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PS4′s Red Line of Death True?

Users are beginning to report that their PS4's are having the RLD. (PS4)

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mushroomwig  +   816d ago | Intelligent
Unless tens of thousands of people are having issues then it looks like just isolated problems, bad luck for those gamers though.
xPhearR3dx  +   816d ago
Mine will be delivered here shorty. Here's hoping for the best. So far there's the HDMI issues, this Red Light thing, and it sounding like a jet engine. I hope to experience none of those.
Eonjay  +   816d ago | Well said
The problem is, the hundreds of thousands of people with no issue wont make the news. People only publish the small percentage of Mishaps. .4 isn't even 1/2 of 1 percent. That is phenomenal.

By the same token, next week when Xbox launches, we will have to suffer through every instance of every malfunction. There is 0% chance that every unit will be perfect.
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mp1289  +   816d ago
@neonridr. i know what you mean, i was one of the unlucky ylod people. my luck cant be this bad with the ps4 though...hopefully
Ezz2013  +   816d ago
don't worry
those news of few people is just overblown don't mind it
i have the console and have no problem what so ever so far
hope you enjoy yours :)

but you know,it gonna be very interesting next week when xbox one launch and get it own problems like every console at launch

let's see how fanboys from both sides act then

i'm sorry if you didn't understand my point
what i'm saying is that
both consoles will have their own problems like every console at launch
but fanboys will overblown them and act like it's the end of microsoft or sony

fanboys from both sides will show how much hypocrite they are
got my point now ?
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PoSTedUP  +   816d ago
sony said 0.4 and thats a pretty low %. it most definatly will be higher than that. im sure its not there yet, but it will be, and it will surpass that. i bet they are having issues with the ones they had the chinese (japanese?) students build.
Evil_Abed  +   816d ago
The way you phrased that Ezz, implies you are distancing yourself from fan boyish behavior and yet here in a ps4 RLoD article you feel it necessary to divert attention towards the Xbox and make that the focus.

The ole spin and redirect.
jebabcock  +   816d ago
The word for that is being polite and considerate while still voicing your opinion. try it. Outside of n4g alot of people having meaningful debates in such manner. Everyone has an opinion. What I don't understand is why an xbox fan would be commenting on here unless they wanted to flame....
Dehnus  +   816d ago
OY! sounding like a Jet Engine is just cool :). So don't even pretend that that isn't awesome!

Just turn up the volume on your TV, as it is only when you play a game. Or get an aviation scarf and goggles and sit in front of your PV for total win. :D

Now I still like the Wii U a lot more, but I must admit the sound thing was to be expected with that set up. And it isn't a big deal.

It has to do with chip yields. Since Sony needed so many units to supply everybody (I said so before but got a lot of disagrees regarding why there where so few demo units, they need them for preorders!). Some people just get a lesser quality chip, closer to the edge of the wafer then others.

The chip just functions normally, it just gets a bit hooter then the one's in the centre. That is why some PS4's just sound "COOL LIKE A JET ENGINE!".

It is one of the things an early adaptor just has to accept as a risk. The console is fine, just makes a bit more noise then some others.
shoddy  +   816d ago
At least it's not 33% failure rate
ZeroX9876  +   816d ago
played today, worked fine. connecting online can get you some errors at first (server overload probably?).

Saw my PS4 light change various colors, but no failure as of now.
shoddy  +   816d ago
Why worry when it's still under warranty.

Go trade it in until you get a working one
darthv72  +   816d ago
Greatness your command (cylon voice)
Freedomland  +   816d ago
Why only this site is getting news about overheating again.
FamilyGuy  +   816d ago

My ass, I left mine on all night (downloading the free stuff) and my room is pretty warm because of the heater, the PS4 on the other hand has been fine this whole time.
paul-p1988  +   816d ago
If i remember rightly the red line is just an indicator of it being hot and will shut down. I'm sure i read it on here about a month ago, so it shouldn't be a console death...
ThanatosDMC  +   816d ago
If Vita had a restore option, then i doubt this will be a problem. Sony would be smart enough to add the same functionality.
Sono421  +   816d ago
I'm doing fine?... So are my 3 friends that got the system.. our experience has been flawless and that's all I really care about XD
mikeslemonade  +   816d ago
Those guys should stand up the system. My launch PS3 and 4 year old 360 still work because I have them standing up vertically ever since I got them.
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   816d ago
My ps4 doesn't make a sound and runs great atm.everything works fine accept for them damn promotion ps+ codes I don't think they stack if your a ps+ member already.

Played from 12:40am to around 3:30am then woke around 10:00am and haven't turned it off since np.
Perjoss  +   816d ago
"So far there's the HDMI issues, this Red Light thing, and it sounding like a jet engine"

The next Ace Combat is going to be so realistic on the PS4!
redwin  +   816d ago
Well, I can't sign in to the network ... This sucks. First they tell me that we will have a # of launch titles and then when they get the preorder number they cancel a few before launch. And now this, I can't sigh in to the network. Ahhh
JasonKCK  +   816d ago
Well I hope they get the problem fixed fast for those gamers. Gamers without games kinda sucks. I had problems with my PC when I first got it. Had to have the power supply replaced 3 times.
BattleAxe  +   815d ago
Xbox and Nintendo fans can't stand the idea of another PS2 era of domination, so every time a console fails, they'll be all over it like white on rice.
Pogmathoin  +   815d ago
Well said Ezz.... Have had issues with most consoles... PS1, 2, the laser thing, 2 360's..... Had my original Xbox stolen in burglary, so far PS3 are fine.... And somehow these things happened around time of a great game.... Halo 3.... Orange box.... Gta3.... I tell you, it's horrible..... Hope this happens to no one..... Anyone hoping for this shit to happen to someone else, regardless of Sony, MS, deserves a good size 9 boot in the nuts.... So far PS4 is fine.... Only had issues with server earlier.....
Edit, jebbacock, most Xbox articles are swamped by PS fanboys.... Take it as tit for tat.... Nature of N4G....
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PS3n360  +   815d ago
Breakness Awaits! joking joking. Good luck.
nukeitall  +   815d ago
I find it odd that so many people are having problems with their PS4 on launch day.

