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Sony PS4 Performs Worse Than PS3 As A Blu-ray & DVD Player - HDTVTEST

The PS4′s lack of deinterlacing prowess is a much bigger problem in the standard definition realm, where there’s much more interlaced content, and where every last drop of available resolution is precious. (PS4)

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BALLBAGS  +   783d ago | Well said
what a sensationalist headline..

the article praises the ps4 in its playback and recordable bluray playback, and it's playback at 1080p, praised it over the Xbox ones bluray playback and praised the look and construction of the ps4 itself

the only problem is its 1080i playback, and this is all the submitter focused on for the headline?

edit: I am disappointed in the pal dvd playback though wonder if it's a software or hardware related problem?
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MidnytRain  +   783d ago
I don't know if we're looking at the same thing, but that's the title of the article at the website.
mikeslemonade  +   783d ago
It's about some 1080i thing. Well it doesn't matter because it's a video game system first and games are not 1080i native. And also the system $399.99. Pretty sure the system wouldn't have been a success like this if it was $449.99.
ShinMaster  +   783d ago
It's about interlaced videos.

"If you’re using the device to play 24p movies on Blu-ray (which admittedly will be most people’s usage as far as that format is concerned), it’s all good news."
MazzingerZ  +   783d ago
PS3 was the BR trojan horse, BR & Dvd player is just another feature on PS4
vigilante_man  +   783d ago
I 100% agree!

I love the PS4. It is way faster at doing everything and they way it can go instantly back to the previous task is great. It is such a step up in terms of quality and speed. It is also very quiet.

But, but the worst thing is Bluray playback. On the PS3 I just pop in the Bluray movie and away it goes. Some films are full screen and some use a small envelope. But all play natively.

The PS4 seems to not play natively but rather uses software that goes into GUI mode before hand. The playback is awful. It has reduced my screen size on all Blurays I have tried. The ones that played full screen now have an envelope and the ones with an envelope are even smaller now.

It is awful. I still use PS3 for Bluray playback at the moment. I have many games still to play on the PS3 and do not mind using it for Bluray and CDs/mp3s. I just expected the Bluray playback to be as good as PS3 - but it is not!

Still love the PS4 - hope this gets sorted with the next update...
princejb134  +   782d ago

i don't want to call you a lier or anything but my blu ray playback has been the same as ps3
the only thing i hated was that you need internet for whatever reason the first time
but after that i played ff7 advent children flawlessly with no problems at all
Godmars290  +   783d ago
Think the point isn't that it performs better than the XB1, but worse than the PS3 which it really shouldn't.

I mean, Criterion have given their seal of approval on the PS2 and PS3 both. As someone who bought those systems in part because of movie playback, I would hate seeing the PS4 not getting similar.
PudgeySan  +   783d ago
Why shouldn't it? More development time. Just think.. The PS3 is also better than the One in this area as well and I am assuming it's mostly because of the Cell design. Cell was intended more for mathematical equations and Video which Sony also thought would be good for gaming which later was found out to be difficult. Ken Kutaragi said this along time ago about cell and it's video processing capability's. It's amazing to see the PS3 out perform Next Gen in something - I say.. Good on them :)
Ju  +   783d ago
The Cell might well be the reason the PS4 is lacking in that respect. Sony's code base is most likely all optimized for the SPUs which are quite amazing in delivering image enhancement through software. And yet this is hard to port to the PS4. The CPU is probably not fast enough for such a task and GPU support (which could do all the filtering) is/was (?) not ready yet. Those algorithms need vector power for which the Jaguars aren't really designed for (or it's not properly SSE optimized yet - SPUs beat it by a mile there). I hope it'll get ported eventually.

Sony released the PS4 as a gaming device first and foremost, I think. Rest might as well show up when there's time.
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PudgeySan  +   783d ago
@ju The PS4 uses OpenBSD which is pretty much unix and is better suited for X86 Archetype and especially AMD architecture. It doesn't support Power Pc and is a rather modified version of OpenBSD with added PlayStation repository. The Cell used FreeBSD which supports Power Pc and x86 but isn't as strong in the x86 field so the choice to switch to another operating system that is geared more towards Amd's processors was a smart move on there part. The PS4 will hit it's stride way faster then the PS3 did. Excited :)

My guess is, It's more so just new code that needs to be optimized. In a year the story will change I am guessing.
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Ju  +   783d ago
PS3 and PS4 run a FreeBSD kernel (different versions) - this has nothing to do with x86 or PPC. What might have to do with is, that the CELL (especially the SPU part) is extremely well suited to do tasks like this: that is real time stream processing. Something which is a little bit of a problem with a low power Jaguar. PS4 could do it, but would probably require GPU supported code to reach the same quality level. But yes, eventually, this will get optimized, I suspect.
GameSpawn  +   783d ago
My only disappointment is the lack of a good official remote.

