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Gran Turismo 6 Vs Forza Motorsport 5: Next-Gen Graphics Leap Is Obvious

Gaming Blend "While the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have seemingly stumbled out of the gate like a drunk and disorderly Amanda Bynes, the reality is that there is a remarkable difference in the graphical leap from seventh gen to eighth gen, even if some games don't seem like it." (Forza Motorsport 5, Gran Turismo 6, PS3, Xbox One)

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kiz2694  +   301d ago
I would say subtle, not obvious. I can only see better AA.
abzdine  +   301d ago
i'm not sure that's GT6.
for a better and fair comparison not a garbage video like the one in the article, check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
FITgamer  +   301d ago
It's from the GT Academy demo, all the promos on the track say GT Academy.
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aceitman  +   301d ago
to be fair it should be done with the final builds , the video u have is from e3 build and we no it got downgraded big time .
FamilyGuy  +   301d ago
Cinemablend is f'n up with this.

It's really nice that they compared two of the exact same tracks on wo different games but they did a crappy job on checking their source material.

Neither video represents the game they are labeled after making the title and entire comparison fake.
Use real GT6 footage versus real Forza 5 footage.
timotim  +   301d ago
@abzine

Lol...nice try, that is from the final build of Forza 5 as Silverstone was never shown at all during E3. The only track the the E3 build ever publicly shown was Prague. I actually have the game and thats the final build.
Tvensky  +   301d ago
lol, Xbox one has reached PS3 level.. based on the video!!
inveni0  +   300d ago
The stupidest thing about this is that they aren't using the same lighting engine or road textures, and that is what makes the biggest difference. Even GT7 on PS4 could grant the same sort of differences. So this isn't really a comparison of generations. It's a comparison of game engines.
Computersaysno  +   301d ago
GT6 has the most realistic colour palette of any console racer.

It also runs with a stupendous resolution for last gen hardware 1440 x 1080 on the demo earlier. Thats amazing for a sim aiming at 60FPS on a 7 year year old console.

The difference is there, but its not absolutely mind blowingly huge.

Just imagine what Polyphony could do with PS4 seeing how hard they push PS3. DROOL!
Me-Time  +   301d ago
It's from the GT6 GT Academy demo that came out months ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here are much more recent builds of the game. Notice that Suzuka East has people in the stands and photographers.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The game isn't graphically/visually able to do that simply because there aren't any other cars on the track.

This video is of a race on a new track in GT which has time change and weather being showcased with people and photographers watching and with the checkered flag at the end of the race as the race was over by the time the driver got to the finish line.
http://www.gtplanet.net/gt6...

And recent Willow Springs, Streets of Willow track videos. There's only one other that I know of for this particular track, but it sucks BAAAAD.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

edit -
I posted the wrong link to one of the videos, but changed it now.
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Me-Time  +   300d ago
Wait, there's another.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Me-Time  +   300d ago
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
It was Dai Yoshihara drifting in that first video and in this one they (the creators) talk about the GPS data visualizer.
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ExitToExisT  +   301d ago
Fanboyism has a limit you know..
Harmy666  +   301d ago
This video isn't very good for the purpose of a comparison. All settings need to be the same;

same weather
same car
same track (I know it was the same track...)