I expect some percentage of failure, but that is over longer period of time, not over 6-12 hours!
NAG  +   815d ago
Crazy Larry  +   815d ago
I was gonna chalk this up to Xbox fanboys being idiots and making fake posts, but these are Amazon VERIFIED buyers. There's a LOT of unhappy PS4 buyers out there.
tiffac008  +   815d ago
Guys, relax this is expected. Don't forget there are millions of PS4 that are in the wild now. Tens of thousands PS4 with issues will happen at this early stage. It would be impossible not to.

As I have explained before when the shipment constraints are met and the manufacturing matures, we will see less and less of this.

As long as its not RRoD failure rate numbers then everything should be fine.
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rainslacker  +   815d ago
The only problem I've had so far is that the OS randomly goes back to the home screen from time to time when starting an application. Dunno if this is a bug, or I'm doing something that I'm not supposed to be doing, and admittedly I didn't spend a lot of time perusing the OS. Resogun ended up taking up most of my night.

Anyhow, the system fan is pretty quiet, and you have to listen hard when your sitting on the couch to hear it. The hard drive and laser can make some noise, but nothing bad when you have an actual game running with the sound on. It seemed to run pretty cool, and there wasn't even a lot of hot air being blown out the back.

Have 3 friends that got a PS4 last night, and not a single one of them had a problem. Seems like the broken systems are just normal percentages of failed units off the production line. It sucks, and while we should demand better, it is just the nature of electronics today.

You aren't surprised at all. You just want a reason to say that the PS4 has a high fail rate. The people with problems are more likely to say something, but I'm sure you'll ignore the much larger number of people that will say they have had no problems. Here's a thought. The people that have working consoles are spending time basking in the glory of a new generation and not hauling ass to the internet to say how their system works. The second someone has a problem, the first thing they do is Google it, then bitch about it, so DOA console numbers are skewed.

I'm sure you won't be surprised at all when the X1 is going to be getting just as many reports of DOA consoles.
Triella  +   815d ago
All I've seen is people reporting a pulsing blue light. Yesterday I saw it happened live while watching the videogamesawsome live stream when Netflix crashed the PS4. Fraser (the host) tried to reboot the console by pushing and holding the power button for 7 seconds... on his third try after a good 30 seconds of pushing it worked, the console rebooted and everything was pretty fine after that.
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DOMination-  +   815d ago
Its all very well saying its in warranty but when are you gonna get a new one? Theres not going to be much in the way of free stock in stores to swap out for your faulty one.
pixelsword  +   815d ago
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UltimateMaster  +   815d ago
A lot of them could be jealous trolls.
So far, no one that I know of nor that got online had any troubles with theirs.
Neonridr  +   816d ago
Agreed it looks to be isolated. But I bet you wouldn't care if it's isolated or not if you were one of the unlucky souls in these videos..

Shame, hopefully they get replacement ones ASAP.
tiremfej  +   816d ago
Shouldn't we expect a 0% failure rate? It's not like $399 is a toss in the bucket. I would expect the same from MS as well. Society as a whole has become complacent on being jacked around by's not right.
Neonridr  +   816d ago
@tiremfej - I could hope for 0% but realistically there are so many parts inside a video game console that you have to figure sooner or later something will break in it. Same goes with a car, you just end up with a bad part somewhere. These things happen and it's unfortunate.

You never want to see things like this happen, but you pray to god that if it is going to happen, that it happens to the guy standing in front or behind you in the lineup.. ;)
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tiremfej  +   816d ago
@Neon I get it. However, those working parts should not be failing the first day. Cars have many working don't see them breaking down 1st day out. Obviously over time, not first day.

I understand error is something that happens. Humans make errors, even robots that make the consoles...however we should not just accept it.
gaffyh  +   816d ago
@tiremfej - There is no such thing as a 0% failure rate for electronics. Even 3-4% is considered normal, which is why it is incomprehensible to expect a 0% failure rate.
oONinjavitiSOo  +   816d ago
My ps4 is working phenomenally! Sorry to hear some are having issues. I hope nobody has to deal with any issues on ps4 or xboxone. Well back to the games I didn't take the day off to be on lol. Have fun everybody!
static5245  +   816d ago

Actually cars have a failure rate too. Haven't you ever watched Fight Club? Those jobs actually exist where someone from Car companies go around where cars fail and figure if it actually deserves a recall or not. Cars fail a lot, even on day one off the floor.

Everything has a failure rate. Items are built by humans, Humans are not perfect, hence nothing you buy has a 100% guarantee of working perfectly. Thats why there are guarantees if it breaks you get a new one
rainslacker  +   815d ago
I feel really bad for the people that have this happen to them. It happened to me way back when when I got the Turbo-CD attachment and it didn't work. It's a really crappy feeling.

I just hope that they are easily replaced at retailers, or that Sony expedites the process of replacing them by sending out a new console along with a return box for the old one...kinda like western digital does with hard drives.
Angels3785  +   816d ago
All I have to say is.....04%....had mine since tuesday.....and nothing wrong.
XB1_PS4  +   816d ago
0.4%. Not .04%

Here, from Gameinformer:

Update: Sony has reached out to us to clarify the number of units that could be subject to failure. According to a representative, the .04 percent number we were provided is incorrect by a magnitude of ten. The correct anticipated percentage of units that will suffer from problems is .4 percent. Based on a projection of five million units sold by end of fiscal year (March 31, 2014), that accounts for approximately 20,000 units with hardware problems.
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Palaven  +   816d ago
I guess that's 20,000 people who are going to be "Awaiting Greatness" until they get a replacement console. I wonder what they are gonna think about the people who are saying 0.4% is acceptable.
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Angels3785  +   816d ago
Literally a typo sorry guys but still...its less than one percent
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VENOMACR1227  +   816d ago
That .4% I read this morning. Who know's what the number is now that the system has been out for roughly 16 hours. It's only going to go up.

Why is red the universal sign for your F'd? Xbox with the red ring and now PS4 with the red line. Wonder if the X1 has red too for your F'd.
MysticStrummer  +   816d ago
@Palaven - "I wonder what they are gonna think about the people who are saying 0.4% is acceptable."

Historically speaking, 0.4% isn't just acceptable, it's outstanding.
Crazy Larry  +   815d ago
LOADS of the reviews on Amazon are stating they are having problems. As I said in my post above, I thought it was idiot Xbox fanboys trolling the reviews, but these are VERIFIED Amazon buyers.
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rainslacker  +   815d ago
"I wonder what they are gonna think about the people who are saying 0.4% is acceptable."

Depends on how Sony, or the retailer the person purchased from resolves the issue. A bad thing can be made good again if the company involved takes the time to provide good customer service.

