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Battlefield 4 Executive Producer Kicked from Own Game by Server Admin

A Battlefield 4 server admin noticed that DICE’s Patrick Bach was playing on their server and kicked him with the message “FIX THE GAME”. (Battlefield 4, PC, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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xHeavYx  +   240d ago
I wonder if it was a joke, otherwise that admin can say goodbye to his privileges.
Saints94  +   240d ago | Well said
Not when he's paying for it.
MWong  +   240d ago
Agreed and that was a perfect message to give Mr. Bach. FIX THE GAME with all this free time you have on your hands.
redwin  +   240d ago
Love it. Do it again and let him have it. This is why DRM is so scary, if you buy a mediocre product and it's not fixed, you don't have the "right" to resell it.
UltimateMaster  +   240d ago
He gets kicked out and he gets a message "Fix the Game".
Yeah, I'm guessing he'd better do it or else EA and Dice might loose a lot of money and reputation over these issues.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   240d ago
How exactly is it broken?

Serious question, I was planning to get the game early next year as more friends will probably get that than Killzone which I already own.

Also, despite Killzone being a great game, is not exactly my kind of multiplayer shooter... And quite frankly nor is Battlefield, what I really want is tactical shooters, but at least BF3 was good enough on hardcore.
Fluke_Skywalker  +   240d ago
@bishop It's buggier than frog shit on all platforms. The actual game is great when you actually get to play it but there are so many bugs that it just makes it more annoying than fun just now.
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KwietStorm  +   240d ago
lol yea right. I'm not saying I'm siding with anyone, but he paid for the game AND the server. That was his decision. You can certainly lose your privilages for abusing admin rights. And perhaps Bach was playing the game to look for active bugs. Isn't that logical?
Elwenil  +   240d ago
@bishop-br,

I can't speak for the other platforms but I can tell you how it's broken on PS4. Upon release, you could not play any Conquest mode and there were modes like Air Superiority and Capture the Flag listed that were not available. The Server Browser still lists endless numbers of empty servers and only rarely shows any that have players in them that you can join. There is no way for you to "squad up" with friends and join a game together. You can join a game your friends are on if there is room but it's a gamble on which side you are on. I have read that there is programming in place to allow players to join their friends in game and I have seen evidence of this on a few occasions but it's worthless if your friend joins a game and is put in a squad or team that is full and you can't join them. We had this issue with BF3 and I can't quite understand why they dropped the ball on this with BF4 when they knew it is important to the players. To invite another player to your game is a clumsy mess involving the main PS4 menu or going through Battlelog. Any Conquest map can crash but some seem more prone to it like Zavod 311, Siege of Shanghai, Operation Locker, Flood Zone and Dawnbreaker. These maps also suffer from a large amount of random lag spikes. Golmud Railway and Lancang Dam suffer from really bad audio issues that either intermittently wipe out all sound, the sound of vehicles, your own weapons, comms or any combination. It's not unusual to die in a vehicle because you never heard the lock on alarm of an incoming missile or rocket so you have to pay a lot of attention to the visual warnings, which are not 100% clear on the type of threat until it's too late. I've also experienced lag and odd things like driving a tank down an open paved road that slows down randomly which is usually accompanied by the sound of crashing metal like you are driving through a fence or light pole but there is nothing there. I have found that I can have enough XP to gain a level at the end of a match with the "bonus XP" we are getting as an apology and then when I join the next map, I'm still a couple thousand points from the level and I'm set back to the previous level. I gain it again in the first few minutes, but it's still disappointing. Then there are the usual issues with Battlefield since they came to consoles like the fact that bullets com out of your enemy's eyes and not their gun to they can shoot you with only their head peaking over a rock but while you can only see their head and are scoring hits by the hit indicator, you are not getting headshots and are not killing them. Cont...
Elwenil  +   240d ago
Continued from above...

Add all of that to the arrogance of EA saying they are not aware of any issues, the fact that you cannot directly contact EA or DICE with these issues and are at the mercy of their help forums and their overzealous moderators and just the infuriating fact that we paid our money for a broken product that they keep telling us to "be patient" when in any other industry there would already be lawsuits out the wazoo and all of this starts getting more than a little annoying.

