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Ask The Experts: Kinect vs PS4 Camera

GameSpot - Are you ready to use your voice to control the new generation of consoles? They might not listen to you. Jeff and Peter breakdown how well the Kinect and PS4 camera are able to track your movement, voice, and more. (PS4, Xbox One)

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xHeavYx  +   368d ago
Kinect: "Not reliable when there is chatting around" I can imagine what would happen on a Super Bowl (GO HAWKS) party.
They even said the "Xbox On" command worked 68% of the time.
"I'm sick of people giving it a pass"

PS4 Camera: "Works a little better but doesn't have as many commands", "more seamless and intuitive" "not as many applications"

Both: "Seem to work in small places"

Question: "Is voice and face recognition the future of entertainment?" Answer: "No, it sucks"

Pretty much my thoughts on this gimmick
Lukas_Japonicus  +   368d ago
Both cameras are gimmicks, it's just that Sony already know this and give you the OPTION to buy it or not. So according to this video the PS4 camera works better than the Kinect......you can speak more natural with the PS4 camera, you don't have to say specific phrases and it's more accurate....so much for "Kinect is rocket science stuff, PS eye can't match this tech". Pretty much the only advantage of the Kinect is the fact it has more commands.

I won't be using any of the next gen cameras. Give me a controller, console, game and TV and im good to go for the next 5+ years. Let's hope MS hurry up and realise that not everyone want's this gimmick and release a kinect-less X1 because i really don't want to have to buy one with a Kinect included.....but i guess there's always E-Bay.
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JokesOnYou  +   368d ago
Here ya go, IGN has a good vid to watch Kinect in action:
http://www.ign.com/boards/t...

Looks like Kinect works very well, and I personally love using it all the time, in combination with my controller, for many things it works better for navigating the UI, my few friends and everyone else I know with an X1 really like how kinect is integrated into the whole system even most folks on the forums generally think it's great. Its far from a gimmick as I have no doubt ALL future consoles will make voice interaction a standard part of the experience.
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iGAM3R-VIII  +   368d ago
Ill be honest you cant really compare a kinect to the camera. The kinect is by far better with its features but i think sound might be bettter on the camera. Both are gimmicky so it doesnt really mater to me tbh. I only got the camera for playroom and streams
4Sh0w  +   368d ago
Yea Jokes I agree I love Kinect, it adds alot to the next gen feel of the X1, my wife still waves and smiles everytime it greets her when she walks in the room. I wouldn't want a next, next gen console without the current kinect features, hell I want even more.
scott182  +   368d ago
I think I am going to get the camera, it is fun to play the move games with my nephews. But as far as just straight up gaming and using the console, I will stick with the controller.
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Army_of_Darkness  +   368d ago
"Kinect is awesome.... when it works..." Don't be that guy giving it a pass for a partially working product.
I like that Jeff guy, he told it how it is.
4Sh0w  +   368d ago
Yeah and it works 95% of the time. That's like saying a great game has an occasional glitch so don't give a pass.

This smells like they are trying too hard to knock it. Look at the vid Jokes posted, Kinect real world performance is very good, mostly and that's not even going into details like motion tracking, gestures, 1080p, and a huge factor how it all still works just as good in the dark while ps4 camera does not. lol but that would be a fair comparison and why would they do that. /s

I get just like a game not everybody has to like it, still it's received far more positive reviews so I think micro did a great job with Kinect. I just want to see more and more intuitive integration in the UI like scanning codes and in games like DR3.
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ShinMaster  +   367d ago
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Even Polygon had a hard time getting Kinect to work half of the time while playing DR3.
otherZinc  +   367d ago
@JokesOnYou,

Thanks to your link and for those of us that have Kinect that knows it works...These 2 guys aren't "Experts". These 2 guys are *Liars* and or friggin *Stupid*.
USA007  +   368d ago
The face recognition on Xbone works great for me, but don't have ps4 camera to compare

I've been seeing what I can say instead of 'Xbox On' that still makes the kinect turn the Xbox on. Kinda funny what you can get away with.