Most of this can be fixed in software updates and Sony did say they were focused on games first and everything else would follow. For the most part this was kind of the same case with the PS3, although with more emphasis on BluRay playback as the system was the BluRay association's trojan horse into the living room -- the point I'm making is there were a lot of features PS3 owners take for granted that never really existed when it launched -- the same will probably be for the PS4.
Neonridr  +   783d ago
fortunately for me I have a Sony TV, Sony Home Theatre System and the PS4. So my remote for my TV can control the menus for the PS4. I can also control video content as well, which is great too.
GameSpawn  +   783d ago
I can do something similar with my Samsung TV and receiver, but the HDMI CEC control isn't as smooth as the Bluetooth remote I use with my PS3. The added bonus of no need for line of sight is nice too -- I can control my TV & receiver via an iOS app but there is lag because it goes over the wireless network instead of a dedicated connection like the Blueooth PS3 remote.
rainslacker  +   783d ago
If you happen to have an HDMI-CEC supported TV or receiver you could set them up to control the PS3 media/UI features. It works pretty well for me. I was using the harmony remote from logitec, but just got a new receiver and haven't set it up. The receiver remote and TV remote control the app fine though.

Has anyone tried to use the PS3 blu-ray remote on the PS4 yet? I have one, but haven't needed it in a while for above stated reasons.

Edit: Gotta learn to refresh the comments before responding. Saw you already addressed all that.:)
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GameSpawn  +   783d ago

Yeah. HDMI CEC works on both, but it seems to have a little lag to it which is why I don't use it beyond turning on all devices at once.

I have successfully synced the PS3 Blueooth remote with my PS4, but none of the input works. Sony doesn't have the PS4 setup to recognize the PS3 Bluetooth remote fully (like an absence of drivers).
BaconBits  +   783d ago
I just use my Galaxy S4 as a remote. I know there is a android app and probably an ios one too.
Nalaboy  +   782d ago
The headline is " This is for the players " and i bought the 'player pack' so emphasis is obviously on gaming . I have faith that the Ps4 will overcome playback issues, you just have to as said above checkout all the patch notes for the PS3 to see whats added when. There has already been two system updates so it's been supported.
rainslacker  +   782d ago
It's good to know that it could be synced. The PS3 Blu-Ray remote was actually quite good, and while I don't use it anymore it'd be nice to have it available. I've been using my TV remote, which then passes the signal along through my receiver, and it seems to be ok. I'll set up my harmony remote for the new receiver, as well as the receiver itself to handle all that stuff when I have the time.

Otherwise, I'm sure some official remote will become available eventually. Sony would certainly want the money from the peripheral sale.
LKHGFDSA  +   783d ago
Why would anyone use 1080i over HDMI? They'd have to have a fairly old obscure TV.
Ju  +   783d ago
Read the article. It's basically the lack of 1080i support. The PS4 always converts 1080i to p - no matter what output format. And doesn't do a too great job at it. It's about content on disk which is "i" (interlaced) not your TV resolution. It's not really a big problem, as mentioned in the article. Most content isn't 1080i anyhow.
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wsoutlaw87  +   783d ago
ya it has to do the the content not the tv but youre going to have a hard time finding a bluray disc that is native 1080i so it really isnt a big deal.
Prime157  +   783d ago
This was where I became confused as I thought hdmi was a progressive scan vs interlaced (1080p vs 1080I).

That being said in addition to the hdmi-only console... it really just confuses me.. don't get me wrong, certain media will only be displayed interlaced, but will we notice the difference of this 1080I vs a different 1080I? Or, more specifically, 1080p vs 1080I?
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H0TSHELLZ  +   782d ago
I got one in 2005 during the big HD push in tv's and didnt know (1080i vs 1080p) any better till i got my LCD Samsung.

