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Why you can't play Xbox 360 games on Xbox One - developers talk backwards compatibility

OXM UK -"The Xbox One's inability to play Xbox 360 games hasn't gone down too well among the budget-conscious, but some hold out hope that Microsoft will eventually introduce backwards compatibility via system updates, rather than porting over individual titles on an ad hoc basis. The firm dropped hints to this effect during a Q&A earlier in the year, remarking that "we are exploring ways to bring gamers' favourite content to the new Xbox, but do not have any additional information to announce at this time."

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DxTrixterz958d ago

Why because if they did nobody would be buying 360s. Duh

kratos_TheGoat958d ago ImmatureShowReplies(3)
KonsoruMasuta958d ago

But more people would be buying XboxOnes, so it balances out.

nukeitall957d ago

I think a backwards compatible in hardware Xbox One in the future might be possible. Heck, maybe even the original Xbox compatibility.

That would truly be an all in one box.

For now, that is prohibitively costly for both MS and Sony. If you want Xbox One features, while gaming on Xbox 360, just hook your Xbox 360 into your Xbox One.

Voila, problem solved!!!

ArronC07957d ago

Hasn't hurt sales of the XBONE so far.

KingDadXVI957d ago

Not really. To have enough hardware power to employ BC through emulation would have driven the cost of the console even higher, probably $600 or more.

The did not want to have that high of a price.

nypifisel957d ago

There won't be any BC in either XBO or PS4. I don't get why this is so hard to understand: YOU WRITE PROGRAMS TOWARDS A HARDWARE! Which means any BC unless software emulated (resource heavy) is out of the question unless the previous consoles hardware is represented in the new platform (Which is expensive, you don't want to pay for it). Feasible would be Gaikai for Sony which we know is on the horizon or something similar on Xbo. K thx

rainslacker957d ago

@nuke

If it's not in the hardware now it likely won't be possible unless MS makes a new SKU.

The 360 uses a RISC based processor, whereas the X1 uses a CISC based processor. This isn't the end all of emulation for the system, however, the difference in power isn't significant enough to really emulate the RISC based processor at full speed.

Emulation is possible, but you wouldn't like the results.

Even more powerful desktop PC's which use a similar architecture to the X1 aren't able to emulate the RISC based architecture of the X1.

It could possibly be done through streaming on the cloud, but to date, MS hasn't shown a lot of interest in really getting BC working on a significant level.

I don't believe that future SKU's would add hardware for this either. The idea of console production is to reduce costs, not add them. It's one reason Sony removed BC from the PS3. As time goes on, BC becomes less important, as most people move on.

I would say though, that given that new consoles don't offer the same leaps in quality as prior generations, that prior gen games would be viewed as playable a lot longer. Just my thoughts though, I'm sure some will disagree.

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come_bom958d ago

Microsoft wants to do the same thing Sony does, sell the same game twice to the same consumer by releasing a special edition/pack/repack (or what the hell you want to call it) of the X360 game on the X1.

Outside_ofthe_Box957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

Yeah... anyone who says that they are doing it for the sole purpose of reselling games should either:

1) Try emulating the Xbox 360. Oh, and make sure you emulate it so that it runs on the XB1's architecture too!
(Good Luck with that! Not even greedy selfish PC pirates can do it on their "easy-to-develop-open-sou rce-platform" LOL)

OR

2) Try making a machine that runs 2 different architectures that:

- fits inside a small box
- that doesn't have over heating problems due to being inside a small casing
- and that doesn't cost a fortune to manufacture

Again, Good Luck with that!

Dark_king957d ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box
really emulating the CPU for the 360 or PS3 is going to be no easy task.

Outside_ofthe_Box957d ago

@Dark_king

Exactly. My point is that they aren't doing BC because it is very difficult and the costs of doing it isn't beneficial. Most people think adding BC is an easy thing to do and that they aren't doing it because they want to resell you games.

HeavenlySnipes957d ago

There really isnèt much point to it

The reason it worked for PS2 remasters was because the games on the PS2 ran at 480p. The PS3 versions ran at 1080p and 60FPS and added trophies

Are you gonna rebuy a game just because it went from 720p to 1080p for $40 when you can get the same game for $10 with a slightly lower resolution?

Volkama957d ago

You need a surprisingly decent PC to just about emulate a Sega Saturn effectively :) I don't think we'll be seeing 360/PS3 backward compatibility or emulation any time soon.

Streaming services on the other hand...

SilentNegotiator957d ago

No one has a gun to your head to force you to buy the game twice. Just keep the original game and system.

rainslacker957d ago

For the time being we don't know how either company is going to approach it. The remakes of last gen were actual enhancements to the original games, so that warranted charging for them. Digital copies of the original product through emulation were an option, however PS1 games were BC on all PS3 models. PS2 games were spotty when the hardware was removed.

