Submitted by Riderz1337 437d ago | review

Revision3: Ryse Son of Rome Video Review

Adam Sessler reviews the Xbox One exclusive launch title, Ryse: Son of Rome. (Ryse: Son of Rome, Xbox One) 2/5

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The_Infected  +   437d ago
About what I expected. The game looks good but the gameplay looks bland to me.
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Riderz1337  +   437d ago
He says it reminds him of Knack, not including the pretty graphics, saying that the gameplay is boring and repetitive and the story isn't very intriguing.
MusicComposer  +   437d ago
Except Knack got 3/5 stars and Ryse got 2/5 from them, that's pretty crazy. Ryse is also only around 5 hours long, half the length.
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Ultra  +   437d ago
Are you sure link to the review was correct? It goes to forza review, can't find the ryse review there.

edit: ok. looks like it was a mistaken review.
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Bruce_Wayne  +   437d ago
You beat me to putting my first news!


OT: I wasn't expecting much from this game. Boring seems just about right if the previews were any thing to go by. That good review we saw earlier wasn't even a real review. Curious to see what the rest will be like.
ZBlacktt  +   437d ago
So it has begun.... Like I said people rent it before you buy it.
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pyramidshead  +   437d ago
Some people are going to eat a tonne of crow today, but I'll wait for a few more reviews to do some serving :P
minimur12  +   437d ago
First of all, Ryse is only 5 hours long?!?!?!


" The story is cringeworthy"
This is a crytek game we're talking about, so yeah.

And I know this sounds harsh, but I'm pretty glad its bad, I'm geting a PS4 and was kinda pissed that I'd be missing out on this game, now I'm just annoyed how I'll never play Dead Rising 3 lol
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theBAWSE  +   437d ago | Well said
damn when one of the biggest bias xbone supporters marks a AAA game this low you know the game is wack

don't worry Microsoft fanatics polygon will give it a 8
Insomnia_84  +   437d ago
Knack is better than Ryse!


Microsoft: "XBone has the best exclusives"

I don't think so!

More exclusives than PS4 on launch, one with the lowest scores of the next gen games and last gen graphics (Lococycle) and the most hyped turned out to be borefest (Ryse)
kickerz  +   437d ago
I'm gonna wait for ign review to make judgement. This Adam bloke seams like a total di_ k looking for attention.
andibandit  +   437d ago
Submitted by Riderz1337

Lol, might as well have been MariaHelFutura.
DARK WITNESS   437d ago | Trolling | show
itBourne  +   437d ago
I think the most unsettling thing is this pay for progress structure. This BETTER not make its way into all games. Game design will go down hill to appease this sort of thing. I hope to no end that no other devs will follow. MS can do it their first parties are shit anyhow so I dont care lol, just hope it dont ruin other games.
Studio-YaMi  +   437d ago
Just as I thought,a mediocre game with good visuals,like all other Crytek games.
kickerz  +   437d ago
Sorry guys I take it back . Ign gave it 6.8. Guess I won't be buying that game . Had high hopes too.
starchild  +   437d ago
What's clear to me is that, with a few exceptions, most of the best games this season are multiplats, not exclusives.

That's not to say that people can't get enjoyment out of some of these exclusives. Individual taste varies and even if the majority finds a game to be "average" it might be more than average to you.
DragonKnight  +   437d ago
@minimur12: You should check out Tara Long's review of Dead Rising 3 then.


@andibandit: Neither Riderz1337 nor MariaHelFutura are responsible for the review itself, so why does it matter which of them submitted it?

@DARK WITNESS: Adam didn't review Knack, Tara Long did. We have no way of knowing what he would have given Knack.

@Xbox fanboys like JokesOnYou: Although I loathe using Adam Sessler to be correct on this, I told you that this was going to happen. But just because Ryse is scoring badly, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it just like people have fun with Knack. Now I think we can table the issue of both of those games wouldn't you agree?
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Game-ur  +   437d ago
If X1 fans want to brag about the games they can't

If they want to enjoy the games for themselves they can
Mystogan  +   437d ago
Ryse still has a higher Metacritic though. 61.

