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Submitted by SWayne 721d ago | news

MS:"Many Of Our Customers Have Serious Concerns About Government Surveillance Of The Internet"

Despite the rumored intrusion with Microsoft's Kintect, is Microsoft giving lip service or are they taking a stand against Big Brother. (Microsoft, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Angels3785  +   721d ago
Yeah...regardless of their intentions ANYONE would be at least a bit uneasy if someone wanted to put an advanced camera in heir home connected to the internet....doesn't matter if it was sony, microsoft or my friend dave down the street....I dont trust dave.......
JsonHenry  +   721d ago
Very valid concerns. One branch, just ONE branch of our government here in the USA track 5 billion cell phone locations a DAY. Yes, that means more than just US citizens but around the world. And they are doing it with or without the consent of of the company you use for your cell service.

What do you think they are doing with your webcams or Kinect peripherals?!?!?

JhawkFootball06  +   721d ago We're now able to create our own blogs and post news on N4G? The guy couldn't even spell Kinect right.

See quote, "Kintect"

Actually see SWayne's profile (Just joined 3 days ago), he merely created a blog and have been posting his own articles.
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Jeedai Infidel  +   721d ago
They still need warrants to do anything with that info; Are you in constant fear of police barging into your home whenever they please, because they can, but not without a proper warrant signed off by a judge.

This loss of trust in our society is what we should be alarmed by. We sit on computers/tablets/phones all day long and worry about surveillance, yet we are slowly abandoning human contact.
JsonHenry  +   721d ago
The Snowden files show that they do not bother with warrants. They collect the data they want to use THEN (maybe!) get a warrant retroactively to use that data against you.

The 4th amendment is being violated by the simple act of data collection in the first place. The fact they then use that data against you or others after the fact is breaking so many state/federal laws that there is not enough time to list them all.
morganfell  +   721d ago
Sorry Jeedai but all they need to enter your home is probable cause. It's too easy to gin that up. Full search of the house will require a warrant but under the Patriot act they can move quickly on that.

MS helped create Prism. They are the last company that should be trusted to insure our privacy.
Jeedai Infidel  +   721d ago
When's the last time any of you knew anybody that had their house barged into? Don't let the Marxist propaganda machine keep you living in fear, that's all I'm saying. Why do you suppose that all this spying is still attached to conservatism, even though the "Progressives" are the ones instituting it? And before you say it, Bush is no conservative, neither is McCain nor Romney. We should be worried that none of our choices ever matter, and that they are all Marxist.

And don't get my brushing away of fears confused with allowing constitutional infractions, I'm a Constitutionalist, but I'm also a realist.
aiBreeze  +   721d ago
"They still need warrants to do anything with that info"

Wrong, they only need warrants if the person is a US citizen on US soil. For everyone else, they can do what they want with that info.
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Nujabes_  +   721d ago
Then you're screwed if you have a smartphone; which has GPS and microphone that can be used to track you even when the phone is turned off.
malokevi  +   721d ago
I guess that makes me nobody then.

*whisps away into nothingness*
rdgneoz3  +   721d ago
According to the listings of when each company bent over for prism, it doesn't look like MS put up much of a fight to begin with. And all of that was done using "legal process."

parentoftheyear  +   721d ago
"That’s why we are taking steps to ensure governments use legal process rather than technological brute force to access customer data."

That's sweet and all Microsoft but the government will do what is wants.
ambientFLIER  +   721d ago
An advanced camera connected to the internet. Hmm, you mean like...a laptop webcam? Or...a...1080P cellphone cam?
b00mFargl3  +   721d ago
Using the term ANYONE already makes your argument invalid. You dont see people putting tape over their camera's on their smart phones, tablets or laptops commonly. All of these devices can be monitored on so many levels, but we are more concerned about the gaming systems in homes. Seems a bit silly.
GrandTheftZamboni  +   721d ago
The devices you mention have narrow view of vision compared to camera positioned to see the whole room. I still wouldn't want the government checking my aural hygiene via my phone or how much spider web there is on my ceiling via my tablet.
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ssj27  +   721d ago
It can see behind walls
HolyDuck  +   721d ago
Phone docks, laptops, webcams, tablet docks, holding each device gives near enough the same field of view so what is your point? Unless you have a weed farm in your closet ands kinect is actually looking who cares? Besides, you take your phone to more places than just having it sat in one roomn 24/7.
b00mFargl3  +   718d ago
Did the CIA put a chip in your brain too. Better start wearing aluminum foil hats for all the NSA spying going on. I guess just unplugging the camera just isnt an option so bitching about the camera instead seems like a much better solution. Your phones and tablets besides just your cameras can do far more things to be tracked than a camera pointed at your couch. I would be more worried about my texts and phone calls than anything. Not a damn gaming console in the living room. Panasonic and Samsung have had stuff like this forever on their smart TV's.
SilentNegotiator  +   721d ago
I have more control over my computer than a closed system like a console. Even Android has infinite more ways to control what it does, what info it sends, etc.
stuna1  +   721d ago
Because the home should be the most secure place you have! Cell phones, Laptops, Tablets are mobile devices that for all case in point are not something many attribute to privacy, simply because they are mobile.

