"The lie of the year, at least in regards to gaming, probably has to be Microsoft claiming the Xbox One vs PS4 hardware battle isn’t that lopsided."
I don't think anybody thinks that the One and the PS4 are close in power anymore. Every time MS comes out with a claim out of nowhere (like the MS rep spreading lies on Reddit) they are slammed with ( my favorite thing)facts, proving them wrong
Misterx is the reason behind this stupidity...
I feel sorry for his followers who believe anything he says :(. Like i said the PS4 is a gaming console first with media as an after thought and the xbone is a media device first and games as an after thought. @life I'm starting to believe you're one of MR X.Followers xD.BTW Flopza 5 looks nothing like the reveal trailer -_-/.
I have to say misterx website is hilarious to read especially the comment section, I feel out of touch with the Xbox owners who comment on that site, it's a serious zombiefied beehive mentality, honestly it's like a mafia where misterx is the godfather, kinda scary stuff their mentality and the things they type, it's like a cult. me, I just like games no matter the console
I'm glad I own a ps4 the most powerful console on earth today.
Not a lie because it's true, X1 is powerful console that will have some impressive games that push next gen graphics, AI, gameplay, and tech all gen long, as I'm sure ps4 will do also. Fortunately microsoft is ahead of the game with some great exclusive IPS already and coming in 2014.
At Jokes. Lol the lie is them claiming its as powerful as the PS4, when its not, claiming there isn't a performance disparity when launch multiplatform games show it, even more MS own launch games which don't hold up technically to Ps4 games. No one's saying the xbo isn't powerful and won't bring great looking games. Its software coming isn't bad looking, but they are at the bottom of totem pole for technical merits
"Xbox One GPU Just As Fast As The PS4 Hardware?" PS4 is and always will be more powerful. Fact, the quicker some people accept that the quicker they can start enjoying their console without being so bitter. To prove my point: BF4 PS4 = 900p and holds 60fps more often than the X1 despite the X1 only running it at 720p. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... CoD Ghosts PS4 = [email protected] 60fps vs X1'S 720P @ 60FPS (which is shocking). AC4 - PS4 = 1080p solid 30fps vs X1 = 900p with minor dips below 30fps. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... I think you get the general idea how this is turning out. Now lets take the best looking game from each console: RYSE- 900p linear hack and slash which dips into the....TEENS. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Killzone SF - open area FPS which runs at native 1080p and sits between 30 and 60fps in the singleplayer. This entire comments section and article has been a waste of time because all you have to do is look at the games.
Misterx's site is a joke, which is why I visit it regularly, purely for the comment section as it is pure 100% unadulterated toxic XB1 fanboyism. What they force themselves to believe is honestly astonishing. Two of the 'number' of insiders that have popped up there have self proclaimed themselves as fakes LOL. Even admitting it in the comment section and getting banned. The ones that have been banned have gone on record to say that the Misterx and the insider are the same person and only regurgitate what others say to make a convincing sounding post. Such an amazing troll blog it is. Has everyone up in arms trying desperately to find anything that has a one over on the PS4, which like any sane person knows, it doesn't have. Even with the over clocked CPU it still doesn't really match up. The most powerful console has never won the console war, but power matched with ease of development is a whole different ball game that the PS4 seems to be winning quite drastically.
Yeah we do believe in cerny and kaz and yoshida
@jokesonyou After 2014 you won't see anymore good games made by Xbox. By then they'll be pushing apps and multiplatform Dlc! Just like last gen. I got a 360 late in the game. I played a total of 6 games then it collected dust. You can't tell an xbot this because there blinded by all the tiles and sparkles on live. I've never thought live was worth the money.
Jokes. LOL. you are joking right?
Jokesonyou once again on defence stance. Good job, mate, cos inferior console needs all support it can get.