The first thing they need to do is admit that they released an unfinished and broken product. Then they need to stop all the DLC and add-on crap and our all their resources into fixing the game on all platforms until the game is stable and operating as intended. If steps are not taken and they continue with their current arrogant stance, I encourage everyone who bought BF4, in the US at least, to contact the Better Business Bureau and your Attorney General and file complaints against EA. I assume people in other countries may have similar things in place for consumer complaints and I encourage you to take whatever steps you can as well. We were sold a unicorn that turned out to be a pig with a horn stuck on it and we deserve better. This BS should not be "expected" and it's disgusting that people consider this normal in this industry and people actually make excuses for it.
TekoIie  +   240d ago
@UltimateMaster

Damage is done. This was really the last screw up I was willing to put up with from EA. I won't be buying any future entries for this franchise.

Experiencing the ridiculous level of problems with this game just burnt the series out for me :/
YoungKingDoran  +   240d ago
@Elwenil
I hope you're qualified to be an architect.
Cause if that wall comes down, people gonna die.
But seriously, I want you on my debating team.
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BISHOP-BRASIL  +   239d ago
@Elwenil

Wow, I had no idea it was this bad, some of my friends already got the game and said it was unstable but playable, but doesn't seen like that... I'm definetelly not buying it unless they fix. Thank you!

@Off-topic

I'm usually not bothered by disagrees, but WTF just happened? Is everyone disagreeing with me asking a question? Or is it about Killzone?

If it's over my friends not getting Killzone, well I agree, their lost... If it's over not being my kind of multiplayer, it wasn't a dig at Killzone, not at all, I simply wanted BF for hardcore mode, a makeshift solution 'till H-Hour releases (Early 2015 I believe) or a new Socom is announced (but after Zipper was shut down I'm not holding my breath).

And yes, I know I'll get even more disagrees if I complain about them.
eclectified  +   240d ago
It makes me glad I never pursued programming or game development. When my work day is over, nobody expects me to go work some more beyond my shift.
TheLeapist  +   240d ago
Be gone with your logic and reason! It's not wanted here.
PurpHerbison  +   240d ago
Sometimes I wonder how many of these people complaining are actually sh*tty workers themselves.
SephirothX21  +   240d ago
It doesn't work like that. Programmers are not hanging on a string. The hours may be long but a programmer does not have to work extra hours to fix bugs unless they are given prior notice well in advance or it is explicitly stated in their contract. I know this because I am a programmer who has worked on big commercial projects that required a lot of periodic bug-fixing updates and enhancements.
itBourne  +   240d ago
Thank you lol, I was going to say the same thing, he doesnt need to spend every waking moment. Also if he is playing the game how is that a bad thing? If they do not play themselves they may as well be some suit, who makes all the decisions, yet doesnt know what the hell they are doing.
lawgone  +   239d ago
I don't know what job you have but if I complete a project and it's all f'ed up I am expected to fix it immediately. Then again, I'm salaried. But even being hourly doesn't mean you can release half a$$ed stuff and say "oh well, my shift is over." If you do you may not have a job pretty soon.
eclectified  +   239d ago
@Lawgone
I'm sorry if I struck a nerve with you. I didn't mean to imply that he (or anyone) should be okay with a poor launch. You're right! If someones work is garbage they should be dealt with accordingly.
Also, I certainly recognize that some jobs don't have set hours. Hell, I've seen leadership in previous jobs work upwards of 80 hours per week, and that sucks!

All I meant is that I have the luxury(if you want to call it that) of having a job where I'm not expected to worry about deadlines or launches in the way a programmer or developer would. Very seldom do I have to stay late. In fact, my employer doesn't want me to stay late as it usually means OT, but you can bet your rump that if I do, it's to ensure the job is done proper. :)
TopDudeMan  +   240d ago
That is brilliant!
DarthZoolu  +   240d ago
@xHeavyx On PC many people rent their own servers so they can set the rules and games the way they want. A dice employee can't just say "no more admin power for you" because who ever pays for the server has control over that.
StoutBEER  +   240d ago
Hoooooly shit! LOL I love Bach man, one of my favorite game designers... but this shit is freakin hilarious! XD
TAURUS-555  +   240d ago
so BF4 isnt working perfectly....hmmm i think im gonna stick to COD for a while now...
SHExLOOKEDx18  +   240d ago
/s
GAMExxOVER  +   240d ago
Perfectly? lol, I do not want perfect, I want it to just work. But I am done with it, Should have spent my money on COD.
Soc5  +   240d ago
It was a fake account, not really him, but its good that this gets out and gets noticed. Stop shipping unfinished games! Lots of games have issues but this is beyond that.
Neonridr  +   240d ago
lol, that's too funny.
Saints94  +   240d ago
HAHAHAH!
Majin-vegeta  +   240d ago
Hahahah serves him right.
OhhWerd  +   240d ago
BUY THAT MAN A BEER!
deadie  +   240d ago
:D
Ripsta7th  +   240d ago
Are other PS4 owners still experiencing issues with BF4? Mine has been working perfect since the last update
Aleithian  +   240d ago
Yeah, I still get vehicle audio cutout and the C-error. SP seems to be fine though.

