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Xbox One sells 2 Million Units in 18 Days

Xbox One sells 2 Million Units in 18 Days

Some solid numbers coming out of the global Xbox One launch last month:
2 Million Consoles sold through in 13-markets in the first 18-days
Over 83 million hours in games, TV, and apps on Xbox One since the system launched
39 million Xbox One achievements unlocked
595 million total Gamerscore achieved on Xbox One
At peak demand, customers were ordering the Xbox One console at over 1000 units per minute on Amazon.com (Xbox One)

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kataloni10  +   126d ago | Well said
congrats to MS ... its a good things for us gamers that both ps4 and xbox one sell is a succee :D
Naga  +   126d ago
Yeah, with the news of 2.1M sold on the PS4 side, I was getting pretty curious about the Xbox One numbers. These are some pretty high-flying numbers for both sides.

Things will get really interesting several months from now, after the initial launch pool of customers have dried up. When each console's staying power is put to the test, then we might start to see a winner emerge. At least for now, this one is far too close to call.
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Lalanana  +   126d ago | Well said
Only in 13 countries ..over 2 million sold.. That is pretty damn good. congrats Ms
DeathOfTheFanBoy  +   126d ago
We as gamers are the winners, doesn't matter which money hungry corporation sells the most units.
Charybdis  +   126d ago
Its good to see that the competition isn't one sided hopefully Microsoft and Sony will keep trying to one up each other.
Eonjay  +   126d ago
Question. Major Nelson says it sold through 2 million in 18 days. Others are saying its over 2 million. I think we should go by Major Nelson's statement as he does work for the company.
Naga  +   126d ago
Eonjay...

... was there actually a question in there?
Eonjay  +   126d ago
@onagao Lol yes I like exact numbers for my calculations Lol. I guess we know now that it wasn't sold out. If they had 1.5 sold as of 11/30/2013 that means that 500k sold over the last ten days. Unless they have an immaculate supply chain it can't be sold out.
DeadlyFire  +   126d ago
PS4 will win sales in the long run. Its cheaper, has stronger brand, and its matching everying XB1 can do and then some.

Still though sales numbers disprove Nintendo's theory of people not buying into next generation due to cost and bad economies.

PS4 sold 1 million in 2 countries at Nov. 15th launch. Euro launch landed Nov. 29th. They state on Dec. 1st 2.1 Million sold.

XB1 sold 1 million at its launch in 13 countries Nov. 22nd. Now on Dec 10th we hear XB1 sold 2 million.

Both Microsoft and Sony are heading towards outpacing WiiU by March if their sales don't pick up. Nintendo still has the price advantage.
JeffGUNZ  +   126d ago
@ Deadlyfire.

How can you say that? Right now it's $100 cheaper, but what will the prices be 4 years from now? Will their be a "slim" version of these consoles, different models, etc. It's very premature to make a statement like that less than a month after launch. All we know are these systems are selling much better at launch then we really expected. Kudos to both of them.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   126d ago | Well said
But N4G told me MS and the Xbox One are dead. And nobody was going to buy one that expensive and less powerful with Kinect.

LMAO at all the people eating crow on this one out there across the webz. Console gaming and the X1 are far from dead.
NewMonday  +   126d ago
@miDnIghtEr20C_SfF

everyone said the PS4 will outsell the XBone and it's happening, 5-3 in the USA and about 4-1 in parts of Europe, better to stay grounded instead of setting yourself up for disappointment.
DragonKnight  +   126d ago
@Lalanana: "only" 13 countries? Do you even math? 2 million in 18 days in 13 countries is not "pretty damn good." It's ok.
abzdine  +   126d ago
let's see how much truth there is into that knowing MS they do everything to show they're doing well.
PS4 sold 2,3 million in 14days, just for info, and i think X1 numbers are waaayyy too coincidential.

PS4 sold 1million in 2 countries, X1 1million in 13countries first week.
curious to see how much PS4 sold since release
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4Sh0w  +   126d ago | Well said
lol, NewMonday yes it is pretty damm good because all the blog hype and BS fanboys were predicting 4-1 crap, some still saying stupid predictions but here we are with the FACTS all proving different. That's exactly why I never believe n4g and those ridiculous blogs.

Congrats to microsoft.
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loulou  +   126d ago | Well said
Dragon knight

So, if 2m in 13 countries is just OK, then what is 2.1m in 30 countries??????

Help me understand your reasoning please
gaffyh  +   126d ago
Pretty good numbers tbh, now though is when you see the difference. When the pre-order's have been fulfilled, and you start to see whether the price is sustainable.
Saigon  +   126d ago
I am Sorry, Not trying to hate because it is good that MS did this but am I the only one that truly does not believe this. I mean it is possible, but with everything officially reported, the numbers do not add up. I am sorry MS and Major, but these numbers do not add up. I suspect that these numbers are shipped, since MS can track those numbers. This is not the defense force trying to down play these numbers, I am just being logical especially with everything reported.
zero_gamer  +   126d ago
Actually Xbox One is doing so damn well for a console so controversial and hated. It did much better than expected. You can at least give MS some credit for that.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   126d ago | Well said
Nope NewMonday.. people might of said that as well...but people doomed the X1 to fail, and that nobody would buy it with Kinect and a 100 bucks more.

If the more powerful console and less expensive console didn't outsell the X1, then there's a big problem for you Sony guys. Bad enough that the sales are this close when MS didn't release in as many territories as the PS4... plus the better overall launch games that the X1 has over the PS4.
pyramidshead  +   126d ago
I agree! Congrats to MS indeed.

Although it may be short lived come 2moro's article.

Should be a fun read ;p.
MorePowerOfGreen  +   126d ago | Well said
Look at the replies I was getting LOL

http://n4g.com/news/1410461...

Xbox One sells this much with less time being on the market compared to PS4 and way less countries than PS4. NA historically buys Xbox products at Christmas time like hotcakes, XB1 will prove "experts" & "Analyst" wrong.

Too many people and media falling for the anti XB1 smear campaign and infestation of PS4 fanboys in forums, blogs and comment sections.

Now off to see if IGN will even report on it.

Correct this if it's wrong. No funny numbers from PS4 fanboys.

Xb1 - 2mil in 18 days (13 countries)
Ps4 - 2.1 mil in 18 days 11/15-12/3 (32 countries)

Allocation to the bigger markets was smarter, even more so if both companies have made around the same amount of consoles. I have a feeling MSFT is making more consoles faster.
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gaffyh  +   126d ago
@MorePOG - We don't know PS4 numbers. So those comments you were getting could in fact be quite valid. You should wait until all the numbers are out before talking.
NewMonday  +   126d ago
@4Sh0w & miDnIghtEr20C_SfF

the reality is we now see XB1 fans lowering the bar adjusting to the new status quo.

it's not even close the 2.1m PS4 number was a combination of the first 2 day stats in USA+Europe, comparing numbers from different time frames looks desperate.

the PS4 IS outselling the XBone by 7-2 in some countries and 5-3 in the USA.

talk about eating crows
buynit  +   126d ago
At deadlyfire

The ps4 can not do everything the xb1can do especially not out the box...
ziggurcat  +   126d ago
@ loulou

"Dragon knight

So, if 2m in 13 countries is just OK, then what is 2.1m in 30 countries??????"

2.1m... with a 2 week gap between launches (NA on november 15, EU on november 29), and it hasn't even launched in japan yet.
karl  +   126d ago
well the xbox fanboys are finally coming out.

congrats to MS.. thats a great number
imt558  +   126d ago
Microsoft said that XO sold in 2 mil 10 DAYS AFTER Sony annouced they sold 2.1 mil. PS4's. Question is : HOW MUCH SONY SOLD PS4'S AFTER 2.1 MIL. ANNOUCEMENT?

Some people thing they are neck and neck in sales. I don't think so.
mikeslemonade  +   126d ago
Those numbers are shipped and funny how Major Nelson brings up the zombie stats again to back it up just because they are losing right now.

So we know from conclusive reports that PS4s can't stay on shelves while X1s are staying on shelves for some stores. Major Nelson can only be positive about how much they shipped but not sold.
nukeitall  +   126d ago
I actually find this hilarious!

Why?

I would like to say I told you so that the sales figures will be much closer than all the made up numbers of 5-to-1 ratio between PS4 and Xbox One.

Fact of the matter is that both consoles sell out as soon as they are available.

However, I remember last generation when people were using revenue (i.e. the amount of consoles sold times the price) to try claim this and that.

This is just the beginning, and the battles doesn't start until the console moving games start rolling in March, and the system matures more.

Right now, it is just the launch and holiday hype selling consoles.

However, this proves that PS4 and Xbox One is neck in neck sales wise even with the Xbox One being a $100 more expensive.

