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Submitted by allformats 302d ago | news

Microsoft: "Xbox One Is The Most Powerful Console"

New Interview with Microsoft's Xbox Division in France sees Hugues Ouvrard, Marketing Director for Xbox France claiming that Xbox One is more powerful than PS4, and that there's some confusion over pixels.

"Question :We say that the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One.

The PS4 isn't more powerful. There is a confusion about the number of pixels but the definition of some is set by editors, not by the console. Especially with the power of the cloud - we set 300 000 servers - the capabilities of the console are multiplied by 4. So if we connect our console to internet, then the Xbox One is the most powerful." (Xbox One)

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allformats  +   302d ago | Well said
LOL! And a Chevrolet Cavalier is way faster and has more horse power than a Ferrari!
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Enemy  +   302d ago | Well said
Lmao, I guess this is why their games run at higher resolution. Oh wait!

http://www.gamechup.com/war...

http://n4g.com/news/1353541...

http://n4g.com/news/1304933...

http://n4g.com/news/1263235...

50% power advantage goes to PS4, yet Microsoft thinks they're fooling anyone trying to correlate 300,000 servers to raw spec power. This is beyond sad now.

The released specs are facts, not opinion, and it is a fact that the PS4 is more powerful. Even they accepted it already. This must be a misquote.
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   302d ago | Well said
Is this real?......Did he actually say this?

Wow, he said "the power of the cloud" multiplies the consoles "capabilities" by 4 and if connected to the internet the X1 is more powerful......

....yes, he actually said that. Just as delusional as their fans it seems.

He also said that the pixels on screen is determined by the publisher, not the console.......so he is saying that 720p all the multiplats was a publisher choice? He can't actually expect the fans to believe these words....surely? Yeah, publishers just choose to make it 1080p on PS4 and 720p on X1.....makes sense. /s

PS4 is more powerful, accept it and move on.
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dedicatedtogamers  +   302d ago | Well said
Yeah, Microsoft execs need to keep their mouth shut or at least be truthful. Heck, Nintendo knew the Wii was weaker, but they said "hey, that's our strategy. We offer a different experience".

I think this just goes to show how far the Xbox brand has fallen. It was once the peak of console power. Now it's the peak of advertising and compromises.
-Foxtrot  +   302d ago | Well said
@Lukas_Japonicus

The worst part is that the delusional fans will actually believe them....you know the fans who have been screwed over repeatedly by MS since they brought out Kinect....how long has that been, oh yeah like three years this month to be exact, with no signs of improving any time soon

How can they say this when they can't prove it

MS if you believe this then show us...show us a chart or something comparing your specs and the PS4's.
pyramidshead  +   302d ago | Well said
Seriously Microsoft's PR just needs to...go home and play their Xboxs. It's almost out and they're jinxing it with more bad PR. You'd think they'd stop doing it to themselves by now after months and months of faux pas.
M-M  +   302d ago | Funny
"So if we connect our console to internet, then the Xbox One is the most powerful."

I'm dying.
Eonjay  +   302d ago
No. I can't. Not tonight.
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Pintheshadows  +   302d ago
Oh dear oh dear.
Regis  +   302d ago
That's it not buying there console now way to flat out lie Hugues Ouvrard if I was MS i fire you right away for that.
Ezz2013  +   302d ago | Funny
oh wow, i laughed hard when i saw the title

who they think will believe this after the offical specs and games running at higher gfx and Res on ps4?

give it a rest already ,Microsoft

also i'm shaking my head at this part :
" Especially with the power of the cloud - we set 300 000 servers - the capabilities of the console are multiplied by 4. So if we connect our console to internet, then the Xbox One is the most powerful"
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Computersaysno  +   302d ago | Well said
So this is it.

We always knew it, soon as it becomes more obvious to the general public. Average Joe. That PS4 is more powerful then Microsoft would fall back on their cloud spiel.

Here it comes. We won't hear the end of this the whole generation even if Microsoft have still shown literally ZERO proof of concept.

PS4 is more powerful.

But the cloud!

PS4 version has more resolution.

But teh suspended water molecules!

PS4 version wins again

But teh hydrogen and oxygen atoms we haz on the Internets!

Please Microsoft. No. I'm going to buy an Xbox one eventually I imagine but seriously you can shove this PR nonsense. It is frustrating and embarrassing when companies do this.
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majiebeast  +   302d ago | Well said
"There is a confusion about the difference in the number of pixels"

WAHAHAHAHAHAHA Xbox PR guy go home you are drunk. Only 1 day and they pulled the not so trap card CLOWD POWAH!
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MRMagoo123  +   302d ago
I cant believe MS have flat out lied like this lmfao. Anyone that has looked at both the console say the ps4 is more powerful.
xHeavYx  +   302d ago
If you can't beat them... Come up with lies?
" thanks to the power of the cloud, the console's power is multiplied by four" HAHAHAHA
Just like Goku ( the first one to make a meme gets a bubble)
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   302d ago | Well said
Funny how MS hasn't mentioned the cloud much for a long time and now suddenly they say your console will be more powerful if you connect it to the internet/cloud.