It's also a Big and Heavy box
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Rockstar  +   783d ago
I find the lack of 3d blu-ray playback on PS4 disturbing. I hope it gets added soon otherwise I may have to put my PS3 back where it was.
hellvaguy  +   783d ago
Agreed sad face for ps4 and x1 not supporting 3d.
wsoutlaw87  +   783d ago
ya i agree but im sure it will be added
SnakeCQC  +   783d ago
It probably can be easily added with fw but nobody likes 3d it sucks
Tapewurm  +   783d ago
I loved playing Gran Turismo, Motorstorm Apocalypse, Shadow of the Colossus, Socom 4, Killzone 3, Resistance 3, Uncharted 3, The Fight Lights Out, and so many other titles in 3D... I wish Sony would push this feature with the PS4.....they already have the install numbers.....that coupled with the fact that 3D TVs are a lot cheaper now could give a huge push to the medium.... ahhh Motorstorm Apocalypse in 3D...drool..... it is still amazing looking with the morphing tracks.
boing1  +   783d ago
I really hope they're planning media centric update somewhere down the line. At least to a level of PS3's media support. At least.
JodyCones  +   783d ago
They actually commented on Sony's PS4 blu ray saying it has an edge in picture over the xbox one's blu ray. But I don't mean this in a rude way at all- the article says PS4's blue ray DOES display 1080p, just that if you were playing 1080i content there was a small flickering problem that was practically unoticable. All blu rays I know are in 1080p, and I bet this could even be fixed in a patch.
ELpork  +   783d ago
How long have you been on this site? Everything is a sensationalist headline.
feedurhabit  +   783d ago
Give it time. The PS3 probably performs better because it has years worth of firmware updates behind it
Azuske  +   783d ago
It's made for games. They didn't focus on making anything else of the quality as the gaming aspect.
TAURUS-555  +   782d ago
couldnt agree more. the PS4 is focused on games.

if ppl want childish things like kinect then they should move on to the xbone.

the PS4 is for hardcore gamers.
Nalaboy  +   782d ago
Yet !
TAURUS-555  +   782d ago
we bought the PS4 to play PS4 this isnt an issue at all
boing1  +   782d ago
It is an issue. You would expect to have at least the same level of features in the next product from the same line. Imagine Apple to start downgrading the iPhone with each iteration.
frostypants  +   782d ago
@boing1, Apple did do that. It's called the iPhone 5C.
boing1  +   782d ago
C'mon dude, 5c is a new line of cheaper iPhones. Different thing. There is no PS4c. Besides, what features they've removed from 5C? They just downgraded the hardware.
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frostypants  +   782d ago
Who the f*ck watches stuff in 1080i? What a stupid headline.
Mikey32230  +   783d ago
Well in general the PS4 has less features than the PS3.

If sony would of kept all the PS3 features and built ontop of it what the PS4 has today

I would be a 100% Satisfied customer
Mikey32230  +   783d ago
@ All the disagrees. sorry, you must rather have a more stripped down console with LESS features for no apparent reason.

You want a plain console that does nothing but play games, that although has well beyond the capacity and potential to have multiple capabilities.

you might be fine with a console that plays only games... but what is wrong with one that does both? You dont have to use anything else? but why are you against it, it doesnt affect you what so ever?
-Foxtrot  +   783d ago
Ok...list ALL the missing features

Go...if they were actually there you would of stated them straight away in your second comment to back yourself up against the disagrees
Godmars290  +   783d ago
Would think no MP4 support would be enough. Then there's no media server support or external HDD, which really is only to play MP4, avi and like files.

If Sony had only announced media file support including MKV files, that wold have been a mega-ton win for many.
yezz  +   783d ago
editttt: Look what's new though.. It's designed to be a gaming console. Media support will probably come after by updates
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The Great Melon  +   783d ago

MKV Enough said.