If they do something amazing for those people, then it's just a disappointment and inconvenience. If they jerk them around, then they will rightly be pissed.

And of course there will always some people who will feel that it is the biggest injustice in the world, and rail against it for the rest of their life. Those are usually rare though, the internet just makes them look common.
BallsEye  +   815d ago
0.04% is bulls!t. How they can know the number before people even picked up their ps4? Or they intentionally sold broken ones since they know exactly how many are broken?

You guys will believe in anything sony tells you.

just look at topic names on official sony forums
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insomnium2  +   815d ago

"Since people seem to believe what Sony says as 100% truth, does that same courtesy extend to whatever MS says as well? "

MS has a track record of out right lying to people. Things like "you know, things break" and "well within industry standards" come to mind when talking about X360.

You can't compare the two so yeah people are more prone to believing what Sony says to be true.....until they lie straight to our faces
HammerKong  +   815d ago
hey buudy go and check out again it to be reported 50% of buyers from amazon and still all of them have not recieved their console and it happened so soon it is more curios case than rod(ring of death) from xb360 because it was an software problem and this is having heavy hardware problems and also rod and new beast bod(blue line of death) and may noise and over heating problems and more buyiers from other sites are also same problems in mass and what about buiers who had byied from the shops they are also have not been reported this is the most weakest and hardest launch ever happened in lifetime ,what about me i was also having freezing and servers problem at least they can maintain their severs but that was too having problems,it is always like sony products always have saw'n poor internet services ,this also happened with ps3 and is again happening with ps4 ,xb1 is doing right for bring dedicated servers for us dedicated servers never saw these problems and people will see dedicated servers for every game coming on xb1 not like ps3 and ps4 getting dedicated serevers from only some selected 1 or 2 games in a year.
warczar  +   815d ago
every one needs to stop regurgitating the .4% number that Shu pulled from his ass. How could they possibly know what the percentage of failed units are at this early stage? the answer is they don't know yet. I feel bad for all those people who paid 500 bucks to stare at the outside of a little black box but that is what you get when you rush out to become an unpaid beta tester.
araman  +   816d ago
Exactly. Name one console that had a 0% failure rate, you can't. Nitpicking on one because of a few reported incidents is confirmation bias. There's also a fun little thing that comes with all these boxes called a "warranty" that means these will get handled, yet some people are acting like everyone that has these issues is SOL.
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iamnsuperman  +   816d ago
The problem is how we all use the Internet now. Think back to 06 and how many shared videos online. Nowadays everything can record a video which means these isolated incidents will get more attention
admiralvic  +   816d ago
The problem is that we live in a world where you typically only hear the bad.

I go 200+ days at my job without a single report being filed against me and I get one complaint because I made a "rude" comment and my boss gave me a 10 minute long speech about how he has to be able to trust me.

The PlayStation 4 and I assume Xbox One will be the same thing. Very few people are going to say "I got mine and it worked", since thats exactly what every single last buyer expects. We all expect it to come and we expect it to work. So we see a lot of people reporting these issues and it starts to seem like a big deal.
tiremfej  +   816d ago
@admiralvic Sounds like you're working for the wrong boss...or he/she is young?
Evil_Abed  +   816d ago
Shhh, let's not report negative news because it is unfair and biased. All of you afflicted with RLoD kindly suffer in silence and darkness because you are upsetting araman.
araman  +   816d ago
@GGJ, that's not what I meant and you know it. I'm talking about people hearing about a few isolated incidents like this and then blowing it up to say it's widespread. Look up confirmation bias.
T2  +   816d ago
.4% is phenomenal, and people have reported walking into shops buying ps4s today... so there will be lots to replace. This is literally a non issue, wake me up if a failure rate of 10% or more occurs.
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ChrisW  +   815d ago

You should try my line of work. My customers complain quite often about me and I don't get one word from my employer about it. I know my customers complain because I hear about it from my other customers.

The biggest reasons for the complaints are; I give too much homework, the curriculum is a bit too difficult, and I'm sometimes too strict. All of which, if ever I'm told of, is assumed that I'm doing a great job by my employer.
warczar  +   815d ago

Micro sold the xbox for 2 years before acknowledging the RROD and instituting a 3 year warranty program for systems that were bought after July 2007. At one time, there was just a 32% yield of one of the test production runs. 68 of every 100 test units were found to be defective. Microsoft knew they were selling us a highly breakable piece of shit, lets hope that Sony isn't doing the same thing right now.
Tapewurm  +   816d ago
Played mine for 3 hours after launch...then started it up this morning at 8am for some madden and killzone...still playing now at 1:30pm.. sweet system! I hope this is just some false hype by a few of xbone fanboys.
sobotz  +   816d ago
Why are you accusing people who got their PS4's bricked are Xbone fanboys?
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   816d ago
Exactly!! Been playing mine since last night an no issues here! Hence so many disagrees lol!!
Tapewurm  +   816d ago
@sobotz: I didn't accuse anyone... just said I and interpret...Jeebus!
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VENOMACR1227  +   816d ago
Not sure how it's false hype from X1 fanboys when there are YouTube videos of PS4 owners systems with the red light or sounding like a jet engine. That's not hype, that's proof.
ExitToExisT  +   816d ago
If the same thing would happen to Xbox One next week, you and other won't be this calm and forgiving.
Nykamari  +   816d ago
No because MS hid the RROD for 2 years before they did anything about it. All launch 360 were bad. It's had a rate of 54% not 33%. Still loved the system though. Last gen had its UPS and downs early but both got a Hell of a lot better in their 4th year on.
n4rc  +   815d ago
Its hilarious to me how some of you keep exaggerating the rrod numbers... Jesus, your up to 54% now?

It was low to mid 20s... And ps3 sat around 10%

And "rrod" is known for one specific defect... 2 years and thousands of hours later and your console dies isnt the same issue..
overrated44  +   815d ago
Yeah, it's crazy that he's saying 54% was 54%.
Rocky5  +   815d ago

Ok dude your deluded, you do realise your basing your hole argument on 5000 people, right? Thoughts are not the full numbers nor are they from MS.

Just like n4rc said it is hilarious.

I think after 2 years MS sold more than 5000 consoles lmao god some people.