"So if you connect the console to the Internet, then the Xbox One is the most powerful."

Internet = power?

WHO believes this BS? Its mind boggling.
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georgeenoob  +   302d ago
Lol MS knows the Internet will react greatly to this, looks like MS thinks this because they know the full capabilities of the cloud. Can't wait to see what they do with this. Just like how Forza 5 was only possible on X1.

Xbox One not only has the best games, but it's the most powerful. What a fanboy nightmare LOL.
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xHeavYx  +   302d ago
@noob
By any chance are you related to the person making the statement?
Enemy  +   302d ago
@ Georgenoob: Forza 5 doesn't even have dynamic lighting or dynamic skies. Even the environments aren't fully rendered like in DriveClub. Your post makes no sense as there's nothing next gen about the game.
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ABizzel1  +   302d ago | Funny
LMAO, the stupid is strong in this one.

WOW. M$ needs to purchase a STFU Button, so whenever these clueless people say something stupid a giant boxing gloves speeds out of nowhere and punches the $#!^ out of them, and they learn to STFU.

4x with the power of the cloud. Stop it please.
Narutone66  +   302d ago
I thought it was infinite, now it's x4. I heard he used to work for EA.
GribbleGrunger  +   302d ago
You guys need to understand, by raging at articles like this, all you accomplish is to promote the very thing you're raging against. Just let silly statements like this slip from view.
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solidjun5  +   302d ago
Oh gosh. This is beyond some Dragon Ball Z power level mess.

"Over 9000!!!" Seriously.

"Hugues Ouvrard, Marketing Director for Xbox France."

Yea, you need to work on that.
CryofSilence  +   302d ago
I'll just leave this here.

http://forum.unity3d.com/at...
AliTheSnake1  +   302d ago
The most powerful Lemon.
otherZinc  +   302d ago
Forza 5 @ 1080p "native" 60fps Online & Offline!
Sent Drive Club "back to the lab".

Forza 5 is "The Only" "Next Gen" game at 1080p native 60fps Online/Offline game in the world on consoles, period.

Next generation is where we're at, not last gen high res ports.
Kryptix  +   302d ago
http://www.reactiongifs.com...

lmao Haven't laughed this much in a while...I can't say anything else...too funny.
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badz149  +   302d ago
my god...

when people are already tired of "the powah of the cloudz" joke...this guy came out...
FATAL1TY  +   302d ago
xbox 720p -_-
GTgamer  +   302d ago
Im just sitting here like, Not sure if MS knows that we all know the X1 isn't the strongest console.
Quick question if it was the strongest then why are a good majority of multiplatform games 720p on the X1 when on the PS4 its 1080p:/
Wait hold up he said due to the Cloud lmao Im dead XD again with this.
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NMEMEDIC  +   302d ago
the PS4 is 62.87 percent more get it right next time.
deecee33  +   302d ago
Oh good grief, the "cloud" strikes again...
Notice to Microsoft PR: STOP. Just. Stop. You are fooling only the completely uninformed. The rest of us know better than to believe that your server farm will result in a direct boost to the immediate capabilities of your hardware in any concrete way. You're making yourselves look deceitful and foolish, and it's embarrassing.
MysticStrummer  +   302d ago | Well said
Well played George. I've seen some spectacularly ridiculous comments on this site, and some of them come from more prolific zealots than yourself so it's easy to forget about you at times, but then you come along and vault yourself back into the limelight with a gem of a comment like that.

When I look at MS and some of their fans, I'm reminded of the immortal words of Obi Wan Kenobi : " Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him? ".

I'm going with the fans, because MS has to know they're full of marketing. I'm not talking about the fans who love their MS exclusives and don't mind the compromises that were made in the name of multimedia/multitasking. I'm talking about people like George, Green, edonus, EliteGamer, etc who appear to be so delusional that I wonder sometimes if it's actually satirical performance art.

If reviews determine who has the best games, then PS4 wins by having higher scores overall for their launch titles, and yes, indies and multiplats count as games. As for power, PS4's advantage has been well documented for months. Forza being "only possible" on XB1 is a joke. I'm pretty sure if MS had some secret sauce cloud power they'd have clued in developers well before now and we wouldn't see the differences we do, especially in a game like CoD. I doubt DR3 would have framerate issues if they could dunk it in that secret sauce. I doubt Forza would have 2D spectators instead of the 3D ones that were originally shown if the fabled cloud computing was a factor. Hell, Forza's backgrounds in general wouldn't look so dated if cloud power was a thing.

