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Submitted by Zir0 376d ago | news

GT6 launch sales were just a fifth of GT5's

PlayStation 3 racer Gran Turismo 6 has debuted with around five times fewer sales than its predecessor GT5. (Gran Turismo 6, PS3)

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come_bom  +   376d ago
Dam, that's quite a hit in sales. Maybe it should have been a PS4 game.
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allformats  +   376d ago
People are tired of current gen. Sony should have made this a PS4 launch title.
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360ICE  +   376d ago
Maybe they could have made a Prologue game for PS4, but seeing how they couldn't get Drive Club ready for release, I think it's good that they're taking their time with GT on PS4.
6YardsOut  +   376d ago
I agree that they should have made this a PS4 game but to say people are tired of last gen is wrong.

I have a backlog of about 60 games I need to play before moving into the new gen lol.
ravinash  +   376d ago
I'm still playing strong on m PS3, got many games to get through before I'm ready to upgrade to PS4 in about a years time.
Still got Dark souls 2 to play yet.

Looking forward to playing Killzone on PS4, but I can wait and it will be a lot cheaper (the game) by that time.
abzdine  +   376d ago
haven't bought it yet but i'm doing it early January
steve30x  +   376d ago
I disagree that it would have sold better on the PS4 because a lot less people own a PS4 than the PS3. It would have been good if it was released on the PS4 and PS3 though.
ZodTheRipper  +   376d ago
I think it's ok if we get GT6 on PS4 in 2014 or GT7 in 2015.

GT6 would be an incredible launch title for PS4 but remember that the console is sold out anyway, a system seller like Gran Turismo can wait a few months from a business perspective.
NewAgeisHere  +   376d ago
True but it looks like most people won't be able a PS4 in the near future because of gigh demand for the console......that's why Sony is making sure that PS3 has a lot of good games.
Omegasyde  +   376d ago
@allformats.

I agree on the point that "I" am tired of current gen, but there are still a number of users whom are still awaiting greatness.

I know one guy, who help off on a PS4 because Gt6 was coming out and he was still playing GTA5 religiously.

Would Gt6 of been a console pusher? Yes, but what's the point if all the consoles are (for the most part) sold out without the game until 2014?
mewhy32  +   376d ago
I agree with come_bom. This should have been a PS4 title. With the release of the PS4 I can see why the sales are down.
mrmarx  +   376d ago
No more ps3 than Xbox I know in nrasil lots of people still didn't even get a ps3 yet.. Price is expensive everywhere is not like the us and uk
Dee_91  +   376d ago
What would releasing on ps4 accomplish regarding sales?With a smaller fanbase it more than likely would have sold even less, it would have been impossible to sale more consoles considering ps4's have been sold out for the longest.By the end of gt6 first fiscal year it more than likely will sell more units than the ps4 has sold consoles or extremely close to the same amount worldwide.I don't know why you people think everyone who has a ps4 will automatically buy gt6.Come back to reality please.
Also this doesn't include digital numbers, which is how I bought mines and I think a lot of people did also.
But the thing is I want the folks at PD to get scared honestly.They really need to start looking at other racers like pcars and asseto corsa so that they can see that they have real competition and start making some changes so that the game will feel fresh and not like just another Gran Turismo.Theres so many little things they could do in my opinion to make gran turismo feel fresh, like actually being able to view the sides of your car while driving type of things.
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Back-to-Back  +   376d ago
Nope. If anything it should have been a cross gen title just like all the big titles have done. Ps3 will bring the most sales and ps4 will add a few effects and a higher resolution. Polyphony really missed a golden opportunity to be a AAA system seller at launch for the ps4.
irepbtown  +   376d ago
Games which are £47-£49 on PS4 are £30 on PS3 (Fifa 14, COD Ghost just to name 2).

For anyone sticking with the PS3 can expect some pretty low prices.
Gamer1982  +   376d ago
To be fair they didn't want two launch title driving games and when they started with developing this Drive Club was still a launch game not a launch window game. Plus they maximize sales making it a PS3 game. Money talks.
ChrisGTR1  +   376d ago
ehh.. i think it has alot to do with gt5 not being very good.
ShinMaster  +   376d ago
1- GT6 has been in development for years.

2- I'd rather they make a new GT for PS4 from the ground up and not just a port.

3- There are 2 GT games for every PS console.
steve30x  +   375d ago
@ ShinMaster : The next GT for the PS4 wont be a brand new game. Kazanuri said so in an interview

Were you disappointed at all that you couldn’t launch GT6 on the PlayStation 4?