@JokesOnYou: How you got a "Well Said" screams of intervention. The issue isn't if the Xbox One is a powerful console. It's the most powerful Xbox console ever made. The issue is the lie that it's as powerful as the PS4. It isn't. The PS4 is factually the most powerful console ever made. Not only on paper, but in specs and demonstrations as well. Plus, Microsoft isn't ahead of the game. Their exclusives received the same kind of tanking review scores as the PS4's and we both know who has the better first party studios between the two and it ain't Microsoft.
As soon as sony will show a single game that shows any edge over I'll believe. So far xbox one exclusives are best looking ones (and did you see QB??) and untill that changes your "facts" are not facts. And please don't pop with "kz" is best looking game out there cause it's far from that. You can slam me with disagrees all you wan't but you know it's the truth. Wait Believe.
If 1080p at 30-60fps in an open area game vs 900p and dips into the teens on a corridor hack and slash isn't "an edge" then i don't know what is. Killzone is the best looking next gen game, take a look for yourself: http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Bearing in mind those are heavily compressed screenshots and they still look better. On my TV KZ looks amazing an native 1080p.
@Lukas_Japonicus Neogaf? Really? Please don't make me post some real in-game screens, not cherry picked, but straight from reviews.Oh wait, actually one you've posted shows it great. http://i151.photobucket.com... http://i151.photobucket.com... If this is native 1080p then the pixel quality is just awful. Also the guys kneeling... I love the square feet they got. these models in far look worse than halo 1 LOD just take a look and stop lying to yourself. Gotta love the denial of you fans. KZ looks good but definately not best. It doesn't even pull off half of the effects bf4 has or even half of the players on map, vehicles and simulation. KZ is just a ps3 game upped in resolution with few new things added. Now I'm not saying ps4 is weak but so far it showed NOTHING. As soon as it will show anything worth my money, I'll buy it.
When the XB1 can do next gen games without any hiccups(frame rate issues, resolution downgrades) compared to its direct competitor, wake me up or something. All that's on the XB1 right now is inferior 3rd party games and a substantial amount of 360 ports of games that were destined for the 360. The odd on out is Ryse, but it's developed by Crytek so that becomes clear instantly. The rest pale in comparison. In contrast all PS4 games are built from the ground up for the platform as first party devs are still brushing off their hard work for the PS3 all up until the PS4s release. No need for past gen ports as the PS3 has not been short of exclusives for the past 2-3 years ;).
Lukas- I can run the PSone version of Final Fantasy VII @ 1600p/60 on my PC, so by your logic it must look better than any PS4 game running 1080p right? :rolleyes: High display resolution has nothing to do with texture resolution, texture quality, shadows & lighting, shader use, etc. High resolution only allows higher levels of these, but doesn't require them. Just go and look at games available on PS4 and PC and compare them both at 1080p. Even though the resolution is the same, the PC version will have higher quality textures, shadows, shaders, and lighting. And don't forget, just because a game runs 1080p, that doesn't specify whether texture or shadow maps are 1024x1024, 2048x2048, 4096x4096. Lastly, Both Xbone and PS4 are notorious for using too much depth of field in order to hide poor load distances, and LOD (loss of detail according to distance). http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
@BallsEye: How many Infamous Second Son screens do you want? @AndrewLB: Your PC is irrelevant to the conversation, thus off topic.
I swore the Xbox had a more powerful CPU .. last time I check the cpu is the heart of any computer , so actually the xbox it's more powerful.
wow really ps4 cpu is 18.0 /2grs xbox is 175 when they see the gap they overclock their CPU cuz it would give the ps4 to much of power over theirs tell me how is the Xbox CPU more powerful than the ps4 again lol you Xbox fans are grasping at straw really bad
Xbone and PS4 have identical 8-core (actually they're 4 core with 2 modules each) AMD jaguar based CPU portions of their APU chip, except that the PS4's runs at 1.6ghz and the Xbone runs at 1.75ghz. The Xbone does indeed have a more powerful CPU portion of the APU. Sony's GPU portion of the APU is more powerful than the one in the Xbone by about 30%. And before I get a ton of disagrees, this is based on the reality that neither console will touch its maximum theoretical limit because that's simply not possible.