With all of those setting the same, you could compare them, but this doesn't help one or the other "win" a comparison video...
CryofSilence  +   301d ago
To be honest, there isn't a huge difference. It's fairly clear that Forza looks better, but it's not quite a generational leap. I will end up with GT6 because I'm a fan of the series and I don't have enough reason to jump to the next generation yet (hopefully, The Order: 1886 will change that).
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bunfighterii  +   301d ago
Yeah AA was the most discernible. They should have zoomed out and shown the cars too. It'd be good to get up close car model comparisons.
Trekster_Gamer  +   301d ago
The video quality was not very good. Forza as always blows away GT. If they had shown the cockpit, exterior views and all of the features this would be obvious, even to the fanboys, although most are not honest enough to admit it.
frostypants  +   301d ago
Trekster_Gamer, sorry, but that isn't GT6 in the video. It's not even running in the correct resolution, and the textures are all far below what even GT5 had.
frostypants  +   301d ago
Dude, you're blind if you don't think the video on the bottom looks way better. Better AA, better textures. THAT SAID...THE VIDEO ON TOP IS NOT GT6. Go look at any gameplay video of GT6 out there. That is GT on the PS2 or something.
GT67  +   301d ago
Question for all : if the ps4-X1 was planned,designed after ps3-360 launched back in 2005-06 7 years of development time why do we have such issues now?? i mean 7 years is a looooong time to test for disc trays malfunctions, loading time testing (X1) heat paste for heatsink done correctly (ps4) we would not need a guy on youtube disassemble his ps4 to show "how-to fix" video. where was Quality assurance and testers team during those 7 years????.
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thehitman  +   301d ago
Thats because most of the time its engineering and concept in the first few years. Cerny said they worked on the ps4 about 5 years ago I assume they also had to wait for new tech etc as it was being brought out. Then there is always the manufacturing part wont always be perfect ever when it comes to making hardware. I can link you to any electronic product and you will always see bad reviews of people who get dead products or defectives even way after the product has been brought out. The internet has highlighted everything and put things in the spotlight so much that it seems like this is new or out of the norm when its not.
GT67  +   301d ago
its ok HITMAN. it was a thought and thought i throw it out there for feed back not for agrees or disagrees. i always say if you dont know something throw it out in the fire someone will answer it.
thanks for the info "defective new product" from the begining and glad internet give us consumers insight info on electronic that manufacture step-up their A game.
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BallsEye  +   301d ago
Seems to me they went 2 player split-screen on both consoles (big graphic downgrade) then cut out 1 player screen from each and put them together. Also cars are not even shown. This comparison could be much better. On side note, yes leap is huge once you play both like they should be played. Whoever think otheriwse is fooling himself.
GT67  +   301d ago
after reviewing the gameplay in my PERSONAL opinion.
on the left video GT6 graphic look more close to GT 1 ps1 lighting and shades. and forza 5 lighting and shades look close to life-like graphic's....said close to life-like did not say they are.though i am disappointed in the environment coloring in GT6 especially the grass and dirt brought back memories of ps1-ps2 GT enviroment. at lease in this video make it look ps1-2 era
mk4002  +   301d ago
The GT6 footage is interlaced 1080i and creating those artifacts. That was not a fair comparison at all.
sentury111  +   301d ago
You guys don't want to see the huge leap in visuals. Or just willfully ignore it.

Here's a great video of a side by side race, Real Life vs. Forza 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

What's I'd like to see is Forza 4 vs. GT6 or GT5 vs. GT6 since that'd be a more fair battle.
kiz2694  +   300d ago
That comparison was even worse, was that real life footage captured using a nokia 100?
Snookies12  +   301d ago
They should compare GT6 to Driveclub. That is a big difference.
Abash  +   301d ago
Gran Turismo 6 still looks fantastic compared to a racer on a next gen system. The thing that makes me excited for GT6 though is the boatload of content it has
frostypants  +   301d ago
That is absolutely 100% not GT6.

Sorry, gonna use all my bubbles pointing this out. Go look on Youtube for GT6 gameplay videos.
Stsonic  +   301d ago
Their needs to be some universal movement where comparing games on youtube becomes illegal.
FITgamer  +   301d ago
Both games look bad on this video, smh.

Edit: The GT 6 footage is from the GT Academy demo, not sure if this qualifies for a fair comparison considering its not the final build.
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MRMagoo123  +   301d ago
Thats not even the retail aka downgraded version of forza5 right , it looks like there are 3d crowds not the cutout paper 2d ones in the retail version. They still arent that far off each other tho lol, poor forza5 half the game forza4 was and now costs $100 for a good car
FITgamer  +   301d ago
Yeah this comparison is joke. The GT 6 footage is a demo from August and the Forza 5 footage is from the original buld from E3. To be honest not sure why they compare GT to Forza. Forza isn't even a true sim and won't be until they add weather effects and night racing. Both of which are very real aspects of racing. Not to mention that in Forza 5 you can earn a gold ranking without placing first in a race.
GribbleGrunger  +   301d ago
Apart from the fact they managed to get bad footage of GT6, I don't see much of a difference. Nice to see real time lighting in GT6 which is probably why it has night and day cycles too.

Here's some better quality footage of GT6: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here's the crowds in Forza 5. And no, this isn't a fake, they are actually from the game:

http://i.imgur.com/cssuYeS....
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Kayant  +   301d ago
Seriously the crowd thing just feels so out of place & very last minute with the duplicates & the fact it's people from the development team. IMO they should have just cut it out completely.

Also looool at the fact GT6 has 3D crowds.
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MatrixxGT  +   301d ago
Didn't turn 10 say with the power of the cloud forza5 wouldn't be possible? People saying cloud can do processing shouldn't 3d crowds be easily done in cloud and maybe 2d crowds for those offline folks. Just a thought it kind of sad really.
Shane Kim  +   301d ago
They have cut so many corners with Forza it's not even funny. No wonder it looks good when there is no other thing to worry about than the cars gfx.
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Trekster_Gamer  +   301d ago
The optometrist called and advised your prescription is ready.
Nujabes_  +   301d ago
You you see the hypocrisy in your comment?

