much more in BioShock than most games before it. Macking grade-school rules just dont have any value when trying to discuss things such as this.
I will also have to agree, I bought into the GTA4 hype, and it let me down, I'm going back to replay GTA: San Andreas, the definitive version in the GTA franchise, sorry Rockstar.
In my opinion, GTA IV blows Ocarina of Time out of the water. It has a way better and more complex story than OOT. I hate it when people list their opinions as "truth", AllahAkbar, that is only your opinion that OOT is better, it is not fact, so don't state it as such.
I consider Ocarina of Time one of the games that is truly a 10. From story, game design, everything. Grand Theft Auto IV is a very good game, but not a timeless classic like Ocarina.
I always like A link to the past more.
M.U.L.E = best ever! http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... almost all current gaming concepts can be traced back to this game.... (network play, multiplayer, Coop and Competitive game play) (Wheeler Dealers might of had this distinction as it is from the same developer but only sold 50 copies! (1978))
I have never played the game. But, can you truly say its the best game ever? Would you still go back and play it over Ocarina? Just like Bloodmask said, Ocarina is a timeless classic...i recently played it in the summer...ive beaten the game countless times, and i probably not done. It may have done alot for the genre, but that doesnt conclude to best game ever. Note: I didnt disagree and "I agree.. surprisingly so but I do agree...." why so suprising?
absolutely I would play again... played ever year since it was created... (and the agreement is because some times you have acted in a less then likeable manner ^_^ (of course everyone does once and while!)) (and I see someone disagreed with you Oo.... )
we grew up in a different age :) that's probably the reason we disagree. "and the agreement is because some times you have acted in a less then likeable manner ^_^" Oh No! ...everyone likes me...lol.
absolutely... you would have to be an old computer geek like me to even have heard of MULE. Hmm maybe it is time for a remake of it... last one was 2002 I believe (has been remade 7 times!)
GTAIV doesnt deserve a 10 in my opinion it deserves more of a 9.7 or a 9.8 just because of graphics.
It's already the 3rd on GameRankings! GTA4 PS3 is first, GTA4 360 is second and Ocarina is 3rd! Personally I don't think Ocarina should have been there. If anything, the best game of all time should have been either Mario 64, MGS1 or FFVIII IMO... And now... GTA4 is THE KING.
VIII not VII? Oo and mario64 as best ever.... Now see Breakfast statements like this I could not agree with LOL
Its all a matter of opinion. I think FF9 was above all. Different person, different game tastes.
I just prefer VIII. Good point Breakfast. "Different person, different game tastes." Some like VII, you like IX and I like VIII.
gtaiv is in no way the best game ever made. its great, but its not the best. it'll never be considered a classic IMO.
Final Fantasy X is the best. look this is coming from an FFVII fan
@MK RED http://www.metacritic.com/s... According to metacritic GTA4 PS3 is first with 100 followed by Zelda OoT with 99 and third being GTA4 360 with 99 as well. Don't you find it strange how two games with the same rating are still dealt 2nd and 3rd?
Good call Hellbringer but the thing is that MetaCritic and GameRanking have different systems. MC uses all reviews for overall ratings but has less reviews specially for older games. GR only considers select reviews for overall but has much more reviews for oldies Still, MetaCritic is considered the official site for movie, music and game ratings so I think you're right. GTA4 is first, Ocarina is 2nd and again, GTA4 is 3rd. lol.
Id prefer Zelda over any of the FF games.
Based on review scores, yes. But I have never rated Ocarina of Time, Zelda really never should have gone 3D. I can't think of a single defining element since it did.
Some people is seriously STUPID. GTA IV has less than 40 reviews, this game will have at least 80. It's impossible to keep such a high average after more reviews start to appear. LOL, I remember that Bioshock also was considered to be "TEH BEST GAME EVAR" but after more reviews appeared, the game dissapeared of that list. Even Super Mario Galaxy could not stay in first place. I feel sorry for the people who thinks that GTAIV will remain on top, Zelda Ocarina of Time will never be matched in terms of critical acclaim.
80 reviews? That number isn't even close. GTA has 34 and Zelda has 32 so by your logic, Zelda should be even lower! http://www.gamerankings.com... GTA4 for 360 already has more reviews than Ocarina of Time.
Both 360 and ps3 reviews of gta4 are more. PS3 has it at 25 reviews on metacritic I imagine 360 having even more reviews. Zelda OoT on the other hand only 22 reviews.
Good point. The funny thing is that I have 6 disagrees in my previous post... which was just about the facts of rating sites. lol.
^^ For the record I agreed with you.
And now, let's wait for a sh1tload of stupid commentaries by the chimpanzees of N4G. Go guys!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! !!! LEGEND of Zelda:ocarina of time will Stay NUMBER 1....