@AndrewLB: Care to link us to the page that has the concrete figure for Sony's CPU, because as of right now, Sony has never released information on the exact clockspeed and plenty of people have stated it's 1.8ghz, not 1.6
@nosferatuzodd Xbox fan?? Correction I have both consoles last gen .. and I plan on buying both this gen so I'm far from a fanboy, but like I said I remember it being that the Xbox One had the better cpu while the PS4 had the better gpu.
I wouldn't doubt it Ryse Quantum Break Black Tusk (graphics in the trailer confirmed to be in-game) Forza
Ryse - Made by the creators of Cry Engine so you would expect nothing less from them. Quantum Break - Game just screams quality from graphics to gameplay but we do need to see more. Black Tusk - We don't really know much on that. And the trailer was *inengine* not in-game. http://www.vg247.com/2013/0... Forza - As a graphics showpiece Forza is not amazing. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... http://www.neogaf.com/forum... In motion it doesn't look as bad but it's defiantly not a graphics showpiece.
I meant in engine I know it wasn't gameplay but it's not prerendered
Not one of those games couldn't run on a PS4, its only because of exclusive partnerships that make these only on Xbox One. And if anything they would run better.
I have yet to see a game on either console that can't be run on the other, and don't talk about the graphics or anything pc because that isn't my argument and I don't want to talk about the obvious.
[email protected] Really?? Killzone SF may not be a Perfect game, but and may be on par with Ryse visually, but the actual code would be nearly twice as deep and more complex and may run on an Xbox One but not at the 30-60fps that it does on PS4.
I remember when Pennello was on NeoGaf trying to spin the fact the Xbone was designed for the scope of multimedia, so not having as much raw power dedicated to gaming. These corporate spokespeople should not be telling lies about their products or spinning new ones about their competition. Larry is just as bad for it with his recent claims of Xbone selling the fastest. Or an older one about the DRM not being able to be removed. Or the real intentions with force-bundling the Kinect and Yusuf Mehdi going to the 'Advertisers Masters of Marketing Conference' to sell to benefits of using the Kinect to gather data for marketing purposes, and him then trying to lie about his intention with that. They will spin however they want to make it seem like they aren't making missteps or that they are in a worse position. We are already seeing the fruits of this disparity just like we're already seeing people in denial about the disparity between the consoles and so the downplaying will continue until unequivocal proof is put on a pedestal. And even then, the most delusional and desperate will continue to lie to themselves and others.
Lmaooo seeing Albert Penello post again & again on gaf still makes me laugh. "People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against" "There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious"
Lol, he said that and then Crytek announced A Downgrade, then Call of Duty, Battlefield 4, AC4 released all confirming they perform worse on the XBO. Its been a funny thing with Albert and Xbo
Again with this? Really?
some big lies came from microsoft this year. they have been really caught with their pants down on so many occasions.
Not sure why people keep goin on about this. At the end of the day multiplats will look the same. 1080P 60 frames. People can disagree and spin all they want but its the truth and. You can't deny the truth.
"At the end of the day multiplats will look the same" - But they don't none is performance the same. "People can disagree and spin all they want but its the truth and You can't deny the truth" - We don't need to deny anything like you said the truth like you is out there and PS4 has the superior multi-plats. That's the truth. It's won every single DF faceoff.
I know. But it wasn't some big exaggerated power gap that everyone was talking about at least not now. Resolution and technical is what PS4 has over the X1. Its possible the the gap could widen even further and PS4 plainly outshining the X1. But if sources are saying are true the X1's tools could improve and harness more of the power of the machine then I can see the two versions looking very identical. Imo the the biggest difference will probably see is in the technical part of game PS4 having better textures anti alaising lusher say trees and what not. Similar differences in the PS3 and 360. Other than that I agree with you.