& hello I'm new here, had to sign up to reply to this tit.
overrated44  +   815d ago
I was simply showing where he got his information from, because there are at least some facts to support it while the other guy was saying he made up numbers. Thanks for insulting me for just adding some perspective to the conversation, glad you signed up.
Rocky5  +   814d ago
My apologies, I'm just fed up with all gaming sites members hammering the Xbox One, all I see now a days is flame wars on articles or people attacking each other.

& that includes me, but I'm apologising, is was wrong to do so, but when I go to read about new stuff & all I see is Xbox sucks ass, or your a faggot/phaggot for having an opinion, it kinda gets you down & annoyed.
nosferatuzodd  +   816d ago
this is the thing here ,and why this looks like its fake.. most system you of to play for a while the system gets heat up and shuts down because of over heating problems, if this is true he just turn the thing on it was updating and have a red ring lol..

I saw a xbox fanboy in Florida destroy a ps4 with a baseball bat just to show how far they will go to put Microsoft in the lead thats just sad really if Sony isn't around you all would be stuck with a big fat DRM snake in you're heads right now but keep acting like that we shall see how far its going to put you guys but don't take my word for it cuz has soon has you speak the truth youre a Sony fanboy all console need to do well real talk
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iiwii  +   816d ago
But it wont put Micrsoft in the lead... It will cancel out next week when an XBox 1 gets smashed in the streets. It happens at every console release. I personally think that those people have a strong mental problem and should be admitted for treatment.
Jeedai Infidel  +   816d ago
People that act that violently based off of emotions should definitely be monitored closely; hopefully that dude doesn't have children.
reaperofsouls  +   816d ago
watched ur link, it's insane why would anyone spend $500 on a ps4 then smash it up
McErono  +   815d ago
not true...
Childprod1gy  +   816d ago
I love how people are saying it's isolated when people are having problems with hard drives, how loud the fans are and the fact that some aren't putting out video. I'm waiting to get mine. This doesn't sound isolated a lot of people are having problems.
DeadMansHand  +   816d ago
Then I'm a very luck soul because I have been playing mine all morning, with patch installed and its quiet and smooth. No major fan kicking on, no glitches or auto shutdowns.

ACBF looks phenomenal.

I also have mine in a open area and always keep my living quarters on the cool side (50-60 degrees).

I have a buddy who has his heat set to 70 degrees or more, keeps all his electronics in a cramped entertainment center and smokes in his house. These are the things that can contribute to your console having problems, too.
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onyoursistersback  +   816d ago
Red line of death!

Is there even images/videos showing this..?!
Death  +   816d ago

Yes. That is what this story is about. Click the link and take your pick.
DoctorXpro  +   816d ago
put the power brick inside they say.....

it wont overheat they say....
LoTuZ  +   816d ago
Classic case of putting something under a microscope and calling the entire product a fail.
jmac53  +   816d ago
Here's hoping it wont be to the magnitude of the red ring of death and me sending back 4 360's.
muffinbutton  +   816d ago
no mafucka its fucked up
assdan  +   816d ago
Exactly. There are going to be a few bad consoles in every batch. It sucks, but we have to deal with that. I also must add, after about 20 min of KZ, this thing is quieter than my ps3. Maybe some people were exaggerating...
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maddskull  +   816d ago
remember when shu said that the ps4 light will change in colors it probably happened and someone was looking for attention
1OddWorld  +   816d ago
I have the PS4 and Have experienced non of these issues. PSN being bogged down is the only issue to be honest. The system is amazing and I would be playing Resogun right now if I wasn't stuck at work.
reaperofsouls  +   816d ago
A few isolated incidents which are being over-sensationalized by biased gaming websites and Xbot zealots. Every console launch has teething problems remember the problems with DVD play back on ps2 and don't get me started on RROD on the 360 i had to personally buy 3 over a period of 2 years.
n4rc  +   815d ago
Its not being sensationalized.. These videos and reports are coming from Ps4 owners..

It seems more like some want to sweep it under the rug like it isn't happening... Its a fact of life, some x1s will have issues too.. Its why we ha e warranties..

But trying to downplay it isnt helping anyone
reaperofsouls  +   815d ago
@ n4rc
a few report of faultly ps4 is insignificant considering how many actually been sold this launch. Many of these reports will also be fabrications from Xbots. PS4bots will do the same at the xbox launch also distorting any true figures.
AndrewLB  +   815d ago
I suggest you go check out the official Sony support fourms. These are not isolated incidents it seems.
N7KIRK  +   815d ago
Haha, not that I care. Though if this was the Xbox, you can bet our opinions wouldn't be so forgiving.

"0.4%?!? Blashphemy!"
Battlefieldlover  +   815d ago
Mine is working like a dream. Downloading all the plus stuff now. Had an extra rubber circle thing so no wobble. Didn't sound like a jet engine when I played shadow fall. I guess I'm lucky or the vocal minority are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I don't mean to sound insensitive but electronics fail and reading the one star reviews on amazon (where I got mine) you'd swear sony murdered there parents and worse half are from "non verified" purchases.
kreate  +   815d ago
the first video was a obvious troll video.
however the other 3 videos look more real.

i wonder if this red line of death is really true.
or if its just a fluke between EA titles and ps4, or a firmware update issue with millions of people logging in.

it doesnt look like a over-heating issue. how can a console overheat in 1 day?
looks more like software issue.

if red line of death is true, i can only blame sony for this retarded situation.
Seraphim  +   815d ago
aside from having a hard time signing into my PSN and a few HDMI hiccups at first I have no complaints....

I have to agree with everyone though. The internet blows these small percentage issues out of proportion. Like another member pointed out, there's 0% chance there will be 0% issues with any of these consoles. Same can be said for any electronics in general. Shits going to happen and that's simply the fact of the matter.
ZombieKiller  +   815d ago
so far no problems over here! and the web browser picks up N4G nice too.

**oh and i was browsing the settings last night and saw that the camera had voice and facial recognition. kinect can pound sand, this is where it's at.
Ps4Console  +   815d ago
You can say that how would you like it .
Deltaohio  +   815d ago
Go check the reviews on amazon. I would venture and say about 50% of them are none functioning PS4s. For all the greatness the PS4 is it only gets 3 stars on amazon.
BallsEye  +   815d ago
Same thing was happening with RROD on 360. I had 6 xboxes 360 in lifetime (was selling and buying due to region change, new versions etc) none of them ever had RROD. I stilll use my launch system from 2006, works perfectly fine. None of my mates had the issue as well, yet everyone (especiallt n4g) were bragging about how huge the issue was. With that being me, if it will be your unit that will not work out of the box, you will change your mind, that issue is not big.
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resi5  +   815d ago
The same thing did not happen with rrod. The rrod issue was present in a huge amount of units. Whether the rld will affect the console to the scale is hard to tell at this point and we'd be better off waiting till after the eu release to see if this is big or small in terms of scale
Sweep14  +   815d ago
A 4% failure rate is considered a success in this industry when launching a new hardware to the mass.