Knack has 56..
malokevi  +   437d ago
Man, that sucks. i was hoping for decent reviews. I guess I'll be crossing this one off the list. Bummer.

Might be a good one to get used, though.
DatNJDom81  +   437d ago
No surprise here. It's a crytek game. but its really bad when xboner adam sessler says its bad. I wonder where are all the "ryse is awesome. ryse looks better than anything on PS4" guys are. xboner adam sessler rated Knack higher than ryse. Lets take a minute to process that bit of information. LOL
Kingthrash360  +   437d ago
bro pass dat popcorn!
x1 #1 hyped game just got bumped next to loco cycle.
all this trash talking about kz.. dayum knack gunna beat ryse out it seems. knack 3/5 ryse 2/5 from rev3...ouch
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thrust  +   437d ago
Wait for the real reviews or you could end up looking stupid!
Theyellowflash30  +   437d ago
Both Knack and Ryse suck.

Killzone isn't that great either.

Get a Wii U - Rayman Legends, Super Mario 3D World, Zelda Wind Waker HD, Pikmin 3, and The Wonderful 101. Much better games and value this holiday.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   437d ago

Oh, so this isn't a real review? Get outta here man. I may not care for review scores but i think this passes for a "real review".....how does one become a "fake" review?

Never change, thrust!
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MysticStrummer  +   437d ago
"Wait for the real reviews or you could end up looking stupid!"

Ahhh yes. Wait for the real opinions.

As much as Sessler obviously favored 360 and has carried that over to XB1, first demanding 1080p then backpedaling, this score is a bad sign. If anyone was going to overrate Ryse, it would be Sessler, and like him or not his name is big enough to count as a "real" review.
SniperControl  +   437d ago

Wait, you were loving sessler when he kicked Knack and KZ, but now you hate him for kicking Ryse??

Way ta go dude............lol
ShinMaster  +   437d ago
@ Theyellowflash30

Already played Rayman Legends on PS3. I already have Wind Waker on GameCube. Pikmin 3 and W101? No thanks.
thrust  +   437d ago
Its my last day of trolling here :)

will be playing
M-M  +   437d ago
Off Topic:


Just wanted to let you know, you're pretty bad at trolling lol. The true kings here on N4G are Frigid and Belking.

On Topic:

It's pretty funny, I thought that even Microsoft's biased sites would rate Ryse high. I knew the gameplay was going to drag this game down.
NewZealander  +   437d ago
so the games not good oh noes! the world must be ending! build a bridge bro, such a fanboy...

thats why i would never preorder a game with no proven track record.
Mystogan  +   437d ago
Knack metacritic is 56.
Ryse is 61...ouch!

And it's not the number 1 hyped game...That would be Forza 5.
trancefreak  +   437d ago
Killzone was bad arse despite its short comings.
Novistador  +   437d ago
No matter how you look at a 2 is bad and a 3 is just meh. Both exclusives have left much to be desired. They look great but (and no surprise here) lack in the game play department. Crytek can never make a good story this im not even remotely surprised with. The hack and slash game play seems fun, but I refuse to buy a game that only plays for 5hrs.
FlunkinMonkey  +   437d ago
This is surprising, from Sessler?! This is probably not good news for reviews.. But whatever, if u like the look of it, get it... 99% of reviews i've seen are complete FUD with an agenda.

I would like to however point out that the counter for humble pie is that a way for all the idiots drilling KZ reviews.
showtimefolks  +   437d ago
This is not surprising I expect this game to be mid 6's and some 7s and maybe few 8ish reviews

Overall in the 60 plus metacritic

Launch games aren't great I just think people over expected. Wait till late 2014 for some awesome games. But launch games have been better so far. It's just some games will not turn out great
What's sad is fanboys get happy when a game gets bad score, knack got bad scores and Xbox fanboys were yeh ps4 launch games suck and now that Xbox one games are getting about the same sores now ps4 fanboys are doing the same

Than there is the fact that Xbox fanboys are overlooking so many PSN games that are getting high 80's scores yet only pointing to knack and now ps4 fanboys will bring up Ryse


Correct me if I am wrong wasn't Ryse a current gen game for xbox360 and original kinect?