My Desktop doesn't have a camera, but my Laptop does! My landline telephone doesn't have a camera, but my Cell phone does! It's because if these different functions that determine what I say or do with each device I'm using. When I'm at home there are just certain things I should be able to do without the fear or concern that someone is possibly seeing everything I see or do.
b00mFargl3  +   718d ago
buynit  +   721d ago
I just dont understand some ppl.. the funny part is that I bet most of them have web cams a cell phone a tablet but lets just say they dont... how are they going to avoid highway cams mall cams intersection cams...

Its like I said if it bothers ppl that much then move out of the states and go back to the cabin in the woods with lanterns and shit. Most of you are just flattering ur selves anyway unless you are doing some serious shit that isnt legal..
parentoftheyear  +   721d ago
I am in IT, and I know ALOT of people that put take over their webcams. ALOT.
Eonjay  +   721d ago
Microsoft was involved in the Prisim program so the concerns are more than valid. The question I would ask is whether surveillance actually makes us safer. Also, if Microsoft aand other companies set up back doors to give the NSA access, who else has acess and what is stopping companies and individuals from using those very same doors to spy, steal, and compromise accounts (financial or otherwise)?
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Benjaminkno  +   721d ago
The NSA can FORCE communications companies to compile data for the government, as well as barring them from informing their consumers. It doesn't matter what company it is, they will have to comply with "national security" matters as the government sees fit.

It's the law.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   721d ago
Microsoft IS big brother.. @ least in bed together. That company is the definition of the 1%, and their elitist attitude towards us , the 99%.
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Bryan574  +   721d ago
Microsoft and Google are helping to create George Orwells 1984.
XboxFun  +   721d ago
Oh really?

Maybe instead of jumping on bandwagons and spouting off popular false views from other fanboys, maybe you should actually read some current news.
HumanAfterAll  +   721d ago
Yes It's understandable "here we give you camera. YOU PLUG IN!"

But I look at it this way, Now technology has advanced tons over the past 10 years and most people who own phones usually have a smartphone, some have tablets (I have a Razer Edge actually. great little thing), and almost all own some form of computer, be it laptop or desktop.

If someone wants to spy on you they will. Anyone with a damn Facebook can be spied on. anyone with an IP address can be spied on. If you own a computer, someone is probably watching. I mean so many people act like now that Kinect is around it's the only thing people are going to spy on you with. Sure seeing you directly VS seeing your info online is a different thing, but at the end of the day, it's all spying.

People just need to not live so paranoid. I have my Kinect plugged in, I don't sit and think about the government watching me. It's not that I don't care about it (I value my privacy just like anyone) it's just not not something I need to set my mind on 24/7

My point is, Kinect is not the only divide on the market that people can spy on you with, so people should stop making it such a big deal.
Monolith  +   721d ago
Yes we should make all of it a big deal. This is just one more thing.
HumanAfterAll  +   721d ago
One more thing for what?

One more thing to add to the hundreds of Anti-Xbox articles.

One more thing to add to you collection of tin foil hats?

It's getting pretty ridiculous now.
Grimhammer00  +   721d ago
two biggest issues with this PR spin from MS....
1) they provide the enhanced means for the NSA to crack the very encryption that they are here toting as championing for users and forgien govs. Very definition of two-faced
2) MS is going to open centers in foreign govs to help assist govs to manage data so other govs (US) can't snoop. Does this sound logical? Does this sound plausible? I'll bet the bank that these places will a) never be made as the govs know b) that these are really just NSA listening houses.

Utter BS and insultingly silly that they think we're stupid enough to buy this crap!
kingdip90  +   721d ago
What they said from my understanding of the reading was that they will try and prevent the government taking data UNLESS they go through legal channels...

so if they ask nicely its free on a silver platter??? I to am confused as to why people would think this is good news
Bryan574  +   721d ago
according to NSA leaked documents Microsoft was the first and more then willing to give them backdoor access ...this is just lies and propaganda.
buynit  +   721d ago
I couldnt care less if the government wanted to watch me or track me.. its just going to be a boring video to watch and a waste of money and resources. If you ppl are paranoid about this then move out of the united states because you will be watched and or tracked with or with out the internet..
Jeedai Infidel  +   721d ago
Maybe we can finally get accurate stats for how many people masturbate with left hands instead of right, seems like that would be most of what is seen through game console cameras.
Bryan574  +   721d ago
NSA can do whatever illegal thing it wants as they just have to say its because of National security which gives them the trump card to maintain their Orwellian police state mafia.
level 360  +   721d ago
All I can say is Microsoft won't be able to bite the big brother's hand that feeds them.
Rock_On_PS4  +   721d ago
Only the criminals and terrorists have problems with government monitoring their internet. Government are keeping all of us safe and secure against the minority terrorists and criminals.

Some people have forgotten all about 9/11 and how it could have been prevented if better surveillance and security measures were in place.

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