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Ubisoft explains how digital prices are set on PlayStation Store and Xbox Games Store

Ubisoft has explained how digital prices are set on both PlayStation Store and Xbox Games Store, revealing that the cost of digital titles may not be identical across the two networks because of individual "pricing matrices" set by Sony and Microsoft. (Industry, Microsoft, PS3, PS4, Sony, Ubisoft, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

forcefullpower  +   730d ago
What a loads of bolloxs. You want to charge the same price as a physical disc. DD should be at least 5 or 10 quid cheaper than going to the shop.
colonel179  +   730d ago
Exactly! They save production costos, distribution costs, packaging costs, etc and they still want to charge the same.

When the Vita was announced, they confirmed that Digital Games will be cheaper. It never happened.
MasterChief3624  +   730d ago
Actually it did happen. A majority of first-party digital Vita titles are $5 cheaper than their physical counterparts
bradfh  +   730d ago
Also you can resell your game dvd and get some money back, you cant do this with a digital download.
admiralvic  +   730d ago
@ Masterchief3624

Actually, a good percent of all physical games are cheaper than their physical counterparts, not just first-party titles.
nukeitall  +   730d ago
If MS vision of digital future would have gone through, buying a physical disc would have given you all the benefits of digital download for the lowered physical disc price!


"When the Vita was announced, they confirmed that Digital Games will be cheaper. It never happened. "

There has been a lot of promises on PSP and PS Vita. Remember how Sony promised day and date release on PSP Go (digital) and PSP?

Never happened. Instead, you were treated to an early demise of PSP Go in favor of the older system PSP!
forcefullpower  +   730d ago

But you wouldn't be able to buy the physical disc cheaper if Microsoft had there way as they were going to destroyed the used game market. i.e. end of cheap games.
dcj0524  +   730d ago
$5 cheaper my man. You can buy a sub with that.
_FantasmA_  +   730d ago
How do you have more agrees than disagrees? Digital is actually cheaper on the Vita. I actually bought Zero Escape, PS All Stars, and Killzone Mercenary digitally because they were cheaper by about $7-10.
SilentNegotiator  +   730d ago
They're only shooting themselves in the foot by not doing that. If my choice is "Disc with resale value and neat case to put on shelf" and "same priced DL", the choice is obvious.

"How do you have more agrees than disagrees? Digital is actually cheaper on the Vita"

Because no one has a Vita due to the fact that there isn't a lot worth playing on the most expensive handheld.
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Tyborg  +   730d ago
How many quid does a new game cost?
Unreal01  +   730d ago
Mikelarry  +   730d ago
there is no explanation other than greed nothing, nada you cannot charge more than physical copy it does not make sense to anybody but these greedy companies. as much as they tout this digital future i fear they are the biggest road blocks to that future.
Onehandband1t  +   730d ago
I can only assume its something that Sony and Microsoft have discussed with retail shops to keep them in business,

Just think, if all digital games were significantly cheaper than retail counterparts, shops like GAME and Gamestop would soon disappear.

I don't agree with the pricing for digital games, but we will have to wait and see what the future holds
forcefullpower  +   730d ago
Steam seems to able to achieve it very easily. Even if you go to blizzard or origin I always seem to find there prices never change either.

I am keeping fingers crossed that Steam will come through as an alternative.
MizTv  +   730d ago
I agree
Why can I get games on steam for $10 and it's like $40 on the other networks?
If these company's want to push digital then they need to make it worth it
It should be like half of disc price
admiralvic  +   730d ago
@ Onehandband1t

I doubt it. A lot of retail stores do sales and deals, which typically makes them cheaper than any digital game. Like, BestBuy was doing $20 dollar credit vouchers for some games (like BioShock Infinite) with preorder, which is probably more of a discount than you would see digitally on day 1. We also had Targets B2G1 free sale, which also brought day 1 games down to $40 dollars.

