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Polygon Caught Lying About PS4 on Their Xbox One Stream

Jeremy Conrad writes: This morning, gaming site Polygon is doing a twelve-hour live stream showing off the Xbox One. Right before the comical demo of Dead Rising 3, where most of the voice commands didn’t seem to work and they couldn’t even snap Internet Explorer correctly, a panel of editors discussed the system that the site seems to be carrying so much water for. During this panel, site Editor-in-Chief Chris Grant stated a couple times that one advantage the Xbox One has over the PS4 is that the Xbox One supports remote controls and the PS4 does not. He even used the example that grandma would want to use the Xbox One over the PS4 because she wouldn’t want to use the Dual Shock 4 to watch a movie. Later, he used the example of Netflix on how the Xbox One is a superior choice over the PS4 for Netflix because of remote support. The problem with these statements is that they are lies.

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GarrusVakarian951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

Polygon is biased?

I would never have guessed! /s

For "professionals", many people in this industry can be extremely petty. I expect it amongst the general gaming population....but not industry professionals.

Never cared for Polygon anyway.......Now i will actively avoid them.

-Foxtrot951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

So despite the problems...they give it an 8 while the PS4 got a 7.5

Hmmmmmmm

I'm sorry but I wish some higher ups in the games industry would call them out. This is ridiculous.

Hell they even blocked the guy for pointing this out lol

xHeavYx951d ago

Lies! Polygon is the most unbiased website ever, they never got almost $1M from MS... /s

blitz0623951d ago

Wow he blocked Jeremy. How unprofessional can you get?

ZodTheRipper951d ago

After seeing HipHopGamer being banned it hurts my soul seeing Polygon and Adam Sessler articles on this site ...does N4G really need more proof that these guys are the worst examples of gaming journalism that's out there right now? I mean even Kotaku is acceptable compared to them.

SpringHeeledJack951d ago

If HHG can get banned from this site then so should polygon with their lies and trolling. If the mods are truly unbiased on here then polygon will be banned from n4g after this.

JhawkFootball06951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

@Foxtrot

Wait so since they rated the Xbox One higher, you are wanting higher ups in the game industry to call them out as frauds? I hate fanboyism but is it seriously getting to this degree??

Kryptix951d ago

I have said it since many months now, why can people still post Polygon articles on N4G when they are heavily biased to the point where they spread misinformation?

Polygon are the cancer of gaming journalism. I mean, we all have our preferences but that site only has a bunch of people with only one preference when it should be almost even on both sides. They know where they stand, as a bunch of shills, disagreeing with an unfair review or false statement gets you banned there.

scott182951d ago

@JhawkFootball06

It's not because it got rated higher at all, that is not what this is about. They lied about the remote control not working on it! Are you seriously defending them? This has nothing to do with fanboyism and everything to do with giving consumers false knowledge about a piece of hardware.

Statix951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

I really am surprised that journalists from other more "reputable" gaming sites (I use that term loosely), like Gamespot, IGN, or Giantbomb, never call Polygon out for their blatant bias and conflicts of interest. Are they all part of a media pact to not insult each other, or what?

After Jeff Gerstmann got fired because an advertiser got mad at him, you would think he'd be the first guy in line to lambaste Polygon and their shill antics.

badboy776951d ago

Let's Ban Polygon from N4G!!!

abc1233951d ago

@JhawkFootball06: I'm guessing they were separate points. The amount of questionable activity from Polygon has been endless, especially with Gies.

ziggurcat951d ago

@ jhawk:

"@Foxtrot

Wait so since they rated the Xbox One higher, you are wanting higher ups in the game industry to call them out as frauds?"

polygon repeatedly rates anything sony lower than anything MS-related. it's because MS lines their pockets.

-Foxtrot951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

@JhawkFootball06

Fanboyism...it's not about fanboyism, it's about right and wrong.

They lied in their live stream when they tried to make it look like the Xbox One had one over the PS4 when it didn't and despite the problems it's having on the live stream they gave it a better score. Sorry but I wouldn't really give that an 8.

It's not about being a fanboy, yeah I prefer the PS4...AT THE MINUTE because Sony actually give a crap about the core community and gamers in general. What Microsoft this gen has shown us is once they have your money the support will be minimum because they will get to save as much money as they can.