Like Lukas said, accept and move on. Be happy with your purchase and what it does instead of trying to exaggerate it's capabilities.
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CryofSilence  +   302d ago
Exceptionally well said, MysticStrummer. Here, enjoy a bubble. :)
Reverent  +   302d ago
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that this MS rep tried to deny the DRM policies and no game sharing when the Xbox One was announced? I mean seriously? He ACTUALLY tried to say that it was a "communication error". OTHER MS Reps have ADMITTED what MS was trying to do, and practically apologized, clearing the entire thing.

Sorry, but this guy is an absolute fool, and definitely should not be working for MS. He continues to prove how horrible MS is with PR.
Foxhound922  +   302d ago
@enemy

Here's the goku picture you requested

http://s14.postimg.org/4qi7...

This just in guys! Just like Goku's spirit bomb, the Xbox One can summon energy and power from all living things like plants, trees, and animals. By doing this, it becomes over 9000 times more powerful when it's connected to to earth power. It can also summon power from the flying nimbus, also known and "teh cloud"
Prime157  +   301d ago
@Otherzinc

If you really think Forza looks good then that just shows your ignorance.

You have no idea what effects show the console is having power vs not.

Forza is a cartoon compared to drive club.
knockknockannefrank  +   301d ago
good god they're relying on stable internet connections to boost power when stable internet isnt exactly something you can rely on all the time.

i still don't understand why people trust microsoft. so much of what they say is misleading and this article proves it
Yi-Long  +   301d ago
Volvo: "Well, critics seem to suggest that a Lamborghini is faster than our car, but that's because they're only looking at it from a very limited view, namely how fast it goes on the road.

However, if we drop our Volvo from a plane, it's speed increases 4-fold, easily surpassing the speed of the Lamborghini! Our car is much more faster. All thanks to (dropping it through) the cloud!"
eliasg  +   301d ago
you will realize that SONY lies about being 50% more powerful, when you look at RYSE and FORZA
jebabcock  +   301d ago
So is that a confirmation that there will be an Internet requirement for AAA games to compete with ps4 games? PS4 games look the same with or without a connection.

For less cost Sony could strike a deal with Amazon if they haven't already and have a better cloud to work from... MS is making a weak argument here.
UltimateMaster  +   301d ago
Yeah, no, Multi-platform games are better on the PS4.
SilentNegotiator  +   301d ago
MS really needs to show some confidence in their position; no one said that they NEED the most powerful console to both sell well and make people happy. They should at least fake some confidence, but I know that it would be difficult being both the most expensive system and only the 2nd most powerful.
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Angels3785  +   302d ago
I must need some really thick new glasses and a new computer science degree because I swear all my personal knowledge and other proffessional knowledge/sources says otherwise....
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nypifisel  +   302d ago
This is super stupid, how the heck did he think he could get away with it?! D:
Prime157  +   301d ago
Consumer ignorance has let them get away with it. And not just via xbone.
SilentNegotiator  +   301d ago
Ask an android user; Ballmer said that they're all computer scientists.
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vigilante_man  +   301d ago
Sorry people but I cannot find anything bad to say about Microsoft or the XB1 today. It is their big day and a massive congratulations goes to Microsoft and every new XBox One owner.

I am a very jealous UK gamer waiting for the PS4 but hope all new XB1 consoles run perfectly without any issues at all. The new XBox One owners are enjoying an awesome day today.

Microsoft can say whatever they want today. It's their party - let them enjoy every minute of it. Happy Day One launch!
-Foxtrot  +   302d ago
"Especially thanks to the power of cloud - we have installed 300,000 servers - the capabilities of the console are multiplied by four."

http://mlpg.co/arc/q/raw/as...

"So if you connect the console to the Internet, then the Xbox One is the most powerful"

Yeah IF your connected to the interent, but as it stands, the console that has been built from the start can NOT do that with out the extra help (internet connection).

Developers want a powerful console from the ground up, not everyone is going to be connected all the time to get the best game and if they are then that "greatness" is only going to last until you go offline
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SCW1982  +   302d ago
You shouldn't even believe that connected it becomes four times more powerful because that is straight garbage.
ruefrak  +   302d ago
Didn't Jonathan Blow comment awhile ago that it wasn't 300,000 actual servers but 300,000 "virtual" servers? So that number may be incorrect as well.
Reverent  +   302d ago
@ruegrak, indeed that is the case. And as we should all know, A single (Albeit powerful) computer can run tons of virtual servers on its own.