“We are eventually going to do that anyway, and we really don’t think it’s a hindrance or a bad thing to release on the PS3. We say that because the performance of consoles today are sort of reaching their saturation point, where we’re not jumping up in performance as much as we used to with each new generation.

“And, the data that we use today for the PS3 is the data that we will take directly into the PS4. We created GT6 with that assumption that things are going to be carried over into the future; we’re not in a rush.”

Source : http://www.gtplanet.net/kaz...
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NatureOfLogic  +   376d ago
I was hoping for a PS4 release. It would have sold much better as a PS4 launch title. Sony and PD got what they deserved for trying a quick last second cash grab with the PS3. I'm still buying this in a few days for my PS3, but I really wish they would've released a PS4 version.
specialguest  +   375d ago
That makes less logical sense. How can it sell better when the ps4 ownership base is tiny right now?
ravinash  +   376d ago
I did enjoy GT 5, but really not feeling the need to upgrade.
I think this is more for the hardcore GT players.
Blackdeath_663  +   376d ago
only 2.1mill people own a ps4 and not all of them will buy GT it would have taken an even bigger hit on sales
BuLLDoG909  +   376d ago
We never would of gotten this as a PS4 launch game either way. At best a rushed prologue. Way too much work to get a full fledged GT game ready on a new system. GT6 on PS3 had already more then half the content ready to go from GT5.

Project cars is coming to next gen, next year. That will do until GT7.
DanielGearSolid  +   376d ago
The budget was 1/5th of GT5 lol. Same engine, a few additions... They'll probably need like 1million to profit on this one
JasonKCK  +   376d ago
"Dam, that's quite a hit in sales. Maybe it should have been a PS4 game."

Wait... what?

If it was on the PS4 it would be less not more because there are way more PS3's. 80+ million>>> 2+ million.
tawak  +   376d ago
most people are holding out until the ps4 version of GT arrives
chazjamie  +   376d ago
man people are tired of gt. gt 5 was really disappointing. and by the looks of gt 6 isnt really doing anything outside the gt universe. the customization still pales in comparison to forza, the graphics still has that mediocre flare, the damage system is straight up TRASH. I dont give a fuck about the the gt4 cars, its time poly cuts their ties with these ps 2 relics. The premium cars are overshadowed by these ugly fucking relics. I am sorry but you cant have a ps2 experience on a ps3. which is something most Japanese developers could not figure out.
IaMs12  +   375d ago
I didnt even know GT6 was even released let alone happening!
shadowsatey  +   375d ago
It should have released on both, honestly. There's probably another half a million or so that would have bought it on PS4. Their loss, I guess.
allformats  +   376d ago
Sony really made a mistake in releasing this on PS3 and not the PlayStation 4. It would have been a system seller.

If it has one area I believe they've been a bit weak in terms of PS4 strategy, it's with the launch titles.

This would have gone up against Forza 4 and easily defeat it.
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Bathyj  +   376d ago
Agreed. I would have been all over this if it was on PS4. As it stands I just cant bear to put the DS4 down, my hand feels naked without it.

I can only assume they wanted to Driveclub its time to shine but GT6 would have been a system seller for sure.
360ICE  +   376d ago
And we sure know the PS4 needs a system seller right now. It's not like Sony are having huge problems meeting demand.

I'd rather have a PS4 GT in a year or so. Drive Club looks nice too.
Bathyj  +   376d ago
Ps4 is selling well now because everyone is psyched and weve waiting on this gen long enough but it needs games too. Luckily Driveclub isnt too far away and Second Son is the big one so far.
jjonez18  +   376d ago
It's almost annoying that Driveclub got delayed while gt6 releases on last gen only within the launch window. It's my opinion that it should have been the other way around. Gt6 a launch title/cross gen while Driveclub gets another year in development. But all in all I bet they regret nothing, who could ask for more than 2million units sold before the major shopping holiday.
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solidboss07  +   376d ago
The millions that have, and will, buy it disagree with you, as do I. On PS3 is great.
BABY-JEDI  +   376d ago
I think Polyphony have a greater ambition for next gen GT. saying that, I hope they don't take 2+ years to get it out.
mhunterjr  +   376d ago
Releasing it on ps4 would have hurt its sales further. There simply aren't enough ps4's to go around. And people aren't going to buy the game if they are having trouble getting their hands on a system. It makes sense to hold your juggernaught titles until there is a larger installed base.
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neoMAXMLC  +   376d ago
How would it be a system seller if the system is already sold out?
mos6142  +   376d ago
Since GT6's debut is 5 times lower than GT5's

