The PS4 version of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn will enter its beta testing phase in February, and Game Director and Producer Naoki Yoshida is starting to share more details about it.
Hmm little disappointing, but at least I hope it will be rock solid at 30.
I would doubt it. That's not what MMORPGs are about. Even with a BEEFY gaming PC you dip under 30 fps in the most crowded situations unless you're playing something graphically nefarious like wow. Keep in mind that Final Fantasy XIV easily puts you in situations with hundreds of people around you in big fights like Odin or Behemoth.
yeah I understand what you saying, but this runs on my PS3 with many frame drops, Just thought it might be quite solid on PS4.
The PS4 version has really nothing to do with the PS3 version. It'll be 1080p native (PS3 is 720p), and the graphical fidelity will be comparable to PC at max settings. It's gonna be seriously like night and day :D
i cant wait to get that far into the game to witness that, its finding the time to play it is the hard part.
@DA_SHREDDER: with Odin you can actually see him very early in the game, since he's a FATE that appears in the field :D
haha @ "graphically nefarious"
Not surprised. This isn't really a twitch game that needs 60 FPS.
God, trying to do Odin or Behemoth when the game first came out on PS3 was a pain. Getting killed by things you can't even see is annoying as hell...
Since when is 30 frames not solid? The standard right now is 30, 40 is great, and 60 is amazing. For me if it stays at 30 then it's good enough. Last generation games dropped to single digits a lot.
Even my Laptop that runs games like Arkham Asylum in 60fps with full settings can't even run a game like WoW at stable 60fps. It's more like 40-60fps most of the time.
There is nothing disappointing about 30FPS. Unless of course, you can do it better? Spoiled gamers really ruin the vibe, man...
waiting for my beta invite
I should have jumped on the $10 sale when I had a chance. Free upgrade to ps4! Bah, lesson learned
This game will see a 10 dollar price tag a lot so don't worry.
But still 1080p at least
at least is 30fps the hardware on ps4 is too inferior to produce multiple characters at 60fps maybe they should of lower the res to 480p so it can run at 60fps.
Well... you should give this idea to the xbone instead. But I dont think its good idea to do so, I mean look at my bubbles :'(
lol, "multiple" We're talking about hundreds here. Not even a very beefy gaming PC holds 60 fps all the time in an MMORPG like FFXIV
i think that method is exclusive to the xBone
Yep typical xbox owner, full of false ego and no brains or reading comprehension
Yeah yeah. Talk about Xbox One, or wait Xbox 720p out of the boxee box. I have it, 720p on most titles out there.
Maybe that's why they didn't call it the 720.
your shitbox one can't do any better.
Very disappointing EDIT: How could you NOT be disappointed? Didn't Sony say every PS4 game was going to be 1080/60? I'm pretty sure they did, and that sets an expectation. If an expectation is not met, one is disappointed. Has nothing to do with anything else besides that. EDIT 2: Even if Sony didn't say it, Yoshi-P DID say it. It even mentions in the article how he originally said 60 FPS
I'm pretty sure they didn't.
Maybe they did, maybe the didn't, regardless it's sad that they would rather us see 100 people mindlessly smashing a dumb FATE boss than 60 FPS in dungeons.
Yes they did say 1080p 60fps The PS4 Version of Final Fantasy XIV Will Run at 60 FPS,1080p, Equivalent to Highest PC Settings On February the 22nd 2014 Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn will enter its beta testing phase on PS4, but how will it run and how good will it really look? According to Director and Producer Naoki Yoshida, it’ll run really well and look great, as he shared today in an interview, together with relevant info on the PS4 beta. Abriael you posted the article. I'm very disappointed .I was disappointed when battlefield 4 was not in 1080p 60fps. EA promise the same thing 1080p 60fps on PS4. The PS4 is 50% more powerful than xBoned . Put both should have been a more powerful 2.5-3Tflops. This is coming from a hardcore Sony fan read my comments if you don't believe Me . My sony brothers Let us not become Like xboiz fanBoys. let us not be blind to the truth. Don't push disagree for everything that's not positive about PlayStation. that's what's make us different from Xboiz we choose PlayStation because of logic not fanboyism http://n4g.com/news/1359428...
