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Submitted by s8anicslayer 275d ago | article

How to build a next gen shooter - DICE's top 10 tips

OXM - "When it works as advertised, at least, Battlefield 4 is a deeply impressive game - it's a technological tour de force, as expected, the maps are expansive and option-packed, and the classes have been skilfully tweaked. How did DICE go about knocking its latest shooter into shape? I spoke to DICE's creative director Lars Gustavsson ahead of the game's release for a few easily digestible insights." (Battlefield 4, Lars Gustavsson, PC, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

inf3cted1  +   275d ago
Does that include making a game that does not crash constantly?
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SpitFireAce85  +   275d ago
Dice Fix your game Before you make anything else
like this list...:)
quaneylfc  +   275d ago
should have had remedy give the tips instead woooo!
Ares84HU  +   275d ago
DICE is THE worst company to ask about how to make a video game at this point.

I've never in my life seen a game that has so many problems as BF4.

DICE should be ashamed.
MWong  +   274d ago
I completely agree DICE should not be giving any advice with the poor stability of BF4. If the game was on the level of BC2 I would say hell yea DICE give us them tips.
Frankfurt  +   275d ago
They should follow their own advice.
Soldierone  +   275d ago
"If your game isn't crashing, it needs to be full of campers and poor hit markers"
SIRHC13  +   275d ago
Not sure if trolling
UbiquitousClam  +   275d ago
tip 1: make sure the game is at least in a functioning state before releasing it, if not FUCK IT release the game anyway.
Elwenil  +   275d ago
This is about like asking cooking advice from someone who can't fix toast.
arbitor365  +   275d ago
having a glitch that disables autosave on the campaign isnt in there....
BabyObama  +   275d ago
Have they fixed that yet?
I lost my save 4 times
And I don't want to start it again tell it's working right
malokevi  +   275d ago
Snarky comment about bugs in spite of bf4 awesomeness.
ExCest  +   275d ago
1. Middle East
2. Big guns
3. America wins
4. Small guns
5. Everyone gets an instant kill knife
6. Make things pretty
7. Make things really big
8. Make other things really small
9. Make things loud
10. If all fails, try Russia
SageHonor  +   275d ago
Haha that made me laugh
ExCest  +   275d ago
I'm waiting for Infinity Ward to make a comment about how to make a good shooter.
dcj0524  +   275d ago
COD in a nutshell.
2pacalypsenow  +   275d ago
They missed step 11 - Check for bugs
KillerBanana7  +   275d ago
Step 1: Do not let EA publish it!!!!!
DomceM  +   275d ago
they also missed step 1.

Dont be dice, EA, or activision.
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Mac420  +   275d ago
You realize DICE is a games studio an EA an Activision are publishers ...

I agree like everybody else, game has a lot of horrible bugs currently, but to much flak has been taken by DICE when people need to dish it out to EA. Don't think DICE wanted to release so soon.

Sad to because it's just another Dev under a shitty publisher. There just stuck, Why I find it so funny some don't take it anymore an leave.

Bungie & MS
Respawn Entertainment (Aka IW)& Activison... Only reason I say this is because already 40 employees have left Infinity Ward to work for there old bosses Vince an Jason to bad they signed with EA.

But that is what is so weird to me, Bungie seems to have Activision by the balls as so does Respawn with EA but these publishers, atleast to me just want the quickest turn around on every game year in year out.

Think DICE would be a lot better off an the BF series if they went independent. Might be a tighter budget, a lot tighter but hey, BF4 would never happen again.
Omegasyde  +   275d ago
^^^^

I hate to break it to you MAC420 - EA owns dice and tell them where to Sh^^, how high to jump, and when to release a game.

I am sure Dice has some creative "control" but if Dice is working on a game that EA Exec find lackluster or non profitable, than EA would gank the game. If dice refused, EA stops sending paychecks and closes the studio. If dice only had a partnership - Then they risk EA cutting ties as well if a game is unsuccessful (look what happened to Kingdoms of Amular).

As you stated if Dice was independent, there would be no way for that studio to afford to work on large projects like Battlefield or even have the money to license the Starwars IP. I think in all honesty, EA thinks that "EA" is too big to fail. We'll see in the next few years as they might lose the NFL license, and get a stigma for releasing "buggy/unplayable" games(examples - Bf4, NBa Live, Warfighter.