@dragonknight:

"@Lalanana: "only" 13 countries? Do you even math? 2 million in 18 days in 13 countries is not "pretty damn good." It's ok."

I guess according to you, it's just ok for Sony too?

Especially since the Xbox One cost a $100 more....
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mikeslemonade  +   126d ago
^Nuke

Who said 5 to 1? 3:2 and then 2:1 later.

Yes they're "neck and neck" in the time allotted 18 days. So you don't care who finishes a race first huh??

If I finish a 20k marathon in one hour while the other person finishes the 20k marathon in 3 hours, who is the better runner?

If PS4 sells out in a couple days while the reported X1s are still in stock in most stores but eventually sells out in 18 days, which is the more successful system?
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Ju  +   125d ago
PS4 is 2:1 in Europe and a little bit less in the US. But all in all in the US sales for both are so strong that supply bottle necks in fact evens out any advantage; well, it's still in about 500K over all - which is quite significant during relative low absolute numbers so far. It was clear that both will sell out what they can build. Sony can't really pull ahead - with theirs sold out in days what take MS longer; but basically both sell whatever they can make before they can restock.

Overall, this is a typical MS game. Taking a number we are familiar with (2M), removing some attributes (what's the cut in date?), adding some others ("18 days") and make it look like we are actually talking about the same thing. But in fact we are talking about different things.

Sony is ahead, MS isn't too far behind, so much I agree. But they are in fact behind in all markets. This is also a fact. And I doubt it's because MS can't make more than that - they have the cash to swamp the market if they have to.
ShinMaster  +   125d ago
PS4 = 2.1M over a week ago.

XBO = 2M in 18 days to date.

PS4 numbers haven't been updated for this week yet.
ToyboxDX  +   125d ago
So... PS4 2.1 million on Dec 1st whereas XBone up to 2 million on Dec 10.

There's a gap of 10 days meaning PS4 could be at 2.9 million by now?
AndrewLB  +   125d ago
Deadlyfire- Sony a stronger brand? Are you crazy? Microsoft is a FAR more powerful company than Sony.

http://finance.yahoo.com/ec...
Triella  +   125d ago
MS cannot be trusted with these figures, first of because there is no way they have manufactured  2m consoles, their own target shipment figures (not sold, shipped) for end of fiscal year 6.2 m (reduced from 7 m) proves that they can only manufacture an average of 620K a month. Therefore three months of production = 1.86m. And that is if you don’t take into account the problems of component supply they faced in September, the fact that the last two weeks of production are either not yet shipped, on their way, or waiting to be dispatched in distributors warehouses, and that Xbox Ones are still available by many retailers.
JokesOnYou  +   126d ago
Yeah good for them. After all the turmoil, doom n gloom predictions and even the real factor with the higher price still managing to sell so close to the competitions impressive high sales is a major accomplishment. Both are doing amazing compared to last gen so far. I and a few of my friends are really having a great time with X1. Keep it coming micro.

Good times for gamers.
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   126d ago
Not to say the doom and gloom is ok, but The "Competitor" 2.1 Million units in 48 hours. It took MS 18 days, but 2 million is 2 million regardless.
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Twilightx7  +   126d ago
@Cupid_Viper_3

"The "Competitor" 2.1 Million units in 48 hours"

Actually, Sony sold 2.1 million units in ~16 days (the period of time between 11/15 and 12/1, including the international market.)
tigertom53  +   126d ago
it was 2.1 million in 14 days..
snp  +   126d ago
Actually, Sony sold 2.1 million units in ~16 days (the period of time between 11/15 and 12/1, including the international market.)
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... sort of. It's really 'however many were sold in North America' over that full time, plus the number it sold where it was released in the rest of the world in only 1 or 2 days.
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GiggMan  +   126d ago
@Jokes, the "Doom and Gloom" had nothing to do with it. The RROD didn't kill the 360 and it's fans still supported it. I personally don't know anyone who didn't have a 360 die on them, including myself.

Bad press and PR doesn't stop a product (at least in the gaming community) It did however make it a race in the US where MS had the clear advantage. You can't find a PS4 anywhere and if there where more available it'll be more in the lead than what it is.
Eonjay  +   126d ago
As of 11/30/2014 PS4 had 2.1 Million. That is 15 days. Does it really matter though. Holla at me in one year. The real comparison is to see how long each takes to meet or exceed the Wii U.

By the way anyone looking for a PS4 or XBO can get it Sunday @ Gamespot. YOU MUST BE THERE WHEN THEY OPEN TO STAND A CHANCE.
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HiddenMission  +   126d ago
To all above who don't understand the 2.1 million in 48 hours it was in fact just that.

On the US/Canada launch they sold a million units in 24 hours. They sold all of those units so no sales until the next launch. You can't those days if there were no product on shelves to sell.

Next up came most of the rest of the world and another 1.1 million units sold on the that launch day.

That's a total of 48 hours of actually being in stock and on shelves.

So that's how you get 2.1 million in 48 hours.

With XB1 it had a global launch and did 1.25 ish in the initial 24 hours. There was still stock on shelves which did not sell on launch day.

The XB1's that were on shelves and did not sell took an additional 17 days to hit the 2 million mark.

Both numbers are great but the perspective is that one product actually ran out of stock and thus could not sell higher numbers while the other was in stock and continued to sell over 17 days but at a much slower rate.

This simply tells you about which is in higher demand by how fast a product sells out of stock.
snp  +   126d ago
del. got convoluted.
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DoubleM70  +   126d ago
Why do many disagrees on your comment. Nothing negative was said...SMH
JamieL  +   126d ago
Wow Hidden that was one hell of a spin. Did you apply this same formula to MS's sales?

This is to get you heated up and lose sleep tonight, "Sont sucks". There you go, now get mad and spin that, then get back on here and teach me a lesson.
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JeffGUNZ  +   126d ago
@ HiddenMission

Stop. Just stop. You count those days. Some logic on this site blows my mind. Both are selling very well kudos to that.
ABizzel1  +   126d ago
@EE against Cupid_Viper_3

His numbers come from the fact that the PS4 launched to over 1 million in NA, and launched to over 700k in EU, which brought it's total up to 2.1M between the 2 launches.

You guys are counting November 15th (NA only launch) - November 29th (EU launch) as the time frame for sales (aka 14 days).

He's counting the fact that the PS4 total sales came to 2.1 million from the launch weekend alone November 15 - 16 (48 hour launch for NA), November 29 - 30 (48 hour launch for EU), which is why he said 2.1 million in 48 hours. Which to be honest is actual way to look at it, since Sony couldn't sell more because they were only in NA at the time.

XBO on the other hand launched in all it's territories and it took them 18 days to get the same results.

Whatever spins your boat is up to you, but congrats to both.
ape007  +   126d ago
WOW the all in one approach worked wonders, which is the opposite of what i expected, MS is in better place than sony right now, they can introduce a kinectless X1 which will bring potential buyers, while the 500$ full xbox one still has great demand

they really done it
mrmarx  +   126d ago
i dont believe those numbers.
rainslacker  +   126d ago
Both systems sold good. Actual release dates don't matter this early in the life when they're so close.

If they both sold 2 million we can expect them to maintain that through the holiday and probably sell most of what they can supply.

In the end, it means both systems will be supported by third party, and neither is likely to fail unless there is a huge drop off of sales after initial launch demand dies down.
ALLWRONG  +   126d ago
Cupid_Viper_3 is proof that the bubble system fails.
4Sh0w  +   126d ago
HiddenMission I'm dizzy from reading that, when sony announces 2.1 mil it's everything they sold up until that point, not just their 2 launch days total, that would be as nine for them to not give total sales. So was ps4 scarce after both launches yes but so was X1. Both have sold out and both have had limited restock at bestbuys, walmart, amazon, just X1 has had better resupply it looks like. Either way 2mil sold vs 2.1mil sold doesn't matter the countries or launches both are selling very well.
Ju  +   126d ago
Err....PS4 sold 2.1M 11 days ago...So, we are thinking they haven't sold anything since?
mikeslemonade  +   126d ago
"The proof is in the pudding" Why else would Major Nelson say the zombie stats afterwards??

That's the number they shipped. It's conclusive that PS4 is sold out and higher demand while X1 is in a lot of store shelves. This actually disapproves a lot of zealot theory.. The theory that since X1 is doing a better job of supplying when in fact Sony is creating the same amount of supply if not better if you guy the 2 million "shipped/sold" so far.
Death  +   125d ago
@Mike,

Both are obviously selling as many as they can make. Both are hard to find, but the PS4 is harder to find. We won't know how long the demand can be sustained until both are readily available. Time will tell.
joeorc  +   126d ago
@kataloni10

Exactly, when both are selling this fast, it means a very good incentive for Developer's to keep support, Nintendo also with its 3DS are showing a very healthy mobile game console sale through number's, with the xbox360 and the PS3 also showing very strong number's. Game console's are showing strong market demand despite the massive market demand for Mobile and Tablet Smart devices.

