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PS4 Defection Rate

There has been some reports around the internet about PS4 units having hardware problems but the fact of the matter is, many websites are starting a commotion to report about every defected unit they can find.

What these websites don’t tell you is that there are already a lot of PS4 units out there, and they are in working, stable conditions and there are a lot of these units, more than you would expect.

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Kingthrash3603811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

you lost me at "reports around the INTERNET"
lol naw i read on but over a million ps4 are out there and compared to the say 300 consoles reported on amazon so far thats very little. but this is the internet age so information like this will spread and sound larger than it really is....non the less its scarier and any horror movie to see such reports hell just 5 would have me worried.

GamingSoup3811d ago

How should I make it easier to read?

PeaSFor3811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

easier to read?lolwut?
a loud minority will always make it look worst than reality since the silent majority are simply playing without problems, stories are always ridiculously emplified and blown out of proportion because of it... and you are pretty much repeating the same regurgitated overblown crap another time..

EZMickey3811d ago

I think he was just yanking your chain.

Truth is, most people know that the negative news is getting more press than the positive.

Kingthrash3603811d ago

this^
chain unsuccessfully yanked i guess lol

GamingSoup3811d ago

He (kingthrash) edited his comment, he originally made it sound like he didn't understand. Also, I understand it was only a few, I was just talking about the defects in this post ;)

Eonjay3811d ago

@GamingSoup
Wow, your calculated defect rate is less than Sony's. I see you updated at the end but even .4 sounds ridiculously good. If they can keep it under 1 percent, that would be outstanding.

Boody-Bandit3811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

So let me get this straight. Some one created a site called gamingsoup (good name since you're stirring the pot right out of the gate) just to further this horrendous, massive, simply out of control problems with the PS4 even though we have absolutely no idea how minuscule or widespread these problems really are?

I know a couple dozen gamers that all picked up a PS4 and not one of them had a single issue other then PSN having maintenance the 1st day.

My wife and I just dropped my sons PS4 off to his fraternity house today to save him the train ride home and he told me the same thing I'm saying here. He knows a ton of college kids, including a few from his frat house, that picked up PS4s at the midnight launch and he hasn't heard of anyone having a single issue. That college of his is on lock down. That's all they've been doing since the PS4 was released. I just hope he keeps his grades up.

But yeah let's create a site to further blow this up into something that might not be a high percentage issue.

I said it earlier today and I will say it again. Another console is being launched very soon and it has all eyes on it after it's last launch. What goes around comes around. Think about it because you never know what could happen.

Anyone that rubs salt in the wounds of a gamer that had his console go bad is just filled with petty ignorance. I've been there and it's beyond frustrating but yet some actually get pleasure out of this. SMH

gamingsoup.com+ - clicked
story quality? - WTF?
like this site? - No

ChrisW3810d ago

We will never know the true percentage... just like the numbers for PS2's DRE.

insomnium23810d ago

@brutal

"Another console is being launched very soon and it has all eyes on it after it's last launch."

I wonder how many news we will get telling us we have a RROD 2 fiasco in our hand. SMH just play the damn games people. I'm in europe and don't have a PS4 but I'm still too occupied with PS3 and Vita games to bother with all this unnecessary BS.

FamilyGuy3810d ago

A man will tell 10 people about a bad experience while only praising a good experience to one person. Something like that. Basically you're always gonna hear people be more vocal about problems than they are about something meeting or exceeding their expectations.

I feel bad for the group experiencing problems though, it's like winning a raffle in Bizzarro world, the "prize" is something negative.

Sono4213810d ago

I'm not understanding these "issues"... like seriously? Can someone post an actual video to these issues? Because so far this just seems to be blowing smoke... and as for PSN being under maintenance.. unless you actually got a PS4 this would sound bad.. but it wasn't at all.

When you would connect your PS4 right on the Home screen it would say "Playstation Network under maintenance" but then you go to the store and it works just fine.. downloads and all.. then you go to play online and that works just fine as well.. so did the live streams.. and the linking with facebook.. everything. Well except call of duty ghosts was for some reason taking forever to install (not just me having this problem) but other than that the experience has been flawless and even though it was "Under Maintenance" everything worked just fine.. it all worked fine the night I got it at launch and it's worked fine since.. I feel like Sony just made it say that just in case people had problems? but that's just my theory :p

but seriously I would like atleast 2 videos showing these so called "issues"

Soc53810d ago

By not using the term "defection rate"
Lol don't think that's the appropriate term.
Sounds like you're talking about the rate of people switching their loyalty to a cause than a malfunctioning console.

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Kingthrash3603811d ago

i was joking then too..i erased nothing it was the first sentance only at first..and if i took it seroiusly i wouldnt have read on...c'mon man its a coo article mabad if i pulled the chain too hard.

ZBlacktt3811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

Love playing my PS4!!! It rocks! God help MS next Friday, lol.

AngelicIceDiamond3811d ago

@Black I'm sure they'll do fine.

ZBlacktt3811d ago

and who are you? Nobody awh... ok. Thanks they were fine last launch too right?

AngelicIceDiamond3811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

Wow you instantly got defensive not sure why. You bought your PS4 at launch not sure what else could be your problem at this point.

I just made simple assumption and you blew it out proportion for no reason.

I just said I'm sure MS will be fine next week that's it.

ZBlacktt3810d ago (Edited 3810d ago )

No, try more like got factual. My whole point was the same drama will unfold for MS as well come Friday and into the weekend. It's just what the Internet brings. That was my assumption based off history.

Now that the word is out that the PS4 sold 1 million consoles in 24hrs ( world record ). Now everyone understands what some of us have been saying all along. That there really wasn't no issue when you look at the total sales.

