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Sony, Microsoft Both Claiming Victory in Early Console Wars

They were both released in November within days of each other, and both have launched to undeniable success, quickly selling in excess of a million units . They are the Xbox One and PlayStation 4, the two newest consoles from Microsoft and Sony, and each company is claiming victory in the early going of the newest console wars.

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ZodTheRipper950d ago

When did any of them "claim victory"? They both stated that this whole console war is a marathon, not a sprint. But unlike Microsoft, Sony can't produce enough consoles to meet the demand so it should be pretty clear who is "winning" right now.

iGAM3R-VIII950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

The funny thing is, despite the PS4 being sold out, who still sold more?

So you're right, it is a pretty clear winner, glad we are on the same terms.

Also worth telling you that although a console race is a marathon not a sprint, if two runners have a race and one of them starts of sprinting and gets ahead, then after they both run at around the same pace for who knows how long, who is ahead? Obviously the runner who had a large 1st sprint.

Slow and steady DOESN'T win the race in this scenario.

@below I agree with you also 100% if there were no gamers, Sony and MS couldn't claim anything. When it all goes down, it's the gamers that MS and Sony have to cater and some companies don't do it right (ex. EA). Gamers are mostly always the winners

JokesOnYou950d ago

Well BOTH are selling very well. Just as it should be.

Simco876950d ago

Funny the PS3 had a slow start but ended up ahead didn't they? Guess it does matter about slow and steady after all.

iGAM3R-VIII950d ago

lool idk why im getting disagrees, i both consoles have been breaking records and are neck and neck. I was just saying how juat because 1 system is down doesnt mean the other is going to murder by sales

kickerz950d ago

When are you guys gonna stop worrying about sales so much and start actually playing games. This iPhone I'm writing this on prolly sold 10 billion units, who cares

B1663r950d ago

Wrong. Sony needed to dominate, they failed. The very best you can say about PS4 sales is that they are mildly outselling the X1 because they released in more countries.

However, the PS3 did that the entire last generation, except for the first two years. Sony lost billions of dollar by only outselling the x360. That financial reality will really start to hit home this year, and Sony is in store for another couple of rounds of downsizing.

Realistically, they may have 'won' the battle of console sales, but lost the console war, as they are forced out of the business unable to make any money in it over a 10 year period.

Muerte2494950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Will people please stop trying to compare Xbox One to PS3. The only reason why PS3 started pulling ahead was Sony "FIRST" party studios started to show what the system could actually do. Let's not act as if Microsoft has even a fraction of the same first party support.

@B1663r

Microsoft has lost billion with the Xbox brand, that's why it was being considered to sell the division off.

Jvaughn661949d ago

As someone who participated in cross country,you should know that the person who sprinted out in front at the beginning of the race trying to get ahead ended up loosing because they used all their energy at the start. A smart runner learns their pace, and sticks with it till the home stretch where they can try and sprint out other runners. The truth is know one knows who's going to win the console war because of all the variables it includes.

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ThunderSpark950d ago

Only person who can claim any victory so early in this console war is me, the gamer. With these companies going at it, I am guaranteed victory as I get my hands on as many great games as I can get.

tagan8tr950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

@whathappened unless you can only afford one console. The race is not who makes the best console as it should be its who locks up the exclusives, then holds the game hostage forcing gamers to buy two things that serve the same general purpose give or take a few features.

AceBlazer13950d ago

Pretty clear its the one with higher sales numbers.Easy to meet demand when most people want the competition's console.

Btw this is launch time so whatever is produced will be sold. Since sony has higher sales wouldn't that mean they are also producing more?

Clarence950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Well seeing as the PS4 is always out of stock and you can find Xbones, than we all know who's winning right. Besides the PS4 is breaking all records while the xbone is just breaking 360 records.

The PS4 is the fastest selling console in history. That's a fact.
http://blog.us.playstation....

We all know how pr works in M$ camp.

SLUG950d ago

lets see who wins at the end of 2014

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ThatCanadianGuy514950d ago

Only one of them is breaking records tho.

DragonKnight950d ago

You're both wrong.

It's Magnavox.

Geez, do you even game?

Trekster_Gamer950d ago

Have you played ATARI today???

xHeavYx950d ago

Neither console is claiming victory, but one company's number don't add up

jackanderson1985950d ago

who's numbers aren't adding up and how/where aren't they adding up?