Oh and when I said I wanted them called out...it was for their bad journalism in general and how unprofessional they are. The guy got blocked for pointing something out

DragonKnight951d ago

Guys, HHG didn't get banned for flamebait articles/titles or for being a fanboy. He was banned for plagiarism.

Polygon, much like Kotaku, is here to stay. Mods will say that these sites get more upvotes than downvotes, but one already said that Kotaku has had a massive number of downvotes, dwarfing all upvotes, and still isn't gone.

The upvote/downvote system on N4G for sites doesn't work. It's either incorrectly implemented, or completely ignored. Unfortunately, as long as people keep submitting stories from these worthless sites, we'll always see them here.

blackbeld951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

N4G should ban Polygon for infinity!

Bias journalism should not be allowed. They are a bunch of freaking fanboys that calls themselves journalist.

Ban them!

Kryptix951d ago

@Foxtrot

That's what bothers me the most, when Jeremy got called a "weird dude" for pointing out a false statement they made and he even linked the video shown in the article as proof.

http://furiousfanboys.com/w...

The best thing that could of been done is admit that they were wrong in the Twitter post. Instead he banned Jeremy like the truth hurts, that's bad journalism right there. And they call themselves professional...

its_JEFF951d ago

I think it's pretty sad, as an industry, that most of the professional "journalist" aren't very professional. A lot of them don't even adhere to journalistic practices.

It's honestly really hard to find an unbiased gaming centric site these days. That being said, I've always found GiantBomb to be one of the most unbiased sites out there.

NarooN951d ago

So who's down to ban Polygon from N4G? The site is literally full of shills, they make it blatantly obvious and have no shame about it. They're literally worse than Kotaku.

It's interesting how people point out HHG -- HHG may have had sensationalist titles, but he wasn't nearly as bad as Polygon.

solidjun5951d ago

@its_JEFF

I really like GiantBomb. I just find them on point.

As for Polygon, I think they just want hits. Just don't give it them. I know it's hard, but I just don't read their stuff. I go to Giantbomb. I'm sure Hankmoody will say Polygon has integrity.

morganfell951d ago

Polygon are not staffed by professionals. They are not journalists but rather reporters. The chasm that lies between those two endeavors is as wide as the sea.

abzdine951d ago

let's ban them bit***s !!!!

vulcanproject951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

COD Ghosts has TOO MANY FRAMES on PS4. Deduct 0.5 from review!

Killzone Shadow fall has awesome grafix, but is same old

5/10

Forza 5 has decent grafix, is same old and less content

9/10

Polygon, oooohhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaa.

gaffyh951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

To be fair, most of the Polygon employees are complete idiots. So I can see them not understanding how a remote control works. Also, they must really be stupid if they think Sony won't release a PS4 remote at some point, they did it for PS2 and PS3, why would they stop now.

Their entire stream was quite biased, you could tell from the tone of their talking on the PS4 stream (they went into it expecting to hate it), and with the Xbone stream, they were EXTREMELY forgiving. To the point where they said something along the lines of:

"Kinect voice commands didn't work well for me, but when they worked, they worked really well, so it must have been my room or something."

What the shit...

maddskull950d ago

see the reviews they gave killzone 5 and most xbox games are higher than 7 and they gave forza a 9 which they dont deserve

user5575708950d ago

no idea who polygon is but i will make a point to not trust them

tiffac008950d ago

Welcome to the new age of gaming media where they no longer check for facts.

Enemy950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

And they're still getting money from Microsoft. That 750k was just to get the site going. This isn't the first time Microsoft gets their own slaves caught, paying random no-name websites to fabricate utter bullsh*t about PS4.

rainslacker950d ago

@Gaffy

Just an FYI. Sony is already releasing a blu-ray remote on 1/31/14. I'd imagine it will work for all the streaming apps like the PS3 remote did.

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4...

badz149950d ago

yeah...it's just Polygon being Polygon!

UNPROFESSIONAL AND STUPID! so...what's new?

pixelsword950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

My blog doesn't sound so stupid now, eh? Find the liars, find the lies...

This is just the continuation of what's been going on in one form or another by professionals and fanboys alike.

