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Submitted by OllieBoy 148d ago | news

Polygon Caught Lying About PS4 on Their Xbox One Stream

Jeremy Conrad writes: This morning, gaming site Polygon is doing a twelve-hour live stream showing off the Xbox One. Right before the comical demo of Dead Rising 3, where most of the voice commands didn’t seem to work and they couldn’t even snap Internet Explorer correctly, a panel of editors discussed the system that the site seems to be carrying so much water for. During this panel, site Editor-in-Chief Chris Grant stated a couple times that one advantage the Xbox One has over the PS4 is that the Xbox One supports remote controls and the PS4 does not. He even used the example that grandma would want to use the Xbox One over the PS4 because she wouldn’t want to use the Dual Shock 4 to watch a movie. Later, he used the example of Netflix on how the Xbox One is a superior choice over the PS4 for Netflix because of remote support. The problem with these statements is that they are lies. (PS4)

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Lukas_Japonicus  +   148d ago | Well said
Polygon is biased?

I would never have guessed! /s

For "professionals", many people in this industry can be extremely petty. I expect it amongst the general gaming population....but not industry professionals.

Never cared for Polygon anyway.......Now i will actively avoid them.
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-Foxtrot  +   148d ago | Well said
So despite the problems...they give it an 8 while the PS4 got a 7.5

Hmmmmmmm

I'm sorry but I wish some higher ups in the games industry would call them out. This is ridiculous.

Hell they even blocked the guy for pointing this out lol
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xHeavYx  +   148d ago | Funny
Lies! Polygon is the most unbiased website ever, they never got almost $1M from MS... /s
blitz0623  +   148d ago | Well said
Wow he blocked Jeremy. How unprofessional can you get?
ZodTheRipper  +   148d ago | Well said
After seeing HipHopGamer being banned it hurts my soul seeing Polygon and Adam Sessler articles on this site ...does N4G really need more proof that these guys are the worst examples of gaming journalism that's out there right now? I mean even Kotaku is acceptable compared to them.
SpringHeeledJack  +   148d ago | Well said
If HHG can get banned from this site then so should polygon with their lies and trolling. If the mods are truly unbiased on here then polygon will be banned from n4g after this.
JhawkFootball06  +   148d ago
@Foxtrot

Wait so since they rated the Xbox One higher, you are wanting higher ups in the game industry to call them out as frauds? I hate fanboyism but is it seriously getting to this degree??
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Kryptix  +   148d ago | Well said
I have said it since many months now, why can people still post Polygon articles on N4G when they are heavily biased to the point where they spread misinformation?

Polygon are the cancer of gaming journalism. I mean, we all have our preferences but that site only has a bunch of people with only one preference when it should be almost even on both sides. They know where they stand, as a bunch of shills, disagreeing with an unfair review or false statement gets you banned there.
scott182  +   148d ago | Well said
@JhawkFootball06

It's not because it got rated higher at all, that is not what this is about. They lied about the remote control not working on it! Are you seriously defending them? This has nothing to do with fanboyism and everything to do with giving consumers false knowledge about a piece of hardware.
Statix  +   148d ago
I really am surprised that journalists from other more "reputable" gaming sites (I use that term loosely), like Gamespot, IGN, or Giantbomb, never call Polygon out for their blatant bias and conflicts of interest. Are they all part of a media pact to not insult each other, or what?

After Jeff Gerstmann got fired because an advertiser got mad at him, you would think he'd be the first guy in line to lambaste Polygon and their shill antics.
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badboy776  +   148d ago | Well said
Let's Ban Polygon from N4G!!!
abc1233  +   148d ago | Well said
@JhawkFootball06: I'm guessing they were separate points. The amount of questionable activity from Polygon has been endless, especially with Gies.
ziggurcat  +   148d ago | Well said
@ jhawk:

"@Foxtrot

Wait so since they rated the Xbox One higher, you are wanting higher ups in the game industry to call them out as frauds?"

polygon repeatedly rates anything sony lower than anything MS-related. it's because MS lines their pockets.
-Foxtrot  +   148d ago | Well said
@JhawkFootball06

Fanboyism...it's not about fanboyism, it's about right and wrong.