So with 1-2 millions PS4 launching this year, expect 40000-80000 defective PS4.

That's bad luck when it happens to you but that's not the end of the world. Your PS4 is under warranty
dlocsta  +   815d ago
You are 100% wrong. Sony uses six sigma for quality which means only 3.4 bad units out of every 1 million produced. Yes it is true, I worked for Sony so I kind of know what I am talking about. This is a catastrophic failure according to six sigma.
Nicolee  +   815d ago
where is Yoshida now ?
Fox2M  +   815d ago
It's all over reddit so you can expect a response from sony soon.
solar  +   815d ago
Supercharged Brick.
Battlefieldlover  +   815d ago
How easily people forget.
Sayai jin  +   815d ago
No Red Line for me. I am enjoying my PS4! I had some trouble logging in to PSN launch night, but it was expected though...everyone was eagerly turning on their beast. The only issue I have had is that the system has locked up 5 times so far and had to reboot in safe mode. I am sure there is a patch incoming.
HammerKong  +   815d ago
man i'am ripped apart by my ps4 i got it early and first time my ps4 showed problem day before yeastarday when my ps4 freeze and crashed while playing battlefield 4 and when it start working just afrer whole server was broken and it reported that connection is lost and i checked my internet it was perfectly working but not psu and its services whole server broke down and i first get to notice the problems ,so it dont seems like these are software problems because software is have nothing to do with servers and hardware problems causes crashes and over heating and it was very hot while then and also crashed ,these problems use to last while the end of this gen same happened with xb360 last gen ,while then software problems like rod wher solved they never was able to solve over heating isseues .So it seems like it will last throught the gen because for solving this they will have to bring lot of variatons in hardware ,which is not possible at big scale ,same happened with xb360 because they cant't change the whole desigh and configurations of machine but can only reduce then in updated versions and other customers on amzon are also reporting this problems at big scale and there are also other problems reported like very nosoisy like jet engiene ,return of ring of death and new kind of beast blue line of death ,also some auto ejecting out of discs and i can say one thing about ps4 wether it is doa(dead or alive) or it can be doa(dead on arival) and i dont want ps4 to be dead and with time i will get to know more problemss about my ps4.
ashcroft  +   815d ago
Funny how calm some sound. If this was Xbox.It would be a fan-boy parade calling it a failure.
LiQuiZoN  +   815d ago
System has been excellent for my brother and myself. LOVE the PS4!! Sony did an excellent job!
dlocsta  +   815d ago
I used to work for Sony. My team, I was the manager, produced the repair manuals for Sony TVs. Sony is a Six Sigma organization. For those who don't know Six Sigma is a quality program that means there should only be 3.4 defective parts per million. That means no more than 4 bad PS4 in the first million. Have fun with your BLD! Now is the slightly larger and very well cooled Xbox One so bad? We will find out in six days. If it goes off without a hitch Sony is in trouble and I don't mean games, I mean as a business and financially.
nick309  +   816d ago
What ? So soon? /: cant wait to get my hands on a ps4 though.
Ma1nframe  +   816d ago
Not true. Only 0.04% of PS4's have had any issues, and they are with the HDMI port it seems. Yawn chock this one up to bs internet rumors.
Gemmol  +   816d ago
everyone post this 0.4 percent number, what if they just post that number to not bring fear to the masses. what if the number was 25 percent to 40 percent, would people avoid the system more, or would they take a chance like they did with hearing 0.4 percent
admiralvic  +   816d ago
Well, the Xbox 360 had a 50%+ failure rate ( ), yet the generation wasn't completely dominated by the PlayStation 3.

The long / short of it is, Sony is giving a number that has some sort of logic behind it. There are ways to estimate how many would have a problem, though people need to understand that this is an estimated number and not a straight up fact.
PlanetExpressShip  +   816d ago
And what if hitler never died and Germany is just lying
There's probably only a .00001% chance of that happening, but what if it was 25-40 percent!?
I'm not taking a chance on that , I mean look at those numbers I made up!
Death  +   816d ago
They will never release the actual numbers or real percentage. I have no idea how they can even say they expect .4% or 20,000 of the expected 5 million sold by years end to be defective. The only possible answer is they had .4% of the 4000 Taco Bell consoles and the additional consoles given to media reported as defective. That would be a total of approx 16 consoles reported the day before launch. At best, the .4% represents the percentage of consoles they expect to die on day 1. They have no idea how time will impact these numbers. The only way we will know if this is a design issue or quaity control issue is to wait and see. Once again though, we will never know the actual numbers.
Saigon  +   816d ago

If I am not mistaken, Sony didn't say that. It was one of the gaming sites that gave that estimation based on the first roll out numbers. Sony stated there were 7 out of the 4000 that were faulty. Those were the numbers reported and I am sure it increased. At the time I calculated .002% when that statement was made.
AndrewLB  +   815d ago
admiralvic- That's a bunch of crap. Squaretrade did a survey of 16,000 xbox 360 owners and the failure rate was 23.7%. Only 12% were RROD failures and the other 11% were due to other problems like the E74 error. I'm not saying these are good numbers, considering the 360 was 2x as likely to fail as the PS3, but the throwing around of bogus numbers which rely on small sample groups along with questions like "do you know anyone who had their 360 fail", which greatly skews the numbers because of statistical overlap.

Btw... the high failure rate was due to screw-ups over at IBM who designed the processor, and they largely were the ones who ate the cost of the failures.
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n4rc  +   815d ago
For o
rainslacker  +   815d ago

Sony did say this number in response to an article that had it higher, think 2% or something.


The .4 is probably derived from the internal expected number of units to be faulty off the production line. These are numbers they estimate ahead of time based on quality of the production facility, and type/amount of quality control checks put into the production pipeline.

There are always some faulty units that fall through the cracks since testing is done on a sapling pool from a lot of machines made. They randomly test units, and if a certain percentage comes back faulty, they test them all. If not, they are all sent out.

