In an recent artical with timesonline.co.uk, Leslie Benzies one of the leading Gran Theft Auto IV producers stated that he suspects the overal cost to create GTA IV was around the $100million mark.
omg. More money spent can only mean good things for me.
@ Below
"rumored $40million budget for Killzone 2"
Why would that game have a budget like that...at least in GTA's case they'll see a return. I highly doubt KIllzone is gonna sell that well (well enough to justify a 40 million dollar price tag).
Does kind of make the rumored $40million budget for Killzone 2 look rather small
Edit - To above
'Why would that game have a budget like that.'
Simple they want to make it as good as possible, you also have to remember that all the technology created in Killzone 2 development will go towards other sony games as well. So really its not $40million for the game alone, but an investment in getting technology to use the Ps3 to the max
@ssj @ssj are you insecure about your sexuality for something? People that usually call other names such as "f@ggot" are usually the ones that are a "F@ggot"
Breakfest, you've said alot of dumb things as of lately, but if you don't think Killzone 2 isn't gonna fly off the shelves when it hits release you got another thing comin.
@ Below
Okay?
You two go hold hands now.
@ Breakfest, see I didn't even have to say it, he said it himself.
Killzone 2 is going to be flying off shelves... did you miss all the gamplay footage and the Gameinformer article saying they thought it was going to be a big AAA title?? O yea, and they played it. Killzone 2 will sale 2-3 million just off of hype... but Killzone 2 is actually goign to be very special and do alot of new things... wait and see. I know this is true.
$100m for CHARACTERS THAT LOOK LAST GEN!!!!! You think for $100m the game characters would have looked next gen rather than LAST GEN or am I the only person NOT ACTUALLY impressed by how this game LOOKS. Dont get me wrong the backdrops look great but I really think the characters LOOK BELOW AVERAGE for what the PS3 & 360 can do! and compared to what we have seen in other games, Uncharted for example.
Pfff... "In an recent artical with timesonline.co.uk, Leslie Benzies one of the leading Gran Theft Auto IV producers stated that he suspects the overal cost to create GTA IV was around the $100 mark."
... 100 bucks doesnt sound that much...
Anyway, worth every dollar they invested in it, and I'm sure it will pay off big time!
Rockstar is gonna make TakeTwo's shareholders a whole lot happier than EA would have been able to make them, thats for sure... :)
Not True... i've seen only 360 Ads in America, infact there only seems to be 360 ads, if its multiplatform i see teh 360 logo way before they show the PS3 logo, which is right before the end of the ad
AGAIN i need to REMIND u of the "FAR SUPERIOR " PS3 version of GTA4 GAMESRADAR,IGN,GT and EGM said the same THING ---PS3 version of GTA4 is better
However Swedish gaming mag Gamereactor said that there are MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the 2 version
Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps.
"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud".
X360 version has FR dips too . more frequent than the PS3 version "Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. "
GAMESRADAR also confirms that PS3 version is SUPERIOR
"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.)"
To Bad Playing It Online With Your Friends Will Suck because PSN sucks. (Can you say frequent "Disconnects" and "No Voice Support" for most games? I knew you could.) Alot of good those "Trophies" will do you without "HOME". L@l. And lets not forget the JapStation only gets 1/3 of the WHOLE GTA 4 EXPERIENCE!
Homeless Lemmings, Sony Loves You.
@2.2: You get what you pay for. You want multiple ID's? Multiple accounts? INABILITY to find friends and INSTANTLY join them in a game? You want a TOP TIER digital distribution system, (early map releases, song releases) Exclusive Content, movies, TV, demos, "NOW" not "B3y0nd" then 96 cents a week isn't alot to ask for.
@2.4: You mean like when PSN did not add new content for "2 WEEKS!" when it "Updated" itself to look more like XBL?
@2.5: Do ALL games support voice? NO. That's My point. ALL XBL games do. Do ALL JapStation games support "Trophies"? NO. That's My point. Can you instantly join your friends in a game, with the push of a single button, at ANYTIME, like XBL? That's My point. Membership HAS its privileges:p
Im sorry but i fail to see how, now correct me if im wrong, but me getting no lag in my 40man Resistance matchs compared with lag in an 8man Gears Match, means PSN sucks?