They lied in their live stream when they tried to make it look like the Xbox One had one over the PS4 when it didn't and despite the problems it's having on the live stream they gave it a better score. Sorry but I wouldn't really give that an 8.

It's not about being a fanboy, yeah I prefer the PS4...AT THE MINUTE because Sony actually give a crap about the core community and gamers in general. What Microsoft this gen has shown us is once they have your money the support will be minimum because they will get to save as much money as they can.

Oh and when I said I wanted them called out...it was for their bad journalism in general and how unprofessional they are. The guy got blocked for pointing something out
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DragonKnight  +   148d ago | Well said
Guys, HHG didn't get banned for flamebait articles/titles or for being a fanboy. He was banned for plagiarism.

Polygon, much like Kotaku, is here to stay. Mods will say that these sites get more upvotes than downvotes, but one already said that Kotaku has had a massive number of downvotes, dwarfing all upvotes, and still isn't gone.

The upvote/downvote system on N4G for sites doesn't work. It's either incorrectly implemented, or completely ignored. Unfortunately, as long as people keep submitting stories from these worthless sites, we'll always see them here.
blackbeld  +   148d ago
N4G should ban Polygon for infinity!

Bias journalism should not be allowed. They are a bunch of freaking fanboys that calls themselves journalist.

Ban them!
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Kryptix  +   148d ago
@Foxtrot

That's what bothers me the most, when Jeremy got called a "weird dude" for pointing out a false statement they made and he even linked the video shown in the article as proof.

http://furiousfanboys.com/w...

The best thing that could of been done is admit that they were wrong in the Twitter post. Instead he banned Jeremy like the truth hurts, that's bad journalism right there. And they call themselves professional...
its_JEFF  +   148d ago
I think it's pretty sad, as an industry, that most of the professional "journalist" aren't very professional. A lot of them don't even adhere to journalistic practices.

It's honestly really hard to find an unbiased gaming centric site these days. That being said, I've always found GiantBomb to be one of the most unbiased sites out there.
NarooN  +   148d ago
So who's down to ban Polygon from N4G? The site is literally full of shills, they make it blatantly obvious and have no shame about it. They're literally worse than Kotaku.

It's interesting how people point out HHG -- HHG may have had sensationalist titles, but he wasn't nearly as bad as Polygon.
Eonjay  +   148d ago
Whats a Polygon?
solidjun5  +   148d ago
@its_JEFF

I really like GiantBomb. I just find them on point.

As for Polygon, I think they just want hits. Just don't give it them. I know it's hard, but I just don't read their stuff. I go to Giantbomb. I'm sure Hankmoody will say Polygon has integrity.
morganfell  +   148d ago
Polygon are not staffed by professionals. They are not journalists but rather reporters. The chasm that lies between those two endeavors is as wide as the sea.
abzdine  +   148d ago
let's ban them bit***s !!!!
vulcanproject  +   148d ago | Well said
COD Ghosts has TOO MANY FRAMES on PS4. Deduct 0.5 from review!

Killzone Shadow fall has awesome grafix, but is same old

5/10

Forza 5 has decent grafix, is same old and less content

9/10

Polygon, oooohhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaa.
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gaffyh  +   148d ago
To be fair, most of the Polygon employees are complete idiots. So I can see them not understanding how a remote control works. Also, they must really be stupid if they think Sony won't release a PS4 remote at some point, they did it for PS2 and PS3, why would they stop now.

Their entire stream was quite biased, you could tell from the tone of their talking on the PS4 stream (they went into it expecting to hate it), and with the Xbone stream, they were EXTREMELY forgiving. To the point where they said something along the lines of:

"Kinect voice commands didn't work well for me, but when they worked, they worked really well, so it must have been my room or something."

What the shit...
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maddskull  +   148d ago
see the reviews they gave killzone 5 and most xbox games are higher than 7 and they gave forza a 9 which they dont deserve
knockknockannefrank  +   148d ago
no idea who polygon is but i will make a point to not trust them
tiffac008  +   148d ago
Welcome to the new age of gaming media where they no longer check for facts.
Enemy  +   148d ago
And they're still getting money from Microsoft. That 750k was just to get the site going. This isn't the first time Microsoft gets their own slaves caught, paying random no-name websites to fabricate utter bullsh*t about PS4.
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rainslacker  +   148d ago
@Gaffy

Just an FYI. Sony is already releasing a blu-ray remote on 1/31/14. I'd imagine it will work for all the streaming apps like the PS3 remote did.