Also very disappointed that crytek hasn't learned anything from their past. Crytek graphics can only take you so far
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JamieL  +   437d ago
I agree Show, all these fanboy's wishing ill for the "other group's" stuff, is a sad reflection of the morals (or complete lack of) our society produces. It's all about me, my opinion, and what I'm entitled too, screw anything else. LOL we are all gamers, yet it seems some are ready to take this war of toys to the street. Sad but true, I don't know what to do about it, but try to stay logical, and not make any of it personal. I fail at that at times, but it doesn't make it any better or more acceptable.
I mean you can have two folks that really agree 100% on an issue here, but have one attack the other just for mentioning Sony, or MS in the comment. Even though they agree about it, just because a certain Corporation was named, even if the other person was referring to both MS and Sony, they feel the need to ATTACK. Pretty pathetic if you ask me, but I can’t claim innocent of doing the same thing. Just sucks our world is in a state where people will fight, and even hate over a hobby that’s supposed to be fun.
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showtimefolks  +   436d ago

no doubt man just fanboys every where and only their opinions suppose to matter
MightyNoX  +   437d ago
Expected, indeed. What I did not expect was Adam Sessler giving it that score since I assumed he was in Microsoft's pocket.
BBBirdistheWord  +   437d ago
yeah. odd.

It's almost like all of the ps4 fanboys that were hating this guy were... wrong?

Can you believe it?

Wasn't this the same guy that got hated on by the ps4 fanboys when he complained loudly that he was not allocated time to test the ps4 hardware for a proper review prior to the ps4 launch?

Watch the ps4 fanboys dance to his tune now! :)
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G20WLY  +   437d ago
^BBBut BBBirdie, you're off topic BBBuddy!

Didn't you want to comment on the review or the score itself? Thought you might have some views...lol

As for me? Same as everybody else; I'd already seen enough and long since lost any hope of this being a decent game, sadly. Just keepin' it real.
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trancefreak  +   437d ago
Well Forza got a 5 from cesslor which is from Microsoft studios. So Either Forza is that good, or he leaned into MS favor.

I actually like Adam"s reviews, and speaking of the reviewers IMO; are just that; Opinionated.
JustPlay4  +   437d ago
And people this would be better then god of war series and if I remember right he gave every god of war game a 5/5 and gave this a 2/5 just saying, I not talking about graphics about game play
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   437d ago
LOL, who said that?! You have to be seriously dumb to say that RYSE looks better than God Of War....or you have never played or seen a God Of War.

God Of War has deeper combat (so many moves), different weapons to string together combos, tons more variety of enemies, it has difficult puzzles, larger areas....did i mention its one of the playstations best and most loved franchises?
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kiz2694  +   437d ago
Yeah I started to see that, it was like last week, the xbone fanboys were defending Ryse by saying it was similar to GOW mainly down to the similar setting, but as we all know, they are very much different.
Deltaguy  +   437d ago
like killzone to me...i would say knack but that game looks bland and is boring....
B-radical  +   437d ago
So glad i waited for reviews aha but people have been saying dont worry about reviews so i dont know if i should buy it or not :/
n4rc  +   437d ago
I bought it completely expecting to trade it back in a week later

Best buy is offering $40 for all launch games... So its essentially a $20 rental for me.. Will pick up dr3 or forza when I'm dine playing it
PSNrandom15  +   437d ago
All those poor souls who bought this game, now it is too late they are already shipping. Classic Microsoft. Keeping the embargo until the very end then bang low scores all over the place. Microsoft Xboning people yet again.
Mystogan  +   437d ago
Knack has 56 that's under 60 which means you should save your money, if you're not a fan of the franchise.

Ryse has 61. Which to me means its worth the money if its your kind of game and you have nothing else to play.

above 70 means you should definitely spend your money if its your kind of game.

above 80 means that you will enjoy it regardless of whether or not its your kind of game.