@Mikelarry

100% agreement, with number's that all three console companies all having great sales through number's for the systems, there is good number's that keeps developer's interest in development for the platforms they release.

@Unreal01

this is something they could get into quite a bit of trouble, if they are not telling the truth to the investors. while Microsoft has not really been fast stating the sale through number's as fast as other companies may have had the number's faster, than Microsoft, its very doubtful that Microsoft is going to lie about these numbers. Really with the start of both Microsoft and Sony's start for this new generation of release system cycle barely shy of of the start of being on the 3 weeks from release, to just Lie about these number's when its just starting out. Long in the tooth sale through number's are really the goal in this whole thing to have sustained sales over time.

there is always good to have great sales number's off the bat, but its more important not having to pull a product off the shelf early like the PSPGo or the Zune before the company wanted too.
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vigilante_man  +   126d ago
Taking whether I believe MS on their sell-through numbers or not to one side for a moment I just gotta say it is amazing to be a new console owner!

I got my PS4 and waited a week till patches to open it. It is amazing! So fast, so sleek, so quiet (sometimes I only hear the HDD reading/writing) and it switches back and forth between tasks quicker than my heart beats.

The controller is from another planet and I even played with the vita as a controller and it rocks too. The videos in the store load so quick. It is better in nearly every way. What a massive difference.

And I guess you XB1 owners are feeling the same too. Yes, there are niggles that will get ironed out such as no MP3 support, Blurays movies do not play as good as PS3, and no money left for more games - it is christmas soom!

I have so many great games still to play on the PS3 but this PS4/Vita experience is so far ahead that I love next gen already!!!
beerzombie  +   125d ago
We are going to get some kick ass games because of this. Developers are going to be super charged and ready to make great games. The rest of the community can see that the Gamming Media are lazy liars who do not care about truth and gamers.
badz149  +   126d ago
source is majornelson.com?

major LOL! not saying he's lying or anything, just waiting for PS4's numbers from shuuheiyoshida.com!
HighResHero  +   126d ago
The PS4 numbers will be more interesting in a month or so because of its' current unavailability.

Edit: What I stated is a FACT, we won't know the real demand for EITHER console for several weeks after the current demand is met and official numbers are released.
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Volkama  +   126d ago
Yes, the source is essentially Microsoft. The only source with complete and valid sales figures.

I don't see how it's funny, but I may just be getting too old to appreciate this line of humour :|
SonyKong64  +   126d ago
it's funny because major Nelson has been caught lying numerous times over the years and yet desperato Microsoft slaves still take his word as gospel.

it's the definition of gullible..

what's more gullible, believing major Nelson or buying a picture of an Xbox for your 4 yr old son?
insomnium2  +   126d ago
@kong64

I agree. MS is also the only console manufacturer to have been caught channel stuffing by their own official financial statements.

Not saying it's not true but people should really take everything outside official financial statements with a huge grain of salt. Especially from MS. Let's see what they report in their following quartarly reports shall we.
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Jazz4108  +   126d ago
That man claimed the ps4 had no pulsing red light for overheating when the next day many people video taped it happening and he tweeted a major lie. I would not believe anything coming from Yoshida as the proof is easy to see. I am very happy to see both consoles selling as the industry as a whole depends greatly on this.
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showtimefolks  +   126d ago
early on whatever sony and ms can produce will sell out quickly and that's a very positive sign

it took wiiu a long time to sell even one million
Volkama  +   126d ago
The moral of the story is:

Sony and MS have pretty similar manufacturing capacity for their respective consoles.

The end.
snp  +   126d ago
Pretty much, yep.
Nicolee  +   126d ago
No !!! i won't accept it. we can't get along

end of story .

ps. just kidding lol
JackISbacK  +   126d ago
wow ,this news realy made my day,this shows how great the consoles are selling,both companies got it may be they both havent thought that the numbers will go this high after the stupid predictions of pather,first of all where is this patther shit is hiding,some body deliver my message to him that console gaming is not duying any soon but has only rysen,we gamers are not gona die so soon and more people are about to become gamers,yaha go gamers go make this stupid pather to bent on his knees ,its realy amazing ,i was realy sceared that at what amaount these xb1 is selling,it also could have been more people turning to buy ps4 so thats why the numbers may have rosen,but this news is a relief that bot are selling great and so far console sales,only of xb1 and ps4 combined may have crossed 4.5 and stupid pather was pridicting the sales of xb1 and ps4 to reach 5 millions combined and they both alone have crossed 2 millions in less than a month and these are the numbers when freat games have not launched on any of the consoels,and just imagine waht will be the numbers when games like titanfall,infamous ss ,quantum break,order 1886,project spark,fables legends,halo 5 and the 2nd wave of great multiplats will land on both sides and 70% gamers are waiting for games to land on both which all arev ready to buy in upcoming months what about those who will land on next gen at the late 2014 and 2015? future of gaming is bright.
DeadlyFire  +   126d ago
Now its Sonys turn to reveals numbers again.
Ghoul  +   126d ago
please condider one thing.

no publisher or manufacturer in the world can tell you how many units the customers bought. They simply lack the data, since most retailers dont hand them out.

what they can though is tell you how many THEY sold to the Retailmarket (every unit shipped to retail is a +1 in sales for the publisher even if it gets returned by the retail market).

same with sony and nintendo so dont bring up any famboy bullshit please

Every number about sales from the mothercompany is allways the units sold/shipped to Retail NOT how many units are at the consumers .
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rainslacker  +   126d ago
System sales can be tracked by tracking how many they sold to retailer, and when the user registers the system, so they can usually tell within a pretty small margin of error how many sold.

It's also very possible that they can assume how many are sold, since the big retailers will let MS and Sony know this information upon request, and it's safe to assume that since we know at least that the PS4 is on back-order that they can assume what is shipped is all but sold.

Otherwise, yeah, all companies used shipped numbers. For all intents and purposes, a shipped unit is sold to them.
Ghoul  +   126d ago
you are right, but not every system is registering or going online. Its as you said a rough but kinda accurate assumption.

i do share your point completly and i didnt say that theses numbers are not valid, hence i started with "please consider".

i just wanted to remind people that these are not official numbers even if its pretty close.

sorry for playing the nitpicker :D

bubble
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Death  +   125d ago
Retailers do not give up these numbers on request. That is why NPD exists. They are paying for this information and then sell it back to the various manufacturers. Walmart is one retailer that refuses to release their sales numbers. As for the registration theory, it would work better if this was not the holiday buying time with many consoles sitting under Christmas trees. You also have to take in consideration unauthorized resellers that are buying units to resell for higher amounts. Are you counting these as sold units also?

The bottom line is both are selling very well which is to be expected for this time of year. What was unexpected is the Xbox One selling this close to the PS4 with all the BS leading up to launch and the added retail price which places it $100 higher than the PS4. It launched a week later, has a higher price and is in less markets. That's impressive.
HaveAsandwich  +   126d ago
the question is, why. why are people buying an xbox one. seriously.
Keenoh  +   126d ago
Because I like playing with gamers that know when to use question marks?

Serious note, I like the exclusives they provide. Cost of the console nor the gimmicks of each provide I concern myself over.

If you can't understand why people are buying an Xbox and are unhappy because of this, you need to re-evaluate yourself and be more concerned with your own purchases.
timotim  +   126d ago
IMO The One is the better all-around system. Yeah, PS4 has its strong points too but when you talk gaming, entertainment, features, eco systems, and resources of the platform holders. I like MS and Xbox better.

I think The One is a little rough around the edges right now, but nothing that wont get worked out by the 3rd-5th system update. And when you look at the killer games line-up for 2014 (Project Spark, Titanfall, Fable Legends, Sunset OverDrive, Halo 5, Quantum Break, Black Tusk's game etc.), things are looking very good.
buynit  +   126d ago
Im with timotim...

Imo xb1 is the better over all console.

You can hate on kinect all you want, to me that just means you really didnt spend enough time with. Im loving how it controls my tv, cable box and surround sound... Feels a bit more next gen to me..

Plus its much easier to show it off to non gamers. I had company over and they was like you paid what.... To play games! They though i was weird.. I though they had to be aliens or some sh!t...

So we move on to the living room.... "xbox on" ( now they give me the real weired look) everything turns on and i put some music.. Start talking about the knicks and we get into a huge debate about it.. "xbox home" "tv" " watch espn" jaws drop.... Nothing on espn about the subject.. "xbox snap" "internet explorer" dis-beliefe....

Then i finish it all with xbox home as i get the controller " forza motorsport 5" i tripped over jaws at this point lol... I wish i had 2k!

Sorry for the rant but that was a great experience i had that only the xb1 can provide, it felt next gen.. Sure the tech has been around for ages in other forms but not many ppl experienced it quite like this...