Now theres no Doubt LIVE is the better service, however PSN is also a great service and best of all it doesn't cost me £40 ($80) a year to use.
@CyberSentinel I pay 50 dollars a year for my xbox live subscription, and live is a lot better than the PSN. But I don't know where you get that PS3 online games don't support mic support, considering the fact that Resistance fall of man, COD4, Warhawk, RB6:Vegas, Metal Gear Online, and a lot of other online games for the ps3 support voice chat. And I have experience lag on both the PSN and live, so I don't see where you get off saying that the psn only lags.
Too bad I'll be playing the SUPERIOR version on my Playstation 3 and PSN.... where all my friends are or will be in not too long... EVERYONE is getting a PS3.
PS3 doesn't have voice chat?
Angry Xbot you are a joke. EVERY PS3 I have has voicechat. It's like a PC. There is voicechat in UT3, Warhawk, COD 4, Rainbow 6 Vegas 1/2, Resistance, Motorstorm... wait so what games DON'T have voicechat again??? Or are you just JEALOUS???
Enjoy youR laggy framerate, pop-ups, Cartoon colors and crappy AA.
It seems EVERY review I heard... they picked PS3... O yea and Rockstar is doidng huge things for Home, trophies and have confirmed PS3 is getting DLC.
Get over it JEALOUS Xbot. PS3 took over a while ago. PS3 is King. You crap console is still sitting on shelves all over the world at a 200-250$ pricetag HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
2.1.1 @2.7: Homer "Max Power" Simpson: When/IF Home ever releases, I will have to judge it then. It will depend on how "Mature" the service is, and whether or not it meets my expectations of a "Next Generation Console Online Service". Home may or may not be great, but only time will tell. I'm not "Waiting" until sony is ready. I want to play now, not beyond.
@2.9: ALL ps3 games DO NOT support voice chat, That is a lie. Some do, but NOT ALL. The DLC content will NOT be the "EXCLUSIVE MASSIVE EXPANSION PACKS" that the XBOX 360 will be getting, it will most likely be themes, gamers pic's, minor optional game upgrades, NOTHING that would be "EXCLUSIVE" to the psn. In other words, whatever psn gets, XBL will get. The same can NOT be said for psn. That's whats real.
@2.10: I will be playing "The COMPLETE version of GTA 4" not just 1/3 of the total eXperience.
@3: From what I have seen BOTH versions got 10's so I wouldn't say you got the "BETTER" version. I also know that many websites don't want to "upset" lemmings, for fear of retaliation. I could care less about lemmings. I'm a leader not a suicidal lemming. Yes, your version will have an ending, but not the FINAL ending. how can I explain this in terms a lemming would understand, oh I know, it's kind of like GT prologue, (you know that $40.00 demo you lemmings bent over for) sure you will get some play, just not COMPLETE gameplay. For the WHOLE story, you will HAVE to get a XboX360.
LOL first of all I have both consoles and XBL ...even now.. isn't OMGGGG that big of a improvemnt over PSN... because PSN does what you want... plays games. And yes with voice chat... people talk in every game on PSN... it's just really not any different apart from being able to pull up the menu and join games... in game. Which is something YOU choose to pay for. I think Xbox Live is a monumental rip-off and can't wait to see the route Sony is going to go very soon... and for no cost.
Why pretend like you choosing to pay to play online..and have an imaginary number score... that does NOTHING for the game... has anything to do with the PS3 version of GTA being the better game?
PS3 is also getting DLC, you aren't getting Home so I wouldn't worry about it, and why bring in DLC and pretend its goign to be 2/3's of the game LOL....when you will be paying 30$ or more for it?? The GTA IV story will begin and end within the PS3 case that is goign on sale on Tuesday.