Not to mention, the ability to sell the games and store discounts will always make them appealing. Sure digital would affect it, but I wouldn't rush to the PSN to download a 30+ gb game to save $10 dollars when I can buy a physical version, save the download and sell it for $10 (in most cases) with ease.
Death  +   730d ago
They save costs and they don't save costs. It depends on what both Sony and Microsoft charge to distribute it. Both companies offer tiered pricing, in this case Microsoft had a lower price teir that Ubi was able to use and still make what they projected. Sony didn't have a price teir as close so they had to charge more for the digital copy on PSN. Alot is determined by what Sony or Microsoft charge. Judging by the article it looks like Sony is charging more to the publishers to distribute their games.
Death  +   730d ago
For the disagrees, read the article. Both Ubi and EA had to reduce their prices on the PS4 to match Xbox One online prices. The article is very clear on how the price tiers work. To make the same profit on each console the PS4 price was higher. Both Ubi and EA lowered their prices to match the Xbox price. This would not have been necessary if Sony was charging the same or offered the same tiered pricing as Microsoft.
aquamala  +   730d ago
Do you know how much it costs to sell a game on psn/xbl compared to physical copies? Yeah I don't either, that's all under NDA. What if they are more expensive than physical copies because of sony/ms fees? "Greedy" Game publishers may not be the ones to blame here
denero1  +   730d ago
Welllllll >.> wouldn't that kind of go against what some sony/ms reps have said about digital being cheaper?
AnotherProGamer  +   730d ago
I remember reading somewhere if Sony/MS put the prices of the games less than the physical prices than Gamestop will not stock/sell there games.
dragon82  +   730d ago
This seems to be the case across the board. Most retail stores would not be happy about it and would threaten to not sell their products. This might not be a problem for software but it would be a huge problem if they stopped stocking hardware and accessories.
Kaze88  +   730d ago
The problem is that currently around 70-80% games are sold by Walmart, Gamestop and Amazon....they say to MS and Sony or 3rd party publisher "sell these games on same price or we wont sell your game in our store" so you will likely loose 70-80% off the sales...none wants to oppose that. On pc its the other way around, most of the games are sold digitally so thats why games are dirty cheap on pc in steam etc.
_FantasmA_  +   730d ago
But if there are no knew games in stores then GS fails. They would only have used games and considering the online passes, maps, etc that come with new copies, I don't think GS would last that long. I think digital should be cheaper to offset the physical disk costs. It creates competion. PSN against GS, Digital against physical, driving against waiting for a download.
Kaze88  +   728d ago
@Fantasma yeah they couldnt make it without new games but also publishers cant make without them either. They are kinda like necessary evil to each other.
Qwagy UK  +   730d ago
Chrono  +   730d ago
Instead of finding ways to improve digital sales, they're making them worse.
nikrel  +   730d ago
There is no reason to buy digital games when the physical is so competitive.

PC digital is a different story everything is dirt cheap & changes daily if needed, the digital market on PC is like the Physical market for consoles.
Onehandband1t  +   730d ago
So Microsoft and Sony feel its fair to charge these prices for digital download games. I understand there is a royalty inc in the price but it's digital. No resale value or shiny box to put on you shelf and yet it's fine to charge the same price.

Also don't forget that you are not only paying the same price for a digital game but then you have to add your bandwidth costs on top.
I am on unlimited so its not an issue really but with the size of next gen games, some people will be charged further for exceeding there total broadband usage. Pretty much a lose lose situation for some.

And yet Steams digital service you can pick up most brand new games for an average of £35 compared to Sony and Microsoft's £54.99, not to mention if you pre purchase games on steam you tend to get a further reduction. And with steam game trading in the works, there is resale value on digital purchases.

I can understand to an extent that gamers respective to there consoles get to use a premium service to purchase digital content for convenience, but it is a bit of a joke.

Looks as though the digital only future for consoles is pretty distant
monkey nuts  +   730d ago
Games will never sell at £55. Prices have always been in the £35 to £45 range here in the uk. If they think they can get away with charging more for games when the ps4 and xbone are easier to develop for due to their x86 architecture then they are in for one hell of a shock. Granted, the hardcore may pay those prices, but hardly anyone else will. Greed will imprison us all............
KonsoruMasuta  +   730d ago
Physical still comes out on top. That digital future is not coming anytime soon with these prices.
fluke8  +   730d ago
I have never purchased a full price digital download game from the playstation store because I can almost always find a better deal for the disk version. I really wish they would offer more competitive prices like steam because I love having DD games on my system. It makes switching between games so much easier.
Half-Mafia  +   730d ago
Here's one reason digital can go fuck off. In a month or so the prices are going to be the same but at retail it will probably be £10 cheaper.
wheresmymonkey  +   730d ago
I see It's the platform holers fault not ubis silly me. So what's your excuse on the WiiU then, since publishers set their own prices.
TechnoSphere  +   730d ago
This is just greed.
Lets see.
1.lower distro cost (digital still needs to be hosted). physical media cost. retail cost.
4.Digital games can't be resold.
5.Better DRM/anti-pirate options.