When we take that into consideration, that 300k servers doesn't sound quite as impressive.
B-radical  +   302d ago
Be cool if they did an example of this "cloud power" tonight
True_Samurai  +   302d ago
Hey man Dont talk smack about cavaliers. That's what I drive >_>
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Hicken  +   302d ago
Shouldda got a Sunfire.
come_bom  +   302d ago
Oh boy Microsoft!

Sometimes Microsoft should really learn to STFU.
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MizTv  +   302d ago
It's funny how they will say anything lol
Numbers don't lie but ms does
Wiiu pc and ps4 for me
I have no trust for ms at all
I got 9 rrod's
If they wanted to win me back they will have to try harder
Visiblemarc  +   302d ago
Sure...and Gandhi was more powerful than The Incredible Hulk because of his strength of will....yet when it comes to crushing buildings, I'd still tap the Hulk's shoulder on that one.

Building crushing is a metaphor for playing videogames. You guess which machine is the Hulk.

Here's a hint: The answer is easy.
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PSNrandom15  +   302d ago
I think that the only solution we have left is to tell YES THE XBONE IS MORE POWERFUL so they can stop the BS. Oh and the cloud MIGHT work in 5-7 years.
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DaGR8JIBRALTAR  +   302d ago
poor guy...he didn't get the memo.
badz149  +   302d ago
more like he didn't get the education!
JamieL  +   301d ago
But everyone here on N4G know everything about the tech, and not just what they've read here or there. Please don't take this comment as support to what he's saying, I don't know how it works, and giving it 4x the power through an internet connection doesn't sound very likely, but I don't know, so I won’t sit here and say "It's so Awesome!!!, or "It's Impossible!!". I don't think everyone acting like experts here do either, yet they have no problem stating sh1t as fact. Why can’t they realize they sound as ignorant as the folks supporting it blindly. I'm sure a here few may have the tech education to know what they're talking about, but Ya'll so crazy.
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jessupj  +   302d ago
You never go full retard.

I'd be laughing my ass off right now if I wasn't trying to comprehend the stupidity of this statement.

Does MS really think we're all idiots?
iiwii  +   302d ago
Yes, they do.
titletownrelo  +   302d ago
yes.
MestreRothN4G  +   302d ago
"For sure", McLovin.
Demster  +   302d ago
to be fair, most of the fanboys here ARE idiots. no matter which side.
solar  +   302d ago
a geo metro (xbox one) and the chevy cavalier (ps4) is still way behind the Ferrari (PC)
Hicken  +   302d ago
And your comments are still irrelevant.
ashcroft  +   302d ago
That Z24 was something else.
mayberry  +   302d ago
Off topic-I had a 87' cavalier Z24 and it was BOSS! 2.6ltr V6, 5 speed manual, dual hood scoops, corvette suspension links and bushings from chevy, digital dash, racing seats an trim and more!
On topic- This profile person from France is gonna get a phone call from corporate very soon, me thinks!
solar  +   301d ago
@ mayberry

ya and they looked great for the late 80's. i had a mate with the convertible version.
Sarcasm  +   302d ago
Microsoft is just as delusional as their fans
ALLWRONG  +   302d ago
PS4 fans just got owned
2v1  +   302d ago
and you believe every lie out there , i mean is not that hard to fool you
jerethdagryphon  +   301d ago
Remember sony already went on record saying ps4 supposrts cloud computing and deferred rendering if needed and they have gaikai who has who knows how many servers . And they have experience with offsite and distributed net computing from folding at home . And they also have real time interactive experiance on consoles from home so yea. Anything teh cloud can do for ms sony has also
BlackTar187  +   301d ago
lol Allwrong only agree was Georgenoob.
tagan8tr  +   302d ago
Did this guy just step out of a Time Machine from the XB1 reveal..
frostypants  +   302d ago
I cannot believe anyone at MS is still spewing that "power of teh cloud" BS. Did this guy time travel here from 6 months ago, when some people were believing that crap?

EDIT: Should have read tagan8tr's post first. Great minds think alike...
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Back-to-Back  +   302d ago
Microsoft: "Xbox One Is The Most Powerful Console.............in 2012.

Sadly this is 2013 MS.
Bathyj  +   302d ago
Heres a question Xbone supporters.
Arent you sick of having your intelligence insulted?
I mean, this is how dumb they think you are.
Wouldnt you prefer they said, yeah we might be slightly less powerful but we are still going to deliver alot of great games and believe, instead of blowing smoke and thinking you'll buy it?
MRMagoo123  +   302d ago
They are obviously that stupid other wise they wouldnt believe it lol look at ALLWRONGS comment for example, ppl are actually going to buy xbones so there must be some stupid ppl out there at least.
Hercules189  +   302d ago
So anybody that buys an xbone is stupid. Not everyone plays this stupid politics like you do. Some people actually like playing games, and whatever you choose, enjoy it.
Hercules189  +   302d ago
What I find more shameful is how many bubbles you have.
Bathyj  +   302d ago
Are you talking to me?

