Crazy new Sony patent for tracking your dance moves using motion sensing cameras that attach to your hands & feet sensing your every move with the help of the patterns on a dance mat.
Kinect 2.0 does this without attaching crap to your arms and legs. Sony has lost the race in motion capture and their money would be much more wisely spent in drumming up some AAA first party games not chasing half baked crap that can't hold a candle to the competition. You have a good gaming console Sony stay focused on that.
This is a patent, as in, they are just reserving this for themselves just in case(in what case, dont ask me) Most patents don't ever get used, like the one patent two years ago that showed 2 PS Move-like controllers that can connect to each other for use as a gamepad. That patent evolved to what is now today the DualShock4
AGreed I remmeber it was a detachable controller lool.
There was a sony article recently on here about something called the iWIG, Johnathan blow tweeted it to shu
@above, it was a joke, you know a joke, it isn't real. ANd even if it is, it has to do with Sony Mobile Phones
I'll tell you why because it's too slow & not accurate enough this would be more accurate & you would be able to control the game with your moves instead of the game controlling you.
Because no one has developed one specifically for the Kinect 2.0 yet. They have already demoed the Kinects ability to track full body movement. Check the link and watch the demo video. Below the video is a list of the specs comparing the difference between the original Kinect and Kinect 2.0 that you get with the Xbox One. They are apples and oranges. Kinect 2.0 can capture at 30fps in 1080p in any light conditions now and the latency is down to 20ms compared to the 102ms latency of the original Kinect.
@KingDadXVI the Kinect camera is only 512 x 424 the RGB camera is 1080P but that's not for motion tracking. & 30FPS is one of the reasons why you don't see any dancing games being controlled by Kinect because 30FPS is too slow for tracking fast movements then filtering & smoothing the controls to use to control a avatar.
becuase a camera cant keep up with movements and register them as technical commands without serious lag. dont listen to king. his fanboysim keep him from being intellgent
U have clearly no idea of what u r talking about... Better u check already what kfw (kinct 2 forwindows) is capable of
@TheKayle1 I know a lot more than you & @KingDadXVI the latency is 60ms not 20ms stop with the lies. SMH
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't Kinect dancing games just snapping shots of you lined up to a single frame? You really don't need to dance just be in the right position at the right time.
@kingdadxvl Yet it's not accurate when implemented on games. Kinect is just broken promises and only is worth it to navigate UI with gestures and voice. Game wise it fails.
Dance central would like a word with you,
Spoken like someone who's never played with the Xbox One Kinect.
@Crossing Eden The Fighter Within also wants a word with you.
Believe what ever makes you feel good about your choice in you console. I have seen it used and it works. Your loss not mine.
the fighter within is great.....
Fighter within is great! I'll have what he's smoking! Lol!
It was sarcasm people, come on
neither the kinect or ps4 camera are as accurate as it would be with sensors attached to parts of your body i was playing just dance 14 the other day and the camera kept confusing me with the xmas tree (im not fat :) )
so let me get this right kinect is the end all be all for motion control. wth are you talking about? If what you are saying is true king dad then they should have never made a ps4 because in america nintendo dominated that market???
yeah! kinetic 2 is the perfection of motion capture! nothing will ever be better than kinectic 2! look at Fighter Within on the Xbox one! it's almost as if i'm inside the game! it's the limit of evolution in mottion control!!! Sony will never make something better than kinect 2!!! Fighter Within is the definitive prove of this!!! the first game that make you almost be inside the game! all my movements are perfect, and kinect capture than 1:1, no! more than this! kinectic can [email protected]#[email protected] see the future! it can even antecipate my future moves!!!!!!!!!!!!! /S
That's pretty much the same as saying Knack is as good as gaming gets on the PS4. The technology is still in it's infancy. It will take time for developers to use Kinect to it's fullest. At the very least it has a 100% attach rate which gives developers incentive to actually use it. The same can't be said for any other accessories since they will never have a 100% attach rate. Can someone please explain why people still oomplain about this? Why wouldn't gamers want to see how gaming can evolve with additional controls?
@death. ya statment is true death, 100% kinect in X-1 is good but... are developers realy going to use it? you know, 100% of X-1 base isn't 100% of the market, i dare say that 100% X-1 isn't goint to be even near 40-50% of the market (maybe 25%), because WiiU/Pc/Ps4 have no kinect... Kinect isn't a smart move core gamers, at least not now... casuals may like the thing, but hey, they already can do kinect things in a cheaper machine called Xbox 360...
Sony doesn't have to worry about Triple A games. They always win in that category. I find it funny how Xbots think they have exclusives now.
*cough* fighter within *cough* http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... *cough* sorry winter cold is taking its toll on me
Like how M$ is supporting X360 with lots of exclusive games from this year to the next? Oh, wait. It's PS3 that has lots of exclusive games this year and the next. Sorry for the mix up.
I doubt Sony would ever go through with this. Attaching anything to your hands and feet would be a step back. These companies file crazy patents all the time and most never see the light of day.
If you think of how motion capture works, it isnt that crazy. If they made it where the whole body was truly a 1:1 setup then imagine the finer details that could be put into games that you almost feel compelled to move in by natural instinct. the pseye and original kinect could have been capable for mo-cap with the right overlays. Being that the camera has something to really focus on and that gets translated into the digital counterpart. But now the PS4eye and kinect 2 are even more capable in their own right and coupled with even better processing hardware should make for more realistic and interactive experience.
PS4 camera already has body and motion tracking. I don't know why they even want such a redundant patent.
Not just the finer details but the no lag. Not to mention Sony and their studios have vision. Kinect has so much potential but we have yet to see that under Microsoft's watch. The mocap capabilities and 3D scanning are so awesome. They could have actually had Kinect market share on PC if they supported it for PC as a webcam at least.
its an attempt to get 1:1 mo-cap into the living room that is the idea they are going after and this is one way of implementing it hence the patent. body tracking is not viable for hardcore gaming unless somehow they manage to convince people to stick one of these http://www.awn.com/files/im... mo-cap cameras on top of their TV's and get everyone to dress in these ping pong latex suits http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-J... at the moment that is the only way you can get anywhere near enough body tracking control for it to be even viable for use in-game. personally i think its a lost cause VR and occulus rift like head displays make more sense as far as motion sensors go
I doubt the dance-dance revolution ripoff is made by Sony
Sony focus on your VR stuff and leave this stuff to the sideline.
Wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo beats Sony to VR. They're usually always the first ones to break out of the norm.
Yep, like the Virtual Boy.
You know, I'm seeing all these patents and I can't help but wonder if this isn't all part of their VR Headset thing. I mean the biggest problem with things like Oculus Rift is how expensive it'll be combined with the low friction treadmill all coming around at 800$ right now. But if all Sony has to really do is attach some devices to our hands and feets, combined with a simple plastic mat along with a possible headset, at a lower price this could seriously undermine the competition and put Sony in the league in terms of a true VR experience. I mean this is only for a dance game but I'm just thinking of the possibilities here.
What happens when I reach the end of the mat?
Well now that I think about it, I think you could just take the mat out of the equation since the camera is big enough to encompass your whole room so guess it's only for dancing games.
So, if Microsoft does something like this , its a "gimmick"....but Sony can have you strap stuff all over yourself plus wave a colored vibrating penis-shaped controller at the screen?......
Dude, the Sony Move controller was not shaped like a penis. It was shaped like a clit massage.
Sometimes patents lead up to a bigger idea that they want to make sure they have it all locked down for. And like the above people say, patents are just ideas, not products.
Imagine this with the Oculus Rift headset.
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