PS3 version is the winner. You sound like a sore loser and people all over the world including the U.S. are choosing the "japstation" over the defective abomination rip-off known as the Xbox 360. Soon PS3 will be blowing the 360 away in the U.S. also and the only reason it ever got behind was because it released later, games, and price. A playstation will ALWAYS beat a Xbox in any country all over the world. It's proven and will continue to be proven.
Sounds good but... NO! There is no way it could cost $100mil to make this game or any game. That is too much money for companies like Take-Two or Rockstar to fund. Wow! Its funny how people with no sense of how much "stuff" really cost can be fooled so easily.
Why would most people on N4G know how much money it cost to make GTIV? These are the same people that have to save up to buy a $60 game!
Look at Shenmue, that game cost $70 million to make, but no one would ever think it. $100 million is probably a good guess considering the money spent on making this game as cinematic as possible. Also take into account this may include the development of Rockstar Table Tennis and the Rage Engine used for GTAIV.
It's too bad you have NO CLUE what DLC the PS3 is and isn't getting becuase it hasn't been announced. Like I said, go find the games that don't have voice chat. The only one I know is Area 51... name some. GTA does... almost EVER GAME does. Get over it. The game ENDS at the end of gta 4. It's not like like we PS3 games don't get to finish the game. And it's not like there isn't going to be more story added onto the PS3 version either... you are making up whatever you can... because you are clearly angry. You don't know if it's going to be a car, character or something way bigger... ofcourse you will say its going to be something small because you are a jealous, angry 360 owner. Just like you can't name one game that donest have voicechat on the PS3.
And if you go look... you will be embarrased, too embarassed to post it anyways becuase its less than a handful of games... which all suck and no one even plays. But this is your way of making yourself feel like the 360 version is somehow REALLY the big best one. Even though what we all are paying for on Tuesday... and playing and finshing... IS BEST ON PLAYSTATION 3 and confimred by every gaming site.
Your opinion really doesn't matter. : )
I'm sure you will enjoy your 35$ DLC... if you even buy it. I will be playing MGS4, Kilzone 2 Resistance, LittBigPlanet and Fallout 3. In other words that is 8 months away and PS3 owners are playing the best version of GTA 4 ON DAY ONE. Regardless of what YOU think and how YOU feel. I feel how IGN, EGM, GT, 1up, Gamereactor and Gamespy feel.
I will be playing the best version of GTA 4 on day 1. XD XD XD
PS3 Only PS3 is the only true next-gen system the Wii and 360 shouldn't even be considered next-gen consoles. First off the Wii and 360 still use an old format called DVD which only holds 4.7 gbs of data or 9gb on dual layer disc, the PS3 uses Blu-ray which holds 25gb of data or 50gb on dual layer disc. The Wii has no hdmi port which is necessary for the future while the 360 has an hdmi port 1.2 and the PS3 has an hdmi port that supports 1.3a. The differences first off 1.2 supports 16.7 million colors while 1.3a supports over 1 billion colors. 1.2 cant use Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio and it cant support 7.1 surround sound, while on the other hand hdmi 1.3a supports all that plus more. hdmi 1.2 can only support 1920x1080p60fps maxed out while 1.3a supports 2560x1600p60fps maxed out. An added bonus about 1.3a also supports x.y.Color and Deep Color which 1.2 dosent. 1.3a also has a way higher transfer rate and bit rate compared to 1.2. Also the 360 has 3 core processors which is old news considering Intel makes Quad Core Processors while the PS3 has the revoluntionary Cell processor which has 8 and the Wii has a weak processor we dont even nedd to talk about.You cant even upgrade the 360 HD unless u pay for an overpriced 120 piece of crap HD on th PS3 u can upgrade your HD limitleesly. The 360 or the Wii doesnt even have an HD movie playback drive the PS3 does. The PS3 is built stronger than both the Wii and 360 it can handle more heat and cold and still not break down. Also the PS3 firmware constantly upgrades the system and by far has the most multimedia compatibilities compared to the Wii and 360. The RSX GPU can handle DirectX 10 level details and graphics the 360 GPU can't. The PS3 is truly the only system worthy of being called next gen and is the most future proof console that ever existed.