Where did I say people who want Xbones are stupid? I thought you were reacting to McGoo till I read the bubble remark.

My comment was not that you are stupid, but that Microsoft treats you like you are.

Big difference.
JasonKCK  +   302d ago
@Bathyj your comment does nothing but insult people. How is you have so many bubbles?
Bathyj  +   302d ago
I'm insulting Microsoft not the people who like them. If anything I'm sticking up for you. I don't ever insult people just because they like a different console to me. If you cant see that maybe they're right to treat you like that.
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Septic  +   301d ago
Lol what did Bathy do? He just asked a question. Smh
jrbeerman11  +   301d ago
Bathyj dont apologize, reading comprehension fail on their part.
solidjun5  +   301d ago
I swear some of you guys have reading comprehension issues (I'm looking at you Hercules189). Where the hell did Bathy say "anyone who buys an Xbox One are stupid?"
JasonKCK  +   301d ago
MS's claims are far out there for sure. If it the service was as "great" as they say it is they would have shown it by now.

This> "Arent you sick of having your intelligence insulted?" is just assuming people are stupid. That's what I didn't agree with.

I think religion should be in the fiction section, but I don't assume that people who have faith are morons.
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2v1  +   302d ago
wow ms just lies in your face and they dont care
iiwii  +   302d ago
Wowowowow!! Oh wow. This guy is full of French wine. He may actually get someone over there to believe that too.
wsoutlaw87  +   302d ago
why would a publisher choose 720 on one and 1080 on the other if it has nothing to do with hardware
dmitrijs88  +   302d ago
''Microsoft are the most powerful liars.''
imt558  +   302d ago
Microsoft strikes again!
joeorc  +   301d ago
@allformats

"LOL! And a Chevrolet Cavalier is way faster and has more horse power than a Ferrari!"

LOL, the first thing that came to mind when i first heard this was, from the big bang theory about what Penny said to Leonard: when he claimed and still kept claiming even with all the evidence that Dr. Stephanie was not living there. But he really was. and everyone else could see that she was. and Penny said:

Penny: You’re going to go down swinging, huh?

http://bigbangtrans.wordpre...

I mean everyone can see how over the network clustering computing can help your system in certain computing tasks. Like Grid Computing, but trying to imply or to claim, that it can increase performance of the system on a Local level as if it was networked like a Beowulf Cluster, is really a pretty big Stretch.

Microsoft may be able to fool some people, but when network ISP's Bandwidth is not really fast across the board, your never going to get the speed and level that they are trying to imply, unless your system was direct connected in the server room with servers.

Performance will be constrained, never mind the problems with old electrical wiring in your house, combined with signal collision's.

if people want to read up more on grid computing here is a really good link

http://www2.ic.uff.br/~vefr...
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deadie  +   301d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

....ah gee - im crying here.

"Marketing director"? Not for long im sure.
PSX04  +   301d ago
xbone is more powerful with ice cream stick
Xer0_SiN  +   301d ago
i heard some doozies in my time, but gadamn! thats like saying "taping two ps2 together will get you a ps4". what...the...i dont even.
kenshiro100  +   301d ago
Microsoft really can't help themselves, can they? The day their console is supposedly 'powerful' is the day they actually show a first party game that utilizes this power.
MarcoGT  +   301d ago
It would be if it was falling from the cloud but that doesn't mean I'd want one.
HardcoreDaBoss  +   301d ago
out of the box no servers PS4 wipes the floor with xbone lol.. by a good amount.. but with servers xbone would be as powerful or ever more powerful.. this isnt bs here its truth.. with cloud it can be more powerful.. but with most peoples internet this would not work well.
Edsword  +   301d ago
The cloud is amazing, you don't even know! We're talking Megagigabytes of graphical pixelation ability. Billions of polygonal memory buffers. It's huge man, huge. To the tune of 9000 Jagigaflops a sec huge. Don't believe me, Forza 5, nuff said.
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Majin-vegeta  +   302d ago
1080 would like a word with you.
GamersHeaven  +   302d ago
720p enough said
Riderz1337  +   302d ago
720P with "30" FPS games that drop down to under 20 FPS during gameplay...*Cough* Ryse *Cough* Dead Rising 3
Necro_559  +   302d ago
well technically Ryse is 900p lol....
IIZANGETSUII  +   302d ago
"30" FPS games that drop down to under 20 FPS during gameplay...*Cough* Ryse *Cough* Dead Rising 3..........yet DR3 scores higher than any AAA exclusive title for PS4, oh the irony
Prime157  +   301d ago
@zangetsu

Eh, if you think .5 out of ten matters.