It is highly impractical to do a full test on every single unit off the production line. It's not even practical to do a partial test on every single unit. This is particularly true the more complicated the electronics device gets, and becomes exponentially harder as higher number of units are produced.

On top of that, while the components in these electronics are made by machines, they are assembled by humans. The human factor can lead to defects. It's even possible that an entire batch of faulty chips could be sent out due to the nature of silicon. No matter how precise the machine making these parts is, there will always be faulty units that make it through. This is where the rumored yield production issues came from on the X1. It implied that a good number of the chips made, just didn't meet standard.

Otherwise, the difference between this, and what MS did with releasing faulty units, is that there was a known defect in the design of the 360 which caused the RROD. What Sony is doing is pretty standard in the industry.

It really does suck for those that get a faulty system, and I feel for them. I just hope it gets solved quickly, and to their satisfaction.

I really do think it's WAY too early to tell if this is a widespread problem though. It's pretty obvious that the people that have problems early are going to go straight to the internet and try to solve them, which means sharing their problem, which makes the problem look massive when compared to the numbers that are actually using the system and not on the internet.
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RAGE91  +   816d ago
So far.


That was the percentage rate before release. As a gamer I hope Sony sort this out.
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Software_Lover  +   816d ago
How in the hell do you know how many ps4's have been sold and how many have had problems?

People are pulling this number from the deepest regions of their arses!!!
Palaven  +   816d ago

So your saying Shuhei Yoshida is "pulling this number from the deepest regions of his arse?" I suppose he could be lying, he did say the "red line of death" wasn't true a few months ago.
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admiralvic  +   816d ago
The number comes from Sony and there are ways to estimate such figures. Also, it in no way means that only .4% will be affected, just that the failure rate should be somewhere in that range (be it higher or lower).

Long story short, it's a figure that I am certain Sony can explain if legally pressed, but means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Gemmol  +   816d ago
look at my post above, if sony were to say the number is higher would you still go to the system??? there are reasons people put low numbers in the news, no one wants a bad press or image, I think the number is higher but it do not matter, they already made the sale.......@palaven
Software_Lover  +   816d ago
Reply to Palaven.........

The question still stands. He either.

A)knew that from manufacturing exactly how many were defective and decided to ship them anyway knowing exactly how many were defective

B)Knows exactly how many have been sold in less than 24hours and exactly how many are damaged.

So which one is it?

If neither, he is just guessing out of his arse also.
Death  +   816d ago
The day before launch the only systems out were the 4000 Taco Bell consoles and the ones given to media outlets for New York preview. We may have had around 4100 in peoples hands. If we take .4% of those, we have 16 defective consoles out the gate. That would be reasonable if we knew of 7 or 8 that were reported leaving 8 defects that didn't make it to the various media outlets.

If they expect to deliver 5 million by years end, that would mean there is a potential 20,000 defective units that will be deliverd if it holds to .4% which is way below industry standards. Keep in mind these numbers are taken from defects before day 1. We have no idea if the number will remain very low at .4% since it can change over time.

Anyway you look at it, there is nothing to indicate a mass problem at this point. Time will tell if there is an issue outside the norm.
Gemmol  +   816d ago
I get it everyone is gonna down play this, but what if it happen to you, would you still brush it off like things question what if it happen to you again, will you be like 360 owners who own more then 5 360s or would you give up on the console
Avernus  +   816d ago
Warranty...that is all.
Gemmol  +   816d ago
I feel you, but I always told myself if my console break, I am going to the next company, I refuse to buy same console twice, but I can see why Xbox fans did it for the 360
nick309  +   816d ago
Had 2 ps3's dying on me... Right after warrenty ended/:
Nocando  +   816d ago
What about after 90 days?
NateCole  +   816d ago
It means you got one of the bad ones and you use the warranty now.

It sucks but no one can seriouly expect a zero chance of getting a defective device.
T2  +   816d ago
if you get a new system who cares... if you gotta go buy a new one then hell ya that's a problem. by the way sony has an extended warranty as well.
rainslacker  +   815d ago
If it happened to me, I wouldn't brush it off. I would be trying to resolve the problem to my satisfaction. That seems to be what a majority of the people want from telling their stories. In the Sony forums, it seems to be people are trying to find a resolution, with the occasional person being uppity about it.

However, on here, some people are making it into a major thing, and trying to imply that it may be a widespread problem, which at this point it certainly isn't.

I believe a vast majority of people do understand that things like this aren't perfect. They understand that electronics manufacturing isn't 100% perfect. While I'm sure those people are disappointed, if they say it's because Sony sucks or the hardware itself sucks(implying design flaws), then it's really hard to take them seriously.

The worst part, at the moment, is that the people with faulty consoles may have trouble replacing them as, unless I'm wrong(haven't checked), because there isn't enough retail stock to facilitate exchanges. That means sending the machine directly to Sony, which obviously takes time, and it is the weekend.
PositiveEmotions  +   816d ago
Nope my ps4 works fine but i cant play ray movies :(
Eonjay  +   816d ago
I think you have to enable it from setting. Don't quote me on that though... I don't get mines for a few more hours.
WitWolfy  +   815d ago
Downlaod that 300mb update that will enable the feature.
PositiveEmotions  +   815d ago
Where do i get the 300mb update?
Bgibbs  +   815d ago

Hit up on the UI, you should have a new notification saying that a system update is available. Assuming you have the PS4 hooked up to the internet
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soljah  +   816d ago
ha ha good for them
im loving my ps4 with my new 1tb 7200rpm hard drive running quiet as a mouse and cool as a cucumber.
guess i must just be lucky NOT!
Gemmol  +   816d ago
why you did not put a 2tb
soljah  +   816d ago
i wantbed a 7200rpm dual platter 1tb is the largest one thats made
Edvin1984  +   816d ago
Sadly my PS4 sounds like a Jet when ever I play KillZone. It reminds me of my original fat xbox360 it is really loud. I am sorry I would rather have a fatter uglier unit that is not disturbing I am not a happy camper, and I really looked forward to the PS4. Also, its crashing a lot its all update yet its still pretty bug, but that's not a big deal can be fixed with drivers. However, that fan is insane and this is really putting me off.
crazysammy  +   816d ago
That sucks I have had mine on all nite and all day today and there is no evident fan noise. Hopefully you didnt get a bad unit.
Ezz2013  +   816d ago
agreed, no loud fan here too
almost silent when playing Killzone SF

it seems like he indeed got a bad unit
punisher99  +   816d ago

Really? Is the air coming from it really really warm?
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BabyTownFrolics  +   816d ago
I have the same fan issue