I've been reading Guerilla's developer's blog and when they start showing more and talking about Killzone 2 this year.... they said they would announce how much it costs also. They said they haven't shown ANYTHING of Killzone 2 yet. I can't wait.
Still in development So I dunno. So far they've spent a good $40 million, but luckily all that technology is being shared with every other internal studio at Sony. Hell, even Uncharted has Guerilla Games tech in it. I wouldn't be surprised if Killzone ended up at the $60 million mark.
You'd be surprised how much money It takes to build a game for both PS3 and 360. They invested a LOT of people and many years to pull this game off, and though it's not exactly a graphical highlight the content that's there is definitely awesome. I'd say a good $50~60 million to make the game, with another $30~40 million in advertising.
- Hmm, 100.000.000 divided på 60 = 1.666.666. The conclusion of this calculation is:
1. Rockstar needs to sell a hell of a lot games to make profit from this game (i have no doubt they will)
2. Rockstar is the devil... Times 2.
1. Not all of the development expenses went towards the graphics. There is a reason why it cost $100 million to make and has some of the best voice acting, cinematics and dialogue ever seen in a video game.
2. Graphics in Killzone 2 better than GTAIV is up for debate. Yes single character models may look better but Killzone is alot more scripted, less AI, less detailed, and not an open world game. Take into consideration all the detail that GTAIV has, not just right in front of you but the skyscrapers in the background, the cars and people littering the streets, all the little details to make the city come alive. If they used the Killzone 2 graphics engine to create a open-world sandbox game it probably wouldn't look as good as GTAIV.
KILL ZONE 1 is not kill zone 2 different game engine m8 you be gob smack when they show it......No wonder your a cry baby you pick the wrong horse......ps3 just starting to roll..... And your mouth need washing out......now go cry in a corner like you normally do
and assuming they sell 5,000,000 copies @ 40 pounds(uk)
5,000,000 x 40 = 200,000,000 even better if that number was 100 million dollars (cant remember if it was but guess it was)... and i would think it will easily sell over 5 million copies. Plus im sure theres other cash deals involved to bump profits up a bit.
but 400,000,000 in there first week....really is that possible?
monkfish your wrong It may sell for £40 in UK 17.5% is vat so thats about £6 the goverment gets that, the shop will have their cut,then production cost maketing etc payment to Sony & MS so how moch does R* actually get per game sold £5/6 TOPS MAYBE so more like 10m copies to break even if it cost £50M/$100M to make.
£5/6 TOPS MAYBE Lol, you have no idea how the game industry works. I promise game studios make more money than that on each copy of the game :). When I worked in retail there was only a $3-6 markup on the games (because that's all the store made ;)), and now that I work at a game studio I promise we get more than £5/6 per game. A lot more.
You will probably find that the next game won't cost as much with this initial outlay on creating the game engine.
After that, for further GTA's of this generation (Bully 2 anyone?), will only require tweaks. Then you have the return from potential licensees for using the game engine for their own developments.
I don't deny that it is a lot of money and it just shows what demands their are on games developers but its now a big business and movie like budgets will pretty much follow the trend of movies themselves.
i hate game (as in the shop game) walked past and noticed the shop was open so i wandered inside saw a whole shelf of 360 boxs and thought ok i will grab a copy....waited half an hour in line to get right to the till before being told that it was pre-orders only and that there was a sign on the door..... others in the line behind me had made the same mistake as me and upon looking at one a4 black and white poster outside and reading the small print it did indeed state that it was for pre-orders only.....why didnt anyone think to put a decent size poster up or maybe even a few and especially one on the shelf were the game boxes were.....if it was so obvious how come so many others did the same as me. i understand if they didnt have enough copies but that wasnt even mentioned......i knew there was a reason i dont like game. Next time try using a poster that actually stands out from the others in the window and maybe put more than one up..... oh well never mind. if you did get a copy enjoy lol..... certainly seems to be doing well so far.