And this is the best thing I'll read all day. Way to go server admin!
crazysammy  +   240d ago
Ive had this since day 1 on PC as well, still isn't fixed. We laugh about it now when it happens.
okmrman  +   240d ago
you dont play multiplayer dont you
mikegeezy69  +   240d ago
you don't english well do you?
Tvensky  +   240d ago
are you a teacher?

who cares.. I think more that half of people here cant speak proper English.. including me..

not because Im stupid.. its only 3d language I use daily..

just be happy we can understand each other!! ;)
KnottaTroll  +   240d ago
Huh?? ^^
Consoldtobots  +   240d ago
double negatives are painful to read. at least you don't see Americans mangling other languages.
Ripsta7th  +   240d ago
@Replies- oh ok thans for replies explaining, im gaming on ps4 and maybe twice a day i get loss of audio but is not game breaking. Really for plauers that havvent been able to enjoy bf4
Alsybub  +   240d ago
It was the same on BF3. Often had audio cutting out.
14Feb-R  +   240d ago
Few small problems but nothing that would make me angry :P

I'm a patience player lol
dillhole  +   240d ago
I've played about the first 2 hours of the campaign twice now and I just had my saved game data disappear for the 3rd time. Fuck that.
powerplayer25  +   240d ago
Yeah, I'm still having that issue too. Getting tired of replaying the first few missions.
RE_L_MAYER  +   240d ago
Whaat? Nevermind that game kicks you out randomly, the sound wont work half of the time but now when I start the game it wont even load main menu.i called it battlefield 3.5 for a good reason I guess
suc915  +   240d ago
Oh u mean the one that got postponed?
JetsFool3500  +   240d ago
Mines working perfect only thing wrong is I get audio cutouts on lancang & golmud. My bf4 only crashed once in the last week
DeadMansHand  +   240d ago
See, then its not working perfectly. If your audio cuts out on multiple maps and you still experience a crash then the game is broken. Just for the fact that people say, "hey I only lost connection twice today and almost half the maps have sound! Sweet!", means battlefield players are so beaten down that a semi running mess is a success.
JetsFool3500  +   240d ago
Not Really because it only happens on conquest & I hardly play that & crashing is nothing new to me because it happens to all games not just battlefield
mochachino  +   240d ago
I vote him gaming person of the year.
torchic  +   240d ago
LOL that's hilarious! what a great man ahahaha
MrPerfect813  +   240d ago
Anyone want to get give me a suggestion of which game to get into COD or BF4, just learning the ins and outs of multiplayer FPS aka NOOB lol
HeavenlySnipes  +   240d ago
You can learn how to play either game if you stick with it

COD is obviously easier to get a hang of but it gets old really fast
MrPerfect813  +   240d ago
Thanks, if it gets old fast, then I will lean BF4's way
OhhWerd  +   240d ago
BF has more variety, more things to do to support your team.

CoD is basically running in circles spraying rounds...
MrPerfect813  +   240d ago
Thanks, variety sounds like a good thing...hopefully they get some fixes in by the time i pick it up in a few days or so
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csreynolds  +   240d ago
CoD: Ghosts is very accessible but gameplay can get repetitive, and connection/lag plays a big part in how well you do in gunfights. Loadouts rely on perks. 6v6 matches (or 9v9 on next gen), and panders to the lone wolf mentality. The online community can be pretty poisonous, generally.

