Submitted by karamsoul 527d ago | rumor

Forza 5 Only Xbox One Title Using Dedicated Servers

James Black of SpawnFirst writes: "When Microsoft pitched all of the Xbox One’s features way back in October, one of the major selling points that accompanied the system was the promise of free dedicated servers and cloud processing for all Xbox One games that would have some sort of multiplayer functionality...However, with the eventual launch of the Xbox One, eagle-eyed users of NeoGaf began to notice the distinct lack of dedicated server support in a variety of games." (Forza Motorsport 5, Xbox One)

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iamnsuperman  +   527d ago
I thought COD was getting it (there was a big thing about that a few months ago)
Hatsune-Miku   527d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(9)
NatureOfLogic  +   527d ago
MS lied again. Shocked!/s Then again, MS broke Xbox sales records after saying "DRM is good, sike". Xbox fans actually defended MS DRM plans./sad
ThePope  +   527d ago
Your one bubble, doesn't defend poor grammar!
stuna1  +   527d ago

But that still doesn't dispute the "NatureOfHisLogic"!
TheFanboySlayer  +   527d ago
Well I dont think they lied...it is possible but idk it is up to the publishers I guess. But if no one is using the 300000 servers then thats a huuuuge waste -__-
brich233  +   527d ago
They lied. They even lied about 360 cod getting dedicated servers.
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dsswoosh  +   527d ago
Neogaf wrote the article.

It must be true.

shoddy  +   526d ago
I trust neogaf more than MS
Christopher  +   526d ago
Yeah, I don't think this is true at all.
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BattleTorn  +   527d ago
Battlefield sure ain't using em
KRUSSIDULL  +   527d ago
They are using EA's own but look at that not always good.
Pascalini  +   527d ago
Companies have the choice

Cod etc uses it's own servers

How is this not obvious to people in the industry?

Just delete this article and move on
mikeslemonade  +   527d ago
Samething as PS4. Companies have the choice.
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kickerz  +   527d ago
So companies have a choice to use Sonys own 300 000 servers ? Man this is news to me :S
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Evilsnuggle  +   526d ago
Well yes SONY has more than 300000 servers. More of m$ propaganda And spin. Xboiz thing that m$ invented and owns every dedicated server In the gaming world. SONY has a partnership with Rackspace to provide dedicated servers to SONY. So yes PS4 and SONY as have dedicated servers.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   527d ago
"Just delete this article and move on"

That's usually the attitude you people have when something you have been shouting from the high heavens gets proven wrong....."delete the article, nothing to see here". So many times ive seen you people say something like "XBL on X1 is superior because of dedicated servers!"...."300,00 0 servers!"....."PSN SUCKS!".

Humble pie indeed. Just the usual lies and deceit from MS.

@Cueil "if a company choses not to use the free dedicated servers Microsoft offers then that's on them..."

I agree, but MS promised their customers dedicated serves for EVERY X1 game with MP functionality....they lied.
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Cueil  +   527d ago
if a company choses not to use the free dedicated servers Microsoft offers then that's on them... EA, Activision, and 2K are jokers who use their own crappy servers
DanielGearSolid  +   527d ago
"Lying to the customer" ?

Are u kidding me?

Are you insinuating that theres a person out there playing COD that feels betrayed because he got 10 kills and 15 deaths on Activision server rather than a MS server?

Edit: Replied to wrong comment
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jackanderson1985  +   527d ago
can you provide a story that has a direct quote from MS saying that every game will have dedicated servers? i remember them saying they'll have 300k available for all games but not the actual promise that everyone will
Lukas_Japonicus  +   527d ago

As a matter of fact i can!


""Can you confirm if the free Xbox compute resources includes dedicated servers for all Xbox One games?""

"To the question, Penello answered, simply, "yes."

I don't know about you but where im from, that's called a lie.
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jackanderson1985  +   527d ago
that just says that they have the resources available... it's up to the publishers and the devs to actually take them up on the offer... can't force it on a major third party

the dedicated servers come in with the buy in for the Xbox Live Compute ( http://news.xbox.com/2013/1... ) doesn't mean they're enforcing it for every game they're just offering them with the XLC
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Karpetburnz  +   526d ago
This is ownage to the hardcore Xboners, remember when they all said "XBL will be waaaaaay better because we will have dedicated servers for EVERY game" but the reality is its up to the developers to use it, and obviously many third party devs wont be using Microsofts servers because they will have multiple systems to develop for.
Gohadouken  +   527d ago
Except that's still funny , i could swear i saw some radical xb1 fans claim they had a better experience and service , in games like cod , unlike the so called "hybrid" for the ps4 .

Hell i can even drop one name , Nukeitall .

But of course let's conveniently sweep everyone's misconception and mistakes Under the rug
Volkama  +   526d ago
I don't see any citation that confirms COD:Ghosts in not using Live's servers. Just Neogaf speculation.

I mention Ghosts because MS and Activision specifically announced that the game would use the servers, so it'd be news if that's a lie.