First you say they got bad footage from GT6, then you go and pick the best footage you can find.

You then proceed to pick the worst picture of FM5 you can find, just to make the game look bad.

You realize you're doing the same thing those guys are (according to you) doing?
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FamilyGuy  +   301d ago
These guys are showing footage from a game that is not GT6 yet they're calling it GT6.

These guys are showing footage from the E3 build of Forza 5 that is not representative of the final build whatsoever.

IN CONTRAST

He is showing the ACTUAL GT6 and
He is showing the ACTUAL Forza 5

The difference is much bigger than "showing the best of one and the worst of another".
You should be able to pick any spot on any track to showcase the games as long as they're in proper video quality. There shouldn't be a "best" or "worst" as the games should look good in all aspects. Blame Turn 10 for placing those eye-sore cut outs in an otherwise pretty game.
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HighResHero  +   301d ago
I was going to mention that sites trying to prove something usually pick and choose what footage they use.
Of course it's also funny that we continue to see sites using youtube footage for high resolution comparisons.
GribbleGrunger  +   301d ago
@Nujabes: What the heck are you talking about? Are you suggesting I should have found a higher resolution picture of the cut-out crowds in Forza 5? I can assure you, even in 1080p, they still look like cut-outs. I'm not being selective, that is how they look in the game, but the footage of GT6 is NOT what it looks like in game
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Nujabes_  +   301d ago
You nit picked. You took a bad part of Forza and compared with a video of GT6. I'm sure if you dig around you can find ugly 2d trees on GT6 too. Why didn't you do that?
GribbleGrunger  +   301d ago
It's a video trying to demonstrate what next gen looks like next to current gen and does a pretty bad job of it. I've posted a picture from a next gen game showing how they're using PS2 gen techniques in a next gen game. If people are going to open these debates up then I'm going to contribute. I very seldom bother with things like this unless they're clearly biased, as is this article.

The truth is, Forza 5 isn't what you would call a next gen title. It's really an upressed version of Forza 4, but for some reason certain sites are completely overlooking this. I'm not saying it's a bad game but to hold this game up as an example of what next gen means is completely erroneous.
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frostypants  +   301d ago
That isn't even GT6 footage. It's GT on the PS2 or Forza on the original Xbox. Come on people...you're being uber-trolled.
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Tigan  +   301d ago
Does it really matter what the crowd looks like? If your buying a game like forza or gt it isn't for crowds or trees in the game. Forza is next gen running on better hardware but that's not to say that gt6 looks bad by any means.
Xsilver  +   301d ago
Obvious my ass
stuna1  +   301d ago
As far as lighting, all one has to do is look at the Tarmac to see the sun reflecting off of the track in the GT6 model. Although I will say that the track and structures are rendered better in the Forza5 video, notice that there wasn't any visuals on the cars themselves, why? Because, the car models in Forza5 kind of looks out of place, or to put it the background pops more than the car models do! I know because I played it at a Microsoft store yesterday, as well as other games.

@godmars290

Totally agree.
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Godmars290  +   301d ago
Regardless, one offers far more content - at the base price - than the other.

Its a pity that the difference between them isn't that big that the slight graphical quality will be used as more to judge them than the actual quality.

Edit: though thinking about it, regardless of review differences, GT6 will slam dunk sales. Only in part of install base.
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Max-Zorin  +   301d ago
Forza: fun
Grand Turismo: fun

Their fans: The equivalent to kicking a hornets nest.
MidnytRain  +   301d ago
Wait, aren't hornets' nests in trees? How do you...?
Shane Kim  +   301d ago
With a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick.
MRMagoo123  +   301d ago
ROADHOUSE! style
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modesign  +   301d ago
i wouldnt call it a "leap" its more of tiptoe.
Whiskeyjacked87  +   301d ago
@etownone Ill accept that it looks better when you accept that 1080p matters in comparison to 720p.
etownone  +   301d ago
Umm... Isn't Forza 1080p?

Or forget it.... You changing the topic, and grasping at staws.
Hicken  +   301d ago
It makes as much sense as comparing a fully finished game to a months-old demo.

Tell ya what: let's compare Forza 5's E3 build to the launch build. I guarantee you there's a bigger gap there than there is here... one that's made less noticeable by it not being the same time of day, AND by it being a crappy quality Youtube video.

Oh, but let's forget all that so you can say Forza looks better, even though it's marginal, if at all.