Atleast they have need for speed, Bioware, and FiFa...
DomceM  +   275d ago
@mac.

Is that a serious question?

You do understand that publishers are involved in game making because they fund the development right?
Mac420  +   274d ago
Publisher have a stake in it, but in no way do they develop anything for the game. So that statements is irrelevant, Thats like saying Jerry Jones wins football games for the Cowboys. He'd doesn't they just need his fat check book, If anything all they are is the yes/no guys. Majority of the studios are owned by their Publishers realize that, an like I stated before, that's the sad part. Can either of you read an comprehend something?

Independents an studios partnered up are a lot better off then being owned like a slave. Multiple people that were in studios owned by the publishers have publicly expressed how rejuvenating it was having freedom again once they left or created a new studio an partner up with a new publisher.

Prime example,like I stated before is Bungie an MS, Bungie loves the new found freedom. It is a partnership with Activision now but Bungie is definitely wearing the pants in that one.

EA an Activision owned Studios have been taking to much flak when they essentially have no control over deadlines is all I'm saying. They are being rushed to put a game on the shelf year in year out an have no time to innovate or bring anything really fresh an new to a game or franchise, an when they due it's a half complete game that takes a month or longer to iron out.

Just think more respect needs to be paid to Devs that or pity because there modern day slaves IMO.They don't even get appreciation for the things they try to give us on these ridiculous deadlines.
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R0n0rve  +   275d ago
They should add: "Make sure the game is actually finished before releasing it."
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Hazmat13  +   275d ago
1. lens flare.
2. uh.... more lens flare.
3. make the eyes of the main player look like the lens of a camera.
ATi_Elite  +   275d ago
1. DO NOT make it for 5 platforms thus spreading your team very thin as you rush it out the door to beat COD to market all the while totally insuring your game is FULL of BUGS do to lack of a proper beta.

Thanks EA for messing up Battlefield. No one wants BF5 and it seems EA is holding Bad Company 3 hostage.

So PLEASE just make Battlefront 3 for PS4/XB1/PC so it can be a solid game and a bug free release.

not trying to undermine x360/ps3 owners but HEY something has to give.
Omegasyde  +   275d ago
I am torn at your first statement. Yes, 5 platforms is alot but what consoles would you of rather had Bf4 release on old gen vs next gen vs pc only?
dcj0524  +   275d ago
Next gen and PC
ATi_Elite  +   275d ago
I would of rather had EA just wait until BF4 was solid across all platforms.

they could have waited until February and had a SPECTACULAR release on 5 platforms with a bug free game.

having to WAIT for Conquest Maps really ticked me off!
sourav93  +   275d ago
Okay, someone please clear things out for me. I got BF4 for ps4 recently (bf4 for ps3 was £25, so I upgraded to ps4 version for another £10). I managed to finish the campaign in 2 sessions, and there was no problem with the game saving. I've played about 4 hours of multiplayer, and not once have I been disconnected/kicked out of a match, nor has the game crashed. So were these problems more prevalent a week ago than they are now? I played on PC when it first released and the game was filled with bugs, the console versions likewise.

I think what I'm trying to say is that are people still having these constant crashes? If not, then why still keep whining about it? I think more than half the people who are whining or making snide comments don't even have the game, just doing it to troll/for likes.

P.S. If you do have the game and are still facing problems, then I'm sorry, the above is not meant for you. I hope your game gets fixed by DICE soon.
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Omegasyde  +   275d ago
Crashes are still happening. I think it's memory dump related.

Meaning - Game uses X amount of memory on console, crashes, everything stored in the memory was wiped.

Ironically - EA at first blamed Sony and their firmware, yet the same problems are happening on Xbox1 as well.
Onenyte  +   275d ago
The fucking cheek of him lol
quenomamen  +   275d ago
Doesn't DICE know only Activision can put out shitty games ?
For years matter of fact.
Ticklez  +   275d ago
Ahhh
Tzunoy  +   274d ago
10 tips

Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
Hire testers and test the game properly before release
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