You're so off topic we can tell your the ignorant type MS is catering to in these comments.
CrossingEden  +   302d ago
-Forza 5
-Quantum Break
nuff said
Lord Maim  +   302d ago
No, I think you should say more, because only one of those games is a thing, and it's a racing game. The other doesn't even have a release date or specs.
FITgamer  +   302d ago
This is how Forza 5 achieved 1080p... http://i.imgur.com/eaeJSre....
ABizzel1  +   302d ago
@FITgamer

LMFAO, Tell me it ain't so.

Sega Gensis Mortal Komat graphics LMFAO.
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Ri0tSquad  +   302d ago
lol @FITgamer
forza is really pushing the boundaries. rocket science level stuff.
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Back-to-Back  +   302d ago
Yea they cardboard cut outs in Flopza 5 are super impressive. The downgrade this game got is amazing.

Proof: http://slumz.boxden.com/f13...
Sarcasm  +   302d ago
Aaaaaaannnnd that's it... while all ps4 games are 1080p. Nuff said. (Except bf4)
iiwii  +   302d ago
@back-to-back

Whoa! That's a shocking difference. I hope those are Photoshop'd or something. Maybe Falon had a giant pipe to the cloud and the poor guy below him only had a standard 5MB internet service and wasn't getting "the power of the could". Lot's of detail and textures missing.

I remember someone saying that if it really tried to use the cloud to make games look better, that some people were going to be really disappointed when their bad connections made the game look like crap.
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MasterCornholio  +   302d ago
@Fit

Well the first forza demos were running on gaming PCs which is why you see a huge downgrade between the builds. As for the content, the game was rushed simple as that.

Nexus 7 2013
pyramidshead  +   301d ago
The Order and Infamous: SS, both at 1080p(the order isn't upscaled). Enough said.

QB could be 720p for all you know ;)
titletownrelo  +   302d ago
Imagine if the Xbox was actually called the Xbox720, like everyone thought it would be. Their new games would give the name a new meaning, lol
mkis007  +   301d ago
And the ps4 was actually the 1080PS4
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MasterCornholio  +   302d ago
And that's with the power of the cloud. Imagine if the console was offline?

Nexus 7 2013
jerethdagryphon  +   301d ago
Heres a funny thing about cloud computing and the internet.
I have 40 mb broadband which works out at 8ish megabytes at my end
Connecting to lasvegas I have about 10 mega bit or about 1.2 mega byte.

Now if a server I want data from is giving me it at 1 mb a second it would take 512 seconds to load a film of 512 meg. Thats ok on youtube cause it buffers it.

If ms decided to cloud compute the lighting before the race. That means that you have whats called prebked lighting or static. That data has to be held in ram the entire time ok so 512 ram os used for prebaked lighting bthat reduces the avalible ram for rendering.

If they decide to calculate it via cloud dynamicaly you get a much more complicated situation and a digital conversation many times more complex then what follows

Xbox . Cloud I have sun st 8oclock trees obscuring road and a green car.
Cloud replys illuminate oixals as follows 11312445456......
Xbox cloud rain with a tunnel coming up 3rd person view red ferrarri. ..
Cloud pixels 13742747723727......

And it goes on and on as the conversation continues more and more data is cached to disk and ram in case its needed . Now the onboa4d gpu can step in and answer some things but if its meamt to take orders from the cloud then its gonna guess.

If more data is handled by the cloud then multiple threads of conversation occcur .

Cloud processing is best used for not time criticle tasks or to stream fully. As latency and other issues build up as the data pipe gets full

My example while simple is how it would be handled . Prebaking is better but detracts fr9m full systems and can lead to a canned feeling like prebaking ai responses which wojuld be a terrible idea
MorePowerOfGreen  +   302d ago
Wonder if MSFT will reveal some more info soon.

EDIT

I almost forgot to add.

I hope we see some Quantum Break or Halo 5 footage tonight!
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   302d ago
No.

PS4 is more powerful...i thought we already established this and we all accepted it as fact (which is what it is).

There is no info coming soon, no dual gpu, no secret sauce......the PS4 is more powerful. Deal with that.
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Angels3785  +   302d ago
Your delusion astounds me beyond belief. There needs to be a case study on you about how companies can literally brainwash their consumers into mindlessly loyal conspiracy theorists and how it happens. Then you should be perscribed heavy medication because you are literally certifiably INSANE. People like you need to be put in rehabilitation centers for consumerist addicts....you ...need....serious...help. This is not normal behavior.

I genuinely feel terrible for you. The denial and delusion is so thick you might never fully recover. You might lock up and become a robot just mindlessly repeating PR even if microsoft themselves say you are wrong. You might have a nervous breakdown or something....