@DragonKnight:

What did HHG plagiarize? I'll need proof on that one. If I'm not mistaken, a LOT of sites were ripping off Tor Davis, and none of them were banned, and Tor Davis could tell you that himself.

FamilyGuy950d ago

Polygon has been down voted to hell on here yet the mods allow it to still have its articles and reviews posted because they think of it as a big enough site to be above the democratic voting system.
It annoys me because they are BLATANTLY in MSs pocket, they show more bias then some Xbox-focused site. All they're doing is weighing the game journalist industry down.

minimur12950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

To be honest I didn't know until this video showed up, it's kindof a 'backdoor' way into controlling the PS4 with a remote, so I believe them saying that it doesn't support remote control [NATIVELY]

Also, can you controll blue ray/dvd playback with the remote? (pause/start/ff/rw)

kerrak950d ago

Not sure which one is better Lolygon or Poliesgon

NoLongerHereCBA950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Why some people here get so many likes is beyond me.

@ vulcanproject. I'm not a racing fan; but comparing Forza Motorsport 5 to Killzone Shadowfall is really strange. Furthermore saying that FM5 didn't improve in anything besides the graphics just shows how biased and unrealistic you are as well as other people here.

I'm not saying that KZSF is a bad game, because I would love to play it if I had a PS4 even if it was just for the graphics alone and to see what some of my friends have been working on.

But FM5 is using the cloud (yes I dare say it) for things like AI, which is completely new. Whereas I read that the AI in KZSF is sometimes really dull. I would still rather play KZSF than FM5 though, since I prefer FPS games over driving games even if it received a lower score.

But as I said; it's difficult to compare them, since KZSF is being negatively graded due to the story etc, which is non-existent in this racing game.

Just enjoy the games you play and don't put so much faith in online reviews. If you want a game buy it and judge for yourself.

vulcanproject950d ago

VaizardNL

I hope you realise that polygon's marking system is blatantly flawed if they believe KZ is a 5 and Forza 5 is a 9, based on what they said in both review.

Forza 5 is a nice title, but its NOT, NOT a step change from Forza 4 by any means, and is marked lower by most sites because it lacks so much content it feels like half a game.

Secondly the one thing you pick out as new, the cloud AI, has come under fire by multiple reviews.

Many reviewers felt it actually detracts from the game, because the AI they were racing were racing like idiots. They were racing like you would online, over aggressive and making lots of stupid mistakes causing silly accidents.

If Turn 10 intended to create the hallmarks of poor online racing for offline races, then they did it and the AI is irritating. Irritating or dumb, take it as you will.

There is no way Polygon justified Forza 5 getting a 9 in their review if you read back the Shadow fall one, and concentrate on their criticisms

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pyramidshead951d ago

Shill site gotta shill.

To be fair, it can be narrowed down to just Gies. But that whole live stream there was some serious FUD spreading without any shame.

iDadio951d ago

Some will sadly believe the FUD to, their opinion should hold no weight to anyone personally and they should be taken off meta

EXVirtual951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

Polygon got 750k from MS. They'll lie about anything.
They give crappy scores to games on Playstation as well. Even though the PS4's CODG stutter issue was because the PS4 was exceeding 60fps, Polygon won't make an update to their review.
A lot of gaming journalists do what they do because they get money. Why do you think IGN gives COD 9's (8.8 for COD Ghosts) every year?

@-Foxtrot, fair enough.

-Foxtrot951d ago

True

But they only do it when a Sony game threaterns a game which is made by MS coming out in the same month

Take State of Decay and The Last of Us...they both came out the same month

However

Beyond Two Souls got a solid 8...but nothing from MS was coming out in October.

It only happens when it NEEDS to happen as I've noticed.

N2NOther951d ago

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they gave that score because they liked it. I would give every COD outside of Ghosts anywhere between a 9 (Black Ops, WAW, COD 3, MW3) and 10 (Call of Duty 4, MW2, COD 2, Black Ops 2) and I don't get paid to do so. Weird, huh?

NoLongerHereCBA950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

A stutter that seems like a framedrop is still a stutter. Doesn't matter whether it is due to more FPS or less. If it makes a game less playable, it should be counted as such.