Ocarina of Time and Super Metroid are the two best games ever made. To even mention GTA4 in the same sentence does alot of disrespect to them. I've played GTA4 for about 12-15 hours now, and it's great, but to say it deserves such an honor as this is laughable. The game came out less than a week ago, that alone disqualifies it from the award. I think once all the hype dies down we're going to hear some of the games faults FINALLY be acknowledged by people who right now say it's "perfect". It's funny, too, that people have such an awful double standard for video games. If any of these problems that GTA4 has showed up in any other games, they would be reamed by critics. Pop-in, framerate issues, broken driving, really poor cover mechanics...just to name a few. You know what's worse? TeamXbox actually had the nerve to call GTA4 our "Citizen Kane"...wtf is wrong with people?
Ocarina > GTA IV by far.
mk_red, listen kid. Go and see how many reviews the BIG games get NOW. around 70-80. As i said before, it's impossible to keep such a high average with less than half of the reivews that GTAIV is going to have. So keep dreaming if you think that gtaiv will dethrone ocarina of time. that's something impossible to achieve.
GTA4 doesn't come close. It is just the same old GTA but spruced up for the next-gen of consoles. Zelda was truly innovational. When ppl forget about GTA4 I will still play Ocarina of time.
Anyone who disagrees with the previous comment is either too young to play GTA4, or they're still stuck in the hype. I completely agree with you man. Some weird sh!t is happening with the media and all this hype is blinding people. The game doesn't innovate anything, except for cinematic presentation, unfortunately the technical issues even hold that back.
hahahaha zelda >>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>> >>>> GTA IV
That should go without saying. Nintendo games are pure sh!t, including Ocarina. They have no substance, no story, just childish gameplay and absolutely no themes. You wouldn't say Dumbo is the greatest film of all time, but then again, Disney did produce quality until recently, while Nintendo has never even scraped the bottom of the barrel. Anyway, the PS3 version in no#1 is totally deserved. Based on current rating criteria, the same by which Ocarina was judged, it bends it over and rapes it and every other game.
You should'nt even be mentioning gta4 in the same sentence as Zelda for one rockstar blows ass . anyway
lol gtaiv better than zelda, just LOL LOL LOL
over taking OOT? *grabs a rope and a chair* good bye cruel world.
theres still time.....
Ocarina of Time is too old for me to play. I can't really take that huge of a step backwards in terms of graphics. Wii is about as last gen as I can stand and even that is pushing it sometimes. I guess I'll never play that classic.
This quote is SICKENING. You are so pathetic. You shouldn't call yourself a gamer.
Well I don't play Go Fish and Old Maid anymore, either. Maybe I like to keep up with the times. Are you going to go buy a 10 year old car? or a newer model? BTW I never owned a N64. Wait, I remember playing part of this game back when I was in college my roommate had a 64. I only played a few hours. Maybe I'll check it out on Wii Virtual Console
The best game for me is always going to be the Half-Life series (both 1 and 2). I enjoyed Ocarina of time, but it really isn't my type of game. The best game of all time is based off of opinion alone and noone can say what is truly the best game of all time. On the subject of GTA 4, I don't think it is the best game of all time, but I am literally blown away by the detail in the world and the graphics they pulled off. The gameplay is very fun too.
I totally agree about Half Life. *spooge*
i again agree with the Half Life series. the innovation in gameplay from HL1 to HL2 is what sequels should be. ive played 5-6 hours of GTAIV and it feels soooo....GTAIII. not to mention that cover system is kinda crappy.
FF7 is number one in my book....but I never played the N64 Zeldas so oh well....
Damn it took this long for something to come close to even toping TLoZ OoT? lol damn it will be even longer if something tops GTA IV. I have my money on MGS 4 to top GTA IV :D
It's interesting - the era someone started gaming really does appear to determine what they think is best: then PC - mule/infocom then arcade pacman/galega then nintendo stuff zelda/mario then PC sierra/doom Then more nintendo zelda/mario then PC HL/ then console GTA
IMHO articles like this are pointless. It's up to you to decide what the best game is, not the other way around.
Ocarina of Time as a Fn Classic. You really have to measure "that" game in the series that was "Breakthrough". GTA3 as it for the GTA Series and Ocarina of time as it for Zelda the N64. Majoras Mask Vs Vice City Twilight Princess Vs GTA4 Ocarina of time is still one of the best Games I've played. GTA sorta grows on you and it's becoming more like "real-Life" in a sense so there is a lot you can do with it, in terms of "content". the graphics got better as well with "new" hardware. Replay Value will always go to the GTA series. How can it not? It's a sandbox box. Zelda is not that type of game..Plus I can't imagine Zelda on a PS3 or Xbox 360. Now that would be Awesome. Well that's why we have "Fable" lol.
:0 ........Chrono Cross! OMG, that is above and beyond Zelda.
Naah, don't think so. The Orange Box, Bioshock and SMG all have been standing first.
Ocarina of time is crap it all about Link to the past on snes. GTA 4 does all the little things right thats what makes it so great, you can even watch tv in your house.
Yeah I know right, isn't that awesome?...you know what would have been better though? Decent shooting and driving mechanics, as they do take up most of the game and all. GTA4 - Jack of all trades, master of NONE.
different standards. hardly any reviews compared to other games as well. go to gamerankings and see yourself...half the sites that rated Z:OoT aren't even up any more.