I remember back when I was looking for a phone two years ago that I found out that the Galaxy S II actually supported MKVs out of the box. Needless to say, that really struck chord in me. Out of all the missing features MKV support, media server connectivity, and backwards compatibility are my most desired. It frustrates me to no end that most tech equipment outside of pcs are quite stupid despite number of "SMART" stickers on the retail box.
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yezz  +   783d ago

I kind of agree that the console should have all those media features already but then again if you own a ps4 you probably (should)own a modern tv and nowadays they pretty much all support what you're asking for.. So you can do all that stuff without the ps4.
KimoNoir  +   783d ago
As a pc gamer, if i had to choose between ps4 and xbox, id go simply w the ps4 because resolution makes games look better when increased. Unless youre blind, 1080p cod looks far better than 720p. I certainly enjoy BF4 in 1080p on my pc but unfortunately the ps4 can only do 1600x900 whereas the Xbox can only do 1280x720. Obviously im gonna pick the ps4.

And so i did as a 360 convert.
I have no reason to buy the one except for titanfall...
hulk_bash1987  +   783d ago
But since you are a PC gamer and Titan Fall is coming out on the PC you really have no reason to get a One, technically.
Godmars290  +   783d ago
As far as know only a few TVs play personal media files and those are both overly large and expensive.

Again, Sony would have scored major points in offering full on media support like they did with the PS3. If fact its become a surprise that the PS4 has less features in that regard.
Neonridr  +   783d ago
Sony are whores when it comes to supporting MKV file formats. My new Bravia LED TV doesn't support it, the PS4 doesn't support it, but ironically enough my Sony Bluray home theatre system does support MKV files. I use a program called Serviio to act as a DLNA server and I stream movies from my PC to my TV via the home theatre system. MKV files supported.

But the lack of DLNA support, and file format support (MP3, MP4, MKV, etc) kind of sucks considering this device is supposed to be next gen and all. :P
zero_gamer  +   783d ago
Sony is probably saving on the early development costs and using that money toward games or gaming-related features, as they figure the features can be added later with firmware updates.

PS3 and PSN were peanuts at the earlier years but more features were added throughout the later years like Trophies, PS1 and PS2 classics, dynamic themes, and a whole laundry list of other features I simply can't bother to list.

I remember when everyone trashed the Xbox One for having TV and sports, Sony delivered an all-games console and people still complain. Chances are you already have a few devices laying around in your house that can play consumer multimedia perfectly fine, but if not that's your own problem.
BitbyDeath  +   783d ago
The PS4 OS was built from the ground up. It wasn't stripped of features as those features had never existed in the first place.

Likely these are missing due to not having enough time.

Time for paperwork/licensing, time for implementing and time for testing.
wsoutlaw87  +   783d ago
why do some people act like the os could just be copied and pasted to the ps4. I dont get people saying they removed features or "stipped down". They had to create a new os which can do so much more in games than the xmb. They will add to it just wait. Look at the ps3 when it lauched, the os couldnt even be used in-game.
yezz  +   783d ago

What? Every tv that I see in store has media playback and external hard drive support.. My shitty Philips tv(40inch) is already over 2 years old and it has those. Identical tv now would probably cost something like 499$, 32 inch even less so not that expensive in my opinion..

And even if that hard drive stuff doesn't work I can stream media from my computer to the tv via playstation media server that makes everything playable..
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dboyman  +   782d ago
@Godmars290 @The Great Melon

But there is something your forgetting,MKV is the choice format for Piracy (torrent movies)of movies in Sony's eyes, so you will never see MKV support
hulk_bash1987  +   783d ago
I'd take Remote Play and unified streaming and sharing capabilities over MP3 and DLNA support any day, because I was never really using them anyways. But I do understand the frustration for people who were. The only thing I really want them to work on is external storage support.
Ju  +   783d ago
Not sure if it really matters. You say "for people who were using those features"...while I think those features should be there eventually, what actually happened to the(ir) PS3s? Did everybody just throw those out? Mine still works, and great, none the less. Nothing wrong with playing BDs there, or whatever other movies. Just switch the channel. PS3 was - and still is great at that. Sure, a bit inconvenient, but, well, not that bad. And for the "people who weren't"...what's there to complain to begin with? Those haven't had that in the first place, no?
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hulk_bash1987  +   783d ago
They might have traded in their PS3 to upgrade to a PS4 maybe? I agree with you to an extent but also see the point made from the other side of the argument.
Heisenburger  +   783d ago
I disagreed because you said "would of" instead of "would HAVE".
Also, I disagree.
badz149  +   783d ago
I'm not an apologist for the shortcoming of the PS4 but didn't the PS3 started pretty empty handed too as far as media support was concerned? Updates upon updates later, then the PS3 was able to be where it's at now.

