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Gran Turismo 6 Graphics Downgraded From Gran Turismo 5

Showing graphical differences between Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo 6. Loss of shadow and reflection fidelity are present in Gran Turismo 6. (Gran Turismo 6, PS3)

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Convas  +   220d ago
I guess now we'll stop with the stupid, bulls*** comparisons and just get to playing our games, right guys?
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Godmars290  +   220d ago
Heh-he

As if ever...
guitarded77  +   220d ago
I couldn't tell any difference besides the natural sunlight and reflections... and that was due to more cloud cover/later time of day in GT6. What am I missing that is a "downgrade"?
Godmars290  +   220d ago
The car's shadow. Its not as fully detailed as in GT5.

Edit:
Wanna say its not a big thing, but its not.

Fun thing is while it cannot avoid not being compared to Forza 5 where it will likely lose in terms of graphics, in every other regard, content and environmental conditions, the 8th gen title wont be able to hols a candle to one from the 7th.

So when someone finds an obvious thing like it doesn't compare to GT5, when GT5 had its own issues, they're going to point it out. Use that to attack GT6 instead of Forza 5.
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Studio-YaMi  +   220d ago
The trees shadows are more detailed on GT5 as well.
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Skips  +   220d ago
Practically everything else other than the shadows and a few reflections here and there have been upgraded. lol

Like the sky, the track, and everything from details of the car, increase in resolution, and physics. Not much else you could do on 8 year old hardware, and I guess sacrifices had to be made. : /

Glad it's not anything incredibly noticeable like the Forza 5 downgrade though. lol

http://i.imgur.com/J7MARIc....
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
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Army_of_Darkness  +   220d ago | Well said
Exact same cars, tracks, sounds and graphics. .. .. Tell me why I should even consider buying gt6 again?
KidBroSweets2  +   220d ago
The brake lights work in gt 5
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Godmars290  +   220d ago
@Army_of_Darkness:
Not caring one way or the other if you do. Know I've been thinking about getting it for a few years now, only I keep cheapening out because of its rep I feel I'd have to get a drive wheel.
ShinMaster  +   220d ago
There are more upgrades than downgrades.

The physics are better than GT5's.
Higher resolution.
The lighting is better.
There are more dynamic day/night transitions.
Motion blur (although some people are complaining that it blurs the shadows while in motion).

Also, this article refers to a Digital Foundry analysis from a demo in July.

Does this change the fact that it's still the best looking racing game in current gen consoles? Nope.
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Tvensky  +   220d ago
what downgrade? clearly I see the same game, with new physics, lightning and content..

if that guy (probably girl) is talking about some random shadow 10 meters far.. while driving 200 km/h.. yeah.. that changes my racing experience.. lmao
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I see better shadows in GT5 and better motion blur in GT6. That's about it. I really don't think this is anything to write home about.

@ Army_of_Darkness - You can point that criticism to most racing games and nearly all sports titles out in the market. I'm not saying it's not a valid observation, but these games usually build upon the previous iteration, so it's only natural to find some shared content. You can take the exact same Honda NSX for a few laps in the High Speed Ring in all GT games from 1 through 6, but only the latest one allows you to take the Pagani Huayra for a race in Bathhurst.
Knushwood Butt  +   220d ago
That just looks like a different lighting (and therefore shadow) engine.

There's nothing special about the shadow in the GT5 video that they would have to cut back on; It's not exactly complex.
Aery  +   220d ago
Don't waste your time over this useless comparison. It's a pure click-bait.
Ju  +   220d ago
GT5 has cookie cutter shadow maps and reflections aren't natural (simple tacked on "mirrors") plus it has missing motion blur.

So adding all that with a dynamic lighting engine which gives you realistic reflections, soft shadows, real time weather and motion blur (which is huge for an 8 years old console) is now called a downgrade. We should just stop making video games. Looks like nobody cares.
Dmarc  +   220d ago
OMG DEM SHADOWS
PRE-ORDER CANCELED!

