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Can you build a gaming PC better than the PS4 for $400?

As you probably know by now, the PS4 is essentially a $400 PC. It has an x86 PC CPU, a standard PC GPU, and the same kind of RAM that you’d find on a PC graphics card. There are a few custom chips on the PS4′s motherboard, but for the most part it’s just a normal PC with some custom software. This led me to wonder… could you actually build a comparable PC for $400? More importantly, given how Sony has crippled the PS4′s home theatre functionality, is it possible to build a PC for $400 that is actually better for games and as a living room media box?

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zeal0us1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

Nope. It would a huge waste of time building this $400 machine. Not to mention this thing would still lack features exclusively for the PS4 and the PS4 exclusives themselves.

Just enjoy your platform of choice and stop battling other platforms.

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dedicatedtogamers1729d ago

Nope. 8 GBs of the PS4's RAM would cost at least $150 off the shelf. The processor, another $150, the mobo, another 100, $50 for the hard drive, $50 for the case...$50 for wires and a cheap power supply.

And even then, you'd still be left with a very mediocre PC.

ChrisW1729d ago

If you are talking about regular PC RAM, 16Gbs of DDR3-2133 (the fastest DDR3 available) will cost you about $150. However, that is quite different from GDDR5, which PS4 uses.

Dehnus1729d ago

70 bucks for 16gigs of DDR3-2100mhz. But that might just be us Europeans, we shop smarter, not harder/hoarder ;).

Reverent1729d ago

It doesn't matter anyways because you can't just buy GDDR5 RAM. So that alone is why this setup doesn't work. But that's just one reason. The comment section of this article does a great job at pretty much dismantling everything the article says. PC elitists might be a dickish bunch, but they know their ways around technology.

neoandrew1729d ago

Reverent
"you can't just buy GDDR5 RAM"

Doesn't matter, you just buy a gpu with 2gb gddr5.

theEx1Le1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

You pay 150 for a 8 core 1.6ghz processor then your an idiot

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ATiElite1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

The Glorious PC Gaming Master Race!

"Can you build a gaming PC better than the PS4 for $400?"

NOPE! but....for $530 I can build a Gaming PC that will outperform a PS4!

Does a $530 Gaming PC have PS4 Exclusives? NO

Does a PS4 have the ability to burn a DVD, Encode video, rip music from any source, Do your taxes, run a business, write a term paper, and Play PC Exclusives? NO

So it all depends on what you wanna do!

Comparing a PS4 to a PC is silly but some people just LOVE it and totally forget that a PC does more than JUST PLAY games as a way to make a Gaming Toy have more value than a Multi-tasking Tool.

I need my PC's for other things more important than Gaming.

zeal0us1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

Glorious God Gamers are 1,000,000,000,000 better than your master race.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photo...

All jokes aside I'm with you. I definitely need my PC for other things more important than gaming.
I got two projects I need to finish making and not to mention a term paper I need to type. A few more weeks left and I will have my AAS in CIT.

karl1729d ago

who doesnt have a pc on its house .. its 2013..

that pc already does all that

we are talking about a gaming pc... yeah sure i will probably get rid of my old pc when building one

but my mediocre pc already does all those thing soo i can just keep playing my ps4.

tubers1729d ago

@zeal0us

lol I actually asked about that in SW gamespot.

Apparently there is a "God Race", the race to have and rule them all.

Also, it's pretty niche but multi monitor is crack so much real estate for just about anything.

itisallaboutps1729d ago

Dont get me wrong I also have a gaming pc. But really? Anyone has a cheap laptop that will do those things except for gaming. You bragged about them as if only a high end pc could do those simple task and I love the social experience my ps4 gives me. I can cross gamechat with friends while playing fifa and switch between games in 10 seconds. Pc can't beat the ps4 and xbox experience. The pc does however have mods which I love and cheap downloads. But for 400 bucks you can't get close to a ps4 atleast not until a few years

Somebody1729d ago

I'm bracing for the "PC is Dead" articles to re-surface. I expect them to pop out in number next year as both next gen consoles receive more games but SteamOS might make things interesting.

aquamala1728d ago

Comparison is silly because on one platform you have to pay $50 a year to play online, factor that in (8 years?) and PC gaming is not more expensive

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gamesR4fun1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

ya its not even close to the beastly ps4 as quoted from the article.

"From the get-go, we have a problem: The APU in the PS4 is unique. It pairs an 8-core Jaguar CPU with, essentially, the Radeon HD 7850. The best AMD APU currently on the market (the Richland A10-6800K) has about one third of the processing power of the PS4′s GPU. There are no 8-core Jaguar parts on the market — only the quad-core Kabini A6-5200, which is paired with an even weaker GPU than the A10. Kaveri, when it comes to market in January 2014, will be a closer match — but the PS4 will still have around twice the graphics grunt. In short, we’re forced to use a CPU and discrete GPU. It just got a lot harder to hit our $400 target.

