This is not to be confused with the system memory of 8GB DDR3.
this was known about a few months ago
I am not sure whether this was known or not. But the actual specifications were released just today.
IMO, maybe a part of it is for the snap features with apps. But my big guess would be for the Xbox One's VMs for both OSs (Windows 8.1 and the gaming OS.) Expect some very unique app features from Xbox One when Windows 8.1 releases where Xbox One will seamlessly be compatible with Windows 8.1. Very powerful apps.
It likely helps with cacheing or otherwise suspending the various system processes and whatnot. Either way, it'll help take a load off the main processing hardware.
i just discovered this myself too, its amazing. THIS SHOULD PUT THE GAMES TO 1080P UP AGAINST THE PS4 . BUT RUMOURS ARE SAYING IT CAN DO IT BETTER THAN PS4, I CANT WAIT, THANKS FOR THIS ARTICLE because its hot news and needs to be shared. /S as a xbox gamer, that was weird and really cringe worthy article
"8GB of NAND storage in Xbox One. Our sources tell us that games developers have no access to it - suggesting it's for the OS and apps." Eurogamer.net......
lol ok then
This was most certainly known but nobody has known what its actual use is for. My guess is this flash memory is there for the OS. Flash memory does degrade over time from my understanding so it wouldn't be a good fit for "developer" use. Whatever is in there is something you will not want to be constantly writing over on.
It's 8GB of storage, not really memory. When techies say "memory" they mean system/video RAM. 8GB of RAM is a lot. 8GB of storage is meaningless.
I *think* on other hw devices nand is used to store firmware or like a bios on a pc...
They also discovered Al Capone's Vault in there, right behind the BD drive. See..... http://video.answers.com/ap... Jk, lol. OT: I thought this was known just as TIER1 said. Maybe this is additional components tho.
Geraldo mustache cloud power confirmed.
Gotta admit I LOL'd at this^^^
dGPU confirmed /s OT - This has been known from the hotchips event
dGPU confirmed where ?
@Stick89 BUBBLE UP for making me almost spit my coffee out! LOL
Didn't know that...It ain't Ram but...very nice. No wonder the OS is so smooth.
PS4 = Samsung and XBO = Hynix Hynix = fire Fire = Short supply maybe??
Very clever and a proven great design by PCs. I wish Sony had put an SSD for OS level stuff in PS4.
Yep and lost all advantage of a cheaper purchase just like last time. Brilliant.
I don't care about a slight up in price, I'm more interested in futureproofing. 30GB of Msata SSD costs about 65 USD, now imagine the price Sony would pay in bulk. They could probably get away with less than 30GB as well. This would give a notable boost in performance across the board and could be very useful for recording. It takes almost no space, produces little heat and drain little power. I'll assume the disagrees are either Sony fanboys mistaking me for mocking "their" system or Xbox fanboys wanting to cling onto any advantage they may get.
No, the disagrees are not the usual cop out of fanboys, they are just common sense. You may not care about a steeper price, and if that works for you, that's fine. But Sony is not marketing their product for Kennytaur. They are marketing it for a wider audience, and compromises have to be made for both the sake of market penetration and for their own profit margins. This much should be obvious.
The price could have stayed the same and Sony may have still earned money or sold it breaking even. It may have increased it by ten to twenty bucks, I wouldn't call that steep. And Sony is marketing it at me, because I'm part of their target audience as a PS3, Vita and Xperia owner with a music unlimited and playstation plus subscription who buys their products and a lot more games than average. Don't talk to me about common sense, you do realise I'm a real person here right? No need to get rude. (I'm not upset, but slightly annoyed now)
Of course you're a real person. I didn't think I was talking to a bot. If you're annoyed at all because I said common sense, that's all on you. I didn't call you stupid, I'm just talking about being logical and realistic. When I said it wasn't made for *you* I'm saying they aren't focused on appeasing every single desire of every single buyer. It's not realistic, and putting an SSD in one PS4 means it's in every PS4. That is not something Sony should have or could have done. If you want to put a SSD in there though, by all means..
Using an MSATA SSD has become a convention in laptop-design due to it's advantages and conveniece. It's far from unrealistic and this was a wish not a demand from my side. I'm just saying it would have put an ace up their sleeve. This NAND memory sounds volatile so it's not the same, but could give similar advantages. The 5400RPM harddrive in the PS4 is its worst bottleneck, and this would have helped offset that by opening another (superfast) tap. Do you want to know why it doesn't have it? It's because the hardware was locked down before it became popular. Now that's common sense and it's very unfortunate. I'm putting a hybrid in my PS4, should speed things up nicely. A normal SSD is a senseless replacement due to costs for an appropriate amount of storage.
NAND flash memory is suitable for storing large amounts of data.Ideal for storing image and music files, Fast data transfer rates, Low bit cost
I can swap out my PS4 HDD to a larger size, maybe even SSD. I can't even swap out the Xbone's HDD without voiding warranty.
What's that have to do with the NAND flash?
It was revealed on August 27 at Hotchips tech convention. The x1 has 4 lanes of 68/GBs DDR3 with 64bit processing
I dont really know much about this kind of techy stuff but that sounds powerful lol and its probably something to do with the cloud
O lord plz don't turn this into another secret sauce event. It's already know devs have no access to it. And the sub par games still show. Until Microsoft proves and shows us bigger and better games taking advantage of the x1 then it's all talk as far as I'm concerned.
To be fair I think Ryse shows the console is absolutely capable of generating games that visually are stunning. Ryse and Killzone both take the cake for visuals at launch. Ryse unfortunately lacks a variety in the combat which for an action game is a big deal and a big reason why its review scores are tanking.
This has been know for a while. MS engineers stated it was for storing tombstoned apps and games.
Dat "secret sauce". lol.
I thought that was for the OS? No? Secret Sauce?
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