The console is just merely a month old on the market and people are already trying hard to downplay it for features which can easily be added via FW updates, not permanent hardware limitation like underpowered GPU or inferior RAM or crappy tablet battery life etc. (Oops...shot fired?)
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punisher99  +   783d ago

" PS3 started pretty empty handed too as far as media support was concerned?"

Yes it did. But even at launch the PS3 could read the bare minimal formats MP3 and mp4 and even a few photo formats, and so did the PS vita. So what happened with the PS4? Why cant it read anything? And when has Sony ever not focused on games?? Them focusing on the gaming aspect for the PS4 is no excuse, because they've always done that.
badz149  +   783d ago
I did mention I'm not an apologist, right? I'm not gonna make excuses too. I too demand for at least the PS4 to be as good as the PS3 as a media center but as it stands now, it certainly isn't there yet but I think I'm willing to waiy for it to be fixed or added in later. It's not like I've already thrown my PS3 away. The PS3 still stands as the best multimedia device on the market now and hopefully the PS4 will catch up sooner rather than later.

And least Sony acknowledged the issues with the PS4 media capabilities and connectivities and promised to patch them in the upcoming updates. It's not like Kaz or Yosp come in and tell people to get the PS3 instead, right?

Can you imagine the backlash if they say "for multimedia, we have this device called the PS3 which can play all your movies and music"

(Oops...shot fired, again??)
frostypants  +   782d ago
And you'd have to pay $500 or $600 for it. Then you'd probably complain about that.
Mr Blings  +   783d ago
I attempted to watch my first bluray this past weekend. It was the lack of audio options that had me baffled. I was watching Lord of the Rings: The fellowship of the ring.

My setup has my ps4 and ps3 running via hdmi to a hdmi switcher which then has a digital optical cable running to my receiver. My receiver has no hdmi options.

All I could get sound wise from the movie was pro-logic II or no sound at all. If under options I had dolby digital selected it would go to pro logic II (title screen would play in dolby digital but once movie starts bumps down. If I tried setting to DTS I would get nothing/no sound.

I suppose there has to be a simple fix I have not yet found but got frustrated and decided to watch on my ps3. No issues as usual with the ps3 went right into DTS on its own with no issues as I have dolby digital and DTS selected as usable audio options on ps3.

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? games run fine in dolby digital. can't think of a game that runs only in DTS like some movies.
Jsoc  +   783d ago
I had the same problem , when the movie starts press the option button , there you will scroll to the settings . When that opens you will see the audio format .and u can change it there put it on Bitstrem(Direct) ... Hope this helps you out....
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Mr Blings  +   782d ago
I'll give it a try! Thanks for the help
richierich  +   783d ago
I have noticed that the image quality on PS4 and XB1 is a lot worse for bluray movies than the PS3 I was kind of stunned when I watched Wrath Of The Titans it looks awful especially with all of the film grain
richierich  +   783d ago
I don't know why I got disagrees Im just being honest
yarbie1000  +   783d ago
Truth is treason in the empire of fanboys
Shakengandulf  +   783d ago
Having the exact same movie and watched that on both ps3/4.. I cant say i agree, screen was very crisp, didn't notice any graining.

Few things i'd suggest checking.
*Tv sharpness should be set to 0 or 1 at the most, sharpness is a gimmick and shouldn't be used. Double check what your 0 value is for your tv though, for some tv,s, its halfway up the slider for others its all the way left (0).
*tv is full pixel, 1:1.
*don't use the tv's advanced image settings section, tvs don't need these to look the way they were intended and add nothing, the only settings you need to use are contrast, colour, brightness, back light and maybe motion flow for movies. (MF should be off for games)
*switch any noise cancelling off, just more gimmicks.