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4...
badz149  +   148d ago
yeah...it's just Polygon being Polygon!

UNPROFESSIONAL AND STUPID! so...what's new?
pixelsword  +   148d ago
My blog doesn't sound so stupid now, eh? Find the liars, find the lies...

This is just the continuation of what's been going on in one form or another by professionals and fanboys alike.

@DragonKnight:

What did HHG plagiarize? I'll need proof on that one. If I'm not mistaken, a LOT of sites were ripping off Tor Davis, and none of them were banned, and Tor Davis could tell you that himself.
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FamilyGuy  +   148d ago
Polygon has been down voted to hell on here yet the mods allow it to still have its articles and reviews posted because they think of it as a big enough site to be above the democratic voting system.
It annoys me because they are BLATANTLY in MSs pocket, they show more bias then some Xbox-focused site. All they're doing is weighing the game journalist industry down.
minimur12  +   148d ago
To be honest I didn't know until this video showed up, it's kindof a 'backdoor' way into controlling the PS4 with a remote, so I believe them saying that it doesn't support remote control [NATIVELY]

Also, can you controll blue ray/dvd playback with the remote? (pause/start/ff/rw)
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kerrak  +   148d ago
Not sure which one is better Lolygon or Poliesgon
NoLongerHereCBA  +   147d ago
Why some people here get so many likes is beyond me.

@ vulcanproject. I'm not a racing fan; but comparing Forza Motorsport 5 to Killzone Shadowfall is really strange. Furthermore saying that FM5 didn't improve in anything besides the graphics just shows how biased and unrealistic you are as well as other people here.

I'm not saying that KZSF is a bad game, because I would love to play it if I had a PS4 even if it was just for the graphics alone and to see what some of my friends have been working on.

But FM5 is using the cloud (yes I dare say it) for things like AI, which is completely new. Whereas I read that the AI in KZSF is sometimes really dull. I would still rather play KZSF than FM5 though, since I prefer FPS games over driving games even if it received a lower score.

But as I said; it's difficult to compare them, since KZSF is being negatively graded due to the story etc, which is non-existent in this racing game.

Just enjoy the games you play and don't put so much faith in online reviews. If you want a game buy it and judge for yourself.
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vulcanproject  +   147d ago
VaizardNL

I hope you realise that polygon's marking system is blatantly flawed if they believe KZ is a 5 and Forza 5 is a 9, based on what they said in both review.

Forza 5 is a nice title, but its NOT, NOT a step change from Forza 4 by any means, and is marked lower by most sites because it lacks so much content it feels like half a game.

Secondly the one thing you pick out as new, the cloud AI, has come under fire by multiple reviews.

Many reviewers felt it actually detracts from the game, because the AI they were racing were racing like idiots. They were racing like you would online, over aggressive and making lots of stupid mistakes causing silly accidents.

If Turn 10 intended to create the hallmarks of poor online racing for offline races, then they did it and the AI is irritating. Irritating or dumb, take it as you will.

There is no way Polygon justified Forza 5 getting a 9 in their review if you read back the Shadow fall one, and concentrate on their criticisms
pyramidshead  +   148d ago
Shill site gotta shill.

To be fair, it can be narrowed down to just Gies. But that whole live stream there was some serious FUD spreading without any shame.
iDadio  +   148d ago
Some will sadly believe the FUD to, their opinion should hold no weight to anyone personally and they should be taken off meta
EXVirtual  +   148d ago | Well said
Polygon got 750k from MS. They'll lie about anything.
They give crappy scores to games on Playstation as well. Even though the PS4's CODG stutter issue was because the PS4 was exceeding 60fps, Polygon won't make an update to their review.
A lot of gaming journalists do what they do because they get money. Why do you think IGN gives COD 9's (8.8 for COD Ghosts) every year?