The other big problem is the 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which has an utterly insane peak bandwidth of 176 gigabytes per second. There is no way to build a PC with such a configuration. In the PS4, the RAM is used by both the CPU and GPU in a HSA 2.0 configuration, providing a sizable speed boost – an option that isn’t available to the PC world until Kaveri launches. It’s important to note that even if we could slot some GDDR5 RAM into a PC motherboard, it would probably be much more expensive than conventional DDR3."

ATiElite1729d ago

1. Sorry bro the AMD 8 core jaguar is already outdated as AMD announced Jaguars replacement.

2. The ONLY reason the PS4's Jaguar is 8 cores is to help future proof it but most importantly the PSu maxes at 250 watts so therefore it's CPU's are low watt like Laptops and running at 2ghz

3. You do not want to even compare a 8 core AMD versus a Core i7 with Hyper threading because what you will see is a FRIGGIN MASSACRE. Intel is TOO DOMINATE!

but here it is any way and this is NOT even Intels Best CPU. after viewing link you can change CPU's.

I used a 8 core AMD vs. a 4 Core i7 3770

http://www.anandtech.com/be...

PS4 still has plenty of CPU power for now and in the future as games are using more GPU power.

The GPU is handling Rendering and even physics.

jebabcock1728d ago

This would be valid if the ps4 ran on Windows 8... Last I checked it didn't... is Windows even optimized for 8 cores? There are alot of factors that you leave out of your argument...

gamesR4fun1728d ago

sure you can pump more gigawats with a high end pc but the games will always lag to keep up
like the uber computer guy said their only a few games that can use it and those are just upscaled versions of the same game
gta5 will own on the pc but console owners get ta play it now... see what I mean

meh its usless talkin sense to a fanboy and for the record its in no way ironic I'm replying to myself.

MRMagoo1231729d ago

Its very not possible lol have you seen that junk, plus the pc would last a month before it died from those parts , they didnt have an OS either.

ZBlacktt1729d ago

I lol'd at this ghetto attempt.

LonChaneyTV1729d ago

I say in a year or so you can be 3x the power of consoles for cheap.

PCs are not cheap upfront, but you can save lots of money going with digital services.

LonChaneyTV1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

"Can you build a gaming PC better than the PS4 for $400?"

Add $600 to that and that's how much 10 new games will cost you. PC gaming also has the advantage of backwards compatibility, even after i upgrade my steam games will load up and i don't have to repurchase my games.

consoles are good for Exclusives but other than that PCs have the upper hand. In 2 years time you build a strong PC for cheap.

AD7051729d ago

Not to mention pc has a slew of exclusives as well and usually the better multiplats and better online.

Besides exclusives for the most part are just overhyped crap that gets played once and never again.

tubers1729d ago

PC doesn't have paywalled services from PS+ and XBL

LOL Cloud saves and paying for some apps and paying "again" for internet.

I'm more lenient to PS+ since the multi-platform (PS3/PSV/PS4) freaking meaty enough for me.

jebabcock1728d ago

I think a more reasonable comparison performance wise would be with a ps3 for under 400.

ZBlacktt1729d ago

The PS4 is $340 btw.... The Dual Shock 4 is $60. Hence the $399 price tag.

PSX041729d ago

no we can't build gaming PC for 400$

CERN1729d ago

They forgot to include operating system, blu ray player, game pad, and even then the performance won't be the same as the operating system has to share the CPU, GPU and RAM. Where as the PS4 is a closed system, games are only going to look better down the line. Compare first generation ps3 games like cod to games like battlefield 4, the last of us, god of war ext. and then you have the exclusives and so on, in the end your spending $550+. Waste of money I say. Ether buy a ps4 and get better value or build a better pc.

sigfredod1729d ago

This article failed big, bussines rule: never assume that a customer already have something, he didn't include the value of the cables, power, hdmi, micro usb, you should have a controller somewhere? maybe but if not? and if i have it will not have sixaxis function or a touchpad, all that have value, no optical drive? the ps4 have a very fast BD and that have a value, big fail, and where is the secondary processor with the 2 Gb? really crappy article

deecee331729d ago

The article is correct that you can build a roughly PS4 equivalent machine, but it'll cost slightly more, like $500-600. I built one when my PS3 went up in smoke, so I'm not just guessing. The hardware in my machine could probably be gotten for even less than $500 now because my machine is a year old which is ages in the PC space.

Also, the GDDR not being available isn't an issue. I have a GPU with 2GB GDDR5 and it runs every current game on ultra at 60fps, which is higher detail than the console versions of BF4 are pushing (If I recall, DICE said the next-gen consoles run BF4 on the equivalent of "medium" settings on the PC). It always amuses me how every console generation it's implied that consoles will outperform a same-spec PC, but somehow tons of corners are cut to make console games run flawlessly on the hardware- BF4 at 900p/720p on lesser detail, several other games just barely clearing the bar for framerate performance at true HD resolution, etc. They need to stop kidding people about all that.