Unreal01950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Microsoft's numbers aren't adding up. They make out they're selling just as much as Sony's PS4, but pretty much every country/retail outlet in the world (perhaps excluding Australia) is saying that the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One, ergo, not adding up.

KingDadXVI950d ago

@Unreal01 Actually the largest console market by Country is the USA and Xbox One has sold more consoles in the USA in a shorter period of time. Being in the lead by 100,000 consoles world wide in the first week of December is hardly much of a margin when you are selling in 21 more countries than your competitor.

Both consoles are selling well and had reached the 2 Million mark world wide a couple of weeks ago. The numbers will drop off after the holidays and then pick up again once some exclusives hit the market.

DragonKnight950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

@KingDadXVI: Actually that's full of it. Sony sold 1 million consoles in a day, Microsoft needed 9 days to do that. The PS4 was out for 2 weeks when the ratio comparison was made and that's the only reason why it LOOKS like the Xbox One was selling at a faster rate, but 1 million consoles in a day pretty much trumps that. Especially given that Sony only needed 1 market to sell that many.

JokesOnYou950d ago

OK but outselling could be 10 sold vs 11 for that specific retailer, what about others who frankly feel no need to go on record about sales??? Every retailer/country in the world??? Links please???

Actually ps4 had bigger launches in regions like US and UK but again that's for completely separate launches= more stock in 2 separate launches vs X1 stock spread to 13 regions. Logic says although more sales upfront in those 2 large regions may be better for headlines the overall totals are nearly the same, that's simple math because a car manufacturer could sell cars in 1 or 100 regions but if you only have a supply of 1000 cars vs your competitor with 1000 cars at launch and you both sellout you both only sold 1000 cars.

What we do know is NPD said X1 sold more per day vs ps4 in Nov= not rumors and speculation, but confirmed.
http://m.joystiq.com/2013/1...

What we do know is:
"Xbox One beats PS4 in Australia"
http://www.mcvpacific.com/n...

DragonKnight950d ago

Jokes, are you really trying to suggest that there is a change the X1 could have outsold the PS4 based on no name retailers choosing not to divulge sales?

You're really desperate aren't you?

You just need to accept that the PS4 is doing better than the X1 right now.

LeCreuset950d ago

@JOY

"What we do know is NPD said X1 sold more per day vs ps4 in Nov= not rumors and speculation, but confirmed."

There's a reason you need to qualify your bullcrap by adding "per day." It's spin. NPD is throwing MS a bone. Because Xbox came out a week later, they are trying to create the impression that it is only because Xbox launched later that PS4 beat it in sells (A funny argument coming from the camp that boasted of having more sells with the 360 than a system that launched a whole year after it, but I digress.).

To say that Xbox sold more per day is deliberately misleading. Why? Because the PS4 sold out fast and was not available for the whole time period. After the first day, most, if not all, PS4's were sold. So what MS wants us to do is to take into consideration that Xbox was not available until the 22nd, but their argument conveniently neglects to factor in that the PS4 was not available every day from the 15th on. Yes, it launched on the 15th, but it was not available every day from the 15th on.

JokesOnYou950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Dragonknight & Lecruest it was a response to Unreal01 who said:

"Microsoft's numbers aren't adding up."

What Iam specifically pointing out is there is plenty of data/examples to suggest that X1 sales are indeed on par with ps4 sales vs his assumption based on whatever unknown sources he's referring to who has said ps4 is outselling X1. It was to demonstrate that his logic isn't sound when stating X1 sales don't add up. Nothing about my posts suggests as a whole X1 is winning in total sales or that ps4 doesn't have less supply like in Australia but again that doesn't change the fact that at least up until last count they were both essentially neck n neck, also although it seems X1 has better supply after launch ps4 has been available through many retailers off and on with quick sellouts, again though not sure about allocations also better stock on micros part is a positive. lol, the purpose of my response that X1 is selling well isn't to prove that ps4 is or is not, it's to highlight those specific links showing X1 is selling well in comparison to ps4, contrary to what Unreal claims...that's all no need to take it personal.

LeCreuset950d ago

@JOY

You could have made that point without throwing out the misleading talking point of Xbox One selling more per day.

