Submitted by Nyxus 543d ago | news

Kojima: The Phantom Pain will come out when there are many PlayStation 4 owners

In a recent interview with Famitsu, Kojima talked about Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain's planned release. He explained again that the development of The Phantom Pain is a huge undertaking that is going to take some more time before completion. (Hideo Kojima, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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Godmars290  +   543d ago
A million isn't enough?

A million hard-core, first time adapters at that.
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Majin-vegeta  +   543d ago
More like 2-3 million
ABizzel1  +   543d ago
By those numbers that means it's coming out in February with the PS4 Japan launch :D

The PS4 is on a roll and it could sell as much as 10 million by holiday 2014.
hay  +   543d ago
I don't think Konami will agree on something less than 5m. I think they might aim at 8m install base minimum.
Eonjay  +   543d ago
So then it will release next month? Well at least he didn't say we have to wait for a lot of people to own an Xbox.
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HelpfulGamer  +   543d ago
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain sales target, 10 Million.
mikeslemonade  +   543d ago
Yuck.. why is this in the PS3 and 360 section too? It's confirmed for last-gen?
Insomnia_84  +   543d ago
I think he means once the PS4 is out in Japan, worldwide!
minimur12  +   543d ago
Its coming up out tommorow? O.o
vishmarx  +   543d ago
itll be at 5 million by the JAP launch easily.
plus 2 million xb1.GZ launches 14 spring add 6-10 months to it.and the nex gen systems combined will be at about 10-15 million by winter
safe to say next gen version will sell atleast around 4-5 million.
add that to say 10 miilion(ATLEAST) of the current gen version.(mgs4 sold about 5m if im not wrong.that time it had a terrible ps3 userbase and exclusivity.so yeah)
Jepedillo  +   543d ago
I think there are more than 2-3 million only in this line ^^ ...
Pixel_Enemy  +   543d ago
Why not have confidence in your game that it will move consoles. Seems lame to me.
abzdine  +   543d ago
Just see how many PS3 were there when MGS4 came out and you will have an idea MGS5 will be out
Soc5  +   543d ago
So like next month? :)
shysun  +   543d ago
@vishmarx Lets try not to say "J@P"....its not a nice word. ;)
tokugawa  +   543d ago
obviously they want to maximise profits.. how about that!
Reibooi  +   543d ago
I don't think it's about them just waiting to release it or something stupid like that. The game isn't close to done and because of that it's likely that many more people will own a PS4 by the time the game is ready and he is just stating that the game may come out when many more people own a PS4 and that will happen with time.
Ritsujun  +   543d ago
I'm sure he meant 5mil.
WMANUW  +   542d ago
@ABizzel1 the problem are the few stocks
MWong  +   542d ago
Funny statement, I could see if it was a console exclusive, but it's a multiplatform game. Just sounds weird why not say I'm waiting for more next-gen sells across all platforms.
Ranma1  +   543d ago
This is consistent with the install base graph here:


The higher the install base, the more games released, simple common sense. nothing special
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Ranma1  +   543d ago
p.s what i do find worrying is that the phantom pain and ground zeroes was initially supposed to be 1 game, then they split it


Makes me think games this gen will be shorter.

Makes me think ground zeroes (the first to be released) will be shorter than what we expect from an MGS game.
yellowgerbil  +   543d ago
thinking that ground zeroes will be really short (think Snake's part in MGS2) but phantom pain is open world, I've not seen an open world game yet that doesn't have at least 15hours of content even if the main story can be finished in 5 hours with a speed run.
ABeastNamedTariq  +   543d ago
Ground Zeroes is essentially an extended tutorial, so yes, it'll be much shorter than TPP.
Am_Ryder  +   543d ago
Ground Zeroes will still be an open world game, though- I'm looking forward to that immensely just to be able to free-roam with MGS mechanics. Will be unreal.

They've said it'll cost like $30, so it's about half of what you'd get from a regular MGS game. Which is still a lot tbh!
RumbleFish  +   542d ago
I think they will try to milk the series this gen and they will ruin it that way.