@-Foxtrot, fair enough.
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-Foxtrot  +   148d ago | Interesting
True

But they only do it when a Sony game threaterns a game which is made by MS coming out in the same month

Take State of Decay and The Last of Us...they both came out the same month

However

Beyond Two Souls got a solid 8...but nothing from MS was coming out in October.

It only happens when it NEEDS to happen as I've noticed.
N2NOther  +   148d ago
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they gave that score because they liked it. I would give every COD outside of Ghosts anywhere between a 9 (Black Ops, WAW, COD 3, MW3) and 10 (Call of Duty 4, MW2, COD 2, Black Ops 2) and I don't get paid to do so. Weird, huh?
NoLongerHereCBA  +   147d ago
A stutter that seems like a framedrop is still a stutter. Doesn't matter whether it is due to more FPS or less. If it makes a game less playable, it should be counted as such.

Not updating the review depends on whether the patch came before the release of the console and game or after. Games rarely to never get updated depending on patches after release. Don't expect people to alter reviews simply because it makes you feel better.

If the patch came pre-release, then I would expect them to update it. But I don't know if that was/is the case.
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BABY-JEDI  +   148d ago
I'm actually seeing Polygon as being intentionally more critical towards Sony while showing adverts for the XB1. As for KZ review. The reviewer had already went on the record as not liking the series. This is clearly not impartial & unprofessional.
CryofSilence  +   148d ago
No one takes them seriously anyway. Even fanboys should be cautious about what they say because they will deceive you too.
Veneno  +   148d ago
You're wrong about that. They are on Metacritic and they have a large community that listens to what they say. People do take them seriously. and that's why this is a problem.
CryofSilence  +   148d ago
Correct. Addendum: No one should take them seriously.
Sevir  +   148d ago
They got a a start up fund from MS, so they pander to them more, the guys over there aren't a great bunch of journalists! In fact calling them journalists is false, they are just writers who biasly troll the industry we love and support, I'm glad Shu ripped one of the editors there a new one with the troll review of "The Last Of Us" they personally shouldn't be able to score interviews abd such since most of their stuff is either false or blatantly biased.
OlgerO  +   148d ago
Why does polygon still have credibility at all ( metacritic for example ) they have proven to be a biased unprofessional site.
AgitatedOcelot  +   148d ago | Well said
Calling another member of the media who is also a former IGN editor, a "creep" and blocking him on twitter for calling you out for false information is about as unprofessional as it gets.

Like parent company needs to start firing level unprofessional.
shammgod  +   148d ago
Great quote to complete your thoughts...bubble to you!

"Never cared for Polygon anyway.......Now i will actively avoid them".
MikeGdaGod  +   148d ago
not only that....but you can use the PS app on your phone or tablet to fully control the PS4
pivotplease  +   148d ago
I always preferred ps3 netflix to 360 and pc netflix, so I'm not sure where these multimedia arguments spring from. PS3 and PSP ended up having ridiculous media capabilities after a few updates, and I expect PS4 to go in the same direction.
kneon  +   148d ago
And that might be why PS3 is the top platform for NetFlix.
pivotplease  +   148d ago
Is it? I think that makes sense considering all the people I know who run netflix on their ps3. Anyone notice the new update of the user interface? I'm wishing there was a way to change the settings because the picture in the top half makes it so you can only see half the selection you previously could.
badboy776  +   148d ago | Well said
Ban Polygon from N4G!!!
skyrocket   148d ago | Spam
nosferatuzodd  +   148d ago
lol what else is new
MightyNoX  +   148d ago | Well said
Microsoft can't win in a head-to-head battle, so they resort to misinformation, belittling customers, bullying reviewers and throwing money to make people insult Sony.

I feel sick to my stomach...
WorldGamer  +   148d ago
You should throw it up man. But nothing washes that sour taste from your mouth. It is very sad and disgusting. Well said sir.
Septic  +   148d ago
"I feel sick to my stomach..."

Really? -__-

#firstworldproblems
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ElementsUnknown  +   148d ago
The problem is that someone can only be called a "liar" if they actively knew what they were saying was untrue. If not then they are just ignorant or uninformed. In the twitter exchange it appears that Chris Grant either holds a different definition of "working with a remote" or isn't as informed as the article writer. Either of those scenarios don't make Chris Grant a malicious "liar."