Now I remember why I barely visit this site any more.
Okay just read the article and holy f%^ing s#1t if thats not some bull s#1t pulled out of no where.
This is not photoshop,the motion blur in replays are not a damn filter its the result of a new rendering engine.Hi def Refelctions... LMAO.The reflections in gt5 was an over kill and they reduced it.The cars still have high definition reflections in gt6, they are just less mirror like.High def shadows? are you kidding me?The shadows in GT5 was far from high def, they were a jagged mess,They are almost as chiseled in GT6 but way less jaggie.The differences are, the shadows are different on the track because the Sun has moved which caused the tree shadows to appear less "chiseled" because PD remapped the entire sky on every track.The shadows appear less chiseled on the car because of the new engine, if you stop, you will see the shadows are nearly as sharp as gt5 but less jaggied.None of this is a downgrade.Learn a little more about graphics and the game before make more dumb claims.The only thing that got downgraded was the AA, which was a given considering the boost in resolution.
Its funny with these so called downgrades, the game looks better than a majority of racing games.
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gaffyh  +   220d ago
It just looks like they are using softer shadows, and adding more anti aliasing, doesn't seem to be worse looking really.
UltimateMaster  +   219d ago
The car looks better on GT6, everything else such as resolution don't.

What I find fascinating is why would you buy the same game with a different number?
jhorner13  +   220d ago
I agree that until the game is out we cannot compare. This could be Alpha or Beta footage, but it is an article some people will want to read.
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xPhearR3dx  +   220d ago
You're joking right? Alpha or Beta footage, really? The game is already out.

@moparful99

Um, yes it is. It just came out here in the US on the East Coast and it's already out over seas.
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sobotz  +   220d ago
Feel the taste of desperation
moparful99  +   220d ago
@xPheaR3dx. Uhh no its not.. It comes out tomorrow..
Narutone66  +   220d ago
I already got the game and I played a few hours. The graphic look almost identical to GT5, but the driving physics is improved. GT6, when you start it first is geared toward beginners as there are a lot of tips on how to brake and accelerate. You have to earned your stars before you can unlock other events.
ShinMaster  +   220d ago
@ xPhearR3dx

You know the article referred to a Digital Foundry analysis from a demo in July and not he final release, right?
lastofgen  +   220d ago
game's already out..
Muffins1223  +   220d ago
Motion blur and shadows are worse in gt6 than gt5....thats all i noticed.I think it was rushed while their putting most efforts in to gt7 for the late 2014 release confirmed.
wishingW3L  +   220d ago
while you're right about the shadows GT6 can't be worse at motion blur because GT5 doesn't even has motion blur to begin with.
TH3BR3W  +   220d ago
There was no motion blur in GT5 take a look again. Specifically watch the white fence rails by the bleachers. See how they look normal in GT5 and then GT6 they have a blur effect? Proof as to why GT6 had to dim the textures, lighting, and world reflection. Just so we can have a gimmick that doesn't really change the experience at all.
Abriael  +   220d ago
Article makes an entirely false point, forgetting that the resolution of the game has been largely increased from Gran Turismo 5. It considers only the elements that suit its argument, ignoring those that make it false. It's entirely misleading and fake, and hopefully a mod will take care of it.

Usual cinemablend flamebait.
Studio-YaMi  +   220d ago
It's basically a comparison to get back at fanboys for the backlash of Forza 5.

Some websites are just gullible like that.

What's funny here is,considering that GT6 has much more going for it on a LAST GEN hardware,you'd think people would understand that corners needs to be cut in order to reach the goal of a finished/polished game.

Forza 5 on the other hand runs on next gen hardware and there was lots of cutting to do before release,not to mention the half baked backgrounds/lightning & no day/night cycles.

At least the Xbox fanboys are happy.

One major AWFUL thing about GT right now are the Micro-transaction,but that's business for you.
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Dewitt  +   220d ago
The amount of reused textures and filters in the game is mind-boggling. The resolution is 1440×1080 vs 1280x1080 hardly a huge upscale difference, being that fanboys were saying this game looked better than FM5, I expected alot more. It definitely looks like the same game with very slight differences and the shadows are clearly better on GT5.
DOMination-  +   220d ago
At least gt6 adds the feature for a $195 "micro" transaction for a Jaguar
speedforce131  +   220d ago
I have no idea why people are disagreeing with you, sometimes PS fanboys just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm a PS fanboy too but damn it feels like **** to have your own 'people' trash the shit out of you for speaking some common sense. Some of us just like to play the goddamn game without all this drama.
monochromer  +   220d ago
"sometimes PS fanboys just doesn't make any sense to me"

Cool sentence, man.
thisismyaccount  +   220d ago
GT6 at 1440p http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Looks superb tbh! All this on 256mb ram...