I'm not even joking I'm being serious man. Its intruiging and sad all at the same time. I would love to meet you. I swear if you contact me ill PAY for EVERY sort of study or treatment needed....what companies can do to people....wow.
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Lukas_Japonicus   302d ago | Trolling | show
Angels3785  +   302d ago
I know I can recognized when a company or a person does something to try and skrew or mislead people, but I seriously fear that if bill gates himself said to this guy that their hardware was slightly inferiot and not a supercomputer....he might actually break or die on the spot. His brain psychologically couldn't handle it

It would be insteresting to see the effect of marketing on people and how it effects sanity once it gets to this point. He is probably (I hope) normal in his everyday life...but when it comes to the company....something has to just....switch on.

Also I want to note I'm not insulting him. I seriously feel bad. Ver very bad about what has happened to him. Seriously green. I'm sorry man I just can't belive how serious this is.
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KiLLUMiNATi_89  +   302d ago
Let me ask you, your not brain washed then?
Sarcasm  +   302d ago
I agree with you, I think the poor kid really is sick. The amount of delusion, denial, and sheer madness is really unusual. He needs mental help.
ziggurcat  +   302d ago
there's no more information to reveal. they've lost. time to accept the facts, the misterx secret sauce kool aid is a complete fabrication.
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awesomeperson  +   302d ago
They won't reveal more system spec info, at least, nothing that is worthwhile.

Don't be deluded, if they had some secret sauce, they would have revealed it. Moreover, it would be evident from their games.

If you for some reason have differing views from Misterxmedia or other trolls, don't get your hopes up, it will lead to disappointment.
Remy_S  +   302d ago
That's hilarious.
Kayant  +   302d ago
Dat unlimited Cloud power /s

Seriously have we not had enough of this to already to know it's BS.

Not too long ago Turn 10 were claiming without the cloud Forza 5 wouldn't even be 1080p but then we discover there has been downgrades since E3.

There is zero proof so far that shows that unlimited power doing much expect for being dedicated servers for games & Forza 5 drivatars we have waiting to see in action.
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classic19  +   302d ago
couldn't have said it better.
DigitalRaptor   302d ago | Trolling | show
Majin-vegeta   302d ago | Trolling | show
CalebZachary8411  +   302d ago
Ludicrous. It's been proven time and time again that the raw specs are in Sony's favor.
Snookies12  +   302d ago
They don't bother with those little details.
Kayant  +   302d ago
Am still waiting on major nelson to do his spec analysis ---> http://majornelson.com/2005...
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OrangePowerz  +   302d ago
Lol "Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance."

How the tables have turned over the last generation. Not MS has that shoe on.
scott182  +   302d ago
That was nice, I haven't read any good fiction in a while.
Gridloc  +   302d ago
The bible says hi...
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SkullBlade169  +   302d ago
He said GOOD fiction.
kalkano  +   302d ago
It's not nice to lie.
pwnsause_returns  +   302d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Espurr   302d ago | Spam
Gabenbrah  +   302d ago
Until Microsoft can prove to me that the Cloud can actually improve graphics, then I won't believe you. Especially after hearing Forza 5 uses the Cloud but the crowd are N64 style paper cuts of people. As much as I'd love to know this is true so XBOX gamers getting a better experience than current-gen 720p, I very much don't believe you. Maybe in 10 -20 years the Cloud will be viable, but time and time again, the Cloud has been proven to not provide any sort of increase in graphical fidelity without causing serious latency issues.
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Necro_559  +   302d ago
I am not sticking up for the XBox ONE but resolution doesnt mean better graphics. Yes the Xbox ONE might have most games in 720p but as far as textures, shadows, AA, lighting, particle effects. They will all be massively better then the Xbox 360.
Sarcasm  +   302d ago
Fair comparison to the 360, but the ps4 has all that in addition to resolution.

Even the 1080p x1 titles are lacking compared to the ps4.

Nba 2k14 is 4xmsaa on ps4 and 0 on x1.
Need for speed rivals ps4 has bokeh dof and hbao.

It's clear cut the ps4 is going to deliver the best graphics this generation.
jerethdagryphon  +   301d ago
Whays really funny is in the 70s and 80s they used the original cloud computing mainframes. And dumb terminals

You input data on terminal mainfram calculates it and send it back that is could.computing without the internet which was in its infancy
Things like dropbix and amazons cloud gaigai and the rest are the same data or processing done 9ff s8te and handed back to the originating machine... its not new and its rarly clever unless your working with supersomputer clusters to do aerodynamic simulations that your pc cant really manage
MontyQ  +   302d ago
cliffy B t-bags his xbone for more power ?
ApolloTheBoss  +   302d ago
This will not end well.
OrangePowerz  +   302d ago
The cloud again and it makes the console 4 times as powerful. If the cloud would be so great they could have just done what OnLive is doing or Gaikai and have unlimited power and they could release a very cheap console that would sell a huge amount.