A couple of 2 player co-op launch titles using peer-to-peer is not so much newsworthy.
DigitalRaptor  +   527d ago
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   527d ago
But,But we have 300,000 servers!! LOL Sure Microsoft smh
DanielGearSolid  +   527d ago
The console has been out for a month... Chill out
Lukas_Japonicus  +   527d ago
It's got nothing to do with how long a console has been released, if MS says " everyone X1 game with MP functionality will have dedicated servers"....and then it turns out those games DO NOT have dedicated servers....then that's called lying to your customers. It's as simple as that.
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DanielGearSolid  +   527d ago
It has everything to do with how long the console has been out.

Here's what DICE said when asked why they didnt use the Xbox compute.

"we're not Xbox One exclusive, so we needed a solution that would work on all platforms. We're on five platforms, so we need something that's Battlefield, not Xbox One."

Exclusive games especialy multiplayer focused will use the cloud.

And a server is a server. It has no effect on the customer at all. Dont gimme that BS
BX81  +   527d ago
I agree, I'm a big xbox fan but if it comes out of your mouth it better be true. I'm taking note of all these little things. I'm getting a ps4 as well so this could weigh on my decision for future games.
rdgneoz3  +   526d ago
"And a server is a server. It has no effect on the customer at all."

Guess you've never played an MMO or MP game in general where the servers can't handle the number of players trying to get in.

As for a "server is a server," I'd rather have dedicated servers than peer to peer.
lonewolfjedi  +   527d ago
what happened micrososft? you've said all xbox one games were gonna have dedicated servers and been boasting about those so called 300,000 servers
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BattleTorn  +   527d ago
I guess I'll address the Elephant in the room then..

What is Microsoft using their "300,000 servers" for atm then?
Majin-vegeta  +   527d ago

OT:You're guess is as good as mine.
Baka-akaB  +   527d ago
Well it's PR . of course some game will use it ... but Azure's primary focus would be professionals clients , not gamers
Volkama  +   526d ago
The 300,000 servers comprise Thunderhead. It's part of Azure, but it's entirely for XBox Live.

And it potentially can be a big asset for the One. Even if Dead Rising 3 co-op doesn't use it.
Jihaad_cpt  +   526d ago
Forza 5's 1080p, the cloud!!
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kewlkat007  +   527d ago
Announcement about whether devs would choose to jump in was very late if I recall.

So wait for later games to see who takes Microsoft's offer..
Truehellfire  +   527d ago
Forza is the only one using Microsoft's dedicated servers. EA DICE use their own for Battlefield 4 because it is easier to manage since it's a multiplatform game.
Trekster_Gamer  +   527d ago
How's that working for them??
Oh yeah they released a beta game as full retail!
Truehellfire  +   527d ago
What does that have to do with their servers? That is due to EA rushing DICE to beat Call of Duty to the market.
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Niv  +   527d ago
MasterCornholio  +   527d ago
Funny I thought Major Nelson said that all Xbox One games would have dedicated servers.
christocolus  +   527d ago
Dedicated servers was announced too close to launch.i guess most devs couldnt get to coding it at the last minute. but i believe more devs will incorporate it into their games from now on. With halo5, fable legends and titanfall leading the charge...im sure more and more games will make the switch. The servers need to be ready for the impact of those 3 games.
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cell989  +   527d ago
not enough time? since May no thats BS seems like only exclusives will take advantage of this
christocolus  +   526d ago
Dude go get your facts right. Dedicated servere was announced in october for all games.the console launched in november.even at that they would need months of coding to change everything and start from scratch. Expect most xbx one games to start using it next year...its a cheap and yet more solid option available to all devs... infact from my experience playing online here are definitly more xbx one games using this....ms will make an announcement soon enough about this.
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Gabenbrah  +   527d ago
Well I tell you what, me and my European friend played For a online with zero lag, very impressed by these servers.
corvusmd  +   527d ago
Anyone that has played any game online on XB1 can tell you that this is wrong in about 2 seconds, how did this get published?
Killzoner99  +   527d ago
This is priceless.How many times will Microsoft be caught with its pants down?
assdan  +   527d ago
It's microsoft's fault. They chose to not make a promised feature easily accessible. If this is true, it wouldn't be the first time that MS has lied about the cloud. See, every time they talk about the cloud.
KillerByte23  +   527d ago
Microsoft said that it is up to the developers to use dedicated servers in their games
cell989  +   527d ago
even more obvious now that those "300k" servers were nothing but pure marketing BS of the highest level. Why wouldnt a dev want to use dedicated servers on their games you say? Because I bet MS is charging a fee for permission to use those servers, so you as an xbox fanboi paying for LIVE means nothing to MS because the still charge the publisher. Of course none of this is disclosed to the public anywhere, its just me and my crazy theories lol
Volkama  +   526d ago
I clicked agree, but only because of the last 8 words :)
TheKayle1  +   527d ago
So let me understand an user on sonyland two (neogaf) open a thread and a semiunknow website report this as a news
And clearly for n4g this is a trustful news... LOL

Meanwhile jonathan blow been joked on his twitter coz ms have 300k server for real

from the witness developer j. blow

"The Crapgamer ‏@clanMOH 13 Dic
@Jonathan_Blow Hey, remember the time you said Xbox Live would all be virtual servers? Yea..... Did you ever apologize for being wrong?