That's all me though.
Clunkyd  +   437d ago
lol even PolySoft gave this game a 60
HugoDrax  +   437d ago
Showcase title, nothing more. It still will sell enough to warrant a sequel, and maybe then Crytek will improve on it's gameplay. I'm still purchasing this title tomorrow, as I love Roman history :-)

As far as KNACK! eventually I'll pick it up once it's on sale, I did enjoy the demo.
Hellsvacancy  +   437d ago
Did Crytek improve the gameplay for Crysis 2 and 3?

The graphics do look really nice I will admit, i'm glad next gen is here, well, it's not here for me yet, waiting for The Witcher 3
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MajorJackHoff  +   437d ago
2/5?? I was looking forward to this game, it had a lot of potential.. But I ain't wasting my money on a 2/5 game.
HeavenlySnipes  +   437d ago
Crysis 3 overall was a better game than Crysis 2

Crytek sucks at story telling but they did improve the game a lot over Crysis 2
asmith2306  +   437d ago
For me launch titles are all about graphical showcasing, end of. PS4 and X1 both have similar stories when it comes to their launch lineup. The good stuff always comes down the line, which is were I think Sony will excel, like last gen. Their 1st party studios are ace. The PS4 even has the slight advantage in the multiplat department this gen as well.
Riderz1337  +   437d ago
Aww they just took the review down. It wasn't supposed to be put online today so that's why. Anyways, we know the score it was a 2/5.

The only thing he listed as "like" was great visuals. The rest were dislike.
HugoDrax  +   437d ago
Exactly so where did the review Go? I clicked on the link and it took me to Forza 5.


No problem, appreciate the link. I hadn't realized Sessler had reviewed games for Xbox One already? Anyhow 22 hrs to go till I pick up my xbox one.
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Riderz1337  +   437d ago
Yes they took it down. I think they accidentally put the review up on their website too early. At first, when I tried to put a direct link to the video it said "This video has not been made public yet". I instantly knew the review had gone up early so I had to put a link to Adam Sesslers page instead of the video. So now Forza 5 shows up, which was his last review.

Sorry guys.
Riderz1337  +   437d ago

check it out everyone!
Lovable  +   437d ago
Called it. Game was a major flop. Well, it was obvious enough when Crytek is the one behind it.
ZBlacktt  +   437d ago
That would be I. But I was being nice about it, lol.
MasterCornholio  +   437d ago
And I thought Adam would rate this much higher.

Anyways I predict mixed reviews for the game.

Nexus 7 2013
jessupj  +   437d ago
Maybe he purposefully was harsh with the review to try to gain some credibility back.

Won't work on me though.
skoorydook  +   437d ago
So has got a 4/5 and a 2/5

Said this would split reviewers and got a shed load of disagrees.
obliteratorFTW  +   437d ago
Hats off to Sessler, all past mistakes forgiven :P
OrangePowerz  +   437d ago
Nope not forgiven. :)
Omran  +   437d ago
i don't care about the reviews
i will get the game when i get
the console !

PS4 fan for life :)
MajorAly  +   437d ago
Sessler, although a bit of a drama queen at times, does do a good job at explaining in detail what is wrong at what point.
Crazay  +   437d ago
He's one of the few reviewers that I feel I can relate to on any level. I'm pretty disappointed about this review. I didn't expect some game of epic awesomeness but I did at least hope for a 3.5 out of 5.
SpiralTear  +   437d ago
I agree with @MajorAly that Adam has had his share of overreactions, whether it's the God of War IV problem or the PS4 rant on Twitter, but as a writer, he's really good at what he does. He does tend to articulate himself a bit too well (he kind of words up his sentences), but I still like the way he examines the games. It just works well to me.

I honestly expected a 2/5 for Ryse, but as the review embargo date approached, I still had a bit of hopeful curiosity that the game wouldn't be that bad to the critics. So much for that.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   437d ago
Buying it regardless of the scores.

"Saving private Romulus"


Seems like its exactly how i said it was going to be MONTHS ago ....great looking but with repetitive, clunky combat. This is Crytek after all......