Perhaps if the article writer had pointed out the error and tried to educate Grant instead of attacking his character things made have gone better.

Whatever your console/news outlet allegiance accusing someone of willful and knowing deceit is a serious charge and shouldn't just be thrown around before they have a chance to explain themselves.
Prime157  +   148d ago
Very well said, sir.

It is utterly annoying dealing with dealing with uneducated or missed information, but as soon as you cross the line and imply they were purposefully withholding it, then you have created a similar sh## storm.
moparful99  +   147d ago
Whether he willfully lied or was uninformed is of little concern these guys pander themselves off as journalists yet they spread misinformation. Any good journalist will provide clear, concise, and factually relevant information. There's no ambiguity allowed when integrity is important and Polygon is losing more credibility ewith each passing day.
devwan  +   148d ago
Polygon staff's only preference is increasing the girth of their wallets...

Shame. On. Them.
Jilokle  +   148d ago
Phoneygon...one of misterFAKEmedia favorite gaming websites. Nuff said.
CapraDemon  +   148d ago
bouycot in progress
Tapewurm  +   148d ago
Polygon needs a Polygraph 8)
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   148d ago
ROFL polygon
adorie  +   148d ago
Polygon, huh... not even surprised. they've been blacklisted since the last of us review. mf'ers.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   148d ago
Well looks like Polygon is never to be trusted. I don't want my reliable sources to spread, lies and misconceptions about games and more importantly the system.

Chris Grant needs to step down from his position since he clearly can't do his job right.

Matter of fact what the hell is goin on this year? First Adam Orth's #DealWithIt and now Chris Grant's calling people creeps?

Gaming journalism is is becoming a joke and we as gamers fanboy or no fanboy need to take control of this.
mrpsychoticstalker  +   148d ago
Sony bots find anything against the Xbox one. I have both systems already. My ps4 works perfect on my xb1.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   148d ago
We don't have to "find" anything bad about it, it comes in a steady stream, have you not been paying attention this past year?
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hqgamez  +   148d ago
Honestly. Where in the world did this site even come from. I've been using n4g since 2011, but its not until this year I see news from polygon. They got a nice site, but they are trash bias fox news people to me.
Am_Ryder  +   147d ago
It's founded by a bunch of professionals from other sites- the founder of Kotaku Brian Crescente is one of them. So it IS a very new site indeed.

And I agree with your analysis- I love their site physically, it's really stylish and well thought out and intuitive and they do ingenious things with the layout. It's a very, very modern magazine format.

The problem is, all of the money and true talent they have seems to go into the design and web hosting area. The actual writing there is okay, and the reportage is okay, but the criticism is just... Disgustingly bad. So often off the mark and misinterpreting certain things. I try to veer away from saying sites are biased- but they definitely need to check their shit in this case!
kparks  +   148d ago
U guys just figured this out didn't they give TLOU a like 5 outta 10 or something stupid? There credibility has been garbage!
showtimefolks  +   148d ago
the way i look at it there are some gaming sites and some reviewers who i just don't trust

I know gametrailers is owned by the parent company that is owned by MS yet they are still very fair IMO

gamespot since the whole jeff firing/kane and lynch stuff has been spot on, they will point out very minor things in their reviews and are really strict but sometimes you need to find out everything and gamespot is the place

ign has few reviewers who i like on playstation team

but one thing i have noticed is how american gaming media gives MS a free pass but not to sony or nintendo, its funny and sad how MS gave up on core gamers for last 3-4 years but still got praised and some of their E3 conferences were graded higher than sony when sony showed games compared to dance central

angryjoe is also really fair
kenshiro100  +   148d ago
Its really disgusting to see how fanboyism gets in the way of being a true gamer these days. It's one thing to like a console, but to turn around and produce lies just to downplay the other is just pathetic.
Gamer1982  +   148d ago
That feature of controlling with remote was on PS3 I use my Panasonic TV remote to control my PS3.
Volkama  +   148d ago
Article is not really false. PS4 doesn't do voice controls for Netflix unless you buy an optional extra (the camera).