But i'm sure you know most of this anyway, but just incase.
moparful99  +   783d ago
I watched the Lord of the Ring extended edition blu rays jist this week and they looked fantastic to me and since my tv is only a few feet from my bed I route audio through my turtle beaches and it sounds fantastic... I honestly dont know what all these issues people are experiencong are..
MidnytRain  +   783d ago
It wouldn't surprise me for a company to a cut a corner or two when implementing extra features to keep their product cheap.
The_KELRaTH  +   783d ago
I suspect in this case it's more about marketing. Sony would ideally want you to buy a Ps4 for games and buy a dedicated blu-ray player for movies as they manufacture both.
Adolph Fitler  +   783d ago
Solution: Watch Blu Rays on your independent Blu Ray player...PS2 & PS3 lasers cop a hiding from movie playback, that is why the lasers end up clapping out, as everything gets worked harder in the disks drive, the disks spin faster so the motor wears quicker, etc, etc. If you have a PS4, best chances are it's hooked up to a surround sound system with an independent blu ray machine....the things are dirt cheap now, anyhow. I know I will be watching my copy of Predator 3D on my Samsung Blu Ray player after Christmas.. Can't wait, it came with Predator masks, that are life size, you take the steel mask off, & underneath is "one ugly mother^cker".

But seriously who even gives a toss about blu ray movie capabilities in a console nowadays, that was last gens flavor of the gen.
stillcharlie  +   783d ago
I personally care about the quality of movie playback. Why would I own a separate bluray player when I have a console sitting directly next to it that promotes such a feature? Since I owned a ps3, I've never had to buy one and now that I'm "upgrading" to the ps4, why should I have to settle for less than what I'm used to?
LOL_WUT  +   783d ago
I'm going to give it a try right now i'm also curious to know what features they kept out ;)
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testerg35  +   783d ago
I think both consoles were just rushed out to get an early release.
Godmars290  +   783d ago
No. They were put out with online as their main focus. Sony wanting people to rely on their music streaming service instead of their own MP3 collections for instance. Which is why we're waiting on media file support.
Ju  +   783d ago
I wouldn't say it was rushed. It provides a vast majority of the features and added some more (all online/sharing stuff) with being on a tight deadline and focusing on the core market, the gamers, first. I think timing was crucial. Releasing later - and missing the holiday business - while this thing is basically done just to "get 1080i playback in" would have been financial suicide.
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IIZANGETSUII  +   783d ago
I just wanna play 3D blu ray movies, whens that coming? I just bought a 3D TV and i want my PS4 to play 3D content as soon as posible
MidnytRain  +   783d ago
You can buy a 3D Blu Ray player from LG for 69 bucks if you're desperate.
IIZANGETSUII  +   783d ago
Oh that would be sweet but im in Mexico :/
Armadilo21  +   783d ago
can't they just update with a patch later
one2thr  +   783d ago
yeah they can for example: the ps3 was the only bluray player in the ENTIRE electronics that change system functionality with a system update, and now it can play 3D movies.
amnalehu  +   783d ago
The PS4 performs better than the PS3 as gaming console.
punisher99  +   783d ago

lol It better, Or this would be a whole different conversation
The_KELRaTH  +   783d ago
Though I'm playing GT6 with my own music tracks - not possible on PS4.
amnalehu  +   783d ago
Well since GT6 is not a PS4 of course that not possible. You also can't play Uncharted or Last of US on the PS4.
The_KELRaTH  +   782d ago
And even if it were you still couldn't play your own custom music tracks within the game.
Grimhammer00  +   783d ago
I'm 100% certain dlna was cut due to piracy.
But I hope Sony realizes we buy our media from iTunes and other sources.
nerdman67  +   783d ago
My ps4 just goes to a black screen when I put Blu Ray movies into it. It is really bothering me. Anyone have a fix for that or do I need to send it in?
James Vanderbeek  +   783d ago
i dont have any issues watching blu ray movies on my ps4.
LOL_WUT  +   783d ago
The only thing missing is when a disc was inserted an icon related to movie would show up with the title. Other than that everything is there I did notice some grain which is a little suspicious ;)
LKHGFDSA  +   783d ago
That's shit, I guess I'll keep my PS3 connected and my Dualshock 3 present for the next few years.
CuddlyREDRUM  +   783d ago
I have noticed the PS3 plays the music I own a lot better. It can also stream/copy .mp4's and such.
MikeGdaGod  +   783d ago
thing is...i'm not the too concerned about the lack of media features....yet...

i'm fairly confident there will be an update soon bring PS4 on par with PS3 as far as bluray playback.

what i am more concerned with is all the new features i'm hoping for
BobBelcher  +   783d ago
... The damn consoles just came out and we're expecting them to behave as if they've been out for the last 8 years.
annus  +   783d ago
And why shouldn't it? DVD have been out around for ~20 years. I swear you people would defend Sony even if something like bluetooth didn't work correctly.