Also the Kinect is annoying during conversations. One time I was talking with a friend over party chat, and out of no where the Xbox thought I said the command to turn off, and when I said 'no' to cancel it, the xbox turned off anyway
iamnsuperman  +   368d ago
The PS4s isn't perfect either. Sometimes it thinks I want to say a command (the command bar pops up) but luckily it doesn't do anything else.

Generally, the voice recognition is pretty good (works really well when you want to use it) except for the major issue that comes with all voice commands and that is you feel like a massive pillock using it. I have never felt so uncomfortable and unnatural navigating a system. Voice recognition is cool in theory but silly in the real world. Voice commands are great for a mobile device when your driving (you need your eyes and hands for other things) but for a home console it isn't a normal and natural thing to do. It is actually a stupid method of navigation

The facial recognition is just standard facial recognition. Honestly, I have never really seen the appeal or a use for it. It logs me in but I can also press the X button quicker (so I do that instead)
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edonus  +   368d ago
The second i heard the voice commands for the Ps4 work better I stopped listening. They were just being stupid at first but with that part they crossed over too Ponies on some Mr. Ed crap.

The biggest problem I have with these things is they dont set the functions up in proper user context. When you use the kinect voice commands its not sans everything else.... you can use your controller and kinect seamlessly together. First thing out of the mouth of someone that doesnt have a X1 or use it is why would you need it if it works with controller then.... the answer is because its a complete working multitasking ecosystem with many layers. Its a lot easier to say snap or unsnap or watch tv or call someone or bring something up than just using the controller.

They are sick of people giving kinect a pass well I am sick of people putting strange expectations on the technology. Kinect has microphones microphones are like ears how well do your ears work in a crowded noisy room? Can you hear every single conversation and decipher every word phrase and content in that crowd? Trying to make it sound like its a problem is cheap and deceitful. It would be like saying your Iphone sucks for making calls under a jet engine.

And the the Ps4eye camera would be subject to same issue... but they gloss right over that. And the Ps4 command are extremely small when compared they are pretty much useless and really just Mr. Me Too functions.

Another thing remember when you use the kinect you are not rattling of 100 commands in a row. The kinect works great and if some one says different its them not the tech.

The expansion that kinect adds to entertainment or just interaction in general are definitely the future... look Sony just copied it, Samsung Smart tvs just copied it. This stuff started with the 1st kinect. They are sitting here talking about natural speech when they havent mastered command speech. The Ps4 doesnt recognize speech it just that they have so few commands there such small room for interpretation.

There is just too much poniness on the internet. Kinect pisses on the Ps4eye in every single conceivable way. Show me a side by side comparison of the 2 going head to head if you want to prove other wise.... not some fat guy and skinny guy sitting in a room botching the controls.

With this one Gamespot has sunk even lower

@below

Its not about being biased.. its about truth and since they arent representing the product properly they are lying thus making their truth lies. The level of integration the kinect puts in to the console definitely adds a lot and will have a learning cuve. The one guy asid he totally avoids using it until it works.... but it works now he just didnt learn the curve.... and this is suppose to be an expert. He cant even properly set up or recognize the conditions something this would be used in.

And thank god they didnt go into the gesture controls.... I have just got finished learning and they work great you but i am sure these "experts would have been like fish out of water". These half @$$ed comparison are just apples for ponies.
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xHeavYx  +   368d ago
Your comment is not biased at all, and you are right, they just made a video to piss off Kinect users instead of saying the truth, right?

@Above
Yeah, they are lying, just like every other person who has something negative to say about the Kinect
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mcstorm  +   368d ago
edonus I agree. I like how they say one is better then the other yet no video of any of them. I remember seeing a video on n4g a week or so ago where someone did a video to see how quick he could say 100 commands to the Xbox one and he only had to repeat him self on a few and a few he said wrong.