But by the time i buy it it will be at least half price so its all good.
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dis_gen_gun_b_gud  +   437d ago
Dat Sess is bonkers does he not realise his true colours are Green!!
Dont expect to see the usual suspects in this thread, no Belking, no Death whats his name, no MAR capitals name, no that spanner with the batman avatar WB something or other, the most rabid fanbois this site has.
Here is your GOTY, pretty it may be but its the equivalent of a pretty Council Trash Tart not much going on upstairs, smells and worth a 5 minute pump but you would never get her number or see her again!!!!!
With all the Sess hate the past week i actually thoroughly enjoyed this review, the guy can be impartial, a turd is a turd no matter how much you polish it.
tagan8tr  +   437d ago
You forgot Jokesonyou, I so hope he jumps in I need a good laugh..
CEOSteveBallmer  +   437d ago
MS has no shame just like its hardcore fans. telling the website to take down the review because its so low. but when other websites give sony a low score too they don't mind. MS so concerned about their image. im sorry but they really are the dirty players among the 3 console makers
n4rc  +   437d ago
Didn't bill gates kill you on south park last night? :p
Kevlar009  +   437d ago
Damn, the review was pretty brutal, but I can see how the gameplay can get a bit stale overtime. Guard and hack, slow-mo into QTE, repeat. Tbh the multiplayer looked more impressive than the single player, the changing environments and the need to manage incoming waves rather than fighing one enemy at a time looked appealing.

Slow-motion kills and pretty visuals can only get you so far. It's hard to take Sessler's word on everything, but overall the game looks like it played it safe in the gameplay department. It's what you would expect from Crytek really
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grassyknoll  +   437d ago
This game looks awful: no depth, repetitive & it plays itself. 2/5 seems kind.
first1NFANTRY  +   437d ago
hahahaha that's brutally honest of you.
DarthSocio  +   437d ago
Crytek can't make decent games.
WeaseL  +   437d ago
Microtransactions for a 5hr game?
fooltheman  +   437d ago
The future on Xbox one...

(He also said it a was sort of corridor hack and slasher. That's why the graphics are good. If they would make it more open, than the graphics would receive a downgrade).

Killzone improved its graphics while becoming more open.
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SmielmaN  +   437d ago
I've been enjoying KZ:SF a lot. The graphics are awesome and the game has some big environments to shoot around in. Plus the OWL is awesome
Edsword  +   437d ago
I knew that when I saw the previews. It's a good looking game, but it's kind of dead spaceish with level size. Honestly, the actual gameplay graphics still did not look that amazing to me.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   437d ago
5 hours? Ugh.
Kevlar009  +   437d ago
"Yo dawg, I heard you paid $60 for your game, so I put in microtransactions so you can pay for content you already 'paid' for"

MT's are some of the dumbest things to come out last gen. They act like it's a generous offering, as if it's a favor to the player, when in reality it's a poorly veiled grab at more profits.

It's shameful imo to have people pay for any content available the same day as a game's release. Just rediculous
SmielmaN  +   437d ago
Totally agree. They also pull the "preorder exclusive content" card and when u put in the code you see it's a 100kb download, which tells me it's already on the disc. I hate that!
Demster  +   437d ago
it's the fault of people who buy DLCs and support this kind of bs. that's why they never finish games anymore. instead they just release what they have and make the idiots pay even more for stuff that should've been included first place
Goku781  +   437d ago
So I was right again. There was way to much bad stuff behind this game.
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obliteratorFTW  +   437d ago
Knack 3/5

Ryse 2/5

Rofl. But hey don't worry, I am sure polygon and others will rescue Ryse lol.
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mixelon  +   437d ago
I doubt that'll happen this time, but who knows? :)
JeffGUNZ  +   437d ago
both games fail to deliver but ryse is still above knack on metacritic. Doesn't really mean much since both games fail to deliver.
Hicken  +   436d ago
Then why mention it?
JeffGUNZ  +   436d ago
@ Hicken

Simple, because he made a jab at his last sentence. Even though Knack and Ryse fail to deliver, Ryse is still viewed as the better of the two overall.
Hicken  +   436d ago
That's why this comment?

And this one?

"At least Ryse is better than Knack." Seems like you're trying desperately to convince people of that, perhaps even yourself.