Im not on that fanboy stuff... This is just my opinion, the xb1 is the better over all console... But i will be damned if i miss those ps4 exclusives and ideas
? Im also loving remote play on my vita. This gen will be awesome before its on to the next.
FLYINGDOG  +   125d ago
Because it have games, it play my tv, because it can record live tv with a Homeworx HW-150PVR, because it is a universal control, because it have Xbox live, because it have Skype, because it have Kinect and my kids love to move, now with 2 millions sold out more people to play online
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Re-versed  +   125d ago
I cant understand while people buy an inferior console for more money...I guess for the same reason a great percentence of americans think that Iraq is geografically in Australia..
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   126d ago
Why is it a good thing that both PS4 and Xbox1 succeed?
Mosiac77  +   126d ago
The more Sony and Microsoft sale the quicker developers will start concentrating on the new generation
callahan09  +   126d ago
At this point it looks as though the PS4 + XBO combined have outsold the Wii U, already. Just a couple of weeks into launch for the new machines and they have already outsold the Wii U which has been out for more than a full year and gone through an entire extra holiday season than the PS4 and XBO have. Why combine PS4 + XBO to compare to Wii U? For the reason you should combine PS3 + 360 to compare to the original Wii. Given the huge divide in hardware specs between the PS3/360 and Wii, and now the PS4/XBO and Wii U, developers look at these platforms as targets for their games in terms of either developing a Wii title or a PS/Xbox title. Games like Battlefield 4, they get made for the PS/Xbox series of consoles, the ones with the more power and fully-featured online capabilities, and they are not targeted to the Wii series of consoles. There's a reason for that, and it isn't just power of the machines and features available. It is also combined install base. Targeting PS/Xbox actually DOES have a larger combined install base than targeting Wii. There is also a higher attach rate for PS/Xbox than there is for Wii. And finally, you have the extra power and capabilities. The fact that the new generation of PS/Xbox machines is still doing so well compared to the Wii means that developers still have incentive to target those more powerful machines for their projects, which means we're locked in for another generation of having tons of third party content coming to the PS/Xbox that are left totally behind on the Wii U. Good news for anyone who bought a PS/Xbox.
TAURUS-555   126d ago | Trolling | show
kewlkat007  +   126d ago
Wow..I gotta say after..

-DRM-GATE
-180s
-Damage controlling
-New restructuring within the company
-$100 more than competition
-Launched in 29 less countries than competition

I'm somewhat surprised.
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Games_R_Us  +   126d ago
Its great to see people supporting the consoles. Whether its PS4 or XB1, buyers make my day. Now only wish people would pick up a Wii U so Nintendo doesn't exist the market lol.

Well done MS on a great turnaround and achievement.
Bigpappy  +   126d ago
Wow. These people prefer the VGcartz numbers. Lots of negative wishes here for X1 to fail. I think M$ is in a very, very strong position and will only get stronger as more people see the console in action. It will attract more than just core gamers, and that is a huge plus for M$ and developers.

We are going to see some new concepts come to X1 because it has all these included features in every box. Kinect and the second OS with the ability to run apps in a separate window, is going produce some things no one was expecting. Some developers are going to play around with this stuff, because its there, and find some really cool things to do in that second window, just as they will with Kinect.
ma1asiah  +   126d ago
I am going to add my congrats MS to this very awesome news.

Very awesome to hear that both consoles have started off with a great such a great start.

Great news for developers also who may have been afraid of big the install base would be at launch for both next gen consoles.
StoutBEER  +   126d ago
Wii U is my next purchase just for Super Mario 3D Land. Looks like the killer app has finally arrived!
MusicSurfer  +   125d ago
I love my PS4 but just picked up an one tonight... NO bias or fanboyism.... The one has blown me away!!!! Wow.... Amazing interface and gaming... I played dead rise for hours... I am shocked how amazing this system is!!!!
otherZinc  +   125d ago
Sales will be important 3 months from now. That's when the games will begin to sell the consoles as all of the loyalists on both sides will have a PS4 or XBOX ONE.
dj3boud  +   125d ago
Somehow I cannot believe it
DaGrim  +   125d ago
To be perfectly honest I'd like to see the numbers of active users, not the one sold, because these numbers could also be referring to the ones currently in stock at retailers worldwide.

Beside that, Kudos for both consoles, its going to be a well balanced fight :)
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Mikelarry  +   126d ago
And some say console business is going the way of the dodo birds
HighResHero  +   126d ago
Now watch them pretend they never said what they did.
ltachiUchiha  +   126d ago
I can almost guarantee that these are shipped numbers but hey leave it microsoft to find a way to keep the hype going. Just kinda odd dont u think when reading in every area the competitor is actually selling 2 to 1 & even 3.5 to one in most areas in sales but the xbone is at 2 million all of a sudden lol. Just sounds fishy but ill tip my hat to microsoft if this is true.
GrizzliS1987  +   126d ago
nvm
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Volkama  +   126d ago
I'm not one of the people predicting doom for consoles, but there is still a long way to go before we can say console sales are not in decline.

Selling 2 million quickly is not in any way an indication that the consoles will still appeal to the other 80million+ it'll take to match last gen.

Still, 10 million sales to actual gamers used to be the golden "this console will get continued support" number back in the days of the dreamcast. If that's still remotely applicable we'll be OK :)
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badboy776  +   126d ago
McDonald's must've helped.
headblackman  +   126d ago
and taco bell must've helped with the ps4's sales numbers
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tigertom53  +   126d ago
ONLY X1 14,000 units at McD.. LOL
joshmille99  +   126d ago
Don't forget Doritos/Mountain Dew
ragincrinz  +   126d ago
these are not sales
joshmille99  +   126d ago
@ragincrinz

Their called jokes.
JackISbacK  +   126d ago
wow man you are realy stupid,n4g must look for these immature people to join n4g
EasilyTheBest  +   126d ago | Well said
Well done Microsoft, congratulations.

OMG ! I'm getting disagrees for congratulating Microsoft, how sad can people get...
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hollabox  +   126d ago
Trollers who don't have nothing else to do while living in their momma's basement.
malokevi  +   126d ago
Sad that their parent's will only agree to buy them one console.

"Jealousy is the suspicion of one’s own inferiority."
christocolus  +   126d ago
OMG....lmao...i dont know why some psfans are upset over this news. This is one of the many reasons i never try arguing with most of them on n4g. I congratulated ms and said they deserved this.. and some fanboy called me crazy ..lol.. i cant stop laughing, i was happy when sony announced their figures and ms has done same now and these guys are pissed? They dont want the xbx to sell or get close to sonys nos..wth..

The weird thing about this is that most of them are so ignorant..they feel the majority of xbx fans are those found on n4g, neogaf and reddit.so when these sales numbers are announced they decide its a lie cos all they do is keep basing their figures on the ratio of xbx and ps fans on n4g and neogaf....smh
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Stsonic  +   126d ago
Why is it so hard to believe that people simply don't like a particular brand?
Trekster_Gamer  +   126d ago
its not that its hard to believe its just childish trolling on Sony fanboy part what do you not understand???
Rainstorm81  +   126d ago
Wait its childish to not like a brand? So all these people that hate EA are childish? Or is it only when people hate MS

In my Opinion people can hate whatever they like, it doesn't affect my likes or dislikes
TAURUS-555  +   126d ago
stosnice is true...some ppl just dont like MS..
edgeofsins  +   126d ago
I disagreed because you make a non discussion post we see too many of in order to be one of the first to comment to get agree's or pluses which is supported by the fact that you edit your post to rage at the disagrees you get. Why do you care?

I for one still don't like Microsoft. They don't listen to consumers until they get insane backlash for it. Even when windows 8 consumer demo was out and everyone hated it they basically didn't fix anything. Now they are slowly getting closer to releasing the classic taskbar which programs fixed after only a couple weeks. They just really don't care. They want to ditch windows 7 by not giving it directx11.2 just because they want windows 8 sales but they don't want to please the windows 8 users that bought into it. It's not even a company anymore. It's like a charity. You just throw money at them for reskining something 10 years old and not fixing the problems in a simple update. There's a huge reason developers are slowly trying to phase out DirectX and even Windows.

But you're more into the console side of the company which is getting to be even worse and I'm ashamed people can just forgive people who wanted to screw you over in the first place. If it happens for there next console and people still buy it then it's obvious that their market is irresponsible.
EasilyTheBest  +   126d ago
If your reply was too me I really ain't raging as you say about the disagrees I am getting for congratulating Microsoft on their great sales numbers, I'm not raging one bit, I just think its pathetic. Its a load of cry babies really.
You have your reasons for not liking Microsoft that's fine, just like its fine I have my reasons for not liking Sony because of how I have been treated by them in the past...
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G20WLY  +   126d ago
^Maybe some disagreed because they don't feel that Microsoft have done particularly well.