I have found a few commands have issues when I use them and most of the time it is Xbox switch. Volume up and down seem to work all the time for me no matter the volume level.

I have found when there are a few people in the room talking as well as the TV on Xbox has struggled to pick me up a few times but if I say Xbox when no one is talking it picks me up.

I'm not saying the voice is perfect on the Xbox one as it is not but it is far better than alot of people on this site make out and its a bug step up from Kinect 1.

One thing is for use that the more it is used the more feedback Microsoft get and the better it will get for our voice types.

I would love to see a side by side comparison of the ps eye and Kinect 2 voice commands though it would be interesting.
ma1asiah  +   368d ago
@ xHeavYx

Yet for those of us who actually have an X1 and swear black and blue how great the new Kinect is or every other gaming site which loves the new Kinect well hey we must all be wrong or hold some bias, as by your logic ONLY negative comments are TRUE.

Dude do you own an Xbox One have you tried it in the real world???? Outside of gaming expo's etc prior to launch

I have, and I can testify that though it isn't perfect it is a huge leap forward over the original Kinect and I mean a HUGE leap forward.

As for it being a gimmick let us just see if this is still true in a year or two.....I somehow think the Kinect 2.0 will be anything but a gimmick.

Really can't say the same of the PS EyeToy though, due to SONY deciding to market their camera as an optional extra.

But hey that is what you guys and gals liked any way i.e. Games and gaming experiences to just remain overall the same as they always have been, just with a better and more flashy coat of paint.

I personally am looking forward to what the new Kinect will bring to the gaming table once developers are let loose to be more creative with its application.
DigitalRaptor  +   368d ago
@ edonus

Why do you think they gloss over the PS4 camera? Why? Think about it for a LITTLE moment. The PS4 camera isn't one of the PS4's selling points. It's a true peripheral, and by that I mean it's something you have choice over that may enhance your experience, if you choose to buy it and tether it to your system.

The Kinect is essentially Microsoft's top focus with the Xbone. It just is. So much so that it was originally a requirement to actual use the console in any way at all, and is still force-bundled, as well as the interface being designed around the camera.

Kinect is the thing that you, personally, have been touting about the new generation, acting as though any platform that doesn't concentrate on camera-based play in any meaningful way is still a "last gen system".

Your bias is so damn obvious, I don't even know why you're pretending you're not. The damage control is so bad now that you think websites like Gamespot are making things up to destroy Microsoft's credibility. Firstly, with the original Kinect, when genuine problems arose, you explained that by saying people have been "poisoned agains the Kinect" and that "people are awkward and don't know how to play it correctly". Blame everything else, but the hardware that is lacking. Most first generation devices have problems, and the original Kinect was not immune to those, based on many, many, many accounts of people buying it, playing it and not liking it. But of course, you said "there's no problems, this is just media poisoning people against Kinect", or "the Internet is broken" or whatever stupid excuse you could come up with to pin it all on fanboys. That right there completely destroys your credibility in this argument.

Now, of course new Kinect is clearly better than the PS4 eye. Clearly. It will be much less likely to have issues, being a second iteration. But all this shows is you exploding over them having had a different experience to you.
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KingDadXVI  +   367d ago
@DigitalRaptor Well said.
walkincarpet  +   367d ago
Cant agree with you more Ed, I'm. having a ball with kinect as it adds a true next gen experience that I very much needed. Ive been gaming since the 80s so a change in gameplay is looong over due. Cant wait for dark dreams dont die......not sure why the gamespot guys have gone lame in the brain though....
tiremfej  +   367d ago
Posting anything positive about X1 will get you as far as selling ice to eskimos. Let everyone believe what they want. Who cares.what anyone else thinks? To me Kinect works great. There is a way to calibrate it so it works better...I can almost whisper and it hears me...I love it.

