Pete Hines got on Twitter to squash the rumor that Fallout 4 will be seen this weekend. And then tweets that fans "don't pay my wages." Really?
"Why is Bethesda trying to get into the FPS game?"
This is a very strange question, when you're looking forward to Fallout 4 so much.
Well I think of Fallout as more of an RPG than a straight-up shooter. It's slower paced, more exploratory with a complex story. Wolfenstein seems to be an attempt by them to be more like Bioshock/COD.
Well maybe they are not ready for a Fallout reveal. Sure it sucks that it will not be now, but like GTA games, its worth the wait. Skyrim was incredible, played nothing else for almost a year, so I do not have a problem if nothing is shown for Fallout. When its ready its ready. Happy B/day, deadman. Make a wish, one that we can all enjoy...:)
Article's author sounds immensely butthurt. Hines didn't say anything wrong.
He has lots of valid points though and I agree with the article as a whole. Bthesda is not making the right moves at the moment.
@Zoe How so?
I just think that Wolfenstein, EvilWithin and even Elder Scrolls: Online are not what Bethesda should focus on and what gamers are asking for. Personally, I'm not considering buying any of these ...a new Fallout or offline Elder Scrolls on the other hand would jump to the top of my wishlist.
It will be...or maybe a few days after but a tease should be at the VGA's I hope the VGA's won't be packed with trailers we already know are coming out.
Its my birthday tomorrow, i am super hyped for some awesome stuff. Hope i'm not disappointed.
By mistake clicked on disagree :) Happy birthday
Have a happy birthday!
Really? Why is it that anytime someone who isn't a known troll squashes a rumor because people have whipped themselves up over something someone said they heard from someone who heard from someone who read it on neogaf. it's yes it will, that person again not know for trolling is saying no but he really means yes....
5 years and 12 months of waiting, I feel totally heartbroken
lol not to bust on your math skills but that sounds like 6 years to me ...
6 years? Now I'm even more depressed, But I'm still hoping there's a Fallout 4 announcement soon
Disappointed? 6 years? Brother please, I'm still waiting for mega man legends 3
Tack on another year after they release it for them to iron out the inevitable bugs. Bethesda has never in their history released a game that worked right.
We don't have anything to do with him getting paid? Without the consumers he would be flipping burgers or out protesting because of the $7 p/h job he would have that can't pay the bills.
He isn't a developer, he is a VP. He is in charge of charge of public relations and marketing of games published by Bethesda. Which means, his talents aren't making games. If the gaming industry didn't exist, I'm sure he'll find a VP position elsewhere. That would def be true of a developer group said that though.
If consumers were not buying their titles he would have nothing to market.
Who is he marketing to other than his fans... who, other than fans would possible be interested in his twitter posts.
Way to spit your dummy out. I couldn't give less of a crap about Fallout 4 tbh but people need to have a little patience, they'll announce it when it's ready to be announced.
Really don't think this is a big deal. Title is misleading... he was responding to a dbag on twitter. What was said was "piss off way all this cloak n dagger bulls%*t! Then just let us know..is it? Isn't it? We pay ur wages 4 f%*k sake!" "@darrengage666 unless your last name is ZeniMax. You don't pay my wages. You might buy our games, and for that I am grateful."
Exactly he was responding to a dick on twitter... This is just another damn click bait title for a pointless rant.
Glad you mention this so i didnt give a click to these guys. That's totally understandable. Title makes it seem they dont give a crap about fallout or that fans have no interest in a fallout game.
That's just shitty to say, and putting Pete's picture up there like that is worse. They don't OWE you Fallout 4, nor do they OWE you showing you a damned thing. I assure you, having known the guy for 15 years, that Pete Hines is one of the coolest guys in the industry, and he absolutely cares about the fans.
Does it make sense for them to reveal Fallout 4 before they release TES:Online on consoles?
Serious question. I want Fallout 4 really bad, but I don't expect them to say anything until they've release TES: Onine, which IIRC is releasing in 2014
Well, they're going to need those Fallout 4 sales, because i'm not expecting the sub to last 1 year with ESO. It just doesn't set itself apart from other games.
I personally don't have any interest in ESO.
I love their games, but from what i've seen it's far too MMO for my days, and these days standards IMO.
I will keep a close eye on it, but I am far more interest in seeing how Bethesda can tackle co-op before MMO.
I am sorry.... this author has his panties in a bunch over nothing. I get he wants to hear Fallout 4 announced but much like that twitter jerk, yelling at them and getting angry for an announcement is not the right way to go about it. Have a little F*cking patience.
@Lace I know right Bethesda has some of the most vocal and annoying fanbase. Heres the order imo. 1.)Activision: Call Of Duty fanbase 2.)EA: Battlefield and Mass Effect Fanbase 3.)Bethesda: Elder Scrolls Fallout Fanbase 4.)Rockstar: GTA fanbase 5.)Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed fanbase The COD fanbase might as well give up because Treyarch nor Infiniti Ward won't be changing anything for a while.