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@ Below
"rumored $40million budget for Killzone 2"
Why would that game have a budget like that...at least in GTA's case they'll see a return. I highly doubt KIllzone is gonna sell that well (well enough to justify a 40 million dollar price tag).
Edit - To above
'Why would that game have a budget like that.'
Simple they want to make it as good as possible, you also have to remember that all the technology created in Killzone 2 development will go towards other sony games as well. So really its not $40million for the game alone, but an investment in getting technology to use the Ps3 to the max
either your new, a rebel, or just dumb
keep it in the OPEN ZONE
Reported as Spam!
@ssj
are you insecure about your sexuality for something? People that usually call other names such as "f@ggot" are usually the ones that are a "F@ggot"
Reported as Offensive!!!
at this rate youll be baned to the open zone in no time at all
enjoy =D
No your dad is just fine. Hes not offended BTW 660 days ago you said 360 would outperform the PS3 in every way, hows that comin out? huh?
On topic: Well it must cost to make 10/10!
@ Below
Okay?
You two go hold hands now.
@ Breakfest, see I didn't even have to say it, he said it himself.
lmao I'm not even gunna bother with that comment.
Just know, maybe Breakfast isn't the dumbass..
(have fun mods:P)
kz2 fly off the shelves....haha
jokers..
This game will rock etc...
You think for $100m the game characters would have looked next gen rather than LAST GEN or am I the only person NOT ACTUALLY impressed by how this game LOOKS. Dont get me wrong the backdrops look great but I really think the characters LOOK BELOW AVERAGE for what the PS3 & 360 can do! and compared to what we have seen in other games, Uncharted for example.
Rob
Next time you post, get the facts straight.
all i gotta say is...-lol-
Edit: Its funny how you guys think toughNAME is dumb...and totally oblivious on how dumb hes making you look.
@ Breakfest, aww how cute you and toughname are gonna miss cheerleader practice.
No...I can't let myself get into this
*** lol this is what I meant Breakfast ***
=] Hehe.
"In an recent artical with timesonline.co.uk, Leslie Benzies one of the leading Gran Theft Auto IV producers stated that he suspects the overal cost to create GTA IV was around the $100 mark."
... 100 bucks doesnt sound that much...
Anyway, worth every dollar they invested in it, and I'm sure it will pay off big time!
Rockstar is gonna make TakeTwo's shareholders a whole lot happier than EA would have been able to make them, thats for sure... :)
Well Spotted, Post has been updated now
but I just saw a commecial of GTA IV on TV, and it showed only the PS3 logo.
The UK ad only shows the 360 logo
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I guess MS are using GTA to help in Europe and sony using it in America
i've seen only 360 Ads in America, infact there only seems to be 360 ads, if its multiplatform i see teh 360 logo way before they show the PS3 logo, which is right before the end of the ad
but yeah, I saw a few ads over the weekend for GTAIV...some had the 'jump in' at the end...and some had the slow awesome Playstation 3 noise thing...
GAMESRADAR,IGN,GT and EGM said the same THING ---PS3 version of GTA4 is better
However Swedish gaming mag Gamereactor said that there are MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the 2 version
http://www.gamereactor.se/r...
Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps.
IGN
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud".
X360 version has FR dips too . more frequent than the PS3 version
"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. "
http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...
"PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp "
GAMESRADAR
http://www.gamesradar.com/x...
"Occasional pop-up".........ONLY IN X360 version of GTA4
http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08...
So happy that i own a PS3
GAMESRADAR also confirms that PS3 version is SUPERIOR
"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.)"
http://www.gamesradar.com/p...
It is OVER for XBUTTS and 3 FIX ME
plz calm yourself down man the xbot will get PlSSED
E.G. POG
Bring it on, BOTS.
because PSN sucks. (Can you say frequent "Disconnects" and "No Voice Support" for most games? I knew you could.) Alot of good those "Trophies" will do you without "HOME". L@l. And lets not forget the JapStation only gets 1/3 of the WHOLE GTA 4 EXPERIENCE!