In fact, those numbers have nothing to do with judging if a console is the fastest selling, as it is described in the link you provided. For example, if Product A launched on day 1 and completely sold through its stock of 1,000 units in 10 hours, and was not available on days 2 & 3, the average sells per day from time of availability (day 1) to day 3 would be 333.33. Now, if Product B launched on day 2 and sold through its stock of 1,000 units in 24 hours, it's average sells per day from time of availability through day 3 would be 500 units. Looking at it from each products time of availability to day 3 shows that Product A only averages 333.33 units per day sold versus 500 per day for Product B, but clearly this is impacted by Product A being unavailable after Day 1, and clearly a product which sells 1,000 units in 10 hours is faster selling than a product which takes 24 hours to move 1,000 units.

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LeCreuset950d ago

@KingDad

"Actually the largest console market by Country is the USA and Xbox One has sold more consoles in the USA in a shorter period of time."

Link please.

Bolts-N-Rays1109950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Great launches for both consoles. Now lets flip the calendar to 2014, so we can play all the great games that are coming out!

EDIT: I love that the first 3 comments all have subtle jabs at MS. How shocking on PSN4G.

solidsheep950d ago

Don't be so sensitive. There are other sites for you.

Bolts-N-Rays1109950d ago

Link me too another site that posts news articles from all gaming and entertainment sites so they are all in one place.

solidsheep950d ago

I don't need to. Just grow up a bit and stop taking videogame fans opinions so seriously.
Anyway someone needs to be the whipping boy each generation. Last generation it was the ps3, and before that it was the Gamecube, and before that it was Sega. It's just a vicious cycle that will never stop.

malokevi950d ago

How is it that you only have 3 bubbles, with an awesome comment like that? You've got the right attitude. 2014 is going to be awesome. Here, have a bubble up.

wynams950d ago

Try polygon if you want a nice MS echo chamber

Bolts-N-Rays1109950d ago

Ew, Polygon... I don't even know how Xbox fanboys go to that site.

Sci0n950d ago

misterx also has a site for the indenial and delusional xbots just google the address and you will find it. Lies on that site regarding the X1s stats are glorified and as long as you are drinking the green koolaid even though its poisoned you will be accepted.

nategrigs950d ago

I thought the first comment was a jab at sony?

ZodTheRipper950d ago

Double negatives can be confusing, huh? :P
But you should understand my comment if you have followed the news in the last few weeks.

MasterCornholio950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Making claims that N4G is being run by "teh Sony fanboys" wont get you anywhere. Stop being paranoid and just admit that at this moment the PlayStation brand is more popular than the Xbox brand. Which is why the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One.

P.S Even though the Xbox One is getting outsold by the PS4 it isnt a bad system to own. I dont own one because im not really interested in Microsoft exclusives and paying 100$ more for a camera and a weaker system doesnt fancy me at all.

LeCreuset950d ago

PSN4G? You must not have been here the other week when that pro-MS mod went on a rampage.

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TheFallenAngel950d ago

I still laugh at major nelson fastest selling comment.

JBSleek950d ago

It is a correct statement. Technically the Xbox One is the "fastest selling" console on a per week basis as the PS4 has the higher volume.

TheFallenAngel950d ago

Yeah and ps4 outsold xbones sales within 24 hours. You can't sell what you don't have.

CGI-Quality950d ago

I'm trying to understand your math. The PS4 is the fastest selling console, at launch, and has the higher tally to date. Your view doesn't make sense.

JeffGUNZ950d ago

It makes sense. It's worded that way for PR but it's fact.

First, he's talking about America. Second, he is going per amount sold TOTAL at the time he made that claim. Since the X1 was out a week AFTER and you added the total sold in America for each console, you then divide that by the amount of DAYS it was out on the market. Since the X1 was out for less time, it's numbers per day were higher. That's all that statement said.

Now, it's pretty obvious one of the factors could have been PS4 were out of stock so it was hard for them to continue to sell as much as the demand was.

This is PR folks, anyway to make a product look good. This is why boasting about sales this early into a launch is dumb. Lets start looking this time next year.

DigitalRaptor950d ago

@ JeffGunz

It's still spin, and spin (real meaning - "deception") should be criticised.

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jessupj950d ago

And people complain that the first few comments are always calling MS out on their BS...

I showed my wife who's not into gaming both headlines and she just laughed at MS's pathetic attempt to try to spin the numbers.