"Sony's next-gen console PlayStation 4 has just been released two days ago in US and users have already reported a fair number of problems and bricked consoles."
Over 1 million consoles have been sold if it was really that bad of faulty consoles we would be hearing more about this.But alas its just usually the same ones being blown out of proportion.
Of course they are a real problem for the people who it has happened too, i bet they are angry as hell now, i know i would be. But ive said it before and ill say it again....compared to the amount of completely fine PS4's functioning perfectly RIGHT NOW, this isn't a massive deal like many people on here wish it was. Here's something that should put things into perspective....ONE MILLION consoles have been sold (not shipped) in the USA in 24 hours....but i guess a few forum reports and a few youtube videos showing broken PS4's means this is "widespread" huh? Many bitter people on here are going to just have to accept the fact that this isn't as widespread as they wished it was. The X1 launches in a week and i pray it doesn't have widespread problems for 2 reasons : 1) i wouldn't wish a broken console on my worst enemy and 2) because some of you people are going to look like FOOLS after all your rants about the PS4.
For goodness sakes the console comes with a warranty. And everyone knows the risk you take buying a launch unit. Less than 1 percent have failed (which is unbelievably below standard).
We have to wait at least a few months to really know.
It's definitely not a trivial thing, especially for those who have issues, but that's the point of having a warranty. The fact is that there is a much greater percentage of people with PS4s that are working fine, so it seems to be a problem with a small percentage of systems, and not a widespread issue like the RROD was, at least that's what it appears to be like now. If we start seeing these issues for every console a month or two from now, then it's time to be worried.
So this, on the Internet people try and make everything a big deal. All for attention and to spread a message all for ratings. Now that we know Sony broke a world record. It really shatters their mission to make it such a big deal. Because we all already know we are not seeing thousands and thousands of people coming forward. People love drama and that's what grabs peoples attention. This is no different then tabloid magazines.
Agreed Lukas, do not like this news about PS4, only problem I had was very slow server... and getting X1 on Friday, after RROD 3 times, do not want issues this time. As you said, anyone making fun of this, and hoping it happens to the other side, shame on them, and Kharma is a bitch... This is never a good feeling, working all day, get home, do the usual thing, spend some time with son, and try get an hour to play, only to see console fail. Its a horrible feeling, hope this is very minimal and resolved quickly for all involved....
Exactly. How many reports are out there? A couple hundred? That's even with including the fake fanboy troll reviews.
it's been 2-3 days since it was released. maybe more down the road? my launch 360 rrod a year later, my launch ps3 ylod more than a year later.. so ill wait a little bit this time:)
Create a place where every angry customer can voice their issues (the internet) and it creates a false sense of widespread fault.
dude, get a life
I didn't know there was a world-wide accepted meaning of "getting a life"....PM me with instructions how and ill consider it :) Edit: Hold the PM, i just remembered that i will "have a life" when Nov 29th comes around! :D
you're the one spending your time reading his comments, you may be the one in need of a life.
Why do you guys feel the need to be so rude to each other. You don't have to like each other necessarily, but c'mon. 'Get a life' is so middle school. OT: The failure rate is at 0.4%. That's pretty damn low if you ask me. Electronics always have problems anyway. It's just that it's getting blown out of proportion for websites to get hits.
The fanboys won't admit it but these issues are a real problem. Sony needs to fix this before the holidays.
1 million PS4's sold. Each individual issue is a problem for that person, but in the grand scheme of things....this is but a pebble compared to a mountain.
check amazon.ca its troll free http://www.amazon.ca/produc...
If your asking them for a 0% defect rate forget about it. What Sony has done is acknowledge the issue and they are replacing defective PS4s. Thats all that they can do know.
The only thing I can admit is I am loving this console! Very srs! It so very fast at doing everything now. I have over 30 hours in AC4 and I can't stop playing it because it's that good. Both in graphics, visuals and game play. With still other games here to open. During my time looking around at people with issues. You know one big issue I saw people reporting and thinking their consoles were broke? The error messages that would pop up when trying to log on the PSN. They thought they have a software issue with the console. Not thinking about how the system was being hit with over 1,000,000 PS4 in the same time frame. Even I was getting those but I'm smart enough to know what is happening. Over on IGN they had a poll and 18% of the people on the poll reported this issue as the issue. Now a day or so later not a issue anymore.... So how this turns out to be something so big on the net? When really it's all nothing.
You did. But on your second issue, how can a company like Sony change your fanboyism by Xmas?
issues will still be there but fanboys make it look worse like its the end of the world
0.4% is 4 dead out of 1000, i dont think the failure rate is bad at all.. MEH!
No, it's 4 dead out of 100. Which isn't a big deal, but fanboys try to make it worse than it is.