BF4 has a learning curve, but relies more on skill - thus winning feels more satisfying. No individual perks, but playing cooperatively can earn you various squad bonuses. 12v12 matches (or 32v32 on next gen), and embraces teamwork. A less venomous online community (from my own experience). Multiplayer also features vehicles (tanks, choppers, jets etc.)

I've played Call of Duty since 2007 and Battlefield since 2010, but after CoD: Ghosts (which I thought was rubbish) I moved over to Battlefield for good. Really enjoying it.
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XboxPS  +   240d ago
Battlefield 4 has 32 on next-gen?
I thought that It has 64.
Phoenix76  +   240d ago
@XboxPS - 32 vs 32 = 64. Although the game does go up to 66 with 2 people as Battle Commanders.
LiQuiZoN  +   240d ago
Killzone
Prettier
No crashes
Excellent gunplay
Free
DLC maps for life of product (6 maps)

Bf4 is garbage and cod is well...cod. I'm sure you've been there done that before
BlackTar187  +   240d ago
i disagree on KZ having excellent gun play.
LiQuiZoN  +   240d ago
Double post :(
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lawgone  +   239d ago
If you're new to FPSs I'd recommend COD. There is less to learn. Plus it works. It may get old to some but it's also very replayable. Just my opinion.
KAEM7  +   239d ago
go destiny ;)
iceman1346  +   240d ago
lololololololololololololol
CapsLocke  +   240d ago
News of the year! To the front page, quick!
DiLeCtioN  +   240d ago
I like Battlefield 4 but these servers are horrible. In my opinion they are not dedicated they feel more like host advantage.
Alsybub  +   240d ago
Do EA still insist on using their own servers on XBL? I would imagine that they do.
dethpuck  +   240d ago
The game is a mess and should have been delayed. It's quite embarrassing really
AllroundGamer  +   240d ago
serves him right, now someone should hack the credit cards of all the DICE employees and lock them down till they fix the netcode and all the bugs :) (looks like the executive producer is running here on N4G and disagreeing... :D )
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Hakoom  +   240d ago
Fix the game indeed...
they ruined bf really..
i would of given him the midle finger too lol
MasterCornholio  +   240d ago
Well done.

:)
ninjagoat  +   240d ago
Should have banned his ass.
LukeTVNow  +   240d ago
Anyone else bothered by the comment in the article that says it's a fake account?
ManaByte  +   240d ago
It's not. He even had the gold DICE dog tag. He removed it once this blew up.
Ducky  +   240d ago
It is a fake.

... but why fact check when you can get hits?
Hartsy  +   240d ago
I hope it was him, I really wanna find the person who did it and hi5 them!!
jacksjus  +   240d ago
How do they know that he wasn't playing to get a grasp on what was wrong to begin with? just a thought.
WeAreLegion  +   240d ago
My thoughts, exactly. Maybe he wanted some community feedback in the form of playing with them. They could literally point to issues right in front of him.
wannabe gamer  +   240d ago
that wasnt really bach, fake account name that will prob be gone soon thanks to this lol
Phoenix76  +   240d ago
I can understand the hostility towards DICE, yet at the same time I can't. DICE are pretty much paid and funded by EA, but yet, it's EA whom get to decide when a game gets released, even if its ready or not because they are out to please the shareholders whom keep them afloat. Whilst DICE are the one's left to deal with finishing off unfinished products after they have been released, and we the consumer put blame mostly at their feet, instead of the publisher's.
I find this kinda odd really.
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lawgone  +   239d ago
I put the blame mostly at EA's feet.
BattleTorn  +   240d ago
"why'd you kick me? I'm a producer of this game ;/"

"go fix your game then"
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RE_L_MAYER  +   240d ago
3.5 not 4
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SaffronCurse  +   240d ago
I really hope they fix these bugs soon. When the game works, it works really well. I could play for hours in Conquest if the game actually worked!
sovietsoldier  +   240d ago
mean while at dice.....

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DERKADER  +   240d ago
Releasing on XB360,PS3,XBONE,PS4,PC(DX11 and Mantle)and iOS/Andriod companion apps= unfinished games. They are spreading themselves to thin.
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Miskonius  +   240d ago
This is fake, the person that was kicked was not not Patrick Bach

http://battlelog.battlefiel...
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