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Submitted by fathoms 236d ago | opinion piece

Xboxers Bashing PS4 For Reliability Issues Is Comically Ironic

It appears that a great many Xbox followers are getting a big kick out of the issues facing the PlayStation 4. All those followers must have amnesia. (Culture, PS4)

allformats  +   236d ago
Red Red of Death you have to say to an Xbox fanboy and they'll HOPEFULLY shut up.

Selective memory much.
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aceitman  +   236d ago
well the article is right , for them to do that and there system isn't even out yet , well we will see how ms x1 will hold out, and truly see if it was rushed out like the 360.
allformats  +   236d ago
The xbox fanboys can only gripe when the PS4 has over a 30% failure rate.
JokesOnYou  +   236d ago
Uhm yeah because a few idiots are laughing it's all "Xboxers"? No, and I read the rest with him pulling numbers out of is a**. Still expecting that there won't be a segment of xbox fan boys "laughing" at the hardware failure situation for sony whether it's a small % or a huge issue is unrealistic given all the back and forth nonsense.
shoddy  +   236d ago
If 0.5% failure rate is bad the how can a system survive a 33% rate
Tito08  +   235d ago
@JokesOnYou- You're such an example of a XBoxer, let's not get this out of the way, what the guy said it's entirely true, and that was a very known issue for a very long time, and MS knew the issue and released the console at the cost of the consumer. Why did you think it had a 3 year warranty? it wasn't because MS is "awesome", it's because they knew the problem existed and was very noticing, also, those disc ring scratches, noticeably unheard of. So please, don't be such a hypocrite, it's not of your convenience.

Every game console has it's share of issues, but both Sony and Nintendo have a track record of good reliable products, so I take these PS4 hardware issues with a grain of salt until they become more noticeable. It's very evident the media and fanboys like you wants to make it seem like that's Sony's version of the RROD when you dumbheads earned that reputation MS already earned a reputation of faulty products and say "Sony did this too as well" just to justify MS`s actions, I remember well y'all made a big deal out of the PS3`s yellow light when it reality it was about the normal rate of console failures. XBox One isn't out yet, but it has to deal with a reputation issued all thanks to their second game console. So, if I point an example of someone pointing information out of his ass, that's you.
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NateCole  +   236d ago
They are just desprate for anything even though they know it is not as widespread as they claim.

If it was anything like RROD it will be all over the news.
JokesOnYou  +   236d ago
Damm meant to reply above, anyway nobody is desperate, the reality is that there are just morons on both sides. Also console failures on Microsofts part don't justify a higher failure rate than normal on sonys part *IF that turns out to be the case.
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Derekvinyard13  +   236d ago
But didn't Microsoft eventually start fixing xbox for free cause it was a huge problem? I never had an xbox
Hicken  +   236d ago
After about a year and a half, yes. Though you were still outta luck if your system died before then.
edgeofsins  +   236d ago
Because it was court-ordered otherwise they would have to recall all XBox 360's and take it off the market. They aren't a good company for consumers.
JasonKCK  +   236d ago
No Hicken MS starting fixing 360's just a few months after release when the problem came to light for free, not a "year and a half" you're reaching.

You see that is what makes you part of the problem, and you're just as guilty as they are.
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Jdoki  +   236d ago
@JasonKCK

That was not my experience or recollection of the situation at all.

It took an extremely long time for MS to react and acknowledge the RRoD problem.

The 360 launched in Nov 2005. The extended warranty kicked in around July / Aug 2007.

That meant a lot of people whose consoles failed between Nov 2006 and the start of the extended warranty (nearly 8 months) got boned as MS was still denying the extent of the problem.

That was the situation I had. A RRoD failure after warranty ended, and MS refused to repair it for free, or reimburse me after the extended warranty went live.
MasterCornholio  +   236d ago
And I remember somewhere where they said that the failures were due to a design fault by Microsoft. Dang its been so long since the RROD issue.

Nexus 7 2013
HolyDuck  +   236d ago
As is mocking the Xbox One for its size.
sobotz  +   236d ago
and a Power Brick.. oooh such irony
MasterCornholio  +   236d ago
The Xbox 360 wasn't mocked for its size but it had a huge powerbrick and it still suffered problems from overheating.