The disparity is huge, the GPU is more powerful, getting better at using an either will yeild better results but its still the same result. They'll get soe better optimization s from Xbox but, they'll get more optimizations from the PS4.
''You can't deny the truth.'' Well...You just did.
I think Microsoft has played this generation cleverly, some may not like the way they are doing things but from a business stand point they have it right. The PS4 is slightly more powerful than the X1 not by as much as some people on N4G make out, but yes the PS4 is more powerful. Because of the hd resolutions 720 vs 1080 you can obviously make a bettered textured and more things onscreen with 720 compared to what you can do with 1080. N4G gamers know the difference and can see it as far as resolution goes but the average person cant. They see an advert or a friends X1 playing the latest game in 720 and then see it on PS4 and they think whats the difference. I know at least 3 ppl who have gone out and bought an X1 just from seeing the Ryse advert on tv. They are convinced that its more powerful than the PS4 even if you show them specs.
"N4G gamers know the difference and can see it as far as resolution goes but the average person cant." What does that say about those people, and what kind of difference does it make in terms of the reality of what these console can output? http://i.minus.com/iW998p1o... If the average person cannot see the differences outlined in that, there's no getting around the fact that they have severe visual deficiency. "They are convinced that its more powerful than the PS4 even if you show them specs." There we go again. You're using the absolute stupidity of a select few people and use it to judge the longevity of a console that is significantly more powerful.
Perhaps I know alot of stupid ppl then. I haven't seen anything on a PS4 that looks graphically better than Ryse, and I have been gaming for over 25 years!!! How the average mum and dad are going to tell the difference beats me. There's a ton more non gamers hardcore gamers out there. Your point doesn't compute...
My point completely computes. Those people you're talking about "mums and dads" and "non gamers". They're looking at things that don't concern the average gamer, price being the strongest component, and that is where Sony has it strongest. They'll look at Kinect and wonder "how is this different from the previous one?", and "why can't I buy one without it for less?". Ryse is one game from a developer known to get the most out of a piece of hardware. The rest of the launch lineup don't show any potential advantage whatsoever. Killzone: SF looks just as good as Ryse if not better, except the facial animations, that they seem to have put a ton of work into. I'm not the only source to have mentioned that. Even the infamously biased Polygon said it. So basically you can't make up your mind about what kind of point you want to make? Are you admitting that the console is weaker since its design wasn't as focused? Are you ignoring the fact that even at launch, the differences are apparent, not only if you observe them, but also if you analyse them a la Digital Foundry? Are you pretending that just because parents and non gamers may not see the difference that they don't exist or matter? Sounds like it to me. And that's not a good admission. We're gamers and with us, the truth wins out - using ignorance as any kind of defence in gaming is shameful.
Digital, u need to get off the payroll. You actually admit that Ryse looks as good as anything on PS4 and then go on to say the makers are known for good graphics. Couldn't it just be, that the ps4 isn't as more powerful as we were led to believe. I can't see the 50% difference. I really honestly can't. Oh and that's with having both consoles right in front of me on the same tv too. If your so fond of specs why don't you consider getting a top end pc. I hear they blow a PS4.
I'll believe it when I see it. For now, all I see is fanboys fighting and arguing hypotheticals. As far as gameplay demonstrations for games that will be available next year, I have yet to see anything from Sony that can justify all the noise you people make. Prove me wrong.
they are clueless.
no i think lie of the year is PS4 logo "greatness awaits" so far no greatness and nothing special
Try harder, trywizardo. I suggest you look up the word "Awaits" in the dictionary. In fact i'll link you there so everyone else can see how foolish your comment is. http://www.thefreedictionar...
