NowGamer: "Like many of you I’ve been playing with the PS4 quite a lot over the past couple of weeks. It’s undoubtedly a brilliant console. Well done, Sony, well done. But there is concern."
Watch it indeed. We don't want the PS4 going the way of the Xbox 360 when it comes to ads on the dashboard.
This method isn't that intrusive (which are the worst type of ads). Though we do need to be careful. As long as it stays there and we don't get video ads with noise things should be fine (though I would rather they advertise PSN/Sony content rather than third party stuff)
If you are saying only video ads are intrusive, that is music to Sony's ears. They need to chill out with the ads in PS Store, and stop putting ads for PS Plus in that section when I already paid for it.
@RussellGorall That was merely and example. Pop up ads/pre video content ads (plus other types) are intrusive. But banner ads... (something out of the way) are not really intrusive. I do agree with you that we shouldn't get them as we pay for the service. However, I am not going to have a fit over a small picture advert on the what's new section (which isn't the home page of the PS4s xmb) or a banner/picture on the store (along as it doesn't get in the way of me using the service).
We might say these are not intrusive, but all of these "non-intrusive" ads slowly add up to being generally intrusive and diluting of the experiences for which you are paying, and they usually try to ween people in to ads being bigger and bigger parts of those experiences. After paying $400 for a device, $60 for games and probably $60 for PS+ each year, paid ads have NO place outside of sections where they are specifically requested.
Funny you should mention that, I was sent this article about the evolution of the 360 dashboard. It's quite shocking how it evolved over time http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
to me there's a difference between advertising what's gone up on PSN and.. a car commercial. The PSN ads have been informative to me in the past. Same on 360. As long as it pertains to something that deals with my console. It's the car ads and military ads and things like that, that aren't welcome to me.
Would be good if there was some sensor that could be used along with other metrics to determine what adverts are interesting to you, so they can better target them and increase the chances that the products advertised are things you'd want to see.
On the Xbox One that's called Kinect spying and using biometric data and your reactions to tailor ads to you. It isn't welcome.
@DragonKnight But is it spying if they tell you outright that it is watching, always?
@Darrius Cole: They didn't say it's watching all the time, they said it's listening all the time. But, allegedly, you can opt in to have it watch and collect biometric data. That wouldn't be spying in the strictest sense, but it's too early in the morning for me to think of the word that represents what it actually is. Either way, it's wrong. Also, TED proved why tailored search results and ads are wrong anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I love the way they spend all this money gathering information about their customers (this is anyone including google, MS etc) and their viewing habits, and then they just ignore their findings and chuck any old s*** at you anyway. Also, when I go round looking for something to buy... once the ads start popping up for it, usally I've already got it, so don't need the advertising by that stage!
@Ravinash some of the recommendations are... tenuous. Watch Pink Panther the Movie now! (Recommended because you watched Terminator). ^^Genuine example that kept coming up on my 360 dashboard.
@ravinash...the reason that random junk in thrown at you, although the metadata should indicate otherwise, is that it's really not used for those particular companies. They benefit much more by selling that metadata to ad firms who then place it in clients hands...who then decide that YOU are THEIR target market...regardless of if you are or aren't...cuz, you know...MONEY!?!?
What Curtis92 said:
Also its in the Whats New section. If ads were listed on the dynamic menu, or popped up and made you have to manually close them I'd understand. But these promotions are so easy to ignore... I don't see it as an issue at all
It isn't an issue for you, but it is an issue for a lot of people.
Ads or promos for things that are available on the psn are not really ads to me. Its just part of the psn. Telling me about a game on sale, a movie on sale, or some new dlc I didn't know about is fine with me. I can even live with an ad that at least has to do with a cross promotion deal or a contest. A lot of that stuff goes on is PS Home. But random things that have zero connection to playsation or xbox content...no, no, no.
PSN also runs ads for Amazing Spider Man 2, which is coming out next Summer, because it is a Sony Pictures flick. Why in the world am I seeing something like that, and why don't I get to choose not to see it? When we start saying, "Oh well", to everything... we get stuff like what is happening now on PSN and Live. The idea that I am paying a subscription service to a console I already paid for and seeing ads I don't want to see doesn't make sense. The subscription service means I am paying a premium, and shouldn't have to see twenty ads in twenty seconds if I choose not to.
So whats next? "OMG, I shouldn't have to see these billboards on the highway because I pay toll" Get over it and keep moving
You assume that because you pay for a subscription service you shouldn't have to see ads. I'm sure its not in your terms of service. People don't get that advertising is not all about making money for the company, but raising funds to offset the cost to the consumer. Its the same reason you have commercials, print ads, and internet advertising. Many of these services are being delivered to the consumer below cost. Unless its some obtrusive pop-up ad that prevents me from doing anything for a certain period of time, most ads are harmless.
I wouldn't be too bothered, if they had us fill out a small survey with a few tick boxes. Which then could send us ads for the stuff we have actually ticked like, I would tick sci-fi for films and rpg for games. Then at least I'm getting ads for things I'm interested in, instead of crappy romantic comedy's and anything with Ben stiller.
Why do a survey when you preferences (what films you rent/watch or what games you play) can tell them that information
You are asking, "Why have a preference... when they already know what you want to see"? I don't want that, and that is why PSN in the past year has become just as bad as Live. There is no reason to pay for a console, pay for a subscription service, and then get ads tailored to you because they have tons of data on everything you have ever watched/played. I would get Xbox Live adverts based on some trailer I watched several years ago. The fact that that info was stored somewhere so they can put up better ads and make more money off those better ads is alarming to me. The fact that I am paying money to see them makes me feel idiotic.
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I've developed quite a good banner blindness in my life, such things don't really affect me. Now, if they go the Youtube's way, with a 15-45 seconds ad before a game loads or between stage transitions, then I'd go barking mad.
I've been wondering when they will try this, quite surprised nobody has pushed it yet. That will be a bad day.
I suppose such a method just won't cut it. Youtube is a free service, so it's kinda-sorta ok for them to do so. But a game you paid for shouldn't have any ad within it, except maybe for future DLC related to said game or, at the real worse, ads for another game by the same studio.
Where does "shouldn't" fit in with "Let's try and make more money"? I don't think "shouldn't" enters a publisher moneyman's head too often, unfortunately.
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I think the resentment towards even xbox 360 ads was overblown... I hardly noticed them, unless I went looking for deals on games and what not... which I welcomed. If I had to go through pop up ads, or audio ads, I'd be annoyed, but just knowing what the new releases are on psn/xbl doesn't bother me.
I am okay with it because personally the extra revenue this brings Sony surely will in turn bring more money to afford things like better funding leading to games for their studios, support, i.p's and online gaming. Adverting really doesnt affect me too much i can see some are offended but i like to try see its positives too.
The "ads" are in the Whats New section, were you complaining about them on the PS3? Its the same thing and they are "ads" for the PS Store. And they are rarely there, its mainly just when i boot the system up, theres like 2 ads, and then they go away. Its actually better then it was with PS3.
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