Gran Turismo 6 - between 53,000 and 55,000

what a bomb!
JohnS1313  +   376d ago
This article is dumb. When GT5 came out you could only buy it on Blu-ray. You couldn't download it. GT6 is also a digital download which is how I bought it. But these lists don't include digital copies, just the big stores. Don't believe this story. GT6 definitely sold a lot. And making it on the PS4 wouldn't have helped. PD made it on the PS3 because they already did a lot of the work for GT5. If they made a PS4 version it might have pushed it back a year or two.
jerethdagryphon  +   376d ago
also gt games have long legs gt6 will sell at least 8 million
JohnS1313  +   376d ago
I guess telling the truth on here now gets you nothing but disagrees. A lot of idiots on N4G who have no idea how these sales numbers are figured out. It's a fact that digital sales aren't included in these sales totals.
Omegasyde  +   376d ago
GT6 also came in the begining of December which in my opinion was a month to late in Western countries.

GT6 didn't have to just compete with Forza and need for speed but all the other games that came out before in November. This is why there are usually no huge games released in December.

Wallets are still recovering!

...But gt6 has legs.
kenshiro100  +   375d ago
Thanks for contributing. /s
WeAreLegion  +   376d ago
Expected that. Look at GT4, compared to GT3. Timing is poor. Marketing is worse. Amazing game though.
Dee_91  +   376d ago
Marketing is worse? They had the hugest gaming release party in the history of gaming release parties.And since the game got announced in May, every month since they have been at every major racing event.They released more info at racing events than gaming events,so its easy to see which audience they are targeting.
But everything else you said was true, but I will add that no other Gran Turismo had a digital version and GT5 leaving a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths has a lot to do with the sales taking a hit too.
Hopefully PD takes a step back and actually look at other racing games and bring something most racing games have that no Gran Turismo had to gt7.I can't say that they aren't innovative, because gps functionality and course creator begs to differ, but the game is still missing simple elements that a game should have.
Back-to-Back  +   376d ago
Marketing is terrible. I have yet to see an add on tv or on any website. I thought Sony was finally understanding the importance of good marketing.
Dee_91  +   375d ago
Commercials and website ads dont = marketing.Thats only a part of it, and not an substantial enough part of marketing to actually blame low sales on.
Plus there are ads on tv just not in the states yet.But like I said they targeted an audience and more than likely if your a car nut, you know about gt6..Kaz got 2 streets names after him because of GT6 for gods sake.I guess the people that needs to know about gt6 will know about gt6. It moves mainstream numbers but its not a mainstream game
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WeAreLegion  +   376d ago
"Super Mario 3D World is still being outsold by Knack." Lol. I love both games though.
ragincrinz  +   376d ago
who releases a game they want to be big right after everyone has gone a bought a ps4. stupid idea
JeffGUNZ  +   376d ago
Really? Look at the amount of PS3's sold to PS4's, it really doesn't make much of a difference. They should have released it for both the PS3 and PS4.
Maxor  +   376d ago
That's what you get for releasing lastgen games in the nextgen cycle.
skazwaz  +   376d ago
Eh. I love GT, but once ive gone next-gen I hardly ever go back. I was the same when all my friends were all "San Andeas-this, San Andreas-that" and I was all "saints row beyatch!"

Kinda sucks because im sure I miss out on great games. Ill just have to wait for drive club.
YourGreatUncle  +   376d ago
I don't understand how you missed out on San Andreas considering the 360 came out a year later and Saints Row almost 2yrs later.
NBT91  +   376d ago
Suit yourself but I've had more fun going back on LBP2 recently than I do any of the PS4 games.
Battlefield 4 online is quite fun and am addicted to Resogun but better graphics doesn't make them worth playing over GT6 or even GT5.

Still using my PS3 more than my ps4 is all in saying.
kratos_TheGoat  +   376d ago
sale is gonna drop even more nobody wants to support old gen games
YourGreatUncle  +   376d ago
I'm pretty sure God of War 2 and Final Fantasy XII (released about 2wks before PS3) got a lot of support.
DCfan  +   376d ago
Still playing FFXII.
DCfan  +   376d ago
Showing your true colors huh?
Hicken  +   376d ago
Oh, his colors have always been on display. Despite his name, his message has always been rather anti-Sony.