Yet they still ask the same or more!

Sorry we are not THAT dense.
DARK WITNESS  +   730d ago
It's economics boys... at the end of the day the only reason MS and Sony think it's ok is because let them think it's ok.

The masses going out and buying digital are sending them the message that they are willing to pay at the current price for the content being offered.

The only way it will change is if we change out purchasing habits.

What makes me laugh is all the xbox fans saying that MS's original concept with DRM was all great because it meant we would get Steam like prices on xbox live digital sales... hahahaahhahaah.. really....
Evil_Abed  +   730d ago
So Sony are the problem then?
DARK WITNESS  +   730d ago
They really seem to think we are stupid or something..
VaddixBell  +   730d ago
This is why we can't have nice things, because there's no competition on the digital front for console, they feel no need to have competitive prices.

But because of greed, people are going to roundly reject the digital only future on these consoles for the foreseeable future and when any of these companies complain about 2nd hand sales, I'll have no sympathy for them.
infectedaztec  +   730d ago
With the DRM policies MS planned to bring to this gen they were trying to cut physical copies out of the market. But you gamers threw your toys at the pram and screamed bloody murder.
XBL was going the way of steam and you stopped that. The reason they cant lower digital prices now is they depend too much on physical sales. Gamestop could stop selling games in retaliation to being undercut.
This was on the horizon for PSN too, but gamer conservatism has slowed it down considerably
Unreal01  +   730d ago
No, there's no real reason not to reduce prices now. It should be a slow progression to digital, not being forced like Microsoft were trying. If that happened I would guarantee digital prices would be no where near Steam prices. I personally think streaming will be the future of gaming, not digital download.
TechnoSphere  +   730d ago
Don't want the lag (display and input).
Seafort  +   730d ago
If you think that Microsoft wanted a digital future like Steam and their bargain prices you are very much mistaken.
MS likes money too much. A lot more than their customers rights.

All they wanted to do was stop used game sales so they could create a monopoly on pricing on their store. I mean if it was digital only where else would you buy the games and what choice would you have to accept their prices if you wanted to play Xbone games? None, that's what. None at all.

I'm expecting MS to bring back their DRM console in a year or 2 when no one expects it. They're just waiting for people to get complacent and BAM! In goes the DRM patch. They got you hook, line and sinker :)
infectedaztec  +   730d ago
There is no such thing as a business that doesn't like money
DARK WITNESS  +   730d ago
xbox live was going the way of steam... are you serious... you actually think that..

No, by cutting discs out of the market they would simply make even more money from us because digital would be the only option. as they have shown already they will just keep the price the same but at their end they have reduced costs because no more discs.

make no mistake, xbox live is NOT steam, if they wanted to compete they could have started last gen with the digital titles back then.

PC still has games sold on disc, but steam still manage to lower prices and by doing so they have captured the market.

these guys want to scrap discs and not offer the same price drops and you think we are stupid enough to fall for this crap about them wanting to be like steam ?
boeso  +   730d ago
Keep pushing them peeps, and they'll have to change it a la X1 DRM.
TechnoSphere  +   730d ago
I won't push anything,I'll just stick with boxed copy.
r3f1cul  +   730d ago
i know its not going to happen anytime soon but i wish it was just a 3 party thing in games by that i mean the game developer deals with the console, and they deal with the customers cut gamestop out of the picture completely im fine with digital downloads as long as they dont charge the extra fee for the plastic case, disc, booklet whatever else is involved in that. im pumped for day 1 digital downloads but it is a bit shitty that i still am going to pay the same for it as i would an actual physical copy but with having to install every disc to play anyways i see no point in owning a disc... its a waste of time
AgitatedOcelot  +   730d ago
You guys aren't fooling anyone. Steam called all of you on your bullshit long ago and continues to make fools of you with their sales.
KingDadXVI  +   730d ago
So Sony being the vendor is ultimately responsible for the prices on PSN. Was there some gouging going on here?

You would think that with DRM being much easier for a digital download that they would be cutting the prices so that more people would adopt them thus decreasing used game sales and piracy. Strange.
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Big-Bruizzer  +   729d ago
For all those digital only gamers, all I can say is sorry, it sucks to be you. Enjoy those prices while I get deep discounts on the physical disks. Don't complain, it's what you wanted. Enjoy.

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