Playing games fans loud as hell, not playing quiet as a church mouse

Spoke with manager of my local gamestop and stated the moment they received their next batch of ps4's I could do the exchange with in 30 days deal

Just so folks know when we say it's loud, it's really loud and stays that way
GarrusVakarian  +   816d ago
You should definitely get in contact with customer support and tell them about your fan problem, i would.
Lannister  +   816d ago
haha, why do they even build a red light into these things :P

Just use a blue one for everything.
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Arturo84  +   816d ago
The same blue one for every issue? So you can't tell what's happening
Christopher  +   816d ago
Sounds like issues with installing the 1.5 patch.
Kayant  +   816d ago
Yep every single video except the last one was installing FW. Also the comments from the user from the first video seems to back this up.
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VGscene  +   816d ago | Well said
When we posted the original story back on October 15th we were accused of Photoshopping the image and Shuhei Yoshida himself said it wasn't true. Now the red line is mentioned right in the PS4 user manual and users are experiencing it first-hand.
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Kayant  +   816d ago
No. You reported it as *Red line of death* meaning the console died. Which wasn't the case as it was *Red line of warning* like it appears in the manual & the console was working two seconds after removed.

These cases don't seem to have anything to do with overheating but to do with messed up firmware updating as two videos out of three show the updating prompt before the blinking red line beings.

These two cases are not the same thing.

Edit -

Your headline doesn't allude to that does it now.
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VGscene  +   816d ago
Our article clearly stated that the console returned to normal after resetting it and wasn't dead.
VGscene  +   816d ago
Here is a link to the PS4 user's manual directly on Sony's website.

Note where it says the red line means "The PS4™ system is overheating. Turn off the system, and wait until later to use it."

Yoshida did not say the headline wasn't true he said the article wasn't true. Our article CLEARLY stated that the console returned to normal as soon as it was reset.
T2  +   816d ago
@VGscence - why then do you label it the "red line of death" when it obviously doesn't result in anything of the sort.... obvious sensationalist bs article.
KNWS  +   816d ago
There was evidence for this at E3 and two recent Sony events were the PS4 overheated in front of people. Sony fans dismissed what i said, but i think i was right until i hear more what the issues are here with the PS4

The red line is an overheating issue its a warning your console is very hot.

A fan problem i'm guessing.
kewlkat007  +   816d ago
Sony's koolaid was still strong around that time..nobody took notice and if it did it was all about damage control.
Objective  +   816d ago
Shuhei liar confirmed
Underworld  +   815d ago
Shuhei was asked if the "red line of death" on the PS4 was true. He said no, and he's right. There is no "red line of death". It is just a warning light. There is a big difference.
rainslacker  +   815d ago
So do you want a prize or something now? Do you really feel the need to come on here and gloat to feel vindicated that you reported this?

Question: Given that the article mentioned that the PS4 returned to normal after being removed from the case, what made you say that this was any kind of "Death" scenario for the console?

YLOD and RROD were overheating issues that bricked their respective systems, whereas PS4's RLOD is simply a warning to tell the user to turn off their system. If one were to get it repeatedly, it's a good sing to either put it where it can breathe, or get warranty service from Sony.

Most of the videos on this particular article you're replying too seem to be related to a bad firmware patch. How exactly did you report that in your article?
VGscene  +   815d ago
We're not gloating. We'll let the number of bricked and D.O.A. consoles speak for themselves.
Underworld  +   815d ago
Shuhei didn't say the article wasn't true. He was asked if the "red line of death" on the PS4 is true and he said no, and he's right. It's not a "red line of death", it's just a warning light. There's a big difference. I'm assuming that's why he said not true.

Why did you call it "red line of death" when it's just a warning light and you say that yourself?
Hartsy  +   816d ago
I decided to get the Xbox one first because I was afraid of this, it looked too much like the old playstation 2 slim cooling vents, and that used to get very hot :/ il be getting it next year tho 😊
Fizzgig  +   816d ago
Yes, because the Xbox 360 didn't have any problems...
BattleTorn  +   816d ago
People, like you, keep mention the Xbox 360 as if it set precedent for hardware issues being a non-issue, or it's somehow an excuse/rebutal.

It wasn't a non-issue then, and it's not now.

The wrongs, of each system, don't excuse each other.
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Nocando  +   816d ago
I dont see anyone saying that the 360 had no problems. Who is saying this?
KingDadXVI  +   816d ago
I have not seen one comment on here saying the 360 did not have issues. I had two that ended up with RROD. The first ran for 2 years and I got replaced under warrantee and the replacement crapped out about 2 years after that. It was also replaced under warrantee. I have not had a problem since. It sucked and I was pissed but such is life.

The point @Hartsy is making is that he decided to go for an Xbox One because he felt the close confines of the PS4 design made him think there may be overheating issues. He felt safer going with the Xbox One for now as cooling was a major factor in the design of it. He is getting a PS4 next year when hopefully they have these issues resolved.

No one was bashing the PS4 so why are you bashing the 360?
Lzurha  +   815d ago
Microsoft is a safer bet they are known to have top notch hardware lmao
LoveSpuds  +   816d ago
I am sure it is very isolated but if it is you who is affected then that really has to suck!

Sympathies to anyone out there who has been affected, I know I would be gutted!

Same goes for the XB1 customers next week, there are going to be failures, all you can do is hope that it doesn't affect you I guess.
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UncleGermrod  +   816d ago
yikes. i would think it is just isolated, as all products are bound to suffer from some level of hardware failure. as long as sony fixes the consoles it ok i guess. but i sure hope it wont be an issue going forward.
mrpsychoticstalker  +   816d ago
Woooooooooow. Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!! I feel sad for my ps4 fanboy friends. :(
Drekken  +   816d ago
You would think if this is a true issue then xbox fans would flock to Sony. It was acceptable for MS, it will be acceptable for Sony. right?
SuicideKing  +   816d ago
Sucks hopefully people get their consoles replaced quickly without much hassle.
1nsomniac  +   816d ago
Where the hell have these people got this 0.4% figure from???

The console has been out a DAY who is it you think magically has this report that they have gone around collecting all the data with these figures on it, in not even 1 single day!!?? morons!
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Software_Lover  +   816d ago
they have triple doctorate degrees in analyzing.
nick309  +   816d ago

Official sony comment.
1nsomniac  +   816d ago
Oh wow it's worse than I thought. If Sony have publically gave it a magical number which in the first place is completely impossible to even judge then it has to be worse than initially thought.