They keep harping on the 300 000 servers when the cloud was done for their full MS software suit from SkyDrive, to Office 365 and so on. The cloud was not build for Live it was built for all purpose and not for gaming.
DVAcme  +   302d ago
Every time Microsoft trumpets "the power of the cloud", I can't help but cringe and feel sorry for them. And when(not if) Sony gets in on the cloud computing game, they'll have the same advantage Microsoft has but with a much more powerful console to take advantage of it. When that happens, the spec difference will be even more pronounced. I wouldn't be surprised if, within a year, we're already seeing a massive migration of developers to PS4 just on the sheer horsepower advantage alone.

Edit: And why would I wanna play a system in which the standard new gen definition, 1080p, can not be accomplished without outside help and being connected to the internet 24/7? If, say, the games were 1080p native and they used cloud computing to up the framerate and AI algorithms, I'd think it'd have some merit, but as it stands I believe the whole cloud thing is just Microsoft's attempt to slide the always online thing in under people's noses.
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DigitalRaptor  +   302d ago
They already have work in progress with Gaikai and its features for cloud features including streaming. They have also sealed a partnership with Rackspace to deploy OpenStack private cloud dedicated services.

It's already happening. :)
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IHassounah  +   302d ago
Microsoft please shut UP
R0n0rve  +   302d ago
Oh God why did they say this... The Xbox One is not more powerful. I'm not a Sony fanboy either, I actually prefer the Xbox One over the PS4. They can't sugarcoat the facts. The PS4 boasts a stronger GPU... period. The evidence is in the multiplats and resolutions. They really need to stop with this crap.
True_Samurai  +   302d ago
Xbox One Most Powerful Online Gaming Console

Tehe :3
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Dante81  +   302d ago
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phil_75  +   302d ago
Resorting to barefaced lies now!

How can anyone like this company?

They just get worse, they are disgusting!
DigitalRaptor  +   302d ago
I have to ask a more pressing question.

How can anyone even think of supporting this company when they obviously have no respect for their customers - lying to their faces, and putting years of planning into anti-consumer control measures? Building a less powerful multimedia box and trying to sell it as a better and more powerful gaming console than an actual dedicated gaming console?

MS are truly one of the most deceitful, manipulative, hypocritical corporations around.
Sarcasm  +   302d ago
What bothers me even more are the ones who blindly follow everything they say as gospel
KiLLUMiNATi_89  +   302d ago
Sony has the gods working for them while MS has the rookies but then "MS" is worth more. Those servers will be essential this gen, who doesn't want to play with dedicated server in 2013 going forward.. That's a huge advantage if you ask me while ps4 will be stuck in the psp days.

Couple hours left til I can say theses words, XBOX ONNN!!!
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Persistantthug  +   301d ago
@KiLLUMiNATi_89,

I have a question.......well, maybe it's more of an observation.

For the 7th gen, it was the PS3 that had more games that used dedicated servers for gameplay. Games like MAG, RESISTANCE 1, RESISTANCE 2, KILLZONE 2, WARHAWK, STARHAWK, DUST 514, DC UNIVERSE, and others.

I remember that XBOX 360 fans said they didn't care, and some even claimed that dedicated servers weren't important at all.

Why is now that with the XBOX One allegedly getting more dedicated servers........why is it so important now?
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HardcoreDaBoss  +   301d ago
yes another fact.. but so many disagrees?? LOL at n4g fanboys.. truth hurts them so deeply.. servers all day for online gaming.. can sony afford to do that??? I think not and never happening.. enjoy peer to peer sony fans for the rest of its existance
ironmonkey  +   302d ago
LOL boy that makes me really want to buy now.
micbrc  +   302d ago
Marketers will say whatever they have been told to say without fact checking nowadays.
KwietStorm  +   302d ago
Good God are we really doing this?
AKR  +   302d ago
Honestly; does it truly matter what's more powerful and what isn't? I don't care what's under the hood. I play games, not specs.

I'm not saying having a nice machine with beautiful games is a bad thing - I'm just saying it isn't some holy grail.

I don't care how powerful the machine is, or what resolution its running at. The most I care about is the fps. Other than that; if the game doesn't entertain me, and the console doesn't have a plethora of games that entertain me - I won't buy it.
Sarobi  +   302d ago
Clouds.
Clouds everywhere.
micbrc  +   302d ago
Did anyone else see the new south park last night this sounds really familier.

now we just need sony to announce the Brack friray bunnle and bill gates to murder steve ballmer
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