You don't have to sit firmly in one camp to have an opinion on that.

While I'm sure there are some fanboys disagreeing for the sake of it, you're sinking to their level to assume ALL disagrees come from an irrational minority.
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H0RSE  +   126d ago
The only case you have for the assumption for MS wanting to "screw" the console community, is if you have evidence proving that not only they knew their intentions were malicious, but that was their intent, and proceeded as planned - like a restaurant deliberately serving toxic waste to a customer, not due to cutting corners or not caring, but because they know the toxic waste is harmful.

From what I have gathered, they were definitely out of touch with the community with their initial policy reveal, but they they seemed genuine. That is, despite the backlash, that wasn't their intent. It was a mixture of a bunch of things - they revealed their polices at the wrong time, they didn't explain them in-depth enough and had poor communication with the community, they simply were not expecting the level of backlash they received.

They may have had horrible polices, but I don't think they deliberately made them horrible, and then proceeded to force them down our throats.

Besides, if you want to screw someone over, you don't usually announce your plans publicly. Didn't you watch James Bond movies? That is like the classic bad guy mistake.
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edgeofsins  +   126d ago
@H0RSE

Their DRM policies were already leaked. They also revealed everything in interviews when asked questions about it. They couldn't hide any of the policies if they tried.

The evidence that MS doesn't care to do things the way consumers want to do it is in their history and that goes for everything, not just their console history. It's been going on for Windows users and Microsoft takes years to address anything even when they are still working with the same software for over a decade. Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with an update and a changed UI. Windows 7 is just Vista with an update. All their OS packages are overpriced, 32 bit and 64 bit is practically a scam just like XBox Live's subscription fee that doesn't even add anything to the service. Also, look into some PC experts review of Windows Ultimate versus basic. It's practically useless to upgrade to it and the scheme is that naming it something that sounds better and telling the average person that it gives more functionality, which it practically doesn't, gets them an extra bit of undeserved money for the same experience but at a higher cost. This money grabbing technique even translates to consoles. They try to make Live sound like it has extra functionality over PSN when in reality PS3 exclusives had been hosting more reliable game servers far more often while XBox Live was mostly hosted on the customers connections, meaning you pay to access being able to host a match on your own internet connection. More money grabbing techniques. Not including near necessary add-ons with the console itself such as rechargeable batteries, wifi(when it first launched and they had a cheap wifi adapter that cost $100 at the time), LIVE subscription, and even the no hard drive on their really cheap 360 packages they had so people had to eventually get an official hard drive for it which was heavily overpriced as well(20 Gigs went for $70 even when used). They even do contracts to get a console like a cell phone service does. They explore every business tactic that traps a customer into buying more.
Hank_Schrader  +   125d ago
Yes you should get disagrees.
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   126d ago
Congrats to MS. Can't wait til March, so I can get mine.
JoseV76  +   126d ago
Me either, waiting to see get one on my BD in January!
bleedsoe9mm  +   126d ago
i'm sure ms is hoping for a titanfall march surge in sales
phoenix_dusk  +   126d ago
Lies.
Unreal01  +   126d ago
I agree with you. I genuinely think this is a lie. It's a shame because I get the feeling we're just going to see fictional sales numbers throughout this entire generation, at least from Microsoft.
thrust  +   126d ago
Your name suits you!
NiteX  +   126d ago
But they can't put it on the internet if it isn't true!
Unreal01  +   126d ago
Haha. Coming from someone called "thrust". What, are you like 12 years old?
mhunterjr  +   126d ago
Why is it a lie? Because it's too close to Sony's numbers?

It's simple supply and demand. Sony's ps4 is in higher demand, but they are having issue keeping up with demand.

Ms' console isn't as popular, but it is still very popular, and their supply chain appears to be much more fluid than Sony's

It's been widely predicted that both manufactures would sell through whatever they could produce in 2013. That's why the whole "it took 13 countries for ms to reach 1mil while Sony did it in 2 countries" argument makes no sense. MS couldn't sell more than they shipped on that day. Sony is now in 31 countries, but are only at 2.1. Like Ms, they can't sell more than they ship.
Convas  +   126d ago
LOL @ Unreal's dig at Thrust.

You realize that Thrust is an actual scientific principle right? 1 of the 4 pillars of the physics of flight?

Who's mind is really in the gutter here?
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JeffGUNZ  +   126d ago
Why is it a lie? Funny, it's sold out everywhere I go. It's very popular, regardless of what you want to believe. It's funny, they seems to be full in stock at stores Sony fanboys shop at, but people who actually want to find an X1 to buy can't find them anywhere. What are the odds of that...
ape007  +   126d ago
you wish it is.....NATE.....lol
DynDasE  +   125d ago
I don't believe any sale figures directly from their companies too; from Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo.

Nevertheless, I can still find Day One edition near my place or some online store.
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NYC_Gamer  +   126d ago
That's awesome a 500 dollar console selling 2 million in 18 days and X1 is only available in 13 countries
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ape007  +   126d ago
the all in one idea worked very well, i didn't expect that at all, i expected X1 to get slaughter by ps4 which was released with the same time with it and 100$ cheaper

the unthinkable happened, people liked the all in one thing
-Foxtrot  +   126d ago
These are the same people who said the Xbox One was sold out across all retailers when it wasn't....

http://n4g.com/news/1406085...
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Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   126d ago
I'd say they're legit.
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bessy67  +   126d ago
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
timlot  +   126d ago
A big company like MS with million of investors can't just release false numbers like that. NPD numbers for the U.S hit tomorrow.
Nujabes_  +   126d ago
Exactly. These fools don't realize Miscrosoft CAN'T lie about sales numbers.
NegativeCreep427  +   126d ago
Can a huge global corporation out-right lie and get away with it at least for a little while, its possible (e.g. Enron).

Can a huge global corporation "cook the books" so to speak and just misrepresent themselves or certain metrics to the public and investors, it happens all the time (e.g. grouping shipped figures with actual sold-through figures and presenting them as one).

I'm just pointing this out for the sake of argument. I know regardless the Xbox fanboys will disagree me to hell.
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Nitrowolf2  +   126d ago
You really think companies don't lie to their investors?

LOLOLOLOL
What do you think the whole Surface RT Investor Lawsuit is all about??

I'm not saying they didn't see 2 million, because wow is it really that hard to believe that they did? It's been 18 days guys, not that hard to believe they went from around 1.5 at launch to to 2 mil.
Biggest  +   126d ago
We know that companies, Microsoft in particular, lie to their investors. However, what does that have to do with this topic? Larry Hyrb is not Microsoft. He can say whatever he wants. Remember flipping a switch?
H0RSE  +   126d ago
So huge corporations like MS can lie about numbers and/or "cook the book," but companies like Sony - completely legit and 100% accurate...

This whole mindset that MS are the greedy money whores who don't care about customers, and Sony are working to cure world hunger, is comical.

MS and Sony both want your money. The difference is that Sony essentially puts up a front and pretends it doesn't, and that it's intentional are somehow noble.
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Oner  +   126d ago
Microsoft HAS lied about "sold" numbers in the past (twice that I remember). It's called channel stuffing and "Sell In" vs "Sell Through" here is the most comprehensive explanation of how they did ~

http://informationarbitrage...
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aviator189  +   126d ago
If you read their statement, they never said the xbox one was sold out at ALL retailers, just that the x1 was "sold out at retailers across" the globe.
There's a difference.
And these stats are carried over to investors. Microsoft cannot lie to investors/shareholders of their stock.
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Nitrowolf2  +   126d ago
They can, and have done in the past. It's whats happening with the surface and when they released their quarterlys it showed otherwise to what they were saying.

Not saying 2 million is a lie, becasue 18 days that's very possible, especially since they were at about 1.5 million at launch.

Just saying a company has to be truthful to it's investors is not true at all. ALL companies have lied to their investors.
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aviator189  +   126d ago
@Nitrowolf2

Show me a link that states that they lied about their surface sales.
All I know is they kept quiet about their sales, people assumed they sold decent but that wasn't a reality.
Go ahead, show me an instance with proof that they actually lied about their sales of a particular product they released.
Nitrowolf2  +   126d ago
http://betanews.com/2013/08...

"issued materially false and misleading statements regarding the Company’s financial performance and its tablet computer, the Surface RT" -- or to put it in laymen's terms, the company lied about the poor demand and sales of Surface RT, and about the earnings related to the tablet."

Basically it was the info reflected from the second quarter that they gave investors and when third quarter came the numbers that were reported in second weren't matching up with the info given in 3rd qaurters (they had an inventory that they shouldn't have had due to second quarters statements, thus the huge right-offs). Sure it's "alleged" but you can't look the other cheek and tell me that what they said in the second quarters even rometely matches the statements in third.