@Evilsnuggle: that wasn't Sony. And while Yoshi-P did say it, plans change in game development. There's nothing too strange with it, even more so when you're dealing with an unpredictable environment like a MMORPG, in which the developer can't really predict how many models will be displayed on screen at the same time. That interview was released less than a month after the PC version's release. They had plenty time to run metrics, and to see how many players there are around during crowded encounters, and they simply changed their plans, which is something that does happen in game development. Maybe you should tell yourself "let's not become like fanboys" of whatever platform, that go up in arms every time a developer dares to change his plans about something. Ultimately if one is too "disappointed" about a MMORPG running at 30 hz instead of 60, he doesn't really know much about MMOs, that notoriously have the most unstable framerate of any genre out there. The only ones that care much about framerates with a game that has zero twitch like this are the fanboys.
30fps is fine if it doesn't dip below that. FF isn't constantly in motion with fast changing camera angles like you would have in racing game or FPS, so it's unlikely most would notice a difference. The 1080 over 720 will make more a difference. I've yet to see a single MMORPG that doesn't skip frames, or freeze, but that is usually down to the netcode and trying to lock the frames into what the character is doing so the player actually does what they press a button for. And no, Sony NEVER said every game will be 1080p at 60fps. That'd just be a ridiculous statement to make.
@Evilsnuggle Even though the one who wrote that interview says SE's Yoshida said that, I see nothing in the interview that explicitly says that. All I see is them taking about the PC version and joking about it being 60FPS with 3 Titans taped together in the machine...
I would much rather see everything that I should be seeing on screen rather then 60fps and seeing far less and having to see people pop in and out on my screen like nonsense.
READ THE ARTICLE GENIUS
The ps4 won't be able to handle an mmorpg like ff14 at 60fps... no console made yet will. Hell only the highest end of PCs can properly hold it.
1080p/60fps is not and will not be standard this console generation, get used to it
Well Yoshi makes it seem like it was very much so possible, but they would rather render every single minute detail instantly, instead of giving us 60 FPS in places where you only see about 4-8 people (aka when it matters).
Dont you get it. Sony & MS are good liars sometimes. Sony is just better at trolling MS so their lies dont stand out as much.
Dungeons could easily pull off 60 FPS. The only place where frames suffer is when you grind FATEs with huge groups or are in a main town around a bunch of AFKers. But every single IMPORTANT aspect of the game could achieve 60FPS easily IMO.
I could've sworn it was noted to be 60fps a few months ago. This is pretty disappointing I must say.
30 FPS!?!? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
Lol at the comments right? B4 30fps was "last gen" for sony fans but now its ok to be 30fps. 30fps is cool now right? Lol
Mmorpgs are demanding. It's not 18 or 24 or 64 players. It's hundreds.
normal frames kid
I know! Now just imagine it on Xboner - 720p @ 15fps!
You guys are ridiculous. My FX processor with 7950 still can't hold 60fps around crowded areas. It's ~50fps consistently but will dip to 30fps occasionally. Capping the frame rate to 30fps will ensure a consistent and smooth user experience. Nothing more annoying than watching frame rates drop and rise between 30fps-60fps.
Agreed. Let's just hope it's a stable and constant 30 though. I think somewhere in the live letter he said that PS4 still had some optimization to go through or maybe he was talking about the Vita remote play. Either way, we'll find out come Feb.
As long as there isn't any frame drops in crowded places.
Really why is 60fps even needed for a game like this...Cmon people 30fps is fine for certain games...half the launch exclusives on X1 run at 30fps ask those guys if they minded it...
