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Apple's backdoor shenanigans pay off

On March 18th, Apple released the Safari 3.1 web browser for Windows and the Mac. With the release, Apple also included Safari 3.1 with Apple's Software Update service on Windows. It was labeled as an update with the option to install pre-selected. The update has been pushed to millions of Windows users of Apple's other software products, like iTunes. Normally, Apple's Software Update service is not used for delivery of new products. Clearly, this is a calculated risk by Apple that has annoyed and/or alienated some users.

However, the question is, did it work? Did Apple gain browser market share on Windows based on this move? The answer is yes.

Safari 3.0 on Windows never gained much market share, peaking at .07%. However, Safari 3.1 on Windows is rapidly gaining market share, already tripling Safari 3.0's peak.

Note: As of April 18th, Apple's update now lists Safari as 'new' software if not already installed.

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Kakkoii3491d ago (Edited 3491d ago )

Meh, I still doubt it would be enough for them to even get near where Firefox is at.

Due to the fact that Firefox has such a HUGE fanbase/following.

Website dedicated to spreading Firefox even.
http://www.spreadfirefox.co...

Firefox is truly the better browser from a "technical" standpoint.

And on the point of "personal preference", well that's up to the person of course. But my personal preference is having the best built browser, not the best looking browser. (Cause I can change how it looks easily :).

And the fact that Firefox was started by a couple of guys and that they didn't sellout when they became big, is another big plus for me.

aaquib3491d ago

Too bad Safari runs circles around Firefox in ANY Java or HTML test.

Kakkoii3491d ago (Edited 3491d ago )

Your talking about the newest Safari.

Once Firefox 3 is finished and released, it will run circles around Safari.

Go download the version of Safari that came out when Firefox 2 came out and compare them on the Acid test.

(and btw, HTML and Java are only a very small part of the "technical" area of browsers.
Firefox 2 beats Safari hands down in Security and functionality. Firefox is recommended among the majority of people because of real reasons, not because of hype and false claims.

MorganX3491d ago (Edited 3491d ago )

Too bad Safari is a security risk, at least on Windows, with no patches since release.

I actually prefer the look and feel as well as its bookmark system to IE. It's fast enough, but in the end IE's caching makes it faster after the first day.

Also, Safari is unusable in the Enterprise for security reasons. IE has security zones and security can be managed with GPOs. For home, though, I really wish Apple would fix the security issues. It is a slick browser.

SaiyanFury3490d ago

Agreed. I've been using Firefox since the first version and it does everything I need in a browser. I'll never use anything Apple, even on my Windows XP OS. Nothing about Apple appeals to me, including the Safari browser. I'm happy with Firefox, and that won't change.

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Imallvol73491d ago

They pulled this crap on me. I used Safari about 3 times before I deleted. Horrible and unusable after being spoiled by firefox. I hate apples crap. (i do love my overpriced ipod touch though)

Miyaka3491d ago

Apple should stop pestering Windows users, I don't know how well it would work in the long run anyway. It took the Mozilla Foundation years to get where they are now, Apple should work patiently to gain the user's trust. The Foundation is limited to the grassroots Spread Firefox ad campaign, Apple is a big corporation, they can spend money on advertising. Why not do this, instead of checking the Safari box by default in Software Update?

Kakkoii: "And the fact that Firefox was started by a couple of guys and that they didn't sellout when they became big, is another big plus for me."

Dave Hyatt started the Firefox project with Blake Ross, it was called Phoenix at the time (and later renamed Mozilla Firebird, and then Firefox). He also contributed to the creation of another alternative browser, called Camino (née Chimera). Hyatt was hired by Apple in mid-2002. He's developing Safari now. :-)

Dave Hyatt at Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Interview with Camino Project head Mike Pinkerton
http://arstechnica.com/arti...

Kakkoii: "Once Firefox 3 is finished and released, it will run circles around Safari. Go download the version of Safari that came out when Firefox 2 came out and compare them on the Acid test."

Nope. Safari 2.0.2 was the first publicly-released browser to pass the Web Standards Project's Acid2 test in 2005. Safari's WebKit build r31356 scores 100/100 in the Acid3 test. Firefox 3 will eventually pass Acid3, I'd say both browsers are pretty much standard compliant.

http://www.webstandards.org...

http://webkit.org/blog/173/...

MorganX: "Too bad Safari is a security risk, at least on Windows, with no patches since release."

Yeah, right.

"Apple on Tuesday released Safari 3.1 for users on Mac OS X and Windows. Along with new features are 13 security updates for the Safari browser, WebCore, and WebKit."

Safari 3.1 update fixes 13 security flaws, March 18, 2008
http://www.news.com/8301-10...

MorganX3491d ago (Edited 3491d ago )

My fault. I didn't mean since Safari for Windows was released. Safari 3.1 is the version pushed with iTunes. There have been no updates since they began "pushing it".

Edit: There is a 3.1.1 so they have updated it. Unfortunately, it's not enough. When you start pushing a Web browser to Windows, you have to work a whole lot harder to keep the browser secure. You can't hide behind the obscurity of the Mac platform.

Researcher discovers spoofing security flaw in Safari 3.1.1
By Justin Berka | Published: April 28, 2008 - 09:09AM CT

Apple just recently released Safari 3.1.1, a (mostly) security-related update. As usual, security researchers started testing the new release fairly quickly, and have already uncovered a few new (or previously unreported) security problems in the new update. Specifically, researcher Juan Pablo Lopez Yacubian from Secunia has discovered a new URL spoofing flaw in the latest version of Safari, in addition to two crash bugs.

http://arstechnica.com/jour...