Like I said, these sales figures are probably true, but this is "lying to investor" is a common practice. It's called buying a product more time so investors don't just chuck it away the moment it releases. There is nothing stopping a company from lying to their investors. If they Lie, they are looking for time like I stated. In the time they get (the next quarterly report) they have a chance to recoup their losses and report much better numbers. It's when things don't go that way they get caught and lawsuits like that happen.
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tiffac008  +   126d ago
Here you go brother, I never knew about this either till Nitrowolf2 mentioned it here.

http://www.zdnet.com/class-...

Edit: Oops beaten to it but being on-topic, I doubt MS made these X1 numbers up. Like Sony they can still track the sales of their consoles because the supply is still relatively small.
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aviator189  +   126d ago
@nitrowolf

if you actually do some research, microsoft never released statements on official numbers.
that lawsuit is just because some investors did not see the outcome they were hoping to see.
their lawsuit is not based off of hard numbers.
if it was based off actual released hard numbers on surface sales, this lawsuit would have been blown up much more than it was.
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tiffac008  +   126d ago
^Releasing numbers to the public is one thing but to your investors is another.

I have never heard of a company keeping their numbers from their investors.
slate91  +   126d ago
Lol, youre so cute ^ ^
-Foxtrot  +   126d ago
I am
GamerzElite  +   126d ago
Source is majornelson.com hmmm
jackanderson1985  +   126d ago
he's a mouth piece for MS... considerably better than VGchartz who've had a history of dodgy data
polow got sol  +   126d ago
I heard that quantum break showing at vgx shifted about 150k
Unreal01  +   126d ago
Lol. I don't know if you're joking or not.
KNWS  +   126d ago
Microsoft is beginning to catch up to Sony quickly now and they only sold in 13 countries compared to 32 countries with Sony.

Sorry Sony fans your so called domination was a myth among you guys.

The console launched with barely any issues and it works great. Sony fans it didn't fail sorry to tell you!
TheEnigma313  +   126d ago
Sony is still out of stock, try again. Reaching much?
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KNWS  +   126d ago
Microsoft had better games at launch than Sony and will also in 2014. Did you really think people would not buy the console when it had great games, better UI, dedicated servers, more functionality, and hardly any faults with the hardware?
TheEnigma313  +   126d ago
Please tell me where PS4s are sold right now. You can't find one anywhere. The supply and demand is crazy for it.
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Mega24  +   126d ago
@KNWS explain this faulty hardwar http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also many reports of machine having horrible memory dump, making the UI move at 1 frame per second. Stop living in your fantasy fanboy world, every electronic machine has its problems, either be hardware or software.
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ragincrinz  +   126d ago
x1 is still out stock till next year
Flames76  +   126d ago
How you figure they are out of stock?Gamestp and walmart where i live has the PS4 in stock.yet they have had 3 shipments of the X1 and are sold out.Just because the Xbox One slaughtered the PS4 on black friday and has caught them in sales with just 13 countrys compared to 35 countrys.Dont be putting false pathetic crap on here.
Bolts-N-Rays1109  +   126d ago
Why you got start this?
Bennibop  +   126d ago
The figures don't add up, when we know that PS4 has outsold x1 in every market except Australia and PS4 has released in more countries!
jackanderson1985  +   126d ago
can you confirm that it sold more in every country... we know they had a better launch number in a majority of the countries but MS was out in the UK for an extra week so maybe MS caught up the 90k dif in that week?
Unreal01  +   126d ago
@Bennibop

Thank god, finally some sense. It's either a lie, or it just means Sony has sold way more than we thought.
mhunterjr  +   126d ago
The numbers add up because you have no idea what the shipment sizes in each of theose 31 countries are. Sony is sitting at 2.1 million, with 1 million of that in NA alone. That means that those remaining 1.1million is being divided between 29 countries. (Avg of 38,000 per country)

MS' allotment sizes are much larger because they are only in 13 countries at the moment. (Avg of 154,000 per country) Both are selling out. Which one sells out faster doesn't really matter in terms of today's numbers. Out of stock is out of stock.

Note: the allotment sizes will generally be far off from the averages, with both companies, naturally, focusing more consoles to more populated markets. But it does provide an element of perspective.
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Bennibop  +   126d ago
Pre orders of PS4 were higher than X1 in the UK. We also know that Ps4 had better sales /pre orders in all countries where both were releasing with the exception of Australia which had very little PS4 Stock. PS4 Sold 80k in Spain alone with a month long back log of pre orders out selling x1 3.5-1. I just have problems with Microsofts supposed sales figures as we know from 360 launch they were counting replacement consoles etc.
Flames76  +   126d ago
How you figure that?The Xbox One slaughtered the PS4 on black friday 2 to 1.Which the X1 has now passd the PS4 in america in sales even though the PS4 launched a week earlier.Not only that the PS4 launched in 35 countrys and the X1 launched in 13 still catching the PS4 in sales.So please stop with these pathetic attempts like this
Bennibop  +   126d ago
@Flames76 'The Xbox One slaughtered the PS4 on black friday 2 to 1.Which the X1 has now passd the PS4 in america in sales even though the PS4 launched a week earlier'

Show me the links where that has been reported.
moparful99  +   126d ago
@Flames
First of all that whole "X1 slaughtered Ps4 on black friday" was an independent SURVEY of only 13, 000 people at walmart and target.. No official black friday figures were released..

Secondly the PS4 is the leading console in North America, UK, Spain, Germany, and France.. if not for supply constraints we wouldnt be having this conversation.. But hey keep spinning those facts its clearly working /s
iamnsuperman  +   126d ago
I hate to be that guy but both have been very keen at launch to say "sell through" (to point out in consumer hands rather than retailer). Why hasn't he said it here. I think this is the shipped number considering we know the PS4 outsold the One in almost every region bar Australia (I didn't want to bring this up, as for Microsoft is doesn't really matter, but as you did)
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jackanderson1985  +   126d ago
if you read his actual blog he has indeed said "sold through"

here's a link for ya so you don't even have to do much work

http://majornelson.com/2013...
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iamnsuperman  +   126d ago
@jack. Your right. I stand corrected
InTheLab  +   126d ago
So you think the PS4 stopped selling after hitting 2m?
stuna1  +   126d ago
Exactly! Sony is probably sitting somewhere past 2.5 million units by now.

Edit: It has already been stated that the PS4 has as big as a 500,000 console lead in the US alone, and it's already known that the Xbox1 was outsold in Europe.
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mhunterjr  +   126d ago
Actually, yes... Because Sony hasn't been very quick to restock.
Flames76  +   126d ago
I say the hardcore fans that wanted a PS4 already has one so yea the demand has died down.The X1 on the other hand with the 8 exclusives at launch and being more than a game machine the demand is crazy for it.To be honest selling 2.1 million in 35 countrys is pathetic.While the X1 has sold over 2 million in 13.Can only imagine how it will be once the X1 come sout in the other 19 countrys next year
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G20WLY  +   126d ago
^LOL @ you Flames!

So what, more countries = more expected sales now? smdh

Ever consider manufacture/restock rates? And do you think every country got an equal number of units?

Your logic, sir, is flawed beyond repair... :/
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DanielGearSolid  +   126d ago
Sony hit 2.1mil 6-8 days ago....

And then wat? They just stopped?

I cant wait to see your reaction when Ps4 and X1 release in Japan
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Volkama  +   126d ago
I don't care at all about how anybody's face looks when a console releases in some other territory. Literally, absolutely zero anticipation for that event.

I am quite looking forward to Christmas though.

Am I doing life wrong?
JackISbacK  +   126d ago
oh man ,just go to internet they said 2.1 millions were sold till the end of november and xb1 was able to ship 2millions in 18 days ,both numbers are great and have fun,there is no need of control because there is no damage,so for what your comment looks is like a damage control,remember therre is no need both are selling great.
TheFallenAngel  +   126d ago
Yea but when they announced 2.1 mil was with 14 days in the US and 2 days in the rest of the world.
listenkids  +   126d ago
What are you talking about?
skoorydook  +   126d ago
Both console launched with their fair share of faults, there is proof of this so stop telling lies.

Your better games at launch argument means very little to sales of consoles as the best selling games on both are 3rd party and having the best games in 2014 is completely down to a matter of opinion.
Underworld  +   125d ago
Beginning to catch up? Lol, Sony announced they sold 2.1 million PS4s back on December 1. What, do you think they haven't sold anymore PS4s since then? Lol. We don't know what the PS4s numbers are right now. But from what I've read it's over 500k in front.

Sony sold 2.1 million after just 15 days in NA and just 2 days in all its other markets. It took the X1 18 days in all 13 markets to reach 2 million.