Gaikai will likely serve as PS4's BC route. I'm ok with that so long as I can put in my original games and not have to rebuy them. It's not ideal, but it is what it is. Not sure if this will work though, as I'm not sure if the PS4 can actually read CD discs.

I'm still upset that Sony doesn't have PS1 emulation in software for the PS4 though. It's been readily available on much less powerful PC's using similar hardware for years now, since before the PS2 released in fact. If they try and monetize that I won't support it and will criticize it, however, Sony has no real obligation to make it work on every system they produce. It would just be nice if they did.

Dark_king957d ago

@rainslacker yes it can read CD's it has a dvd laser in there so that can read cd's.

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zeal0us958d ago

Well if they do come up with a solution you will more than likely have to re purchase the game, buy something to run the game itself or just pop out the old 3-6-0.

aquamala958d ago

why let you play the games you already bought when they can sell them to you again ?

ziggurcat958d ago

why play X360 games on the xbone when you already own an X360?

garos82958d ago

cause I wanna sell 360 to buy the over priced xbone.

cyguration958d ago

I still have a PS2, but playing PS2 games via PS3 hooked up to an HDMI compatible TV just makes more sense, no?

KonsoruMasuta958d ago

1)Because some people trade in their old consoles and put that credit towards new ones.

2)It would also be good for people who didn't own a 360 last gen but are going with the X1 this gen. They might want to buy some older titles they didn't get to enjoy last gen.

3) Your 360 RROD'd and you have a pile of games for it. It wouldn't make sense to buy a new 360 so close to the end of the console's life.

buynit958d ago

Cause i dont want a ps3, ps4,360 and xb1 all hooked up in my living room...

bleedsoe9mm957d ago

@buynit if you haven't played every single game over the last 8 years , ps+ means you almost have to keep the ps3 plugged in

hduce957d ago

@buynit Try having a Wii, Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Ps3, PS4, Ouya, and Pc hooked up to a Tv. Thank goodness for my 7.2 receiver and a hdmi splitter.

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nevin1958d ago

I never owned any Xbox system, but if I ever jump to Xone, It would of been nice to try out Original Xbox and 360 games.

Sony is bogus for not including BC. Not even PS1 games. All PS systems(PS1,PS2,PSP, PS3,PSV) has that feature but PS4.

creeping judas958d ago

PS3 had limited run of BC consoles. I believe they were the original phat 40 or 60 gb ones. Then they took the feature out, with a newer patch of PS3's. Can't recall why though?

nevin1958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

@creeping judas

Actually, my point at the end was just focusing on PS1 support. All PS systems can play PS1 games but PS4. PS3 still supports PS1.

Dark_king957d ago

They never patched out BC they just never added it to most of the models .The original 60 gig and 20 gig in the us had the ps2 EE chip and the original 80 gig in EU had software emulation.(I don't know if they patched out the EU Software emulation though).The reason they took it out was there was no money in it for them.Having the hardware in the system made it expensive,and coding a emulator really was not making them money.

HeavenlySnipes957d ago

The price of the console

The chip for emulating made the PS3 expensive

nunley33957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

I still own the 80gb phat ps3 BC model that came with motorstorm in 08,that was through emulation but all still play ps1 discs. Yeah it was never patched out and the Bc still works for any BC ps3 you can find out in the wild.I bought the memory card adapter for ps3 back then to use and copy my ps1&ps2 memory cards to ps3.

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rainslacker957d ago

I'm really hoping they bring back PS1 emulation through software. The PS4 should be more than capable. It should be able to run PS2 emulation software as well. I can understand PS3 emulation, so while it would be nice to have, I can understand them wanting to keep the price low.

If they ever come out with a premium model, or some sort of extra hardware that enables it(doubtful since there's no expansion port), I would buy it in a heartbeat. I still regularly play games from every generation.

Otherwise, Gaikai is going to be their answer, which is why I believe they didn't include it. In some way they will monetize it. I'm not sure how I feel about that, since I don't really know what their plans are, or how well it will be supported games wise, and if it will be priced reasonably.

cincychuck957d ago

It would be nice if they had an official PS1 and PS2 emulator on the PS4 store. I'd pay 10-20 dollars for that option. I'd love to play some of my old games since my PS2 died awhile back.

GSKerns958d ago

Whatever happened to that mythical Halo 4 cloud computing demo they did? They acted like backwards compatibility was only a matter of "when"... not "if".

BabyTownFrolics958d ago

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

Though it is possible there are as of yet there no confirmed plans

GSKerns957d ago

I would not be surprised if there was a bit of smoke and mirrors used in that demo

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