No, grandma wont be watching Netflix wearing that earbud it comes with.

The number of righteous fanboys reacting to this non-story is hilarious. Sadly I'm probably too late to achieve the 100+ disagrees other rational folk have been given.
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Murad  +   147d ago
I thought Polygon were supposed to be a company that wasn't biased since they started up as nobodies and then became a bigger journalist company. Pitiful, they had everything and now they're trying to lose it. O well, time to go back to Giantbomb, at least they tell me if they're bulls***ng me or not.
Kingthrash360  +   148d ago
dem guys are known fanboys though. this is why gaming media is down the toilet.
so few real sites out these days.
i miss gamepro
NarooN  +   148d ago
GamePro was awesome, dude! I still have around a hundred or more of their mags in my closet, lol.
Kingthrash360  +   148d ago
lol! man me too! ive recently gone back to look at how they reviewed back then...so far ahead of whats happening now.
kingPoS  +   148d ago
Gamepro & Electronic Gaming Monthly were the best! Maybe it's the age of information that makes some journalists complacent. Back then, you had to visit the game studios themselves to get detailed info on a game.

If you're a lazy journalist that doesn't do the actual footwork, the effort he or she put in will most assuredly show. (or not)

Gateway MT6706 2008
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kenshiro100  +   148d ago
Gamepro was amazing. I used to get books from them all the time.
STEWIE_PLAY_PS4  +   148d ago
It Polygon is Xbox fanboy I knew.... Check on YouTube Polygon channels has lot Xbox XD
Prodigy_X  +   148d ago
*SMH*
WeAreLegion  +   148d ago
Did these guys pay their way onto Metacritic or something?
HighResHero  +   148d ago
Don't worry, they will just pretend they aren't biased by giving Second Son a 9/10 or something.

Look out for the incoming, "Look PS4 isn't that bad and we totally kinda reluctantly dig it" article.
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Clunkyd  +   148d ago
I don't think that they're clever.
WeAreLegion  +   148d ago
I did a bit of research...and I might not be far off, actually. They were on Metacritic within a couple months of starting the website. NOBODY gets on Metacritic that fast. I'm going to investigate a bit more and write an article.
MysticStrummer  +   148d ago
We'll look forward to your findings. On behalf of all lazy yet inquisitive gamers, I applaud your initiative.
blackbeld  +   148d ago
@WeAreLegion.

Thats great, let us know when you know more. I also never heart of them since a couple of months ago.

They are Meta cheaters for sure.
Am_Ryder  +   147d ago
I do some freelance writing too- and I'd love to see what you come up with.

However, I'm pretty sure that Metacritic will take sites on board on a set of criteria, e.g. "are they an accredited site?"

Which Polygon will be- they obviously have the money to get professionally accredited and recorded as a private sector organisation.

"Do they have a high enough readership?"

Which they do- i'm pretty sure Polygon gets hundreds of thousands of views a day.

Etc. etc. I reckon Polygon are totally legit enough to get on Metacritic. Their quality is just so shit in comparison to most of the industry.
zpoc  +   147d ago
well, they're an offshoot of the verge, which was probably on metacritic before the bulk of their gaming news was moved to polygon. polygon also has a number of veteran game journalists which gives them some clout.

not trying to defend them, or anything - i find their game coverage pretty weak, in general.
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TemplarDante  +   148d ago
Glad Jeremys article is on here.
To those late to the party, Polygon is a MS Mouthpiece parading around as a legitamate multi console website. Do not trust anything they say, especially that nut job Arthur Gies.
Pintheshadows  +   148d ago
And this comes as a surprise to no one. Polygon is a bad site anyway. It isn't even in their bias, it is in the quality of their work. Poor previews, poor reviews, poor writing quality overall.
jackdaddy  +   148d ago
Did you see their review of The Last Of Us? Comical to say the least....
cyberninja  +   148d ago
Loligon strikes again!!!
MidnytRain  +   148d ago
Wait, is that a play on "laugh out loud" or "lolicon"?