+ Higher Resolution!
+ Dynamic Lighting!
+ Dynamic Tessellation!
+ Soft Shadows (?)
+ Motion Blur
- Sound still okay, not there yet though

1200 cars, 40 tracks, 100x track layouts, online (free on PS3) all this for $60 bucks! MT are 100% optional, nothing was stripped/removed from the disc, no need to download a patch to be able to play or enjoy 100% of the game.

I´am this close |---| to get me a PS3 and a copy of GT6, if i wasnt/didn´t level up ma Char in AOC these past days.

Seal of approval!

http://saved.im/mtg3mdc5dxp...
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Ju  +   220d ago
Ha ha ha. Agreed. I was just gonna say. Are people retarded?

GT6 has soft shadows, reflection is a result of much better (dynamic) lighting engine and the the "side lines" are now motion blurred.

None of those effects are in GT5 and yet lets make an article and call it "downgrade". That's gonne generate hits. LOL

(BTW: It's still 512MB RAM. RSX has full access to XDR)
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jerethdagryphon  +   219d ago
there is a 1 gig update no idea what it does, but i dont care also the vision gt is just car porn
inf3cted1  +   220d ago
Since its not xbox titles we are talking about... yeah
GuyThatPlaysGames  +   220d ago
After watching this generic gameplay with horrendous car sounds, I now know how much better Forza is.
medman  +   220d ago
Yet another reason this should have been a launch window title for PS4. It didn't make any sense when I first heard about it, and it makes even less sense seeing the review scores for the game stream in.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   220d ago
Oh this is too good. Forza is still the King of racing sims. What a bad score for GT6. 75 is good overall, but for GT game... dang!

People were laughing at the score the new Forza got, and it's still a way better average score than GT6. Crazy!
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   220d ago
Devs are rating next gen games higher than current gen ones? You don't say!
pete007  +   220d ago
gt6 is just to cash a bit from gt5 looooong development cycle. i heard it cost sony/pd something like 50 million usd to make. it includes all gt universe(racing team, ads, etc), GT no longer on throne. racing enthusiasts have now way better experiences across the board
3-4-5  +   220d ago
Why didn't they just make the decision to go Next gen like 2 years ago?
pete007  +   220d ago
yeahh!!!! tottally agree with you, btw, why werent you just playing your games when xbox one games were downgraded?
lpc  +   219d ago
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Riderz1337  +   220d ago
Other than the shadows, I think GT6 looks much better. Much more crisp (Due to higher res) and more detailed courses.
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mos6142  +   220d ago
much better it what regard. it looks they added motion blur and thats about it.
RenegadeRocks  +   220d ago
Realtime Time Of Day and weather on all courses, Higher range in HDR: completely redone lighitng,Adaptive tesselation on cars. That takes resources. This isthe same ps3, yet they have managed all that in the new game.
WitWolfy  +   220d ago
Looks like the good old fashoined copy and paste method to me.
LiQuiZoN  +   220d ago
It's all about the new physics engine. I don't mind a graphical hit. Ps4 version will have best of both worlds! Still picking this up on 2 hours!
ErcsYou  +   220d ago
I'll take native 1080p over a sharper shadow and brighter reflections all day everyday. Tomorrow night I'm powering down my PS4, dusting off my PS3, busting out the GT Wheel and getting down and dirty with this beast of a driving sim.
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TH3BR3W  +   220d ago
You know that no games actually played native 1080p on that last gen consoles right? This includes the precious GT series no matter what the box says you are play upscaled 720p with jaggies.
CGI-Quality  +   220d ago
False. Ridge Racer 7 was full 1920x1080, and I'm sure if I dig deep enough, I can find another.
neoMAXMLC  +   220d ago
Uhh no. Maybe not many "retail" games played at 1080p native but there are PLENTY of downloadable games that run at 1080p on the PS3. Also, GT5/6 aren't upscaled 720p. GT5 runs at 1280x1080 and the GT6 Academy demo was reportedly running at 1440x1080. Sure it's still not 1080p but that is a lot more pixels being pushed out.
dillhole  +   220d ago
Virtua Tennis 3 did.
CryofSilence  +   220d ago
Wipeout HD was another in full 1080p. GT5 actually did have 1080 horizontal lines, but its vertical lines were 1280 (GT6 increases this to 1440).
ShinMaster  +   220d ago
FALSE.