Nexus 7 2013
Raccoon  +   236d ago
extra batteries anyone?
Revolt13  +   236d ago
I don't recall ever bashing a Sony fan because of this...
nor have I ever had RRoD
awesomeisjayell  +   236d ago
I dare any PS4 owner to download warframe and surf the UI @ the same time lmao and see what happens lol.
PersonaCat  +   236d ago
I did that day one and my ps4 didn't crash or freeze. Did yours?
Majin-vegeta  +   236d ago
I did the first day.What's your point?
SpinalRemains138  +   236d ago
A million have done that. A million.

Record setting, 1080p playing, ass kicking, game playing beast!
jjb1981  +   236d ago
I have a ps4 and will be getting xbox on day one. Anyone remember RRoD? Yeah, I hope we get all these platform problems fixed. Xbox one will have its share also.
Belking  +   236d ago
"A handful of people have reported issues with their PlayStation 4
systems. This is within our expectations for a new product introduction,
and the vast majority of PS4 feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.
We are closely monitoring for additional reports, but we think these
are isolated incidents and are on track for a great launch."
-Sony 2013

"A handful of people have reported issues with their Xbox 360 consoles. Failure rates are within our expectations for a new product introduction... We are closely monitoring for additional reports, but reports show these are isolated incidents ."
-Microsoft, 2005
Hicken  +   236d ago
Odd... Most people remember Microsoft saying there was no problem at all. In fact, they adamantly denied there was any sort of issue for roughly 18 months, before finally admitting there was an issue and implementing the 3 year warranty.
Kryptix  +   236d ago
The guy is funny and blind...the second quote doesn't exist and it wasn't till July 2007 that Microsoft acknowledged the RROD and didn't do anything till 2008.

Here's the article posted Nov 2008 finally doing something about the RROD
http://venturebeat.com/2008...

I can imagine Belking spreading lies using 3 different computers eating mommy's fishsticks in the basement. Making up a quote to cover up Microsoft's past problems and slow reaction to it? That's really pathetic.

Edit: Apparently, linking evidence still gains you a disagree. I swear, N4G has certain people with an IQ equal to a peanut that don't believe in truth.
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SpinalRemains138  +   236d ago
You have proved that corporate PR jargin is similar across the board.

What you have failed to do, is to link the RROD to the PS4 in any way. Stop trying.

PS4 is superb.

Just deal
fathoms  +   236d ago
LOL

30% failure rate for three+ years for 360. Nobody actually believes the PS4 will post the same numbers, do they?

Microsoft can lie to their customers all they want. Nobody with a brain listens.
raptar   236d ago | Spam
fathoms  +   235d ago
The 30% failure rate comes from the OFFICIAL REPORTED DEFECTIVE RATES from the five biggest retailers in North America. That's where it comes from. It was verified several times over.

Microsoft would never acknowledge it because they LIE TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. Example: "We have no idea what's causing the RRoD." Three years later- "Oh, it's fixed now."

Yeah? Must've known what it was to fix it, right? And why wait three years? To artificially inflate the sales numbers so fools will continue to buy new consoles after the third, fourth, fifth Xbox 360s die.

Hence, MS's "official" statements have been proven to be bogus over and over again. I fail to see that from Sony.
raptar   234d ago | Spam
fathoms  +   234d ago
Everyone from GameSpot to Kotaku reported on the 30-35% failure rate of the Xbox 360 numerous times. Not my problem if you have selective memory. But if you need a refresher, here-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Personally, this is my favorite part:

"Microsoft has never officially released any information indicating the true cause of the problem."

Years and years of massive failure rates, reported by literally dozens of the biggest retailers around the world, whether you choose to believe them or not. And Microsoft never once - not ONCE - told the consumer why.

I worked at EB during the PS2 launch. I remember the disc scratching, caused by the system standing vertically. Sony immediately acknowledged that issue and the problem was fixed in a matter of MONTHS. The PS2 ended up having one of the highest reliability ratings in history.

The Xbox 360 not only has the lowest, it has the lowest reliability rating by a huge margin. You can dance around this all you want. You can try and turn it back on Sony all day long. At the end of the day, Sony - indeed, NO game console manufacturer - has ever produced a LESS reliable system than the Xbox 360. It was also named one of Consumer Reports' worst products multiple times. That has never happened to any PlayStation.

Nobody ever said that what Sony is reporting is 100% accurate, and nobody said that what the PS4 is experiencing isn't significant (at this point, nobody really knows). All of that is irrelevant.

None of it changes the FACT that the 360 was a fu***** mess. And it doesn't change the FACT that Microsoft covered up the reason for the RRoD for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of selling more consoles. I call that lying. I call it deceiving the public. I call it corporate BS at its finest. And I'm hardly the only one.