And just because Sony released in 32 markets doesn't mean they have a lot more stock to sell. They both could have had around the same supply. Sony may have just decided to spread it across 32 markets, while Microsoft may have decided to just focus on 13.

And Sony or Microsoft can't sell more than what they have available. Here in Australia you can not find a PS4 anywhere and if you preorder now you won't receive it till early 2014. You can still get a X1 though.

Both will sell well, but I believe PS4 will remain in front.
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MikeGdaGod  +   126d ago
ha! yeah right!
Nujabes_  +   126d ago
Sony posts sales numbers: "Yeah, awesome!

Microsoft posts sales numbers: "Fake!"

Only on N4G.
Hergula  +   126d ago
I know how you feel.
G20WLY  +   126d ago
How? Have you been touching him? :P

On topic, you have to consider recent activity to understand why some (not saying me) suspect MS of lying.
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-Foxtrot  +   126d ago
Probably because all MS have done since the Xbox One reveal is lie...maybe thats why people are sceptical

It's not like people just hate it for the sake of it
Nocando  +   126d ago
Actually, it is like that. Now go back to playing Knack.
HighResHero  +   126d ago
I was hoping they'd release some more zombie stats.
-Foxtrot  +   126d ago
@Nocando

Oh yeah sure....oh wait yeah I don't have a PS4 do I

They are actually out of stock over here
B1663r  +   126d ago
If the mods don't get on this thread and start popping some troll bubbles soon, im done with N4G. I lost a bubble for saying the X1 is selling just as well as the PS4.
EasilyTheBest  +   126d ago
True right Nujabes. This site is pathetic. Its over run.
aviator189  +   126d ago
That's the internet for you..
Sh0ckWav3  +   126d ago
wow, 18 days already..
Shinox  +   126d ago
How !?
Are people really forgot what happen in may 2013 , this right here proves how dumb the humanity becomes these days for buying an expensive inferior system .
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WeAreLegion  +   126d ago
People don't care. Even if they felt betrayed by it at first, they've forgiven Microsoft. They'd rather just forget the whole thing happened. Again...people don't care. That's just how they are.

/or/

They didn't know about it.

EDIT: @Shinox - If we learned from the past, we would have only had one World War.
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Shinox  +   126d ago
What makes them so sure that M$ wont back to this kind of business strategies , I mean HELLOOO its Microsoft !? are people really have this kind of trust on this company after they making deals with NSA recently , I'm done with the human kind , too much stupidity to handle these days , what can i say Ignorance is a gift .
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Blaze929  +   126d ago
@Shinox and you think Sony is just telling the NSA, "no"? You got your sights on the wrong people. Start attacking your government.

" I mean HELLOOO its Microsoft"

what does THAT, even mean?
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IcicleTrepan  +   126d ago
the free market will decide if it's 'inferior', not you.
Shinox  +   126d ago
Gamers with any kind of mental will decide , Not you or the so called "market" .
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Keep Supporting them , you will notice that later ↓↓↓
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Blaze929  +   126d ago
something happened...they fixed it, why are you still acting like an abused baby?
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edgeofsins  +   126d ago
Abused people take it and deal with it. Which is what the people that know what Microsoft has done and is doing and was going to do and how many times they lied about it but still bought the X1 are.

Nothing is fixed. It's only covered up.
Nocando  +   126d ago
You mean when MS tried to introduce a new way of doing things in order for devs and publishers to get paid for their product as opposed to a huge percentage of gamers waiting for a used copy from Gamestop? And an always on, stable network? And family sharing? The list goes on.
Don't be so quick to call everyone dumb, because in my experience people that say that are usually not that bright.
edgeofsins  +   126d ago
You mean when they tried to lock in consumers from not being able to return games they didn't like and if they wanted to get a used game or sell it they had to pay a fee to Microsoft and go through a long process? Are you trying to say having every console connected at once makes the whole network more stable? More traffic does this? Since when?
Please learn what family sharing really was. It is no where near a hype-worthy feature but I guess people like to grasp on to something not that important and try to justify a $500 purchase that is created by one of the least credible companies. It's like the cross-game chat hype. What's so special? It's nice. That's it.
Indeed. You shouldn't be so quick to call everyone dumb.
jessupj  +   125d ago
Anytime some blind person talks about MS's draconian DRM as "innovative" or "trying to do something new" a little baby rabbit dies.

And you're fooling yourself if you think that profit was going to the publishers. The majority of those fees would be going directly to MS.

And we now know that family sharing was a glorified demo. The fact that you bring that up says to me you're grasping at straws.

Don't be so quick to defend MS's greedy policies and their incompetent PR, because in my experience people that blindly do that are usually not that bright.
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coolvibu93  +   126d ago
Why would Microsoft revert back to their Drm strategies when everybody has vocally against it? If they were to revert at a later time, say 2015, then they would just kill all their 2016 and beyond sales. Duh! It's not gonna happen.

And you're the one thinking humanity is dumb. Ha!
jessupj  +   125d ago
Why would MS revert? You think that's a dumb question do you?

Maybe the question you should be asking yourself is why didn't MS change the policies back when Adam Orth opened his mouth?

Or when more rumors came out after that?

Or during the initial reveal?

Or when the official fact sheet came out a few days after the reveal?

Or the weeks leading up to E3 when even the casuals and non-gamers were making jokes about how stupid and greedy MS are?

Or during E3?

Or right after E3 when Sony absolutely humiliated them just before?

The internet was very "vocal" that whole time yet MS completely ignored them. They only changed their policies when the first pre-order numbers where coming in.

We've also heard on more than one occasional how MS is "committed to their original vision" and they condescendingly think consumers just weren't ready for their draconian DRM.

MS has proven they don't give a dam what the consumer thinks so I have no idea why you think even suggesting that MS might eventually bring back their DRM when the install bass is big enough and said install bass are too invested in their console to switch sides is so outrageous.

It's ironic you mentioning humanity and how dumb they are.
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coolvibu93  +   125d ago
@jessupj

The gaming and internet community is known for complaining about every single insignificant thing. Oooh! They changed this character's hair color! Complain! Just take YouTube's recent change. I saw so many people complain on forums and on the YouTube videos. For a week it was impossible to see a video without the 'Bob is building an army' spammed everywhere. Now, no one even mentions it anymore. People complain and complain, but in the end, many people change their minds when the product arrives (e.g COD breaking world records every year, except this one, due to new console launches)

What, you think they're just some gutless wimps that don't stick up for ideas that they believe in, whether it is the best or not? You expected to change their visions that they were planning for years and invested research time and money over a ‘tweet’? That’s a joke! They changed in less than a month, which is a lot better than many companies. And you say MS only changed because of the preorders than ps4. How do you know? They changed their policies in less than ONE month. Barely any data about pre-orders were gathered then, and only about the USA. And doesn’t that just shows that they are listening as they changed BECAUSE they saw their fans deserting them, meaning they care about the fans? Well, it’s probably also about the profits to be honest. But if you think the high executives at Sony and Nintendo are any different then you are delusional.

If you really believe that MS only cares about money and that they would revert, it would show you don’t think things through. What would they gain from reverting again, honestly? If they really only care about profit, like you claim, switiching would again cause outrage/confusion in people. Less people would buy their console , and MS would have to spend more money advertising/promoting/etc. Their profits/marketshare would shrink. So clearly, they would not, even if money was all theycared for, cause profits from staying the way they are now is better. What, you think MS is just gonna switch back for the sake of being evil? Now that’s dumb. MS WILL NOT CHANGE BACK. Stop living in the ‘what if’? What if this? What if that? No. I live in the FACTS: MS does not support DRM and will likely not in the future. Any evidence you have of the contrary is pulled from thin air.
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christocolus  +   126d ago
Wow......congrats ms..this was unexpected with the $500 price tag and all the bad press... quantum break and titan fall sure helped. EA, MS and Respawn must be smiling.

Definitly good news for all ms 1st and 2nd party devs and 3rd party devs too.

Imagine the sales if ms actually released a kinectless bundle at a $100 less.
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WeAreLegion  +   126d ago
You can buy good press and they bought a LOT of good press.

EDIT: I didn't mean that in a bad way. They just spent 1 Billion dollars on advertising.
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christocolus  +   126d ago
What ever dude..not going down that road with you guys.im very happy for ms...this was unexpected and they deserve this.
-wub-  +   126d ago
@chris They deserve this?? after what they tried to do to consumers? You're crazy.
stinkytofus  +   126d ago
A console with almost twice the demand and $100 cheaper price 2.1 milllion in 32 countries

Vs

A console with around half the demand of the console thats $100 cheaper, sells 2 million in less countries

I smell bullshit
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hollabox  +   126d ago
Or MS manufactured more units to meet supply and demand which is very reasonable considering MS is a bigger company with more resources. I myself only have the PS4 with the XB1 on my list for my last paycheck this month or this year on the 28th.
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edgeofsins  +   126d ago
MS does NOT have more hardware resources. Money is not everything. Companies need assets as well, which Sony is well established for.