Homeless Lemmings, Sony Loves You.
@2.2: You get what you pay for. You want multiple ID's? Multiple accounts? INABILITY to find friends and INSTANTLY join them in a game?
You want a TOP TIER digital distribution system, (early map releases, song releases) Exclusive Content, movies, TV, demos, "NOW" not "B3y0nd" then 96 cents a week isn't alot to ask for.
@2.4: You mean like when PSN did not add new content for "2 WEEKS!" when it "Updated" itself to look more like XBL?
@2.5: Do ALL games support voice? NO. That's My point. ALL XBL games do. Do ALL JapStation games support "Trophies"? NO. That's My point.
Can you instantly join your friends in a game, with the push of a single button, at ANYTIME, like XBL? That's My point. Membership HAS its privileges:p
Im sorry but i fail to see how, now correct me if im wrong, but me getting no lag in my 40man Resistance matchs compared with lag in an 8man Gears Match, means PSN sucks?
Now theres no Doubt LIVE is the better service, however PSN is also a great service and best of all it doesn't cost me £40 ($80) a year to use.
XBL P2P - laggy, service is down every other week, almost once a month, not to mention randomly signs you out of XBL.
I pay 50 dollars a year for my xbox live subscription, and live is a lot better than the PSN. But I don't know where you get that PS3 online games don't support mic support, considering the fact that Resistance fall of man, COD4, Warhawk, RB6:Vegas, Metal Gear Online, and a lot of other online games for the ps3 support voice chat.
And I have experience lag on both the PSN and live, so I don't see where you get off saying that the psn only lags.
Too bad I'll be playing the SUPERIOR version on my Playstation 3 and PSN.... where all my friends are or will be in not too long... EVERYONE is getting a PS3.
PS3 doesn't have voice chat?
Angry Xbot you are a joke. EVERY PS3 I have has voicechat. It's like a PC. There is voicechat in UT3, Warhawk, COD 4, Rainbow 6 Vegas 1/2, Resistance, Motorstorm... wait so what games DON'T have voicechat again??? Or are you just JEALOUS???
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA HAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
You guys have got owned and its BARELY begun.
Enjoy youR laggy framerate, pop-ups, Cartoon colors and crappy AA.
It seems EVERY review I heard... they picked PS3... O yea and Rockstar is doidng huge things for Home, trophies and have confirmed PS3 is getting DLC.
Get over it JEALOUS Xbot. PS3 took over a while ago. PS3 is King. You crap console is still sitting on shelves all over the world at a 200-250$ pricetag HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
until Home or In-game comes out, for free. then should you 'feel' privileged for paying for (what should be) a free service?
@2.7: Homer "Max Power" Simpson: When/IF Home ever releases, I will have to judge it then. It will depend on how "Mature" the service is, and whether or not it meets my expectations of a "Next Generation Console Online Service". Home may or may not be great, but only time will tell. I'm not "Waiting" until sony is ready. I want to play now, not beyond.
@2.9: ALL ps3 games DO NOT support voice chat, That is a lie. Some do, but NOT ALL. The DLC content will NOT be the "EXCLUSIVE MASSIVE EXPANSION PACKS" that the XBOX 360 will be getting, it will most likely be themes, gamers pic's, minor optional game upgrades, NOTHING that would be "EXCLUSIVE" to the psn. In other words, whatever psn gets, XBL will get. The same can NOT be said for psn. That's whats real.
@2.10: I will be playing "The COMPLETE version of GTA 4" not just 1/3 of the total eXperience.
@3: From what I have seen BOTH versions got 10's so I wouldn't say you got the "BETTER" version. I also know that many websites don't want to "upset" lemmings, for fear of retaliation. I could care less about lemmings. I'm a leader not a suicidal lemming. Yes, your version will have an ending, but not the FINAL ending. how can I explain this in terms a lemming would understand, oh I know, it's kind of like GT prologue, (you know that $40.00 demo you lemmings bent over for) sure you will get some play, just not COMPLETE gameplay. For the WHOLE story, you will HAVE to get a XboX360.