It should be, you just have to wait. But who cares, if the come with great games then ill wait. Xbox fires on all cylinders in the beginning, sony is a slow n steady pace. I got both, so its all good
Look at all the fanboys . Where is all the 50% more power that ps4 was supposed to have ? Judging by the games I think we can all say that xb1 is just as powerful or even more powerful than ps4. Ryse is still the best looking game out on consoles right now and quantum break looks better than any of the 2nd wave titles. Where are all the games on ps4 that are supposed to blow xb1 away? Where are all the ps4 sales that were supposed to blow away xb1 because of drm, kinect and the more expensive price tag. Sales seem to pretty close to me. It's not gonna happen because Sony has once again fed its fans with a bunch of hype. Why isn't Sony speaking about it? Killzone ended up not looking more impressive than Ryse and the game with the most awards are on xb1. To top it all off ms 2014 lineup with titles like titian fall, quantum break, halo, sunset overdrive, project spark and even more unannounced 1st party stuff is gonna be awesome. Ms has never bragged about power. They only said the best games and best place to play will be on xb1.
"Where is all the 50% more power that ps4 was supposed to have ? Judging by the games I think we can all say that xb1 is just as powerful or even more powerful than ps4" - Hmmmm last time i checked a game running at a higher res with the same/better framerate or having better AA is quite a power difference I dont know the right perecentage mertic but the difference is clearly there if not everything will be the same. "Ryse is still the best looking game out on consoles right now" - thats not really true considering KZ beats Ryse in some things just like Ryse beats KZ others. "Where are all the ps4 sales that were supposed to blow away xb1 because of drm, kinect and the more expensive price tag. Sales seem to pretty close to me" - Of course they are now but it would have be real interesting to see how it would have done if MS struck to their original vision. Obvouisly the two weeks after E3 when pre-orders really started coming in must have been a real eye opener ;) "Ms has never bragged about power" - Ohhh so all the cloud stuff doesn't count. Forza 5 being 1080p because of the cloud according to dan greenwalt. The cloud making XB1 4 times more powerful when connect to the internet etc... That's all fluff hehehe... "They only said the best games and best place to play will be on xb1." - I personally dont agree with that especially not after being an X360 owner for 4+ yrs and looking at XB1 titles.
So let me get this straight, Belking, the PS4 running games at a resolution 125% or 56% higher than the X1 is some how not proof of it being 50% more powerful? Yeah, that makes sense, in the @$$backwards world of the MS fanboys. See in the bizarro MS fanboy world Ryse getting downgrading from 1080p to 900p/~15-30fps, and reducing your poly count from 150k to 85k is somehow an upgrade and impressive, but PS4 outperforming the X1 by 125% performance isnt. And the list goes on and on, DR3 downgrading from 1080p/30 to 720p/~10-30fps, KI downgrading from 1080/60 to 720/60 while also reducing the particles. All the meanwhile, Sony games were upgrading, sorry kid, but you can argue with the facts all you want but it dont make you right.
Man, you are beyond delusional. "Judging by the games I think we can all say that xb1 is just as powerful or even more powerful than ps4" So why does RYSE, a linear hack and slash only run at 30fps and experience dips into the teens while Killzone is an open area FPS which sits between 30 and 60fps in the singleplayer? I will give facial animation to RYSE though....KZ's facial animation can't touch them. But lighting, resolution, framerate, textures, particles all go to Killzone SF. "I think we can all say that xb1 is just as powerful or even more powerful than ps4." That's not true.....the PS4 is more powerful, accept that. It's not speculation, its not guessing....the PS4 is the more powerful console...proven by what i just said above and proven by the fact that EVERY SINGLE multiplat looks and runs better on PS4. " Sales seem to pretty close to me. " Oh you mean the 2.1 mil vs the 2 mil thing? The 2 mil was X1's 18 day sales number....Sony hasn't given theirs but i imagine its much higher than the 2.1 mil they sold from November the 15th until December the 1st. The PS4 is the most wanted, best selling, fastest selling (1 mil in 24 hours), most powerful (literally a fact), best supported in terms of 1st party devs, has the best console version of multiplats, has the more appealing price......its just complete domination. But don't take my word for it......look at the numbers, PS4 has sold more, Killzone is the best selling exclusive out of them all....as i said, complete domination and has been since the beginning of this year. ""Ms has never bragged about power"" Look at Kayant's comment to see why you are wrong....yet again. And 2014 looks amazing for ther PS4 too, not just the X1. Driveclub,Infamous SS, The Order 1886 plus a host of superior multiplats, unannounced exclusives and amazing indie games (planetstide 2). "Where is all the 50% more power that ps4 was supposed to have ? " Google "diminishing returns", 50% more power doesn't necessarily mean 50% better looking games. You X1 fans have no clue about anything, you just run your mouths. If you used google before posting your comments you would have 99% less comments than what you have now.