People here are correct about one thing- you buy a console for exclusives and to play with your friends, so the comparison isn't really worth all the chest-puffing. In a year I'll have a PS4 just like most of you, and so will my friends. So, does it matter what you're playing on? Nope.

TAURUS-5551729d ago

PC games cant compare to the PS4, all the fun and everything runs smoothly.

try to play any FIFA game on a PC...its a nightmare.

solidt121729d ago

PC = No Uncharted, No Infamous, No The Last of Us, No Playstation Exclusives period.

webeblazing1729d ago

don't pc have exclusives? y do yall say this everytime

awi59511729d ago

The cpu is a fail spend 100 bucks and get a quad core.

Sony3601729d ago

It wasn't about running the same games, and the PC has plenty of its own exclusives as well.

You couldn't put one together from scratch, but you could upgrade a current rig to be better than a Ps4 for that much money.

kingduqc1728d ago

I think console gamer miss the part where for every exclusive there is on a console there is literally 15 others on pc. PC's library is around 21k games. Ps2 did around 2000 and ps3 still didn't break 1000 games.

To me it's about getting the best experience you can, not about money you spend on hardware, That's why I game on pc. I think you guys also underestimate how much you actually save on games, you gould get a 1500$ pc today and in 7 year you'd save more money then getting the ps4 and the same games + online. But you got a better experience and more options.

tawak1728d ago

its doesnt even have cd drive , let alone a blu ray drive + moouse and keyboard + OS , thats like another $100 to $200

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Yep1729d ago

Sigh... This article is asking for trouble.

No, you cannot build a PC for a cheaper price than the PS4 for several key reasons.

1. Free Online + Best Online Structure (PS4 would cost more if you didn't have to pay a subscription fee for PSN)

2. The PS4, while it's games look fine, cannot run current gen games like Crysis 3 on ultra settings and will probably never be able to run a game as well as PC.

3. PC isn't only a media and games device, but that's a whole topic for itself.

4. PS4 can never be portable.

I might as well stop here. Look, PS4 is a technically decent console, but lets not tick off the master race.

zeal0us1729d ago

You can build a PC for cheaper price than the PS4. It just the PC will be utter crap.

Yep1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

What's hilarious is that you just called your beloved PS4 hardware utter crap.

They don't even sell parts as old as the PS4 hardware anymore so no, you can't build a reasonably priced $400 PC. You'd have to ask for the parts to be specifically manufactured.

zeal0us1729d ago

@Ace

Where did I state the PS4 hardware was crap? I was saying the PC you build for under $400 would be utter crap not the PS4.

2pacalypsenow1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

@Acesonnall console games are much more optimized than PC games thats why you can have great looking games with 2013 standards on 2005 technology you can do that on PC

And your right cuz those parts are made exclusively for Ps4

2k14 on Ps4 has better lifelike graphics than any Pc game without Modding i have ever seen

awi59511729d ago

NO the pc wouldnt be crap if you spend 120 dollars on a cpu that computer would be fine. And newegg has inflated prices and they charge you sales tax thats why i avoid them.

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Holeran1729d ago

". The PS4, while it's games look fine, cannot run current gen games like Crysis 3 on ultra settings and will probably never be able to run a game as well as PC."

How would Crysis 3 on ultra settings play like on a $399 custom built computer?

Ravenor1729d ago

Poorly, and that's the thing most people forget when this topic comes up.

Also Crysis 3 built from the ground up for a PS4 or Xbox One would definitely look comparable to Crysis 3 on the PC version. He's clearly delusional or has his head up his backside...maybe both.

Mac4201729d ago

The Vita an Gaikia will be changing that very soon. US would probably be the last place to ever get a feature like that tho. Average internet speed is horrible an free wifi is a joke in this country..

wsoutlaw871729d ago

"The U.S. now has the ninth-fastest average Internet connection speed in the world, behind South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Latvia, the Czech Republic and Sweden." http://www.huffingtonpost.c...
US definitely isnt the fastest but wouldnt be last at all.

mabreu1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

Funny how the "master race" talks about hardware specs, modding, and free online but cry when GTA V doesn't come to there beloved PC until months later, or never.

No matter how you spin it, Crysis 3 is an "OK" game at best, even if you can run it at ultra settings at 4K resolution and 2 billion frames per second.

You may be the "master race" but your vastly becoming extinct by the popular markets of console's and tablets. You need proof, here you go: http://news.bigdownload.com...

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jay21729d ago

My PC cost about £1600 UK money more than PS4, it can do everything and does very well and the Dual shock 4 works on it.......But I don't have the first party games for it.

JasonKCK1729d ago (Edited 1729d ago )

I'm a PC gamer, I build my own rigs, but I can say "no" you can't build a PC better than a PS4 or X1 for $400. I would say $600 is more realistic for a PC. In about 3 years, but not now. The card alone is half that cost.

2pacalypsenow1729d ago

lol a celeron CPU?? questios is how will games play on that 2005 PC