GT was never 720p on PS3.
Sarcasm  +   220d ago
GT5 was 1280x1080

GT6 is 1440x1080

Still significantly higher resolutions than 720p. Then again, it's a racing game so resolution is less of an issue.
Ri0tSquad  +   220d ago
Even SSDHD was 1080p/60fps & 720p/120fps. The Walking Dead is 1080p. There's a good handful of games that are native 1080p on PS3. Some less demanding than others. To flat out say none at all is wrong. There were native 1080p games at launch.
speedforce131  +   220d ago
Shinmaster, shut up you're wrong about everything. Pretty obvious coming from someone named Pokemaster.
ambientFLIER  +   211d ago
"I'll take native 1080p over a sharper shadow and brighter reflections all day everyday."

First of all, 1440x1080 is NOT native 1080P. Second, more quality per pixel makes for a better looking game than pure 1080P. Maxed out 900P > stripped down 1080.
chikane  +   220d ago
Happy gt6 day every one hope you enjoy the game today
wishingW3L  +   220d ago
I noticed it when played the GT6 Academy demo but I thought it was because the game wasn't finished. But if you compare GT5 Prologue to GT5 you'll notice another slight downgrade.

And to make things worse, GT6 no matter if you play it at 1080p or 720p now both have x2 MSAA while on the older games you could have 4x MSSAA if you played the game at 720p. This most likely is to fix the old frame-rate issues although I heard that GT6 still has frame-rate issues at 1080p. Seriously, I have no idea what is going on....
ShinMaster  +   220d ago
What is going on?

The physics are better than GT5's.
Higher resolution.
The lighting is better.
More dynamic day/night transitions.
Motion blur (although some people are complaining that it blurs the shadows while in motion).

Seems like more upgrades than downgrades. Not to mention game content hasn't been downgraded unlike some other racing game.

Also, this article refers to a Digital Foundry analysis from a demo in July.
Does this change the fact that it's still the best looking racing game in current gen consoles? Nope.
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ambientFLIER  +   211d ago
It hasn't been downgraded? GT6 carries over most of GT5's cars (even the PS2 ones) and tracks and only adds a few new things. That's far easier than making 200 brand new high rez cars and 14 tracks, like in Forza 5...

GT6 still sounds like crap, still has poor AI, and still has laughable damage modeling.
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ShinMaster  +   211d ago
@ ambientFLIER

GT6 carries over most of GT5's cars because they're both PS3 games and they both have highly detailed cars. Besides, there are almost 200 brand new high-res highly detailed cars. What would be the point of remodeling the same cars?

At least it's damage doesn't consist of mostly texture swaps.

And those "PS2" cars have actually been upgraded to look better. No worse than Forza 2 cars.
http://i.imgur.com/VPlxfBv....

Cars also drives better :)

So get out of my face.
smashcrashbash  +   220d ago
So it's time for another episode of compare the graphics of GT again just like with GT5.I mean must we do this every single time? You show pictures of GT,make a mountain out a mole hill ,people still buy it,they are called Sony drones an article appears trying to talk about how Forza is better then GT, we argue we fight,people gripe and moan about every tiny little detail, the trolls jump on board etc etc.Can we just not do this for once.
Evil_Abed  +   220d ago
Seeing as PlayStation fans just love to talk about teh grafix powa, I don't see why you should have a problem with all this. Or is it only good to talk about it when praising a PS exclusive?
smashcrashbash  +   219d ago
Not sure what you are talking about.Except for Nintendo fans who constantly deny that graphics are important every fan talks about grafix powa as you put it.
TH3BR3W  +   220d ago
I know exactly why the textures are muddier and the AA looks worse is they added motion blur to it. That alone is where the GPU's processing allocation is going over the AA and textures. Not to mention the lighting and reflections are worse. They had to dim those down just so we can have a shotty gimmick. GJ polyphony.... smh
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JackVagina  +   220d ago
The youtube compression is so bad, you can hardly even see whats happening
ltachiUchiha  +   220d ago
If this was a ps4 game I would be ticked but since its a ps3 game & is minor i dont mind at all unless they gimped a few tracks & cars for dlc but i hear u can unlock all cars if u put in all the time & effort so thats what im use to doing anyways & makes it worth the buy.
level 360  +   220d ago
Honestly GT6 looks great. Physics is faultless.