I'm genuinely starting to get a bit worried about my pre-order now.. I'm still finding it massively unlikely/near on impossible that Sony would say this before it's even launched.

It's not even physically possible to ascertain that figure, surely this statement is fake!??
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monkeyfox  +   815d ago
There is usually a mathematical equation for failure rates on consumer electronics. I think with consoles its around 2-3 percent.
KNWS  +   816d ago
Been saying it for weeks and i have got lots of disagrees from Sony fans. The PS4 casing is very small, so most of the heat is been funnelled inside, the console and, it could lead to issues over time.

Often it could take weeks or months, for systems to fail. But, this very quick, quicker than i assumed.

There is a reason the XB1 is much bigger than the PS4, it wasn't a design choice, it was to make sure the heat got properly ventilated out and not repeat the 360 launch mistakes.

Orange@ Yes it would, happened with the 360, you turn it on the green would show for a bit, suddenly a minute or a few minutes, the red rings would show and flash.
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OrangePowerz  +   816d ago
It's not overheating. One of them was doing that out of the box and there is no way that would overheat instantly.
Christopher  +   816d ago
And all those devkits that are the same size and haven't overheated?

Fairly certain this is more to do with an issue with 1.5 patch on some and causing issues where it prevents the fan from coming on.
Kayant  +   816d ago
This. If it was a heating issue you think it would be this isolated??? Almost every PS4 would have a problem considering where most people will be keeping their consoles. Also the lights were pulsating three times based on the first report from Vgscene the light shouldn't be pulsating & there should be a warning on the screen.

"and there was a message on the screen that said the console’s temperature was too high"
T2  +   816d ago
dude are you being serious right now or just a professional troll? .4% is AMAZING for a fail rate on electronics... Even if it climbed to 2% it would be great.

here is a sample article on phones:

The study lasted 12 months, and tracked 600,000 tech support calls handled by WDS. Of all the technical support calls for Android phones 14 percent of the calls were due to hardware failure. In a close second is Windows Phone with 11 percent of calls, Apple’s iOS had seven percent, and RIM’s BlackBerry had the least with only six percent. It should be noted that the operating systems with the highest failure rate are also the ones that do not make hardware.

Read more:
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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   815d ago
Ahhhhhhhhhh. I know this denial all to well. We went through it with our 360's RRoDing all over at launch. Yet we didn't want to believe it! And then it was a problem. Everything is really reversed this gen. Ha ha ha.
monkeyfox  +   815d ago
Its not an over heating issue like RROD. This is a manufacturing "one off" fault or firmware problem more like it.

We were always going to get these articles, we'll get the same when xbox one is released. We have around 2 billion people using the internet and out of all the first adopters of PS4 you are bound to get a few failures and these failures will naturally get posted on you tube when they happen. It doesnt mean its wide spread, the internet has got a habit of amplifying things.

People saying they are going to cancel their orders should if they want to but you are always going to get a small failure rate with consumer electronics. Its the name of the game im afraid...
badboy776  +   816d ago
Why post on youtube??????
Guelly0209  +   816d ago
Because the internet.......
crazysammy  +   816d ago
This is getting so blown out of proportion its really sad.
speedforce131  +   815d ago
I don't know why people are downvoting you but after coming from IGN, yes it is being blown out of proportion, especially by Xbots, it's a field day for them. They're trolling everywhere they possibly can.
crazysammy  +   815d ago
The disagrees don't bother me. What bothers me is that I do enjoy reading articles (and comments) but lately there is so much hate and negativity that these sites are becoming almost unreadable.

Im not some hippie fruit asking for world peace here, but some civility goes a long way. We are all gamers and should be able to come together with our love of our hobby.
gamingisnotacrime  +   816d ago
USER #1: "My PS4 broke!"
Witness: "Quickly to the internet, forget the warranty and % of failure from all units shipped!!!"
Media website: "PS4 is DOOM, RLD just around the corner!!!!"

Gamers: " -_- "
andibandit  +   816d ago
Sony Fanboys: "you must suffer in silence and keep your tongue, we must preserve the illusion that everything is perfect"

Next week it will be ms fanboys.
gamingisnotacrime  +   816d ago
not silence needed

i want to know when the failure rate is out of industry stndards. other than that is all good
T2  +   816d ago
whats even sadder is you are getting disagrees from obvious trolls when you literally posted exactly what is happening.
Electronics fail. Unless there is documented proof that the PS4 has a high failure rate, above 10 percent or more (the norm) then GTFO
True_Samurai  +   816d ago
My GF just just got the RLD on hers moments ago will update on the situation. She's on hold on the phone with company. She's really pissed

Also fellow x1 fans please do not troll them. This is a serious situation those guys waited months for this day to come to only end up disappointed. Remember we had a hard time when the 360 first came out.

UPDATE: Did a hard reset on it when she went in the other room all is good. Menu came up and everything
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Ketzicorn  +   816d ago
It could have just been an indication it was overheating and needed to be turned off and cool down. Mine I had on for 8 hours straight and it was barely warm.
True_Samurai  +   816d ago
but i dont get how it is over heating. it's not in a closed spaced.
g4me_he4d  +   816d ago
Good to hear but I which that all these consoles would just work out of the box and negate the need for day 1 updates. It just feels like both companies are just rushing to get customers on board instead of creating a stable system.
speedforce131  +   815d ago
what was the room temp?
g4me_he4d  +   816d ago
If all these reports are real I am sensing that there is going to be a major sh*t storm in a week. It seems that both hardware and software are the cause for all these problems. Whether isolated or not these reports started before the release and can only get worst as there are more PS4 consoles out in the wild.
ELpork  +   816d ago
Yea, shit breaks, deal with it.
KillrateOmega  +   816d ago
There will be isolated incidents of failures when the Xbox One launches. Furthermore, just like here, you'll see everybody and their mothers coming out of the woods to blow this out of proportion.

**** happens. It's not the end of the world.
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MasterCornholio  +   816d ago
I can imagine the media screaming about the return of RROD.

All it takes is just one failure and everything blows up.
Dee_Cazo  +   816d ago
I can see the users on N4G not showing nearly as much calmness if/when this happens to the XB1.

i.e. 13 year olds cheering as if it has any bearing on their lives.
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