Jonathan Blow ‏@Jonathan_Blow 13 Dic
@clanMOH But if you just want an excuse to be mad at me, go ahead and believe I said whatever you think you want me to have said."

Jonathan Blow ‏@Jonathan_Blow 14 Dic
@clanMOH (By which I mean, certain news sites posting stories today about how I don't like Microsoft, etc, etc).

The Crapgamer ‏@clanMOH 14 Dic
@Jonathan_Blow Azure is not hand waving. I've seen "server hubs" and "listen servers" like what Sony has. Those "servers" really lag/suck.

2:26 PM - 14 Dic 13 · Dettagli
Jonathan Blow ‏@Jonathan_Blow 14 Dic
@clanMOH Sure, Azure is not hand-waving, but the question is how much of Azure is dedicated to Live.

Jonathan Blow ‏@Jonathan_Blow 14 Dic
@clanMOH Ostensibly Azure has other customers and stuff.
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The Crapgamer ‏@clanMOH 14 Dic
@Jonathan_Blow Well as a gamer who games online daily, MS owning their own servers is huge. Sony owns 0. Rents from Rackspace.

here we go....

300k vs 0? boh here i read zero and jonathan blow...answer noting agianst this so i suppose is true that sony still rent every server
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76erz24  +   527d ago
this is not true....
SoulSercher620  +   527d ago
Not surprised. They already said those 300000 servers aren't even all physical. Typical PR speak in the beginning only to be caught in lies in the end.
AceBlazer13  +   527d ago
didn't one of the execs say all xbone games would have ded servers? As usual the dogs lapped it up to continue believing xbl was superior to psn. 300000 servers sitting there fininishing your killer instinct matches for you.
Karpetburnz  +   526d ago
Those 300000 servers are irrelevant if developers dont use them, but you will still get raging Xbots trying to use the "dedicated serevrs" argument as ownage. all that boasting from Microsoft and their fanboys, and only 1 single game uses microsfts own servers. LMFAO.
bornsinner  +   526d ago

Activision already stated that cod ghosts will be on dedicated servers before release, they even mentioned it will there at launch too.

i have been playing ghosts on xbone & you can really tell its on dedicated servers, not had one single host migration & it is totally lag free compared to the 360/ps4 version. ps4 version suffers the same lag issues as the 360. all that hybrid crap they said on other platforms was a lie, ive seen host migrations all sorts of one shot deaths cod suffers from on p2p.

i feel bad for anyone playing cod on p2p because it's simply terrible, dedicated servers is the future for online gaming.

i can't believe that killzone is p2p on the ps4! especially now that you are paying for online you'd expect dedicated servers on a first platform game.

did you even research other games like killer instinct, ryse, dr3?? pretty sure they are all dedicated not seen a host migration of any kind??? or lag for that matter

this is really bad journalism probably been voted up by sony fanboys... well that's n4g in a nutshell for ya.
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ExtraContinue  +   526d ago
At the minute, Forza is the only game to use Microsoft's Dedicated Servers.

Activision uses their own farm of hybrid servers, while all other XBONE games use a variety of other techniques.
TheKayle1  +   526d ago
this website have no idea of what they r talking about...as the user on neagaf have no idea of what him is talking about

everyone know that sony rent their server
everyone know that ms have azure and is made by 300k physical server

n4g or neogaf can spin it as they wont.....psn still will work with the "host" method...and this put the ps4 as the same lvl of the ps3..this mean the last or worst choice if u love SERIOUS multiplayer gaming
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Karpetburnz  +   526d ago
The Xbone may be capable of dedicated servers for all games, but thats irrelevant cause no devs are using their servers, it seems that only Xbone exclusives will have dedicated servers, not EVERY game like you fanboys tried to make out.
Johnsonparts23  +   526d ago
KNWS  +   526d ago
Infinity ward claimed servers will be for all platforms. So its likely Infinity ward lied than Microsoft.

Microsoft has never claimed they denied Infinity Ward use of the dedicated servers. So the blame should be directed at Infinity ward.


Microsoft only said multiplayer games on there platform will be using dedicated servers, but its up to the developer to use them.

EA for the most part is still using P2P or using privately owned dedicated servers.
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captain_slow82  +   526d ago
dedicated servers vs well dedicated servers has it really come to this lol

them straws must be running out eh lol

but MS have the best servers over every other company out there rite? lol

anyone wanna bet if one console has dedicated servers the other will be using peer to peer? lol

nah didnt think so its MS have the better servers than all looooool
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