Humongous amount of cars and tracks to choose.

Plus you get a "FREE" Mercedes Benz Vision GT Concept ( http://www.ebeasts.com/2013... ) as a "GIFT" from Sony/Polyphony with 3 choices of colors.

Do have to add the interior shot of the Merc has been totally blacked-out.. and other vehicles in the manufacturers' corner not having any gallery CGI shot/photo also have the same blacked-out interior treatment.
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Koyes  +   220d ago
That is.. dissapointing. I thought they would have got rid of the blacked out interior :(
Hicken  +   220d ago
They're all concept cars, many of them created specifically for GT. Odds are they don't actually HAVE interiors.
Nujabes_  +   220d ago
So they took their times to create an entire car but no interior? Nice excuse there.
Hicken  +   219d ago
It's easy for some designers to draw up a concept of a car in a couple of hours, and for that concept to be digitized with little issue.

Creating an interior that goes with that car, however, is a very different task.

On that subject, ever notice how many concept cars are actually little more than hollow shells? A great number of them are simply exercise designs on wheels, with no drivetrain at all under the hood? Why? Because it's not needed, if you're just showing off the concept of what this potential production car- or concept that displays the potential future design elements of your brand- could look like.

Sounds an awful lot like what happened here, don't you think?

Oh, but I guess you wouldn't, seeing as you don't seem to be too well-versed in the automotive world like that.
WitWolfy  +   220d ago
I'll pass, this game got ruined the very moment those micro transactions got introduced.

Now it feels like I'm gaming against people who didn't grind a 1/3 of the time as much as what I did for the same vehicle. Now its just... "Nah im too lazy to actually grind for 1 000 000 Cr"... *shells out $10* "there we go!!!"

WTF!!!
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CryofSilence  +   220d ago
Or... they don't have as much game time as you (and possibly more income as the cause), so they buy credits rather than farming to experience all the game has to offer. It is not as reprehensible as you make it out to be.
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IIXIXI  +   219d ago
Nice way to defend micro transactions
SoulSercher620  +   220d ago
So you're FORCED to pay for microtransactions? Didn't think so. You can still play through the game the old fashioned way. If microtransactions as an OPTION is what's stopping you from playing this game then I feel sorry for you.
Baka-akaB  +   220d ago
Do you really expect the people shelling out that kind of money to be as skilled in the game than you ?

ANyway it's kind of a non issue to me . i'd yell if they purposedly made grinding for credit slower , to tempt you , if not force you , with monetary based boosts .

It's not . It's actually easy , quick and regular enough
Bathyj  +   220d ago
So you're going to miss the game because if how other people play it?
maniac76  +   220d ago
Oh! Is every ps4 game gunna have 'hd shawdows' lolz
r21  +   220d ago
Watching the video, they both look great, unless you really REALLY look into their deep detail and such. Though tbh, i was veering to GT6 as the better looking game though. My opinion of course, very excited to play it.
Mr Marvel  +   220d ago
This article is crap.

I've platinumed GT5 and (therefore) played the hell out of it.

I'm playing GT6 right now and I can tell you it DEFINITELY looks better. Some of the more scenic tracks look absolutely stunning too.
jerethdagryphon  +   220d ago
i get my copy later today :( tell me if the payout rate is similar i know the mt's were added to offset time of play but is it still feasable or are you gettign 100 credits a race
deathsarm  +   220d ago
i can see gt6 has better AA than gt5 other than that i cant see any difference
plmkoh  +   220d ago
MLAA vs GT5's quincunx/MSAA.

