PlayStation 4 is estimated to have sold around 1.25 million units in the US during November - around half a million more units than the Xbox One, according to predictions made by Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter.
Pachter is the worst analyst ever, but this estimate seems legit
Nah, it's Pachter. His margin of error is usually over 100%.
that's not a lot if it's only half a million ahead .considering that Sony Cant keep up with demand when they actually started production months before the XBOXONE .MS will eclipse that gap in no time .
@hakeem - LOL, you can't get delusion like that anywhere else other than N4G.
@ hakeem, Its widely accepted that MS is going to get trounced by Sony outside the US. The fact that Sony is even leading at all in the US now has to be worrisome to MS. And 500k is a lot!! Also remember The PS4 has not even launched in Asia. If this article is taken as valid (more likely valid then not as it seems to fall in line with game sales) then MS is trailing significantly and the gap will only get bigger.
I agree with Alex. That Sony is ahead of ms in the U.S. is a big deal. I mean it's ms's home turf and they're behind. I'm sure that price has a lot to do with that and the early adopters are usually tech savvy too. That means they'd be doing a lot of research on the specs and things of that nature.
If Pachter says 500, 000 it's probably 1 million.
1.25 million PS4s vs 750,000 Xbox One PS4 is outselling the XB1 by 5-3 in the USA alone
But you guys forget ms only launched in 14 countries... The rest will add a nice bump to sales as well.. Its not only Sony left to launch in places
to be fair usa is not xbox country in general. they had an immense supporter amount with the 360. 1 head headstart and gears of war did they're job pretty well. before the 360 ps2 was the dominant platform, and it looks like its "just" goin back to sony
Why everyone so surprised? When has the US purchased lots of a console that sucks? X360 was kick ass when it launched and during first 3 years, later on lives from that reputation, US did purchase lots of PS2s as well so why they wouldn't purchase more the PS4? It's hard earned money and gamers want the best gaming console out there, everybody knows that SONY will provide lots of exclusives and new franchises, like they do in every gen, nationalism crapp doesn't give you gaming experiences, it's hard to believe someone would buy a console only because is an american product
Bet money it's the PS4 that is behind by that. Analyst are being proved wrong every minute now. Media and Analyst have grossly underestimated Xb1's popularity, demand and appeal.
There are 2 individuals missing from this topic. They won't show up though given the nature of it. A half of a million units seems plausible given the demand for the PS4. @n4rc: This is about the U.S. not the world.
@MorePowerOfGreen: I'll take your money off you! PS4 is all over XB1 right now..
Wait PS4 already 5:3 already..?? Thought it was 3:2 early on. X1 faltering faster than I thought..
@MorePOG - You must have money to waste.
@hakeem0996 Let me do you a favor and turn your subjective "not a lot" into mathematical numbers. Not a lot = 40% of the predicted PS4's sold. Not a lot = 66.66% of the predicted Xbox's sold.
@Gaffyh MorePOG bought an under powered console thinking it was more powerful than it's biggest rival. Even when the sales drop this week on the 11th he'll deny it. In the US, Sony has sold through approximately 1.25 million units could be even more, that would place MS somewhere at 750k for the month in the US, with the most coming out from black Friday weekend! If MS had sold a million units in one region they'd have trumpeted all ready. As it stands they haven't, Sony cleared a million in north America, and a 1.1 million in PAL regions. PS4 have been incredibly hard to find currently, so they'd have sold more if they they could meet demand... Fans like MorePOG, simply don't want to believe the facts that PS4 is the hot item for this holiday!
POG, were you sweating and shaking after typing that?! Its inferior...get over it...no cloud is going to magically turn it into something else. You lead a sheltered life son, and i feel sorry for you. See you at Nov's NPD results.
@gaffy nect gen consoles wont do anything special in asia mainly japan. Consoles are dying in japan.
X1 was 100$ more expensive and come out a week later... so he's probably right.
Pachter is such a fraud that he manages to break the laws of mathematics in his margin of statistical error. If he ever said something truly accurate, the universe would shoot itself in the face through its butthole. That said I don't doubt that the PS4 has outsold the One by some margin...all of the preliminary signs were there in terms of pre-orders and how quickly each sold out.
This is the same guy who said the Xbox would outsell Sony by Christmas... His forecasting sucks, but I trust his empirical data.
Gaffy, alex, they both sold what was made... Simple... No need for fanboyism... Really...
What numbers?!? I see no numbers! I'm blind to the blindness that has blinded me from seeing!
@n4rc Xbox One - 41 Territories http://www.xbox.com/en-US/l... PS4 - 32 Territories http://www.playstationlifes... PS4 is leading with less availability...
When it comes to FACTUAL NUMBERS and getting pre-existing data he's usually on point, it's not until he start guessing potential game sales, and console sales and trends that he goes to Pachtland.
Right, like in 2008 when he got every single month wrong for NPD estimates when picking the 360 or the PS3 as the top seller. That was the whole reason I even knew who he was. An analyst who was wrong 100% of the time. Was amazing.
Yeah, exactly...when reporting on the work of others, he's alright. Then he plays prediction dartboard and it all falls apart.
He's not, e.g. he said MS was producing 1 million consoles per month which is in total contradiction with MS own target shipment figures (6.2 m in ten months). Therefore MS was only able to manufacture 1.5 m for launch, and said batch is definitely not sold out. Bet their sales are 1.3 million max, with 850k in the US. As for Sony they had 2.7 m to cover US and EU launch... Everything seems to have flown from the shelves. They probably allocated a little more in the US than Europe so they wouldn't have to restock for Black Friday... 1.5 for US and 1.2 for EU. According to this, the gap in the US is more probably around 650k, while in Europe it should be around 800k.
How could you not be on point about factual numbers ?
Shhh in his mind he still thinks it was a good comment.
Pachters good. He has alot of insight. He was talking about this on a recent Pach Attack, it's not his job to predict the future, noone will do that 100%, it's his job to give context to allow others to form their predictions. For instance, he said a while back that the reason digital games are as/more expensive than discs is that retailers would get pissed off at being cut out of the industry. And that's what Sony just said the other day. So he was right in his insight, it's up to you what you do with his context, his guess is as good as anyones when it comes to prognosticating.