""I think we can all say that xb1 is just as powerful or even more powerful than ps4." My god.....do you even hear yourself? Denial is a dangerous state of mind..... it causes you to completely ignore stone cold proven facts. The PS4 is more powerful Belking....accept that fact. "I think we can all say" Nope. Only you could say something that false. Even the other X1 trolls on this website wouldn't say something so false. The PS4 has more power, which will help in the long run, just like the PS3's extra power helped in the long run with its exclusives. TLOU is the best looking game last gen hands down.
hahaha such a one bubble belking fanboy explosion of fury and denial. This one has been absolutely priceless. "Please get excited for the console I've bought! :(" So much FUD and personal opinion trying to be played off as fact. Dear me. Judging by the 'sales' you speak of, I think you ought to go out and actually buy and XB1 belking.
More like lie of the century.
Lie of the year would have to be "TEH CLOUDZ CAN MAKEZ X1 4X MORE POWERFULZ" -YOBO
This actually isn't a lie
What else can you expect from Micro$oft? They're con artists.
You guys are missing the real point here... Why is that Ps4 Tank not in BF4?!
exactly what i was thinkinq..maybe it will be dlc
I bought both consoles, the XB1 and the PS4. I love both consoles but I've been playing on the xbox more. I have Ryse, KI, DR3, BF4, and Ghosts. For the PS4, I only have AC4. I'm buying all digital this gen and the switching between games or apps is so smooth, especially with kinect. The kinect is the reason why I have multiple XB1's in my home and only one PS4. I use skype. I use the snap function all the time. I like playing kinect games with my family. The TV integration is great. If I'm waiting for friends to join me in my Ghosts lobby,my just say "xbox, watch TV" and now I can watch TV while I wait. I can snap TV so I can set up my class while watching an episode of Grimm. The fact is, the XB1 works for me and my family more than the PS4 does. It doesn't matter that the graphics aren't on par or better than the PS4. Most of my friends play CoD on the Xbox, so I got ghosts for the xbox. I should have bought BF4 for the PS4 but I learned my lesson. Games that my friends play, I'll get on xbox. The rest I'm getting for the PS4 and that is why I got AC4 for the PS4. Multiplats are most likely going be on the PS4 unless they have a strong multiplayer, In which case, it depends on my friends what system I buy it for.
Sorry to say but you are a bad lier/troll.
PsylentKilller is my gamertag on both systems if you you would like to check it out for yourself. IMG_2074.jpeg IMG_5102.jpeg IMG_5184.jpeg How do you post pictures from your iPad?
So what is it that this man said that makes him a liar??? Because he had both systems..and plays the Xbox one more?? This site.
As an owner of an Xbox One I can appreciate all the things that Microsoft has done with it but there is always one question that always pops in my head when I play the games: "What if it was as powerful as the PS4?" I just can't help to think that the games would look better if the hardware had a little extra kick. Hats off to both consoles though, I'm just a little envious of the hardware Sony packaged with the PS4 to be completely honest.
The best thing about the XB1 is the voice commands... Not a lot of people know this but if you shout "Xbox ... 1080p" it turns itself off.