Who cares what any PS4 owner says or cares about? Honestly. Ignorance is bliss.
tigertom53  +   368d ago
original Kinect work better the 70 percent of the time the new one for me and my friends would say it works 98 percent of the time and way better then the sonys which i would compare it to the original Kinect.. Also the Kinect 2 videop qulaity is twice as good as Sonys..
strickers  +   367d ago
Now res matters again? :-)
tigertom53  +   367d ago
yeah video resolution is quite a difference thing over game
dsswoosh  +   368d ago
How surprising this video is..........NOT.

Kinect doesnt have any major or even minor problems.

It works.

And it works very very well.

This website is nothing more than a Pony loving website and this video goes well above and beyond proving that.

No, the PS4 camera is not as good as kinect.

Kinect works extremely well.

End of story.
BoriboyShoGUN  +   368d ago
Why are you guys so "butthurt" over a review from a couple nobodys. I have the PS4 camera and it works just fine. I dont even know any of the voice commands because I dont use them. The only thing I noticed if that if I curse in NBA2k the damn referee gives me a technical!!! So I curse less now :(
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B-radical  +   368d ago
My kinnect is working fine. Only time I really use it though is to turn it on and off aha but works flawlessly when I do.

Am keen to use it for skype though

It would of been alot better if xbox one just had an inbuilt microphone for it.
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TIER1xWOLFPACKx  +   368d ago
you can use voice commands on the ps4 without a camera you can use the headset that comes with the ps4 and use voice commands infact any pair of heaphones with a headset built in can you can use voice commands
tigertom53  +   368d ago
but it works really poorly...
kneon  +   368d ago
Actually it works quite well and is less strict than the XB1, though it does have fewer commands. But it's usually faster to just use buttons.
TIER1xWOLFPACKx  +   368d ago
Actually doesn't work poorly at all understands every word I say first try
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Trekster_Gamer  +   368d ago
My Xbox One voice commands work 98% of the time.
These so called experts are incorrect.

They sound like Sony paid them to spread there ignorant lies.
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husomc  +   367d ago
yea right, sony paid them to say that cameras on video games consoles are a gimmick.
kewlkat007  +   368d ago
What comparison....not even close from what I've been seeing. I thought Microsoft was faking it when we first saw kinect voice commands at the unveiling.

That sh1t works pretty well. It surprised me.

I been getting better at how to say things. Of course when kortana comes out as an update it can only get better as I saw with Google now and siri.
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xHeavYx  +   368d ago
Well... Sorry to burst you bubble, but the presentation at the unveiling was fake
http://me.ign.com/en/news/1...
ma1asiah  +   368d ago
xHeavYx

Skim through the comments dude and you will see so mnay users testifying that the Kinect 2.0 works and though not flawless works really well.

So regardless of their fake reveal, the new Kinect has proven to be a big surprise for most users even some skeptics in a positive sense.

But hey keep believing that just because you read or saw it on the internet then hell it must be true.

The rest of us who are actually using the device must be all BS.
xHeavYx  +   368d ago
@Ma1asiah
So, you tell me to read comments on the internet of people whose Kinect is working great, and then tell me ironically to keep believing everything I see on the internet?

It works great for some people, it doesn't work so great for others, but people with blinds think that Kinect 2 is the best thing ever and whoever says different must be getting a big check from Sony
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xHeavYx  +   368d ago
@Malokevi
I was just talking facts and quoting what's on the video,I was also questioning the guy telling me to trust the internet only when it's convenient. I actually couldn't be happier.
On the other hand, you my friend, you keep defending your precious Xbox at any chance you have, but didn't I tell you that's hard to defend something without facts? Silly you, will you ever learn?
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ma1asiah  +   367d ago
xHeavYx

Dude learn to read in fact let me quote what I actually said

"But hey (pause) keep believing that just because you read or saw it on the internet then hell it must be true."

I was being sarcastic.