We do not know who has sold more for a fact. All the estimations say PS4 sold more, and in lesser countries.

Also with Microsoft's history of telling us the retailer sales and not sales to customers.. You should get the idea. Even the X1 sitting on the store shelf might be counted as a sale to them. It's technically considered a sale. But it's misleading and is a bigger number then the customer sales so it makes the gap to other competitors listing customer sales smaller and makes them look better. They reported the sales to retailers for 360 a lot while PS3 and Wii were reporting sales to customers.
hollabox  +   126d ago
@edgeofsins

Didn't mentioned hardware resources but certainly its not hard to imagine if MS wanted they can buy their competition especially given Sony Crap credit rating. Anywho if MS said they sold 2 Million units rather its shipped or sold to end users both counts as a sell for MS.

Shipped to distributor is obviously the same as saying sold to MS. The distributors buys the product at wholesale prices from the manufacture counting as a sell for MS before selling to the store. But unless information is released saying shipped I would probably take MS at their word with 2 million units sold and not resort to speculations, and rumors to pump volume into your argument. Software seem to be pretty close as well with the last data I've seen reflecting only 275,000 more titles sold on PS4 than XB1 when the data reflected XB1 1.6 million sold compared to 2.1 for the PS4.

http://articles.latimes.com...
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jackanderson1985  +   126d ago
it's all about the supply... had Sony had 5mil ready to go i'm sure they would have hit the 5mil no problem... Sony's biggest issue right now is stocking the shops... MS's big issue is that once the core gamers disappear they'll have a hard time pushing a more expensive console to casuals.
Visiblemarc  +   126d ago
Yeah as paranoid as some think it is to question anything they read there are reasonable questions to be asked.

It's true that, on paper, Sony should have sold more based on poll numbers regarding demand, but we have to consider that they both might just be selling the maximum they can. What this means is 5 million people might want one and 10 million want the other but if they can both only produce 2 million they will both be sold out.

That said, if you think doubting microsoft is paranoid, you don't know that company's past behaviours. They are notorious for spin, numbers manipulation, and rhetoric. That's not opinion, it's factual. Just look to last year's reports of the Surface tablet "selling out" and "selling like hotcakes." That came from Microsoft...who later lowered the price by $150 and had to admit they had lost over $900 million to date on the troubled platform.

You know what else had "amazing and unprecidented sales" according to Microsoft? Zune. I'm not even joking. Gizmodo headline September 19, 2009: "Zune HD Quickly Selling Out at Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy and More"

This was based, of course on Microsoft reports and actual vendor data (they had, of course been "short supplied.") It paints the picture of Microsoft's history of deceptive marketing.

Does all this mean they are lying? Maybe not. Like I said it's unlikely everyone who wants one desperately will have either console until sometime next year, when manufacturing catches up to demand, BUT is it reasonable to distrust Microsoft? History says yes.

It's not being a fanboy, it's being an aware consumer.
Naga  +   126d ago
Why must you open old wounds? I love my Zune. To me, it's right next to the Dreamcast in terms of unfortunately failed products which deserved a better chance than they received.

And really, my truck got blown up 3 times in Afghanistan, and my Zune somehow survived every single one of them. I bring this up because my wife just dropped her iPod 4 feet, and it is now dead.

But to respond more directly, I think that the history of Microsoft advertising fast sales isn't necessarily evidence of dishonesty on their part. After all, the Dreamcast had record sales when it launched - demand was undoubtedly high. However, the initial demand tapered off and the console was dead within a couple of years. Similar story, I think, with the Zune.

The bottom line is that - as you alluded to - initial demand is not always a good indicator of the future success or failure of a device. It doesn't mean anyone is lying. It just has a limited scope of reasonable application.
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DoubleM70  +   126d ago
If we go by the pass history of Xbox alone. The 360 did sell 80 million consoles last generation. I can easily seeing 2 million Xbox fans buying the system in 2 weeks. Microsoft is on their 3rd console they are not an up start anymore. They have built the Xbox brand up. Even the mighty PS3 sold out of it's stock at a much higher price tag than the Xbox one. It may not be as hot as the PS4, but it's still selling well.
Visiblemarc  +   126d ago
@Onagao sure, your Zune might be great...but using history as a guide to what one might expect in the future is just being intelligent. It's not "opening old wounds." If you bought a Panasonic VCR, back in the day, and it died after you owned it two months and then years later, you bought a Panasonic DVD player and it died on you after two months too, when it came time to buy your Bluray player would it be "opening old wounds" to consider other brands based on your past experiences?

I'm kind of sick of people turning these discussions into deeply personal issues. We're talking about the sales statistics of a piece of plastic. Have some perspective.

@DoubleM70 Yeah, agreed, my point was that both companies are having trouble meeting demand and will sell most of what they make, immediately.

The thing which annoys me is just people saying that questioning what a company says is somehow wrong. Companies lie... a lot. In this case it's probably true, for the reasons mentioned previously, but this is what happens when trust is abused. This is classic "The Boy Who Cried Wolf."
Naga  +   126d ago
"I'm kind of sick of people turning these discussions into deeply personal issues. We're talking about the sales statistics of a piece of plastic. Have some perspective."

The "old wounds" remark was a comment made in jest. Ease up there, buddy.
Nocando  +   126d ago
That smell is coming from what you just typed, slick.
AceBlazer13  +   126d ago
guess that means sony is around 3 mil.
NiteX  +   126d ago
Confirmed!
thrust  +   126d ago
Got a link to 3mill confirmed?
True_Samurai  +   126d ago
*face palm*
Zynga  +   126d ago
Damn! That's only in 13 countries, imagine how much more they would have sold in all the other countries like sony.
DanielGearSolid  +   126d ago
Why do the amount of countries sold matter?

You can only sell as much consoles as you make... If you make 2 million consoles and spread it across 13 countries its not a bigger accomplishment than making 2 million consoles and spreading it across 32 countries
IcicleTrepan  +   126d ago
it only matters if you've saturated the other countries, which hasn't happened yet.
ltachiUchiha  +   126d ago
Congratz to microsoft but I wonder where they sold all that? Im curious or was that NA? Surely this cant be NZ. Thats not even that huge of an area.

Edit: Not trying to say microsoft is lying but, it just doesnt add up, unless sony really just been doing a poor piss job with restocking.
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Wikkid666  +   126d ago
My guess is probably around 1.5 million in NA and the rest in the remaining countries.

Both companies are producing around the same number of units per month. Sales totals per country are going to be based on how they distribute those units.
jimbobbeers  +   126d ago
Fantastic numbers for Microsoft considering it was only launched in 13 countries. Well done.
DoesUs  +   126d ago
Great numbers! This gen off to a flyer!
SpinalRemains138  +   126d ago
He did not specify that the dales are to consumers. Isn't the language of consensus now to say "sell through"?

Just curious. If 2 million gamers are playing One, then that's great for them.
MMEHTA  +   126d ago
Look on the article:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/1...

sold to consumers.
Finch  +   126d ago
Congrats to MS
Rinkuchal  +   126d ago
console gaming is going nowhere. Nintendo better step up...
Mikefizzled  +   126d ago
Hell I bought one and I thought it was going to outsold about 3:5 turns out they did alright after all.
Belking  +   126d ago
Good numbers for xb1. so much for people thinking the it wasn't gonna sell or would be dead at launch.
Darkfist  +   126d ago
remember when xbone sold out, yet theres still some in the shops.
tigertom53  +   126d ago
if some shops have them they will sell them in the next day as shipments come in every few days, and what is at the stores would not add up to a whole lot of consoles that are on the shelf's maybe 30,000..
aviator189  +   126d ago
well, obviously there are going to be some left in the shops.
it would be practically impossible to sell out of every single one that they have on the shelves at any given moment.
ms provides shipments regularly as well.
Blaze929  +   126d ago
the logic of some people I swear. 5th graders are able to draw more sense.
Dread  +   126d ago
O god not this again.

The SDF never rests. March on good soldier.
jaren92  +   126d ago
Of course everyone's gonna say this is not true anything good about Microsoft on here is a lie N4G logic
ltachiUchiha  +   126d ago
To be fair, they have lied quite alot to consumers with the xbox one & because of complaints they did a complete 180. Just really hard to trust them nowadays.
Gamer666  +   126d ago
When have they "LIES" to consumers. They were very upfront with Kinect and DRM well in advance of selling any of their consoles.

They did say that Kinect and DRM were designed into the device and not removable. Then, they redesigned the device to remove them. You could probably construe that as a lie. I don't think it was because they had to rework their design to take these things out... Kudos for them to do so.

The only lies I have witnessed so far are the sensational stories anti-Microsoft people and journalists spread.
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