I didnt even notice because I enjoy a good game over visuals only. Look how killzone and ryse turned out.. Ryse was slightly better than the review. I would give it a 7/10. Solid but not spectacular
Come on, they said it was going to be 60fps...this is downright ridiculous What's next?, oh, I know, a graphical downgrade to ff15 of course
120 + fps maxed Out PC
Ridiculous that this is a thing, I would rather have a game run at optimal speed than just look pretty. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
This is a fun game to play. But it is PLAGUED with some problems. If you fight Odin or Bahamut, you rarely get to see these characters when you are fighting them. Why? Because playing the ps3 it only can show around 20 characters around Bahamut at the same time. Why? Because of the lack of power of the PS3 AND the terrible servers of Square Enix. The pc also shares some of that problem too. It can show a few more players, but once 50 or more show up the same thing happens to the pc. You cant see the enemy you are fighting and you cant see half the people there because the servers cant handle it. Titan HM used to have latency issues real badly, especially for the ps3. It doesn't for me now but many others still have that problem. What I mean is you think you are dodging an attack with plenty of time, but it turns out you are really too late because of lag/latency problems on Square's end. This is still a great game though.
Actually you cant see Odin or Behemoth because of the order the game prioritizes targets, which will be changed Tuesday. Also the latency issues will be solved for high level content Tuesday.
Thanks. But we have to wait 24 HOURS for patch to come through. What am I suppose to do? READ A BOOK? NOOOOO! Actually I'm going to see the Hobbit that night. Sweet!
I wonder how the comment section here would have been if MS had said 60fps for a game and then downgraded it later. I don't think people would be this understanding.
30FPS for a singleplayer experience is fine but for an mmo experience?..HELL NO! Lol You know in areas with massive amounts of ppl, that framerate will be constantly dipping..lol Have fun trying to play that shit..
You must have never played a MMO if you think 60 fps are important in that genre.
In MMOs with structured PvP (GW2 or WoW) a high framerate is desired for low input lag. For an PvE MMO like FFXIV, it's not really a big deal, though I would've liked it to be 60 fps capped at least. Even at 30 fps, you're still going to see frame rate drops in the big FATES.
No you obviously arent a good mmo player or are just a HUGE FF Fanboy. 30fps with most likely constant dip rates will kill you in a difficult dungeon where u dodge boss attacks or mobs rush you. Not to mention, it will be even worse skipping all over the area in a pvp match with attacks that dont connect on demand.
Now here come the "This game sucks because it ain't 60fps" idiots.
and I bet most of them don't even know what fps are lol
It really is sad seeing it too. Back then it was all about Blu-ray disc vs DVD. Now it's 30fps = suck and 60fps = good. So then games like Last of Us, Ni no Kuni and Demon's Souls must have sucked right? Stupid.
I wonder if ESO will hit 1080p 60fps, also does dcuo on the PS4 hit 60fps ?
Seriously. I'm dissapointed. it's understandable but still I thought 60FPS was going to be standard.
doesnt make any difference game is gonna tank, theres been to many disappointments and let downs from square for this to be anything else but a very well polished let down/disapointment
Expect something but settle for less. This is sure a "settle for less" Generation. OH WELL...
Very very disappointing.
Very very disappointing, you are used to 720p on most games on Xbox One. Yeah I can say this because I have both consoles, plus Wii U and PC for this generation.
I tried it on my PC, in crowded places it got something like 10fps and my PC isn't so old... if they manage to keep 30fps with xxxxx characters on the screen while casting whatever they have i guess it could be good. I won't buy it cause i'm tired of monthly subscriptions and if a day i get it, i get it for PC (i prefer playing MMORPG there) but from what i've seen from the beta this game is wonderful. P.S. nice to see how PC/Xbone fans are criticizing this. If you want to play the game on a great PC, you can do it, so why you care about a version of a console you're not going to use? If you want to play it on Xbone... wait.. oh right, no FFIV:ARR at all on Xbone. So, why do Xbone fanboys care?