Come on dude we all know, that you only see and believe what you want when it supports your side of the argument. So umm where was I stating or advising you to start believing what you read or see on the internet???

You don't offer much proof of much seriously you don't, and when you do you go as far as to supply links from other trolls from other baseless articles.... You go so far as to call them facts what a joke.

In fact you spend so much time in Xbox One articles that one has to question IF the PS4 is all that when you spend so much friggen time in here. The ratio of PS4 articles to Xbox One articles you comment on is like 20% PS4 and 80% Xbox One...talk about a closet Xbox fan.

You talk about MS fanboys and MS defence squads blah blah blah when you are the worst person to talk. SONY are awesome, never lie and love their fans, the PS4 is the best console ever created rah rah rah....check your friggen comments and anyone can see you are a friggen fanboy just a SONY fanboy.

You know what at least some of us don't give a crap what you call us, you on the other hand think you are something different when you are no different face the truth and the truth will set you free my friend.

Get a grip bro, Heavy is a good name for you dude, as your so weighed down with your own BS that you honestly believe half the rubbish you spew up on these forums.

Bubble me down, wipe me off the face of these forums I seriously don't care....As I am so happy with my Xbox One that I don't have to troll SONY or PS4 articles and spread hate and propaganda just to feel better about my choice of purchase.

So have fun dude hope all that hate and negativity doesn't eventually eat you alive you sad, sad, sad person.

Hell I'm starting to feel genuinely sorry for you, must truly suck to be you.
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SquillieDeeWilliams  +   368d ago
My Kinect works great. I use it all the time. Switching between apps , games, is almost instant. If you say the commands right it works just fine. Also its pretty cool to book-end your video clips, which leads me to my favorite XboxOne feature, "Xbox Record that". I can't get enough of it, its the best way to talk smack to your friends on Xboxlive.
timlot  +   368d ago
Unfortunately for theses "experts" the system is out in the masses now. We're no longer in the pre-release weeks where only the press had the machines and were doing terrible kinect video reviews. Millions of people have the system and can judge for themselves. This is a waste of time now.
windblowsagain  +   368d ago
This works poorly, this works great, mine works great, yours sucks, mine sucks and yours works poorly.

Look on My HTC the voice function on it works perfectly and corrects my spelling as well.

I'm sure both these camera's work fine.

But you should not be buying a console because of it.
KingDadXVI  +   367d ago
What a joke. He says it doesn't work well in his office with other people talking to their Kinects. I don't know what you would expect if you have other people with other Kinects being given commands.

Take any person and put them in a room with lots of people talking and try to have a conversation with other people talking around you.

Just watch every review these guys have done so far since they started this show and they shit on the Xbox One each time. It is pretty obvious which console they are in love with. Waste of time watching this.
ironmonkey  +   367d ago
go cry more. except it. ps4 camera isnt a selling point and it works way better. burn.
strickers  +   367d ago
Some of the best purchase justification and self delusion in these comments. :-). Most enjoyable read.
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Goku781  +   367d ago
The power of choice can not be beat.
starscream420  +   367d ago
I have both.......Kinect is hands down better. To say otherwise would mean you are retarded or a fanboy. My ps cam MIGHT compar to the 360 Kinect. The guys who compared them are payed off or stupid take your pick.
Volkama  +   367d ago
I find the Kinect voice commands work really well when my 5 year old has gone to bed. While he's awake he makes a game of copying me and the Xbox just seems to go "Wtf?"

"XBox show my stuff"
"Xbox show our stuff!"
"Xbox turn off"
"Xbox don't turn off!" "no! no!"

I also used to generally have less success with it while it was positioned in direct proximity to my centre channel speaker, which sounds fair and defensible but in reality it's probably a pretty common situation as both want to be front and centre.

Where the Kinect does score a big win in "real world use" is it's capabilities in bad lighting. I play all my proper games in the dark, the xbox still recognises me and tracks my movement perfectly.
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