As for me, I'm not concerned. GT6 will, like its predecessors, reach that 10 million mark. The difference, though, is that quite a bit of those sales may be digital.

The PS4 being recently released also has a great deal to do with this entry not selling as quickly as past iterations. Even so, I'm not concerned in the least.
Gabenbrah  +   376d ago
There are only 2 - 3 million PS4's sold compared to 70+ million install base of the PS3, next-gen consoles wouldn't of hindered GT6 sales this drastic.
kratoz1209  +   376d ago
It will still be a system seller.
I Gotta Believe
OrangePowerz  +   376d ago
The release date was kind of stupid to have it come out after the PS4. I didn't buy it yet because there are all those other games to play on next gen.
moparful99  +   376d ago
I turned my PS3 back on for the first time for this game. But then again im a GT whore.. This game is sublime definitely an improvement over GT5 :0)
mhunterjr  +   376d ago
How is it stupid? Most playstation owners have yet to get their hands on a ps4, so they are likely still enjoying their ps3s... Their are over 80million ps3's. The lack of attention from 2.1million ps4 owners isn't what lead to these sales.
P_Bomb  +   376d ago
1) This is only for the UK
2) Game dropped on a friday, as in literally just a couple days ago. Most games drop on a tuesday. To call GT's launch week short is an understatement. Easy there Eurogamer.
badboy776  +   376d ago
PS4 is in limited stock and doesn't need a system seller at launch.
sashimi  +   376d ago
yeah thats what i'm thinking, if GT6 landed on PS4 only it would've been even more of a bloodbath than it already is as Sony cannot make enough PS4 to supply all the GT fans and every other gamer out there in such a short amount of time.
jerethdagryphon  +   376d ago
if it would have been on ps4 its simple who gets the ps4s gt fans we have priority over everyone :)

why you ask were just better :P
JeffGUNZ  +   376d ago
That's what they want you to believe. This is how marketing works. They only make a certain amount intentionally to draw attention to their product. Having their product sold out during the busiest shopping period of the year builds amazing desire for the system. Having it sold out and people wanting the system is crucial. In the long run, a company will make more money by limiting the amount of their product to build a hype/desire then they will if the systems were readily available. Can't think as a big gamer, you need to look at it through the average gamer stance. If PS4's and Xbox One's were everywhere, the desire to get one would decrease as people would think they could get one any time they wanted. But, if the quantity is extremely limited and finding one in public is rare, people start to desire the product that is the most demanded and the hardest to get. Every company does this, look at Apple with their iphones.
T2  +   376d ago
@jeff - that's true but very high risk as you are basically turning away guaranteed money in the hope hype will multiply that later... when in fact some consumers may buy abother system or gadget or find hard times... If sony were to do this, it could easily backfire... don't agree with it as a strategy
Good-Smurf  +   376d ago
Put the sales aside,the game is surpassed GT5 in every area.
I got the game in Digital which took forever to download and install but really worth the wait it will definitely hold me up well before my PS4 arrive in Feb.
Driving physics are night and day different to GT5 now every car feels so lively that I have fun pretty much every car from Fiat 500 all the way to X2011!
PD has finally returned back on track!
Phoenix76  +   376d ago
If u ordered your station online expect it to arrive sooner than later mate. Ordered mine through my catologue due to cash issue this close to Xmas. Ordered at start of nov, Was told to expect at the end of feb.......... Arrived on ps4 launch day instead!
Eonjay  +   376d ago
"But all major franchises are currently down in sales on previous entries - even after next-gen sales have been accounted for. "

Could it be that peopke aren't sure wether to get next gen or stick with current...
Shad0wRunner  +   376d ago
I have to agree with the general consensus, here.

GT6 should've been a PS4 game. A lot of people are dropping current gen consoles, in favor of next gen. Im personally not buying anymore PS3 games. Not when I have a PS4. This was just bad strategy from PD, no matter how they wanna rationalize it. Now PD is making GT7 for PS4, and when's that coming...next holiday season, 2014? I mean...if PD ported GT6 to the PS4 by say, early next spring...I'd buy it. I bought a PS4 to play games in 1080p at 60FPS.