Why pretend like you choosing to pay to play online..and have an imaginary number score... that does NOTHING for the game... has anything to do with the PS3 version of GTA being the better game?
PS3 is also getting DLC, you aren't getting Home so I wouldn't worry about it, and why bring in DLC and pretend its goign to be 2/3's of the game LOL....when you will be paying 30$ or more for it?? The GTA IV story will begin and end within the PS3 case that is goign on sale on Tuesday.
PS3 version is the winner. You sound like a sore loser and people all over the world including the U.S. are choosing the "japstation" over the defective abomination rip-off known as the Xbox 360. Soon PS3 will be blowing the 360 away in the U.S. also and the only reason it ever got behind was because it released later, games, and price. A playstation will ALWAYS beat a Xbox in any country all over the world. It's proven and will continue to be proven.
Then don't wait..no one's begging you to. You just won't be playing the best version of Gran Theft Auto IV.
LOLOL
This was a major undertaking.
that said it prob cost 100 million.
He is prob right.
NO! There is no way it could cost $100mil to make this game or any game. That is too much money for companies like Take-Two or Rockstar to fund. Wow! Its funny how people with no sense of how much "stuff" really cost can be fooled so easily.
Why would most people on N4G know how much money it cost to make GTIV?
These are the same people that have to save up to buy a $60 game!
I'm sure advertising is another $50 million (I'm in Hollywood and it's all over the place)
Hopefully the game will sell $400 million in its first week so EA can't afford to buy T2 anymore
Now their game is getting 10/10 left and right
I still cant believe people think that ALL of that 50 million went to the DLC deal.
@KnaveX
That was Funny. Especially since his avatar is a "Star Trek" character.
And if you go look... you will be embarrased, too embarassed to post it anyways becuase its less than a handful of games... which all suck and no one even plays. But this is your way of making yourself feel like the 360 version is somehow REALLY the big best one. Even though what we all are paying for on Tuesday... and playing and finshing... IS BEST ON PLAYSTATION 3 and confimred by every gaming site.
Your opinion really doesn't matter. : )
I'm sure you will enjoy your 35$ DLC... if you even buy it. I will be playing MGS4, Kilzone 2 Resistance, LittBigPlanet and Fallout 3. In other words that is 8 months away and PS3 owners are playing the best version of GTA 4 ON DAY ONE. Regardless of what YOU think and how YOU feel. I feel how IGN, EGM, GT, 1up, Gamereactor and Gamespy feel.
I will be playing the best version of GTA 4 on day 1. XD XD XD
dont poke the animals
you know better then that
your day one comment is right on
you need to always add
If you 360 ppl are lucky enough to have a HDD with your system make sure you install the game. Its worth it
~~holy sh!t thats a lot of money~~
i bet that DLC will be good or exspensive
PS3 is the only true next-gen system the Wii and 360 shouldn't even be considered next-gen consoles. First off the Wii and 360 still use an old format called DVD which only holds 4.7 gbs of data or 9gb on dual layer disc, the PS3 uses Blu-ray which holds 25gb of data or 50gb on dual layer disc. The Wii has no hdmi port which is necessary for the future while the 360 has an hdmi port 1.2 and the PS3 has an hdmi port that supports 1.3a. The differences first off 1.2 supports 16.7 million colors while 1.3a supports over 1 billion colors. 1.2 cant use Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio and it cant support 7.1 surround sound, while on the other hand hdmi 1.3a supports all that plus more. hdmi 1.2 can only support 1920x1080p60fps maxed out while 1.3a supports 2560x1600p60fps maxed out. An added bonus about 1.3a also supports x.y.Color and Deep Color which 1.2 dosent. 1.3a also has a way higher transfer rate and bit rate compared to 1.2. Also the 360 has 3 core processors which is old news considering Intel makes Quad Core Processors while the PS3 has the revoluntionary Cell processor which has 8 and the Wii has a weak processor we dont even nedd to talk about.You cant even upgrade the 360 HD unless u pay for an overpriced 120 piece of crap HD on th PS3 u can upgrade your HD limitleesly. The 360 or the Wii doesnt even have an HD movie playback drive the PS3 does. The PS3 is built stronger than both the Wii and 360 it can handle more heat and cold and still not break down. Also the PS3 firmware constantly upgrades the system and by far has the most multimedia compatibilities compared to the Wii and 360. The RSX GPU can handle DirectX 10 level details and graphics the 360 GPU can't. The PS3 is truly the only system worthy of being called next gen and is the most future proof console that ever existed.