I agree Fallout fans can be passionate and get carried away. And I wrote several things defending Pete Hines back in January when PS3 owners were hammering him on a daily basis over Skyrim DLC. But the recent survivor 2299 website debate is what inspired my anger in this post. If that site turns out to be a hoax Bethesda is culpable for just letting it be and refusing to comment. I'm not saying we need a trailer or a teaser or anything substantial but a simple "Fallout 4 is in development and when we have more official info we'll share it" would prevent a lot of the hoaxes and rumors from gaining ground and misleading fans.
First off LOL at the writer who has been stalking Bethesda since January (Fall Out 4) Pete Hines is still disgruntled over Elder Scrolls screw ups. And fans yelling at him to fix the game. The game released in 2011 and had ongoing problems for most of 2012. He doesn't hate his fans but he absolutely won't bow down to them. He'll show it when hes ready. Weather fans get agitated or not. But then again its not like Peter Hines has been doing the teasing lately. There's been leakes and domains spreading across the net. getting the fans super curious and a little vocal over them. Imo give the guy a break he'll reveal it when hes ready.
"Bethesda Thinks Its Fans Don't Matter Anymore" That's not what Pete said at all. The author is reaching. Someone on Twitter told Pete Hines to piss off and said that fans pay his wages, all Pete did was respond. And Pete is right, we don't pay his wages. Buying a product does not equate to paying wages.
@Chop Sounds like Pete was defending himself against an angry fan nothing wrong with that. Sometimes I wish this was the 90's or early 00's where fans didn't have direct access to these devs via twiiter or message blogs. Where there harassed and abused by the so called "fans". Let these devs work in freakin piece with out the worry of fans breathing down there neck.
Great title you've got there.
Honestly, this article does more to condemn Bethesda's fans for their sense of entitlement than it does to condemn Bethesda. That Bethesda is not attending VGX does not mean there will be no Fallout 4 announcement. First, an announcement can be made online. Marketing no longer revolves around TV. Second, an announcement can be made at a PR event. Third, as a general point, this article is filled with rhetoric that adds nothing to a serious analysis of Bethesda's policies or plans. I would grant that his wording is merely hyperbolic but for two facts: first, the hyperbole is repeated throughout; second, it serves the overall (entitled) purpose of the article. Hence, I conclude that it is all poor rhetoric. The author conceives of "making a lot of noise" in terms of ESO and the release of games. He notes that Bethesda has released no games this year. First, Bethesda still has 25 days to make a lot of noise. Or, perhaps they regard the info about ESO as a lot of noise. Second, I don't regard the lack of releases as a problem. There is no reason to suppose that AAA developers must release every year and continually make noise. The author is simply imposing his expectations on Bethesda. The author’s criticism is utterly subjective. It consists of claims such as "this is so 1998" and "why is Beth making a FPS?" YOU make not be impressed by these games, but (a) they demonstrate that Bethesda has not had a worthless year and (b) that Beth has been making announcements. And incidentally, the poor quality of the author's critique of these titles adds to the general impression that he is offering a poor article to his audience. The only serious attempt at an objective criticism of ESO remarks in it’s price. But FFXIV costs about $13 a month and is doing very well. There is no reason to think that pay-to-play MMOs can't be successful. If YOU don't want to pay for it, that's great, but subjective. I won't pay to play it, based on MY values. I recognize, however, that there are many who will. And if it doesn't sell, Beth will either reduce price or go free-to-play. So relax. "I hate to appear so rant-y…" This entire paragraph is insulting to the company and to the readers. There is no evidence presented that Bethesda think their fans are idiots. Further, "you KNOW the truth"?! Spoken like a true mystic. How about instead of making an assertion like that, you actually try to justify the claims you are making? And lastly, regarding the exchange between @DCDeacon and @darrengage666. First, the fan was entitled, insulting, rude, and demanding. Fans don't pay the wages, Zenimax does. Zenimax draws income from many sources, including gamers. That gamers buy the games does not entitle them to Bethesda working on their schedule and in accordance with their demands. Bethesda puts out a service and product WHEN THEY WANT, and if we approve, we buy it. They do not work for us nor do we have a right or entitlement to dictate terms to them. This sense of entitlement and self-importance culminates in the author's childish statement at the end: "That's right. We MIGHT buy your games. But keep treating us like we're fools for seeing the obvious and delivering lukewarm reboots and pricey MMOs and watch what happens to the fans confidence in your studio." The author and article are utterly worthless, and Hines gave a great response.
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Whatever ****face. Wasteland 2 is coming soon, shove your Fallout 4 where the sun don't shine.
Can't say I'm surprised...just extremely disappointed...
They haven't even mentioned it's existence yet idiots are getting angry they can't watch trailers? Methinks it might be the public that are the problem here.....
that horse armour is calling to you. I've lost quite a bit of interest in what Bethesda does.
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