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ATiElite3811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

I know SOME Sony fans are in Spin Mode or Damage Control mode but when FORBES starts writing stories of WIDESPREAD PS4 issues then you can not deny the problem.

well i guess you can deny the problem but it's time to be realistic and realize Sony has an issue.

Screw AMAZON as I feel that that is people at AMAZON doing intentional damage.

I'm talking about the HDMI poor manufacturing port and the Software issues.

Forbes ......you know the Business Magazine who is ALL about Business and how things effect a Companies bottom line. The Magazine trusted by investors.

Not some silly Gamers site written by kids who can't use spell check. Forbes and a few other LEGIT sites is why I started taking this Sony thing serious.

all in all I hope Gamers get working PS4's. They spent money waiting on something and it should work when it arrives.

No one should receive faulty hardware.

Nitrowolf23811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

Eh, Forbse has had it's fair shares of idiotic posts. They called SOny out of the game after the PS3 $299 price cut and look where the PS3 is now.

Forbse is basically in the same boat as any other site here. Just going based off the Internet. Not saying the PS4 issues are fake or anything, cause i have a friend who has a faulty console. It is a real issue indeed, I just wouldn't make it comign from Forbe a big deal

Sony_Fan3811d ago

A prediction and discussing failure rates are a different thing.

Nitrowolf23811d ago

@ Sony_Fan

Isn't this failure Rate basically a prediction? They are gathering info and using math, sure, but no where does this amount for the mass shipped. It's an educated Guess at best

Visiblemarc3811d ago

I worked in computers. Hardware bricking is a FACT of the consumer electronics industry. 0.4% is incredibly low. You expect perfection? The processes required, if it was at all possible, would DRAMATICALLLY effect console pricing. Do you realize how much more consoles would cost of they had to extensively stess test millions of units?

The vast majority of gamers would rather buy a console for $399 and have a 1 in 300 chance of needing to have it replaced for free rather than paying $599 for a machine that is almost guaranteed 100% to work. Don't think it would effect cost? Just consider the space, infrastructure, staff and volume-limiting factors.

I don't care about your fanboy wars, but hell...can we stop warping people's expectations of what normal is?

jessupj3810d ago

Even me, someone that rationally and logically questions issues instead of blindly believing everything I'm told was getting a little scared when there's really nothing to be worried about.

So I could imagine many casual gamers would of believed the FUD. Fortunately casual gamers don't visit gaming news sites.

scott1823811d ago

What Sony fan is trying to spin anything? Everyone acknowledges systems will fail, nobody is denying that or saying they wont or haven't. I think the people that are doing the real spinning are the xbots coming out of the wood works drooling over any negative press about Sony... So far there is no failure rate out of the ordinary, especially for launch hardware, is that not correct! holy hell.

LordDhampire3811d ago

Lol forbes knows nothing about gaming, forbes has no clue what they are talking about, out of the 100,000 or more units they shipped....200 bad reviews?

Really? That's amazing...just wait til people have had this console long enough to actually write reviews on it

givemeshelter3810d ago

You are going to see massive damage control on this site LOL

scott1823810d ago

In 1080p, because it's for playstation...

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NateCole3811d ago (Edited 3811d ago )

Can we just wait until the dust settles and know for sure the actual failure rate?.

This is silly. Its been out for less than 2 days and we are seeing constant articles about this.

Even if there is total of 4 thousand bricked PS4 its probably only 1 percent of PS4 out now.

We are arguing over something we really don't know for sure.

I advise the same for next week when the x1 launches. Wait until 2 week or even a month to get a clear idea.

In the meantime it is pointless to argue over something we don't know yet.

smashcrashbash3811d ago

Forget it.You are trying to pitch logic on N4G and on a Sony article no less.Anything defense just makes you a damage controlling Sony fanboy and nothing less.

whoyouwit043811d ago

I don't think the faulty consoles are a mall incident, because if they were there wolud be any reason for sony to ask amazone not to allow sale until they can figure out whats goin on.

Nitrowolf23811d ago

They already shipped though, it's kind of hard to ask that back if it was a mailing issue

josephayal3811d ago

Think all consoles launched were all fine? cmon

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot13h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke197h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke193h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

-Foxtrot1h ago

"Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs"

He's literally just told you why

We're waiting like 15 years before a sequel comes out, it's insane

Skyrim came out in 2011, the next game is expected to come out in 2027 at the earliest so that's 16 years apart while Fallout 4 came out in 2015 and might not release until 2031, again 16 years.

We're fine with Bethesda trying new things and doing new IPs like Starfield but adding a new game to the cycle now means a bigger wait. Also Starfield didn't meet most peoples expectations, can you imagine waiting 15 years or so for a sequel and it's disappointing? It would feel even worse because you would have to wait another 15 years to see if they manage to come back from it.

They need to give it to another developer, we don't need main numbered titles but a spin off of Fallout and Elder Scrolls should be cycled in between the long gaps of the main releases.

Once again you are making out people want these games as quick as possible when all we want is a standard development time of at least 4 years or so rather than waiting 15.

mandf5h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor6h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave5h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor3h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

-Foxtrot1h ago

@Skuletor

Who's saying to rush the releases? No one is saying that...

People just don't want to be waiting 15 years for a sequel, they aren't working on the game for that long, you do realise that right? The issue isn't coming down to them working on the game and us "rushing them", it's the fact they are working on other games like Starfield now meaning bigger gaps before they even get started on them.

I bet you any more Elder Scrolls VI only entered full development last year when Starfield was finished despite being announced in 2018.

Duke193h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai5h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris5h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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