This is coming from someone who hasn't even played the game I assume?
Didn't Killzone 1 suck?
cost more than this
So I dunno. So far they've spent a good $40 million, but luckily all that technology is being shared with every other internal studio at Sony. Hell, even Uncharted has Guerilla Games tech in it. I wouldn't be surprised if Killzone ended up at the $60 million mark.
It takes to build a game for both PS3 and 360. They invested a LOT of people and many years to pull this game off, and though it's not exactly a graphical highlight the content that's there is definitely awesome. I'd say a good $50~60 million to make the game, with another $30~40 million in advertising.
Hmm, 100.000.000 divided på 60 = 1.666.666. The conclusion of this calculation is:
1. Rockstar needs to sell a hell of a lot games to make profit from this game (i have no doubt they will)
2. Rockstar is the devil... Times 2.
Read the article, GTA will profit on day 1, making over 400million in its first week
2. Graphics in Killzone 2 better than GTAIV is up for debate. Yes single character models may look better but Killzone is alot more scripted, less AI, less detailed, and not an open world game. Take into consideration all the detail that GTAIV has, not just right in front of you but the skyscrapers in the background, the cars and people littering the streets, all the little details to make the city come alive. If they used the Killzone 2 graphics engine to create a open-world sandbox game it probably wouldn't look as good as GTAIV.
And about 90 million of that was spent paying NASA engineers trying to get it to run on TEH CELL lmfao!!!!!
im not great at maths but 100,000,000 to produce
and assuming they sell 5,000,000 copies @ 40 pounds(uk)
5,000,000 x 40 = 200,000,000 even better if that number was 100 million dollars (cant remember if it was but guess it was)... and i would think it will easily sell over 5 million copies. Plus im sure theres other cash deals involved to bump profits up a bit.
but 400,000,000 in there first week....really is that possible?
It may sell for £40 in UK 17.5% is vat so thats about £6 the goverment gets that, the shop will have their cut,then production cost maketing etc payment to Sony & MS so how moch does R* actually get per game sold £5/6 TOPS MAYBE so more like 10m copies to break even if it cost £50M/$100M to make.
Rob
Lol, you have no idea how the game industry works. I promise game studios make more money than that on each copy of the game :). When I worked in retail there was only a $3-6 markup on the games (because that's all the store made ;)), and now that I work at a game studio I promise we get more than £5/6 per game. A lot more.
probably 70million went for the ads.
After that, for further GTA's of this generation (Bully 2 anyone?), will only require tweaks. Then you have the return from potential licensees for using the game engine for their own developments.
I don't deny that it is a lot of money and it just shows what demands their are on games developers but its now a big business and movie like budgets will pretty much follow the trend of movies themselves.
walked past and noticed the shop was open so i wandered inside saw a whole shelf of 360 boxs and thought ok i will grab a copy....waited half an hour in line to get right to the till before being told that it was pre-orders only and that there was a sign on the door..... others in the line behind me had made the same mistake as me and upon looking at one a4 black and white poster outside and reading the small print it did indeed state that it was for pre-orders only.....why didnt anyone think to put a decent size poster up or maybe even a few and especially one on the shelf were the game boxes were.....if it was so obvious how come so many others did the same as me.
i understand if they didnt have enough copies but that wasnt even mentioned......i knew there was a reason i dont like game. Next time try using a poster that actually stands out from the others in the window and maybe put more than one up..... oh well never mind. if you did get a copy enjoy lol..... certainly seems to be doing well so far.