I'm done with this. You can embarrass yourself further if you wish.
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raptar   234d ago | Spam
fathoms  +   233d ago
LOL

So that's it? I give you a giant sheet of facts and you ignore it because you think I "hate" Microsoft? You asked for links; I gave you dozens via the Wiki page. The fact that there's a Wiki page for the RRoD is funny (and conclusive) in and of itself.

The 360 user base? Really? Gee, I know a lot of gamers and I can't think of a single one who didn't go through at least THREE. Now, I don't like mentioning that because by the standard rules of debate, anecdotal evidence doesn't really apply. Personal experience is not indicative of an entire populace of consumers.

But I guess I'll use it now, because apparently, that's all you've got. The user base just "knows," huh? Let me explain something to you, kid-

You're the only one with a massive, obvious bias. I've been playing since the Atari, I've owned most every system in existence, and that includes both Xbox consoles to date. I harp on Sony for a variety of legitimate reasons. One of them is not reliability because I have very little evidence to support any bashing. You don't have any, either, besides your own personal claims about what Sony said, when problems were fixed, etc.

If you want to claim that the Xbox 360 was a more reliable machine than the PS2, that's your business. I find such blind ignorance boring, because it has become embarrassingly common in the industry today. But by all means, go try and convince the rest of the community of your claim that the 360 was really just unfairly persecuted, and the PS2 and PS3 were junk.

That way, you can waste OTHER people's time and not mine.
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strigoi814  +   236d ago
watch this and let me know your opinion..

http://m.youtube.com/watch?...
JasonKCK  +   236d ago
Articles like this don't do much to help your cause. Things like this just make it worse and bring more negative attention. To be fair, the Xbox fans reaction to this is rather small in comparison to the crap Sony fans gave them the past 6 months. I say just take it on the chin and accept what you get. In all honesty some people on this site kinda deserve it just a little. When you throw rocks at the other side daily don't get mad when they throw back. Fair is fair. I do agree it's ironic.
Hicken  +   236d ago
You sound like somebody who knows nothing about this site. What about the crap Xbox fans gave Sony fans for the majority of this generation? Does that suddenly mean nothing? You're talking about just accepting what you get, but don't have those words for the people who were throwing stones at the other side daily for the better part of 8 years.

Fair is fair, isn't it?

Edit: ... yep, as expected, you don't actually know this site. Otherwise, you'd know that it was definitely the other way around for the majority of this generation(as I stated above). Xbox ruled this site, and claiming to like anything Sony-related was just asking for it.

The tables haven't "turned" at all. They've gone back to what they were. Or what, did this site not exist before you joined it? You're ignorant to exactly what's going on. You're ignorant to WHY it's going on, and I suspect it's willful.

You bet your ass there's been negative news about Xbox this year, as that's been what there was to report: bad crap. Not without reason, though, and rarely blown out of proportion. It's laughable that you think MS never "ran" this site, and that what's going on now is somehow Sony fans reaping their just desserts, rather than MS fans trying to rekindle the same old BS from early on in generation 7.

If you're not even gonna bother to try and reason this out, then you are part of the problem.
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JasonKCK  +   236d ago
You are talking about N4G right? It's not exactly a big secret that this site is Sony slanted. If you can't see that then there is no hope for you. Don't get me wrong both sides do a fair amount of trolling and bashing, but the Sony fans here far outnumber the Xbox. If you can't see what is right in front of you then maybe you're part of the problem.

Over the past months since I started commenting here I have seen way more negative news on the front page about Xbox and hardly any about Sony. Now the tables are turned and some of you don't like it.
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DivineAssault  +   236d ago
But of course its xb fans! Theyre really hurt & let down by M$ choosing to focus on media services rather than gaming.. Im sure M$ will have some issues w their launch as well just like all the others.. The xb1 isnt a terrible machine but i refuse to pay $500 for a system that isnt stronger than my $400 PS4.. If they dont step it up & make some really bad a$$ 1st party exclusives that arent shooters, i ever buy xb1.. The fans can hate all they want but it wont stop sony from dominating the living room

Im glad my PS4 hasnt given me any issues.. Im buying the sony protection plan after my manufactures yr warranty expires just in case something goes wrong tho..
Grown Folks Talk  +   236d ago
I love how we still try & pretend PS2 was perfect. I know 1 person out of all my friends who never had one crap out. Dying after 2 hours. Play DVDs but not games. Laser doesn't work at all. Ect.

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