"Bluetooth has only been out for just over a decade, this stuff takes time to 'optimise'. Just use the cord it's fine."
BobBelcher  +   783d ago
Not just the PS4. The X1 as well... People come at these consoles complaining that they're lacking in some perspective or another and I don't get it. The Xbox 360 or the PS3 wasn't even half the console that it's become in their twilight years. Sony and MS focused on particular aspects more than they did others. They had a thesis for these consoles and they prioritized the console's creation based on their thesis. In time, both consoles will balance out like the Xbox 360 and the PS3 did.
saint_seya  +   783d ago
He said consoles, and u said sony, so you are the only biased one here, stop trolling, or use reading comprehension..
annus  +   783d ago
How typical, I misread an s and suddenly I'm trolling Sony because I give some negative criticism.

Let me rephrase for you, BOTH (and any new console) should have OLD features. Don't compare saying that they added NEW features and became better. The PS2 didn't have in-game xmb, trophies, and all that other stuff, they were NEW features.

These aren't new features, they aren't hard features, they aren't expensive features. It's like buying a brand new car only to find out it doesn't have aircon, then defending it.

You fanboys need to understand that you can enjoy a console, and at the same time realise its faults.
mochachino  +   783d ago
All I care about is 1080p blue ray playback so the fact that ps4 is the best blue ray 1080p player makes me happy.

Haven't watched a DVD since '09

I will admit that my ps3 overall has way more media features and apps than my nascent ps4
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OpenGL  +   782d ago
Is it really the best 1080p Blu-ray player though? PS3 supports 1080p 3D Blu-ray, while the PS4 currently does not.
Soldierone  +   783d ago
I put in a DVD last night, and for some reason my PS4 was struggling to play it. It froze during the previews, then took a while to load the home menu. Once it got going though it was fine, and the sound was fine.

Blu-ray though it seems to be fine. Loads them up fast with no issues.
Dagobert  +   783d ago
Have they enabled media playback features like the PS3 for the PS4 yet?
Flames76  +   783d ago
Yea the PS3 blu ray player was horrible and so is the PS4.Good news is the blu ray player is great on the Xbox One.
saint_seya  +   783d ago
Your blind fanboy glasses are in 3d?
TIER1xWOLFPACKx  +   783d ago
Did you read the article they say the ps4 bluray playback etc is better than the Xbox ones
Nail13  +   782d ago now Blu-rays matter to Xbox fans.. and upscaled graphics with low frame rates don't.

No software update is going to fix the Xbox's lower graphics in cross-platform games.
daboosa  +   783d ago
I brought a games console!
bjmartynhak  +   783d ago
Do did I.

Actually, I never put a film Blu-ray on my PS3. Netflix was always on PC, mp3 was always on PC (and never gaming at the same time)... I can't understand the excitement for the media features to be honest.
Dagobert  +   782d ago
Well not everyone uses it for gaming only. On my PS3 I use it to play games, watch movies or even music. It's a great media center.
stragomccloud  +   783d ago
Obviously it'll be fixed with updates.
ShinnokDrako  +   783d ago
They'll fix that soon, tho the title is a bit misleading.
g-nome  +   783d ago
If you stick a dvd in a ps4 I hope it throws it back at you so fast it takes your leg out in the process.
BobBelcher  +   783d ago
why? You're telling me you've never purchased a DVD before the PS3 was created?
chobit_A5HL3Y  +   783d ago
he said ps4...
BTBuck1  +   783d ago
give it time folks, bitching is good too... because they actually listen most of the time. PS3 wasn't what it is today on day 1 either, make your voice heard... they're listening!
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   783d ago

I copped two blurays for $100 together last Christmas with Netflix and. I'm set for physical media, except for my next-gen gaming console. DVD's will eventually be ripped to my NAS anyhow.
Totoro17  +   783d ago
Is anybody else having issues playing Blu Rays on their PS4's? I tried putting on Game of Thrones and it would spit something with an error message :(
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