We all know you prefer Xbox. Nobody minds that. But it starts getting pretty pathetic when you have to keep rewriting the rules so you have something positive to say about the games/console you prefer. Knack isn't actually as bad as Ryse(if only because the kids Knack aims at won't mind the repetition like adults will). Comments about which next-gen system has the better games isn't just about exclusives because you say so. The 360 didn't win the console war based on marketshare. Having 9 trophies- the last of which you got years ago- doesn't make you well-versed on PSN.

You PM me with some long message about me supposedly spewing BS, but at least I'm not moving goalposts.
g-nome  +   437d ago
It does look fantastic graphics wise.
SwordandShield  +   437d ago
Ouch! And this coming from Sessler.
SlyFamous02  +   437d ago
The game looks pretty no doubt, but seriously, this is a crytek project so I did not really expect much from it.
first1NFANTRY  +   437d ago
wow AAA a stuff right here folks lol.

Crytek are like the Michael Bay of the video game industry. I have come to realize their games are 70% blowing sh!t up and over-the-top action sequences with pretty graphics, and 30% worthwhile story.

i was hopping the game would do a bit better since it reminded me of the movie Gladiator but i guess it's all graphics and no substance.

Guess the only worthwhile launch game on the X1 is Forza5. Even then the game is half complete and full of microtransactions.

Certainly not worth spending $500 at this point in time. I advise people to either get a ps4 or wait till March next year to get the X1.
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AgitatedOcelot  +   437d ago
That's an insult to Michael Bay. At least he made one movie where you can oogle Scarlet Johansson. Crytek is batting pretty much zero so far.
g-nome  +   437d ago
I'm going ps4 but face it ... it does look like a lot better game than knack.
calis  +   437d ago
Completely different though.
drsfinest72   437d ago | Bad language | show
Edsword  +   437d ago
Knack looks great for what it is. It was never trying to compete with Ryse. Knack is 1080p too, but I'm not sure if it is 60 fps, I think it is. Knack was meant to show off the ability of the ps4 to handle hundreds of objects. I actually enjoy the game in small doses. It is repetitive, but I'm not trying to beat it in one setting like game reviewers do.
chrissx  +   437d ago
Everything about ryse just screams "Crytek" and I won't even say what that means cus we all know.
Grandmaster-B  +   437d ago
Well, thats Crytek at his finest...a full on GFX blender, nothing more.
TheOneYouHate  +   437d ago
Me la curo
drsfinest72  +   437d ago
trolls trying too hard. It's almost pathetic Lmfaoo I love this site!
90Supra  +   437d ago
The shit storm is coming...
edonus  +   437d ago
The most hated Adam Sessler is about to be the man and the truest authority on gaming that has ever graced the pages of N4G after ripping Ryse apart like this.

His review makes you not want the game but I dont know. I have seen it and it looks like it appeals to me.

Knowing the politics in gaming and that hive mind, he gave Forza 5 a perfect score so you know they will have to balance it out. Ryse new IP sacrificial lamb.

I havent played the game to disagree buy I never like when someone is trying to tell me whether to like the story art style or dialogue. I have been watching Spartacus and other roman based stories and have enjoyed them.

I even have issues with the way he described combat.... I mean when you do a general breakdown you basically blocking, attacking and finding the enemies weak spot during a pattern. I mean this is a game.

I respect Adam and his opinion but I think I will have to see this one for myself.
Edsword  +   437d ago
A lot of reviews gave Forza a 7. If they were all be honest, that is probably what it deserves. It's the same game, shinier, with less content as Forza 4. Why doesn't it get the same old thing treatment Killzone received? Even so it is tracking low for Forza. Now it doesn't appear either system has that killer app. Just a typical launch.
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first1NFANTRY  +   437d ago
@ edonus

"The most hated Adam Sessler is about to be the man and the truest authority on gaming that has ever graced the pages of N4G after ripping Ryse apart like this."

No, just No. One somewhat agreeable review will not make up for the years of inconsistency and fanboy drivel. This just softens the blow for a brief period of time, NOTHING MORE. He's still untrustworthy and a hypocrite until proven innocent.
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