Makes me sad...
sigfredod  +   543d ago | Well said
Irrelevant the number of PS4 owners since the game is also on ps3, xbox360 an d xbone, so the install base will be hugue regardless
MizTv  +   543d ago
Good point
Not like it's a exclusive
The last of us sold around 3 - 4 million.. 80+ million ps3 owners..
DarkHeroZX  +   543d ago
So? Tomb Raider did 4 million across the ps3 and 360 install base. I dont see where your getting at.
Veneno  +   543d ago
If I remember right MGS4 guns of the patriots sold close to 5 million lifetime after it released to a 16 million install base of PS3s. So 1 in 4 PS3 owners bought the game. Being exclusive helped with that I'm sure.

But it looks like Kojima and Konami know that being on 4 platforms is going to dilute sales. So what will be their thought? Microtransactions and DLC.
cannon8800  +   543d ago

I think he means that it doesn't always matter if there is a large install base because a game (no matter how good it is) can sometimes sell very little.
TopDudeMan  +   543d ago
Yeah, first you bring out the games, then you sell consoles.
Pogmathoin  +   543d ago
Got to remember, even the successful games generally reach only maybe 10% of the install base.... So I can see where Kojima is coming from... Not every gamer has the same taste... Funny comment too Eonjay, made me droll...
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   543d ago
He's use to selling 6-8mil, so were not far off.
Magicite  +   543d ago
its around 4-5million PS4 sold in Japan.
PSX04  +   543d ago
we are here kojima please be note
pheature  +   543d ago
im fucking wrecked man i havent stoped playing mine since i got it.
no sleep man flat out on lucozaid like
N7KIRK  +   542d ago
I hope gamer's will one day realize that development studios and publishers are not there for the soul purpose of our enjoyment.
Godmars290  +   542d ago
But at the very least, they should give you an experience worth the initial price of admission. Not put you on the ride, then stop it to "ask" for more money.
N7KIRK  +   542d ago

Yes, I do agree. It just comes of as incredibly narrow-minded to read this article and simply think "even if they sold a million consoles?"

And this has nothing to do with the title being worth the price of admission. If we want developers to ensure a quality product, there is no room for thinking like that, especially this early.

There are just so, so many factors. Our opinions of what they should or shouldn't do with MGS5 has non at all, no merit to it. Just because you play their games, doesn't mean you know how they operate. Unless you work for Kojima Productions of course.
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worldwidegaming  +   542d ago
Greed shows its ugly head. A sad but true fact. Hardcore gamers dont matter but im cool with it. Would be cool if it was released in the US first.
RumbleFish  +   542d ago
I agree. Exept your release in US first crap.

Games should release simultaneously in all regions.
Ps4Console  +   542d ago
More like 80 Million in a year .
erathaol  +   542d ago
I'm struggling to describe what Kojima is, he's talented video game director who created one of the best video game franchises to date, who happens enjoy lighthearted trolling of the same fans who keep that franchise going.

He rewards the same fans by giving them great games but not without a few laughs in the mix. Its very much a charm of the whole thing.

Anyways, I say this cause its best to just wait for the game instead of constantly pestering him about a release date.
Iltapalanyymi  +   543d ago
Damn. I want it to come out asap after GZ.
MizTv  +   543d ago
It would of been nice if gz in spring and this in the fall of 2014
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jujubee88  +   543d ago
[Insert The Last Guardian joke here]
BG11579  +   543d ago
The game will comeout soon then.
weekev15  +   543d ago
Christmas 2014?
Sarcasm  +   543d ago
Earth to Kojima, If you make a PS4/MGSV bundle, imagine how many more PS4's + Copies of MGSV you will sell. Just like how the MGS4 PS3 bundle help sell the system.
greatcrusader44  +   543d ago
I was waiting for the Infamous bundle to buy a PS4 but if there is an MGSV edition PS4 I'd be all over that.
Flyingdog670  +   543d ago
Brack Friday Bunduru
MizTv  +   543d ago
Still want mgs4 for my vita
When he showed that a couple years ago I got very excited for nothing.....
iceman1346  +   543d ago
quick people buy some ps4's as soon as possible!!!
Rzep  +   543d ago
What a shit way to treat your fans...what a douche.
unknownhero1123  +   543d ago
yeah, selling the prologue separately from the main game is pretty douchy. If you want the full experience, you have to pay $90($30 for next gen digital download of GZ and $60 for PP). Imagine if they did this with the tanker chapter? This is going to set a dangerous trend next gen, worse than online passes.
Rzep  +   543d ago
Forget the prologue. As far as I am concerned this whole "we will realse when there are more consoles" idea is just ridiculous. It's just so dismissive of the large fanbase...
curtis92  +   543d ago
They put the tanker section of mgs2 as an incentive to buy the first ZOE. What's different? Now they're just selling it straight up. If you dont want to buy GZ I'm sure it'll be in PP as well.