...

lol...
Puppy_Farts  +   148d ago
So that guy is "weird" and "creepy" for calling Chris Grant out on a lie? That's some good deflection right there.... quite pathetic.
Kayant  +   148d ago
Well now looking at the thread over at gaf ---> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

At this post from the thread about comments made during the PS4 stream am not really surprised -->

"Vita UI is ugly.
PS4 is a game console with no games.
Games resolution matters to very few.
Sony didn't included the camera to undercut MS because its what Sony does.
UI and OS is not good.
Navigation on vita sucks.
Remote play is only for the Japanese market.
Remote play is pretty useless... Remote Play would definitely be cooler on Xbox because tv.
Microsoft is the only one producing new IP's."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
lifeisgamesok   148d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(4)
OrangePowerz  +   148d ago
They really said that? Jesus they are not biased at all.

By mistake disagreed.
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Mr-Dude  +   148d ago
And this is their X1 recap

Xbone is awesome.
Look at this UI. Beautiful.
Such speed.
The Frame Rate and Resolution in these games is just right for what our human eyes can see.
Great new IPs like Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Killer Instinct reboot, Panzer Dragoon spiritral successor, Zoo Tycoon and of course Kinect sports
The TV stuff is so great
Who needs streaming right now? We can watch streams, that's enough!
NarooN  +   148d ago
Dude this quote from Crecente takes the fucking cake:

"I had more problems than most people, probably because of my room or whatever, but it does work really well."

So to recap, he had constant problems with it, but it works perfectly.

Yeah, they're definitely not MS shills, there's no way. /s lmao.
Mr-Dude  +   148d ago
Yeah, I saw that one... I was like WOW and thought in that guys thoughts

"How far do you want me to bend over MS? A little further? Okay..."
fooltheman  +   148d ago
More lies from them....
Lionalliance  +   148d ago
What's with Polygon hate towards anything Sony?
Lukas_Japonicus  +   148d ago
Money from the hand of MS, what else?

Industry pro's for you, ladies and gents! These are the people who are supposed to be completely UNbiased as many people rely on them for news, reviews , info etc.

Corrupt, biased, paid off.....just like the real news!
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ziggurcat  +   148d ago
they are/were funded by MS.
ZodTheRipper  +   148d ago
$$$
Must be hard working there and not being allowed to having an opinion.
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sashimi  +   148d ago
Maybe they are Reputation Management for MS lol
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HugoDrax  +   148d ago
What's with Polygon hate towards Sony?

What's with N4G hate towards Microsoft?

Everyone hates everyone!
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Pintheshadows  +   148d ago
I hate MS, not because of their games consoles which aren't bad, but because of everything about Windows 8.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   148d ago
I hate MS, but love their games (103k gamerscore).

What a dilemma.....I hate to hand over money to MS, but i love games way too damn much to miss out.
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Majin-vegeta  +   148d ago
I hate M$ cuz where ever they decide to stick their nose in they try to ruin it.
Hicken  +   148d ago
I hate MS because they're not a consumer-friendly company. And because they infiltrated gaming and have somehow convinced millions that they ARE consumer-friendly, even when pushing anti-consumer agendas.
razrye  +   148d ago
I hate ms because they copy other people's ideas, re brand them, over hype them and use words like'dynamic'.
devwan  +   148d ago
I hate Microsoft because.
MRMagoo123  +   148d ago
N4G is supposed to be an unbiased review site, its a forum site where people are supposed to give their opinions on articles, we arent meant to be professional, i dont see how ppl not liking MS on this site has anything to do with polygon and their obvious lying about the ps4.
Baka-akaB  +   147d ago
While i can have positive opinions on some games and studios , or even features ... i have no reason to like Microsoft .

Why would i ? I've seen the same antics and worse , sometimes monopolistic and anti competition in nature , since their pc days in the late 80-90s .

What confuses , amuses and amazes me even since the late 00s , is how they managed to get cheerleaders and people defending or even loving them , on the account of their of their most sneaky or pernicious actions , actually being positive , or isolated "incidents" rather than their usual and traditional business politics .