No that would be 4 percent. But to be fair, the 0.4 percent was what was reported from the Taco Bell batch. We don't know what the real # is. But it seems so far, it's pretty low. Again, if 0.4 percent (that's 1/10th of 4 percent), that means 4 out of 1000.
sony has a history of low failure rates its the xbox you have to worry about ...many friends I knew locally had disc drives that scratched their discs....and got the red ring of death.
It would honestly be a challenge to find a 1st year 360 that still worked today.
Mine got it's 2nd RRoD as I was taking out the Halo 4 disc in there as I was removing my 360 to replace it with my PS4. 2 RRoD's, 1 scratch disc problem, 1 hard drive failure, and another failing disc drive. In other words, I was one of the lucky ones that didn't get 7 RRoD's.
I have one. It was fixed once two weeks into owning it and it has worked ever since. It's at my girlfriend's house and she and her friend's play it all the time too.
I'm not stupid enough to think PS4 don't have it's issues, but I'm not stupid enough to deny them either! Just hope the MS camp is prepped for the very same!
something very fishy about this so called problems
If by "fishy" you mean completely normal for a launch of a new piece of complicated tech, then yes....extremely fishy. What would be even fishier would be if it had no problems at all....
@ Lucas. Give it a rest man, we get it. You don't need to make the same point over and over again. Also, it's been out for like three days, it took a year or two for most people with RROD to start showing up and YLOD took a while too. After a year or two after launch will show the true numbers. Also, some of those day one editions could be families ordering to make sure they get it before Christmas, holdiays, etc...You have no idea how many PS4's are actually out of box and have been played the day it launched. Too early to really make these kinds of conclusions either way, so just chill man.
It's just xbox fanboys posting bad reviews. Like the Blu-ray vs HD dvd 1 star reviews that got removed from Amazon.. I emailed amazon during that format war. And got all those fake 1 star reviews removed. There are even sad people out there who has amazon accounts with 2 or 3 emails on same ip adress and abuse the rating system. You can order then cancel order. Or write un verified review.
Lots of unverified reviews on there with accounts who post 5 star xbox reviews for some games and 1 star for the ps4.. The truth will come out, and I bet $2000 that over 70% of all those amazon reviews are fake.
If you look at the official ps forums 90% of the complains of bricked systems are members who joined 15th November and 16th and have 1 or 2 posts. Very fishy and long time playstation members on there with the same exact delivery from Amazon who clearly likes plastation based on post count have none faulty systems.
Hmmm why would someone have lots of posts on support forum if they never had a problem till they got their PS4 I've had a PS3 for 5+ yes and never used the support forum.
Most likely overblown by the Media! Where I work we've sold about 100 PS4's not 1 was brought back so I highly doubt it's a serious issue but we all know how the media treats SONY! Facts are Facts!
Consider the scope of things. The Xbox 360 sold roughly 400k units over the duration of it's first month. PS3 only 200k. Social media, was also less pervasive. Social media is at a fever pitch now. And the PS4 instantly flooded the market with 1 million units in a 24 hour period. This is something that has never happened before, in an age where more people than ever are online. I'm going to be sitting here shaking my head in one weeks time at all the people going apeshit about Xbox One problems in the same way. I would be surprised if the Xbox doesn't also move close to a million units right away. I'm hedging my bets that Microsoft's network is going to be more stable off the bat than PSN, but I expect hardware faults to be about the same.
I give up. Its open season on x1 when it releases. I tried to be diplomatic but you xbox fans will not quit. Its only been out for 3 bloody days.
It's been open season on the Xb1 since E3 where have you been?
You think its bad for ms now?. lol!.
As if it has ever not been open season on the XB1 for you. Oh noz a hardcore Sony fanboy who always bashes the Xb1 is going to...gasp!...do it some more. Seriously, though, I doubt these failures are a serious problem for the PS4. Probably just the normal failure rate we see for all complex electronic devices.
come on dude...did you honestly think the PS fan boys weren't already going to come down hard on the Xbox launch no matter what happens? If you haven't known for months/years that every problem with the Xbox one launch will hit 1000 degrees here, you really are living in a fantasy land.
Maybe you should, I dunno, enjoy your new PS4 and not worry about? Just a thought.
I am a PS fan and i am reasonable. Check my comment history @starchild and find where i am bashing the x1. You lot are deluded. Didn't even know i am being followed which is creepy. The PS4 sold more than 1 million in 24hrs and yet we get these articles left right and center about an issue that will take weeks if not months to fully get a clear picture. If anything it just shows you xbox fans are desperate to find anything to latch which is sad. And yet you guys call me a fanboy?. lol! The gloves are off.
Really? I am sure xbox fans didn't write these articles and also their are PS4 users here, that are widely known to be PS3 fans, admitting they have issues. The issues are normal, that's why I am not getting a launch console for either developer, I'll wait to make sure their are no major issues, then purchase a little down the road. Be honest though man, if this was the X1 right now and the PS4 launched this week, it would have more degrees and the PS4 fanboys would be all over this. Again, this is normal for new launch tech. and I expect similar numbers with the X1
It doesn't matter if it is a PS4 or a toaster. Electronics are not perfect and you really shouldn't expect them to be.