Not updating the review depends on whether the patch came before the release of the console and game or after. Games rarely to never get updated depending on patches after release. Don't expect people to alter reviews simply because it makes you feel better.

If the patch came pre-release, then I would expect them to update it. But I don't know if that was/is the case.

BABY-JEDI951d ago

I'm actually seeing Polygon as being intentionally more critical towards Sony while showing adverts for the XB1. As for KZ review. The reviewer had already went on the record as not liking the series. This is clearly not impartial & unprofessional.

CryofSilence951d ago

No one takes them seriously anyway. Even fanboys should be cautious about what they say because they will deceive you too.

Veneno951d ago

You're wrong about that. They are on Metacritic and they have a large community that listens to what they say. People do take them seriously. and that's why this is a problem.

CryofSilence951d ago

Correct. Addendum: No one should take them seriously.

Sevir951d ago

They got a a start up fund from MS, so they pander to them more, the guys over there aren't a great bunch of journalists! In fact calling them journalists is false, they are just writers who biasly troll the industry we love and support, I'm glad Shu ripped one of the editors there a new one with the troll review of "The Last Of Us" they personally shouldn't be able to score interviews abd such since most of their stuff is either false or blatantly biased.

OlgerO951d ago

Why does polygon still have credibility at all ( metacritic for example ) they have proven to be a biased unprofessional site.

AgitatedOcelot951d ago

Calling another member of the media who is also a former IGN editor, a "creep" and blocking him on twitter for calling you out for false information is about as unprofessional as it gets.

Like parent company needs to start firing level unprofessional.

shammgod951d ago

Great quote to complete your thoughts...bubble to you!

"Never cared for Polygon anyway.......Now i will actively avoid them".

MikeGdaGod951d ago

not only that....but you can use the PS app on your phone or tablet to fully control the PS4

pivotplease951d ago

I always preferred ps3 netflix to 360 and pc netflix, so I'm not sure where these multimedia arguments spring from. PS3 and PSP ended up having ridiculous media capabilities after a few updates, and I expect PS4 to go in the same direction.

kneon951d ago

And that might be why PS3 is the top platform for NetFlix.

pivotplease951d ago

Is it? I think that makes sense considering all the people I know who run netflix on their ps3. Anyone notice the new update of the user interface? I'm wishing there was a way to change the settings because the picture in the top half makes it so you can only see half the selection you previously could.

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MightyNoX951d ago

Microsoft can't win in a head-to-head battle, so they resort to misinformation, belittling customers, bullying reviewers and throwing money to make people insult Sony.

I feel sick to my stomach...

WorldGamer950d ago

You should throw it up man. But nothing washes that sour taste from your mouth. It is very sad and disgusting. Well said sir.

Septic950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

"I feel sick to my stomach..."

Really? -__-

#firstworldproblems

ElementsUnknown951d ago

The problem is that someone can only be called a "liar" if they actively knew what they were saying was untrue. If not then they are just ignorant or uninformed. In the twitter exchange it appears that Chris Grant either holds a different definition of "working with a remote" or isn't as informed as the article writer. Either of those scenarios don't make Chris Grant a malicious "liar."

Perhaps if the article writer had pointed out the error and tried to educate Grant instead of attacking his character things made have gone better.

Whatever your console/news outlet allegiance accusing someone of willful and knowing deceit is a serious charge and shouldn't just be thrown around before they have a chance to explain themselves.

Prime157951d ago

Very well said, sir.

It is utterly annoying dealing with dealing with uneducated or missed information, but as soon as you cross the line and imply they were purposefully withholding it, then you have created a similar sh## storm.

moparful99950d ago

Whether he willfully lied or was uninformed is of little concern these guys pander themselves off as journalists yet they spread misinformation. Any good journalist will provide clear, concise, and factually relevant information. There's no ambiguity allowed when integrity is important and Polygon is losing more credibility ewith each passing day.

devwan951d ago

Polygon staff's only preference is increasing the girth of their wallets...

Shame. On. Them.

Jilokle950d ago

Phoneygon...one of misterFAKEmedia favorite gaming websites. Nuff said.

Tapewurm950d ago

Polygon needs a Polygraph 8)

adorie950d ago

Polygon, huh... not even surprised. they've been blacklisted since the last of us review. mf'ers.