While you're inside the Xbox One, you may also notice the amount of easy to replace, standard hardware. It's true: 64 mm Torx screws hold the Xbox One's internals together and a SATA data connector pairs the Blu-ray/DVD drive to the motherboard.
Glad to hear Msoft doing something cool with HDD's for once.
Yea sounds cool to me alright
Except that it's not confirmed to work in the end. And don't forget that you'll lose your warranty if you do it.
Yeah, you'd have to have a way to transfer the OS from the original drive to the new one (if that's where it's stored, that is). I would imagine it doesn't work to swap. More likely, Microsoft made it easy to replace at their repair/replace facility in case of failure.
Not confirmed. But boy did they make the Xbox One really accessible. No adhesive warranty on the box it'self except for the HDD....hmmmm, pretty interesting.
LMFAO! For a long time there were a couple of people here on N4G talking all this BS about how the PS4 was/is built with off the shelf parts and yet Engadget here specifically states that about the XB1 but NOT about the PS4. Where you at now?
@Oner, you don't know what you're talking about. The issue is actually being able to replace the drive and make it work.
I don't know what I am talking about huh? Yeah sure... 1) http://n4g.com/comments/red... 2) http://n4g.com/comments/red... 3) http://n4g.com/comments/red... 4) http://n4g.com/comments/red... 5) http://n4g.com/comments/red...
Nah, it won't work. It's just like the Xbox 360, the first models you can't upgrade the HDD, then later down the road they'll give you the capacity, but you'll need to buy their overpriced models of HDDs. Only Microsoft can format the HDDs and if you open your Xbox One you automatically void your warranty.
The warranty question was my main concern reading this if it actually worked.
So what is that extra 8GB of NAND flash memory for?
I'm going to make an estimate that the system costs around $240 to build. Cheap components everywhere. Ugh.
This makes me love how easily you can swap HDD's on the ps4, no hassle.
Does this mean ms has no plans to increase the hdd storage in the system (like the 360 with the replacement drives), but instead opting for allowing you to increase storage by way of external drives only? If so, thats good that you will not have to overpay for disk space. Not sure which take is better. External usb or replaceable internal disk?
"Off the shelf parts" sounds like they're back to where they started: Original Xbox, it's like they never learned from the original Xbox in the first place!
omg @ oner wtf dude. They are talking about user replaceable standard hdd, torx screws and sataII adapter that are off the shelf. I didn't see anything at all in the story about off the shelf APU, audio or gpgpu, which is what was correctly pointed out about the ps4 components. Can't believe you made a big deal out of standard torx screws. Do try to relax.
that fan is huge
And all you have to do is simply void the warranty. "Cool" indeed. /s At least they can replace a broken one easily.
Has anyone actually tried to replace the drive. Is there some sort of encryption on the internal HDD that makes it compatible with Xbox. There is a reason why they insist that its non removable - even though it is removable. Edit: It seems that you have to pry the system open and locate the drive underneath other components, including a WiFi antennae. This may make it difficult to access the drive and inexperienced modders may incur damage to their systems; thus Microsoft saw fit to void the warranty.
It may look like a standard HDD but for all we know it may have modified firmware to prevent people from plugging in just any old hard drive. Even if you are willing to void your warranty I'd wait until some other sucker tries it first and proves whether you can upgrade the drive.
Microsoft already said during the Wired teardown that the hard drive is not consumer replaceable. They require the unit be returned for any hard drive repair and it isn't designed to be replaced with any generic hard drive. It's going to be encrypted. Notice the connector is not a simple SATA connector, it is a module. Something going on in that.
I'm sure they have some kind of encryption to prevent swapping the internal HDD. Knowing Microsoft the only supported external HDD will be Xbox One branded at ridiculously inflated prices.
If it's anything like the 360 then you would need to get a model of drive that has been used in a One and then install the firmware cloned from one of these drives. So, if you wanted a 1TB drive a 1TB One would need to already exist in order to clone the firmware, partitioning and formatting. That is precisely what I did to get a 120GB drive for my 20GB launch 360. While I could have purchased an official drive I much preferred spending a quarter of the price on a drive I already knew was used in the official drive housing.
I wouldn't replace it until someone else tried. Even then, I PERSONALLY wouldn't replace it, anyways. I'm just going to go the external HDD route. I used to mod my original Xbox, and you could get banned if you logged into Xbox Live with modded hardware. You can be sure that MS has protocols in place to ensure that the stock hardware remains untouched. Though, modders always find a way around these things. Only a matter of time!
@FITgamer: MS already stated that any external hard drive will work via USB.
That is very stupid, don't you think? Why would M$ LIMIT the amount of storage we can hold when all next gen games are huge and will fill up 300GB, 500GB with the help of media?(movies) in no time Here are the launch games' install sizes: Angry Birds Star Wars: 1.81 GB Assassin’s Creed 4: 20.25GB Battlefield 4: 33.66GB Battlefield 4 Premium: 8.18MB Call of Duty: Ghosts: 39.5GB Crimson Dragon: 6.88GB – Dead Rising 3: 19.9GB Dead Rising 3: Day One Premium Edition: no size FIFA 14: 8.7GB Fighter Within: 9.22 GB Forza 5: 31.76 GB Just Dance 2014: 22.97GB Killer Instinct: 3.25GB Killer Instinct Ultra Edition: 3.25GB + 7.51MB Kinect Sports Rivals Preseason: 3.09GB Lego Marvel Super Heroes: 6.48GB LocoCyle: 13.17GB Madden NFL 25: 12.51GB NBA 2K14: 43.14GB NBA Live 14: 9GB Need for Speed: Rivals: 15.35GB Powerstar Golf: 3.92GB Ryse: 34.94GB Skylanders Swap Force: 15.72GB Xbox Fitness: 252.13MB Zoo Tycoon: 2.62 GB Zumba Fitness World Party: 24.14GB
The Xbone probably still uses a hard drive with the fatx format and unique firmware. Yes the HDD is just a standard SATA hardrive but it has been modified by MS and will not work in a PC nor a PC drive work in the Xbone (without modifiying/hacking). Not only will you void your warranty but you could risk getting your console banned. I had one of my 360's banned from live when my DVD drive died and before I replaced it I played on live without it plugged in to the motherboard. I guess MS assumed It was something to do with piracy anyway it gave a error code and was flagged by ms and banned. You have been warned.
Huh? Seems like a hassle to replace it and you void your warranty, easier on my PC.
If you buy a pre-built pc, changing the internals voids your warranty anyway. But still, easier to change on pc even though I don't understand why it's a valid comparison.
@killa, not if your are certified to work on computers :P
It's a valid comparison cause one of the main points of consoles (apparently) is the ease of use. I'm a PC guy and don't really get that having build PCs since the 90s but ye. So it's very much valid.
Cool until they find out you changed it and ban your console.
How is it cool that a very simple (and cheap) addition would have made the drive removable, but they chose not to do it?