Im done playin games at 720p/30FPS. PD shouldve saw this coming...
JeffGUNZ  +   376d ago
You are the minority at this point. Not an insult by any means, but PS4's are what, 1-2 million right now where PS3's are 70+ million? A lot of people are not getting a PS4 right now, not only because of demand, but just not ready to upgrade. This game would have done worse on the PS4 with such a far less install base at the moment. It should have been released for both PS3 and PS4.
snake-OO  +   376d ago
"It would be easy to suggest that next-gen excitement for the PS4 has put a dampner on GT6 sales. But all major franchises are currently down in sales on previous entries - even after next-gen sales have been accounted for. It should be noted that Chart-Track does not count digital sales from the likes of PlayStation Network and Xbox Live."

I bought GT5 on disc, and bought GT6 from PSN, and I have a PS4.
Shad0wRunner  +   376d ago
Good for you.

I wont touch it, on PS3. It's barely a significant improvement over GT5, anyway. The graphics arent much better. The frame rate isnt much better. All it is, is GT5 with more cars and more tracks. I know PD can do better than that. Which is why im holding out on a real, next gen GT title.
moparful99  +   376d ago
You are completely wrong. Handling has been refined to near perfection, the graphics are fantastic and the overall experience is the best it has ever been...
jerethdagryphon  +   376d ago
handling is extremly good, if the cars were boxes and untextures ie wrappped in a box fan would probobly be able to identify which box is which car
snake-OO  +   376d ago
The game isn't running in 720p. its 1080p. And its got a lot of improvement but you must own the game to know that.

I'm playing a game I enjoy, no one is asking you to play anything. At least I'm not missing out on a great game only because I have a PS4.
ambientFLIER  +   375d ago
Frame rate is worse. Digital foundry did a feature on it a while back. The increased rez hurts it.

And saying that it runs in 1080P is deceiving, because it's not full 1080P, but 1440x1080.
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EffectO  +   376d ago
Uh-oh

Racing genre has been in some serious decline for the past few years.It looks like time has finally caught up to GT.

Time to completely redefine GT series.
chikane  +   376d ago
yea i think most gamers didn't wanna drive ps2 cars again ...

so happy for this hopefully it sends a message to PD and sony to stop with the ps2 cars and make a real gt game already..

this bomb just like LR FF13 nice

GT 6 is like beating a dead horse.. it was only a matter of time before it showed it self in sells..
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mic_cala  +   376d ago
If u have a ps3 and are a racin fan u owe it to urself to get gt6.

Havent touched my ps4 since I got gt6, the game looks imaculate even on 8 year old hardware.
azshorty2003  +   376d ago
I honestly don't remember hearing build up for the game as much as 4 & 5. I starting seeing reviews and staying thinking "woah, that out already?"
jerethdagryphon  +   376d ago
it was announced at e3, and said it would be out in time for the 15th aniversery, that all this is its keeps kaz pattern of 2 per console

and celebrates the game

also anyone whos playing it gettng a bug with the clock stopping at the end then restarting and adding a few thousandths of a second
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memots  +   376d ago
Weird , I had a hard time getting the anniversary edition , tried 7 ebgames and gamestop they ran out of pre-order.

I got lucky my wife was in Seattle and asked her to check at the mall, it was their last one.
So I wouldn't call it a bomb.
Dabigsiebowski  +   376d ago
This game is going to sell for a long while, I have it and it's way better than 5. PD really needs to focus on making it more vast with the career kinda like how GT3/4 were.

I love my PS4 but PD history has always been 2 complete GT games on a PS life cycle which I completely feel fine with giving how long it takes them to get out the gate!
plmkoh  +   376d ago
And GT4 sold 2/3's of GT3. It has always been like that.
numonex360  +   376d ago
Millions of PS3s will be sold from here until the PS3 overtakes the Wii in 3 years time. Gran Turismo 6 will have good sales legs and sell over 7 million copies. PS3 is guaranteed to sell over 100 million console sales.
talocaca  +   376d ago
Im not concerned just yet. I sold my fat PS3 to buy a limited edition blue slim with GT5.

I will not buy GT6, but I sure will be there for anything on PS4 or even Vita.

I just cannot justify buying another one on PS3.
bleedsoe9mm  +   376d ago
that's what we get for sony supporting the console so late in its life , we get last of us and a great gt game , people interested in one not in the other , but when these games were put into development there were probably no firm dates on the ps4 launch .
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Orange Juice  +   376d ago
I believe it. Each one of my ps3 friends that bought gt5 are now enjoying their ps4s without looking back. I am willing to bet the bank that gt7 will destroy gt6 simply because it will be new and shiny.
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