'Graphical downgrade' is more like because MLAA blur's everything, clearly the they are confused between that and an actual 'downgrade'.
NeoTribe  +   220d ago
Should have been a ps4 game.
Games_R_Us  +   220d ago
Console is at the end of its life, look how long it took for GT5 to come out! Donkeys years and again to wait ages for GT6, some things had to give. It makes sense to put less effort into those graphics and more sense to have it running at a far smoother frame rate. The game may look less impressive (only marginally) but I bet it runs better than GT5 in terms of feel and speed/frames etc.
Amiroo  +   220d ago
sadly there are some frame rate issues and tearing in GT6 as well
jerethdagryphon  +   219d ago
yes the 3 years between games really hurt gt5s sales 10 ,illion to date, forzas 18 month scedule means in total 1-5 they sold the same.......who made more money from it

and yes gt6 feels great saddly i was pipped at the post in my minivan :(
yewles1  +   220d ago
Wait... so having actual motion blur, darker and soft shadows are not only negatives, BUT COMPARABLE TO FORZA 5'S 'ACTUAL' DOWNGRADES??? WHAT???
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   220d ago
Ah, the O'l Forza 5 effect.
LordDhampire  +   220d ago
probably to cut down on those 20 minutes loading times gt5 had...serious the loading times were rediculous but yeah thats a big difference, racing games are pretty trash anyways and a new generation is out so who cares?

But the rest of the game doesn't look to bad
Nerdmaster  +   220d ago
And people said that this game would show next gen graphics on current (at that time) gen, that adaptive tessellation was the greatest thing ever and whatnot...
mayberry  +   220d ago
GT5 made my eyes bleed... so if this is true.. I don't care.. no more bloddy eyes!
pennywhyz  +   220d ago
LMFAO. But I dont trust these sites.I would need to see for myself
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ParanoidFreak  +   220d ago
Both games look great in their own regard. Me personally, I enjoy a crisper picture to motion blur. M/B looks washed out and gives me a headache for some reason (i.e. Killzone 2).

On a side note, for any racing game die-hards... do yourself a favor and check out Need For Speed: Shift 1. IMO, far and away the best racing game of this last gen. Graphics, physics, customization were all top notch. It was buried under GT5's large shadow. Shift 2 missed the mark oddly.
iLemon  +   220d ago
Both of these games look like an old title on medium settings. So many consulors are talking about graphics in such poor FPS games with such restrictive FOV. Are either one of these even 720p?
Picnic  +   220d ago
I hate Gran Turismo and don't even know what such a dull PC-game like game is doing as a Sony flagship game.

I loved my PS3 for other types of genres but there are too many Sony fanboys on here that they are in danger of making the PS4 uncool! One of the reasons that I loved my PS3 is so much is precisely because it was 'underrated' by anyone who didn't own one.

If you keep on making excuses for Sony games and don't admit truths like that Forza - or even Codemasters Grid 2 from this generation- are more exciting looking then you're going to end up turning the Playstation brand in to a reliable but increasingly predictable console.

It's a bit like why people bought the Megadrive. Too much slow Mario dominating.

A lot of Sony fans are turning in to slow Mario in their thinking. And they'll make the PS4 popular but uncool, like an increasingly confident geek that starts to think he's a ladies man.
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Baka-akaB  +   220d ago
i"m not even sure i get your point , but i'm probably slow lol

. There were always "cooler" , and more accessible arcade racers , or sims or hybrids to play instead of Gran turismo . GT was always in a corner of its own .

Hell you are some kind of proof in itself . You hate gran turismo right ? And yet it didnt seems to affect your gaming since the ps1 , despite it being one of the playstation flagships ever since it appeared .

If you find it got it too easy ... then you and other guys need to motivate other publishers into making a proper concurrent and rival . Not just games that occasional veer in its direction , then runs away from it , even if still great games .

The closest yet on console is Forza , wich admitelly got another focus , while a sim too .
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jerethdagryphon  +   219d ago
forrza looks nice graphically but exciting no sorry i played burnout ive had my fill of bright and shiney games these days exciting to me is 12 hour session on eigier trying to trim that last corner a little bit more to get gold, a game where the exileration in self challenge and real challenge makes you tremble with nerves thats excitment
PAPPACLART  +   220d ago
its BS, I played them back to back and the car models are allot better in GT6, allot sharper and better lighting
SilentSolid  +   220d ago
lol ^^
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