On Amazon.com, which had massive PS4 pre- order figures there's 1,123 good reviews & 535 bad reviews complaining of broken consoles. That's more than 1/3rd of failures from Amazon.com. Now when the pre order figures came out for the PS4 we were told they were correct & believable, now there is bad reviews it's all lies. Make your minds up people, you can't have it both ways. Ok edit, 1/3rd of reviews, but also maybe there are people who didn't review also had broken ones... But my point was when the pre orders from Amazon for PS4 everyone said they were real, but now the bad reviews are made up...
"That's more than 1/3rd of failures from Amazon.com. " No, 1/3rd failure rate for the people who gave feedback, not 1/3rd of every single person who bought a PS4 from Amazon. Unless you believe that Amazon only sold 1658 PS4's? Lol. Amazon sold hundreds of thousands of PS4's. Misinformation and misleading titles are baaad,mmkay?
I bought my PS4 on Amazon and I didn't leave any feedback nor do I plan on it.
You do know that a very small number of people with working PS4 will post reviews becuse they woulnt care and are busy playing right?. The opposite if yours is not working and spending time on the internet venting. Use common sense.
I like that last part. "but also maybe there are people who didn't review also had broken ones..." And maybe there are people who didn't review who have perfectly fine working PS4s.
"but also maybe there are people who didn't review also had broken ones..." People with broken ones are always going to be more vocal! I know I would be. I don't tend to review many things that I buy, but I always do if it turns out to be a bad/ broken product. Also, I dont know if I believe all those bad reviews are genuine as anybody can review anything on Amazon.
What? People reviewed it but didn't say it broke in their review? Again you can bet something like 1 percent who are enjoying their system reviewed it, and those it broke on, probably half or more reviewed it. That's just the way it works. Also not all are negative because of broken consoles but shipping problems. Again let's put this in perspective. Out of 1 million, the RRoD claimed about 250,000-500,000. Many people bought another console whether early or a couple of years later. But even the official numbers would be over 250,000 out of 1 million. So shouldn't we make up our minds up on context and facts? We'll see if this is a small issue or a medium issue, so far nothing indicates it's anywhere close to RRoD and other 360 design flaw issues.
I'll tell you what is a real problem. The headphone jack is broken on all controllers. If you plug it in all the way, it doesn't work at all. You have to take it out a bit in order for it to work. How did this get past quality assurance? The controllers are basically all broken!
Stop spreading FUD. It works fine on mine and my friends.
Go into the sound and screen menu and go to your headset option. Now plug it all the way in and the option for the headset will be grayed out. Pull it out a bit and it works. I just went out and bought another controller. The same thing happens. The jack is a piece of garbage. You can now finally party chat on your playstation but the mic doesn't work! WTF???!!!
You know you'll be accused of making it up. Hope you get it sorted.
Are we even sure this is a real problem and not Microsoft's 1000+ person PR team they just hired for reputation management and evangelism? Myself and 4 other people I know have had zero problems with our PS4.
Oh it's a real problem for sure. I know 4 people who bought them and only 2 are working. One died after playing killzone and the other never worked at all. Sony definitely went the cheap route with this console. You can just look at the material and tell it isnt the highest quality.
This explains the BLOD in most of cases : "I had the same problem and fixed it this way : What i did to fix the No Signal fix is I hooked up my PS 4 to my HD Pc monitor and did the updates. once I got through the setup I then went to my systems Options: Setting/Sound and screen/ video output resilution to 790P Rgp range i put at limited ypb/cb/cr range i put limited. It seems some PS 4 where set at 1080p as a defult so if you have a 790p tv it wont pick it up. Not sure but it seemed to work on my tv. hopfully this will help." Conclusion, buy yourself an full HD TV and not an HD ready or lower resolution and everything should be fine...
Sadly I'll bet this is the problem. All these 1 star reviewers are trying to stuff composite cables in the HDMI port.
There were some consoles that actually had some problems, but most of the BLOD, were because of this. Some people could add solve this by restarting the console in safety mode. In safety mode the resolution is 720p...
Its still to early to say if its a serious problem. The number of dead PS4s is still very low.
tell that to the kid who just paid $400 for a BRICK
Obviously the PS4 is faulty. Fanboys are up SOny's butt and don't want to admit it, we know how silly they are. 40% failure rate on Amazon.com by VERIFIED PURCHASERS and Sony has told Amazon to stop selling them. Apple once sold 9 million iphones in 48 hours and you never heard about them having 4000 bad phones because that's BAD publicity so Apple made sure their phones worked. If Nvidia/AMD had 4000 bad GPU's I would WAIT till I got a response from headquarters but so far nothing from Sony except them bragging about selling 1 million but no love for the ones with BRICKS! Good job to SOny fans in the forums who have found work arounds to some of these Blue light issues.
shut up Finn the human