And they have the Xbox to thank for that , it made them reborn virgins in the eye of many , despite everything . Wich shows how good they indeed are ... or how clueless some are
Riderz1337  +   148d ago
Microsoft gave them $750K lol
mshh4  +   148d ago
I am really don't know how people's give a care to this site it's a bullshit comes from a crap
FanOfRootBeer  +   147d ago
That was a sentence and a half, mate.
MaverickStar7  +   148d ago
It's either they are lying, or don't know what they are talking about. Neither would surprise me.
Pintheshadows  +   148d ago
Par for the course for the gaming media. I have seen so much misinformation in the last few months that it has me stunned.

How some of these people can call themselves gamers, let alone 'gaming journalists' is beyond me.
MaverickStar7  +   148d ago
Agreed. I was just in a discussion yesterday about this. In my mind I try to separate their gaming opinions from their journalistic ability. I treat all the journalists reviews and opinions like any others. Just one persons thoughts. But I do expect professional journalists to provide informative and well done articles or videos. And to provide accurate information. This was not that at all.

Its the internet age we live in, and I don't see it getting any better.
GryestOfBluSkies  +   148d ago
polygon has no credibility
ar00043  +   148d ago
new low...
just-joe  +   148d ago
Well I guess this calls for
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
crazysammy  +   148d ago
You win!
BattleTorn  +   148d ago
Did the menu not click to the left one too many times @0:35???
Call_Of_Doggy  +   148d ago
Polygon ....
Grrrrr Grrrrr
Grrrrrrr
lifeisgamesok  +   148d ago
This article is Reaching badly

Remote control usage

I bet he thought he was right about that one feature

I don't know every feature of each console but I know which kind of games I want to buy
Ghosts  +   148d ago
This website polygon is a joke!1 i vote for banned n n4g!!
Software_Lover  +   148d ago
so "any remote" vs "specific remotes" should have been used vs you just cant use any remote with the ps4.
Pillsbury1  +   148d ago
You should see how Adam sessler praises forza 5, he gave it a 5 out of 5. If I ever suspected Adam of being biased, his review of that game clinched it.
Snookies12  +   148d ago | Funny
Yeah, let's just forget glaring issues like fans not appearing in the stands when looking in the mirror. (They must all be vampires lol)
BlindMango  +   148d ago
Why was he calling him a "creep"? He doesn't know anything about CEC so he calls the guy a creep for trying to teach him about it?
iamnsuperman  +   148d ago
That is what annoys me most about this story. All he had to do was apologies or clear up the misunderstanding. Not to call a guy (who is right) a creep and block him. These journalist really need to become more professional
BlindMango  +   148d ago
I actually tried my remote by simply pressing the arrow buttons and it works perfectly! I never had the idea to try that out actually, lol - I just turned CEC on for the PlayStation turning on when I turn the TV on and things like that
cyclindk  +   148d ago
Ha, and if true, tell him his MOM will need a Gold membership to get access to that Netflix...

Microsoft does a feeeeew things right, but then they still shaft people with no lithium ion, paywalls for services freely usable elsewhere and propriety limitations (mic).

And is it true you can't upgrade the HDD? Only go through external?
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boeso  +   148d ago
Awkwaaaard.

*receives money bag*

Awkwardness redeemed!
Dasteru  +   148d ago
Blocking someone and calling them a creep just for calling him out on a blatant lie... talk about massively douchy. The entire gaming community on twitter should block Polygon.
leemo19  +   148d ago
Not surprise, credibility at polygon has been at a all-time low since the TLOU review.
solidboss07  +   148d ago
If I want to watch anything disc based or stored on HDD on my PS3 then I can just use my T.V remote. No Dual shock controller needs to embarrass my living room with its presence. Grand Ma could do the same.

Do the next gen consoles not allow this?

(You know? Through the HDMI, on Samsung Television sets its called AnyNet, ect.
I think GrandMa would rather use a remote, than get institutionalised because she was 'talking to herself'?).
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jocelot  +   148d ago
is this guy from polygon a journalist? by his attitude and the way he doesn't accept any criticism when he is wrong, i guess he isn't.. well, maybe he really is a journalist, but he was playing too many video games during class time...
WorldGamer  +   148d ago
Wow. The saddest part is how me blocked the guy for pointing out a fact. These days you are considered a creep for bringing up a legitimate point of contention?

Reasonable debate about the merits of one product over another has died off, kudos to this guy for calling out these clowns at Polygon on their BS.
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