... and you say someone else is grasping at straws.
Whiskeyjacked87  +   301d ago
And yes I'm a PlayStation fanboy.
LetTheWookieeWin  +   301d ago
How about comparing Forza 5 to Drive Club. Forza 5 will look last gen.
awesomeisjayell  +   301d ago
SONY = TRASH also Forza 4 looks better than GT6.
Unreal01  +   301d ago
...wow.
CernaML  +   301d ago
Shouldnt you be in Sunday school?
Gamer-40  +   301d ago
Forza 4 looks better than GT6.

Funny. NO.
yewles1  +   301d ago
BAH! This off-screen footage of GT6 looks better.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Harmonizer  +   301d ago
Obvious yes. Textures are sharper. But GT6 looks much better. The colours and the lighting makes it a better looking game. Forza looks really...grey and brown. Might be the weather ?
ANIALATOR136  +   301d ago
forza actually looks more like the real track in terms of the weather tone though. Gran Turismo holds up very well though
Pintheshadows  +   301d ago
The fact that someone even bothered to do this shows how good GT6 looks for a PS3 racer.
Bathyj  +   301d ago
Why is the lighting so much better on GT6?

I havent really weighted in at all on this baked lighting thing, but Forza seems to lack shadows and sun reflecting on the road that just look so much better on GT.

Anyway, this is just a crappy youtube video so you cant tell either games strengths, but I would say the difference is subtle at best and if this is the reason to get an Xbone, I dont think its worth a $AU600 console, a $AU90 game and a Thrustmaster (whatever that costs) when I already have a PS3 and a G25.
Whiskeyjacked87  +   301d ago
@etownone if you like 1080p paper cutouts Keep comparing x1 to ps3, thats about all they will beable to compare too.
cyberninja  +   301d ago
Obvious troll is obvious.
Majin-vegeta  +   301d ago
This is what i'm mostly looking forward to in GT6.
http://jalopnik.com/gran-tu...
Bathyj  +   301d ago
Thats an amazing feature. What a great thing for a racing game to be able to drive a road you drive every day. I'll be going to work in real life trying to beat my GT time. (Just kidding Mr Policeman.) But reversely my 15 minute drive to work might take about 5 in GT. That will be fun.

And its all the more impressive considering Forza has 14 (is it?) tracks. Thats pitiful.

The fact theyre comparing an Xbone game to a PS3 game means its already lost at least featurewise. Which one of these games is the next one again?
bassambient  +   301d ago
OOOOOOOOvioussss forza look by far 1000000000 better than GT6
solidboss07  +   301d ago
This article was 'teri-bad', and what fucking language is this? Why not compare Forza 5 to Forza 4, would make sense? As you used GT6, why not compare GT6 to F4?
GT6 is great looking, new consoles do not make it suddenly crap. Yes, it is missing the next gen polish, but Forza is hardly next-gen.... yet.
I thought Project Cars was shaping up nicely, but until we see some real meat then it can be just Vapor-ware as far as I am concerned
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cyguration  +   301d ago
You do know you can play Project Cars right now and all the footage of the game comes from people actually playing it, right?
solidboss07  +   300d ago
Thank you for that. It does look good, I especially like their smoke, dust, exhaust flames, water effects, and the movement of the cars bouncing on their suspension. Discounting resolution ect these visual effects lift it above anything I have played. I hope it is nearly ready (and GT6 approaches it).
gigoran  +   301d ago
The financial leap is also obvious. Forza charging above $80 for 1 single car??? Microsoftcck at their finest!
Orbilator  +   301d ago
Stunned.........
imt558  +   301d ago
Forza has day/night cycle, change weather, right?
Majin-vegeta  +   301d ago
Nope.
imt558  +   301d ago
Yes, i know! I'm just sarcastic.:D
1nsomniac  +   301d ago
Its crazy that a "next gen" console/game can't beat a last gen console/game!

That's pretty shameful & damming evidence right there!

For whatever reason I don't know why but Microsoft just didn't put enough effort into the console, it just seems as if they didn't care that much.
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teo72  +   301d ago
It's bad enough to compare FM5 an Xbone game with GT6 an PS3 game, but seeing that FM5 is graphically only marginally better in that video. That's just sad. Wait until Driveclub comes out. Xbone vs PS4. That would be fair.
MainstreamGamer  +   301d ago
And you know what the Xbox fanboys will say "but but but DriveClub had more time....." They will make an excuse for everything. Its always one reason or another with fanboys
smashcrashbash  +   301d ago
And despite every attempt to kick it down GT6 will STILL sell better then Forza 5 will.
mostwanted620  +   301d ago
I don't think its fair to compare the games. One us running on new hardware the other on old hardware
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