This is no different than VR missions for MGS1 on psx. Or GT Prologue on PS3.
Goku781  +   543d ago
Not before Japan. But at this rate it could be next week if they wanted, provided the game is ready. But timing is everything for all the new games coming.
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cyphertech  +   543d ago
Go to hell Kojima. Too many japanese devs take this stance. Take forever to release games and leave it to western devs to get the generation started. Losing more and more interest in this game by the day.
curtis92  +   543d ago
I would agree if the game was done and waiting for release. It's still got a lot left in production though. THe install base will obviously be bigger when the game is finished.
jmac53  +   543d ago
This is why the Japanese developers are in trouble. They have become arrogant and complacent. Western Devs have taken over.
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OrangePowerz  +   543d ago
Isn't that game also comming to current gen? What does it matter how many PS4 owners there are when it comes for every platform anyway?
EXVirtual  +   543d ago
Maybe it's because the current gen versions will be extremely superior to last gen. The PS3 and 360 versions will be severely worse, meaning most people will want to get the next-gen versions.
MegaRay  +   543d ago
Why is everybody looking at me? O.O
Alright alright ill buy one I promise...
Inception  +   543d ago
Hmmm. Kojima released MGS 2 one and a half year after PS2 launched on the market. And MGS 4 two years after PS4 launch. So my prediction for Phantom Pain is 2015. I hope when Phantom Pain comes, Konami bundle it with Ground Zero or make it as one BD disc.
GrandpaSnake  +   543d ago
This is great, it is the kind of push that will guarantee a lot of players when metal gear online launches. even though mgs4 sold millions and so did mgs3 their online counterparts only had about 10,000 players at least now we will see a abundance of new players online! dont forget about mgo guys.
Yankeesfan239  +   543d ago
this is talking about the phantom pain not ground zeroes so gz could come a lot sooner
lildudexst  +   543d ago
-_- more people he full of shit. he was like nope ,we need to do better super delay this shit.we got 2 years people let do this.
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TristanPR77  +   543d ago
Sorry Kojima but with so many good games coming I don't care when you decide to release that game.
jmac53  +   543d ago
I am sure I will enjoy the actual game minus the ridiculous story and movie length cutscenes but Kojima is such a tool. I feel he is still living in the 80's thinking he is some sort of rockstar.
JasonRoseEh  +   543d ago
By the end of 2014 they could reach 10 million. I initially expected this game holiday 2014 so this lines up with that.
mediate-this  +   543d ago
There wont be trn million sold. I cant see it, maybe but i just dont see it
Sloth-Eater  +   543d ago
Metal Gear!?!
cyphertech  +   543d ago
Damn sloth. Kick him from the game.

I miss mgo :(
mediate-this  +   543d ago
Mgo is garbage.
Paul85  +   543d ago
Can't wait to play this game!!!
solidboss07  +   543d ago
I am a big fan of Kojima and MGS, but this already has a slight wiff about it.
If they are trying to cover the costs of Fox Engine then the just need to make some full games to sell, not this approach which they are taking.
What is the point of selling a 'tutorial' many months, or perhaps some years, apart from the main game? I doubt we would struggle to play your next game Hideo sans.

(Of coarse I will buy them, but my Soliton Radar will be scanning for ripoffs)
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mediate-this  +   543d ago
Hideo san? Are you weabo!??
feraldrgn  +   543d ago
One question, why did he say "many Playstation 4 owners"?
When it would make more sense to say "next gen console owners", I'd think?

I feel like he's trolling us again.
1nsomniac  +   543d ago
I can wait..
Kos-Mos  +   543d ago
I love delays because it always means quality.
Welcome2Die  +   543d ago
The Phantom Pain release date December 26th confirmed!
TrollCraftTales  +   543d ago
Everyone on the face of the earth must own a PlayStation 4 system for Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain to be released.

Called it...
modesign  +   543d ago
typical corporate sell-out response.
piffyd  +   543d ago
this is why I won't EVER buy a console in the first 2 years again

the launch games suck, and the first 2 years are a bunch of rushed shovelware
Gore-Content  +   542d ago
Yup. Playing it safe now, because the Japanese can't afford another failure.
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