As the launch of PlayStation 4 and Xbox One draws near, the marketing is getting aggressive on both sides. Microsoft recently tweeted a new picture stating "Xbox One has the best games".
Depends on what you like really but I have to admit the launch does have a good verity. For me though, in the long term, I think Sony have the better haul. Especially with the first-party devs like Naughty Dog working on titles.
Not to mention a lot of the big exclusive XB1 titles show up on PC. So I can still get my fix of a few of them there (Titanfall for example).
Exactly that's where I'm happy to own a gaming PC because it means I don't really need an X1 apart from the games which they keep on console but for the most part It should be ok.
What other games will be on both pc and xb1? Not trolling. Just cant think of any.
MS may have the best games according to some people (it's an opinion after all) but let's wait until tonight's announcement before we discuss who has the best games. I'm not worried though, Sony has always provided in the gaming department, while the competition buys exclusives and DLC
That is Sonys strong point. But right now to talk about the long haul, that is pointless... who knows what will be done down the road. MS has invested heavily in new studios, and if they sell well, and they will, others will want a piece of that pie too. But that will not be enough for some... who will instinctively shout rubbish as a kneejerk reaction.
@Cerebral - my other favorite MS IP Alan Wake showed up on PC (even though I played it on the 360), so an inevitable Alan Wake 2 may still appear on PC, who knows. Titanfall is the only XB1 game I am really looking forward to though. Never been a huge fan of Forza (or racing games for that matter)..
The best game claim is just an opinion thing. Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, and Forza 5 look like great games and Ryse looks pretty. The problem with their claim is that for a person like me, who disliked Dead rising 1 and 2, isn't a fan of racing games, and while KI was fun when I was a kid the new KI doesn't do much for me. So for me the Xbox One doesn't have anything that would interest me right now. That's why I am buying a ps4. The ps4 has a lot of F2P games that I want to play and know are good, it has indie titles that I want to try, I am interested in Knack, and I think Killzone is a fun series. For me PS4 is easily the best choice but even that is just my opinion. What isn't opinion is the fact that the ps4 is more powerful than the Xbox One. You really wouldn't expect that difference to show at the launch of these consoles, but the fact that it does is very telling. Going forward developers will learn how to make games for the Xbox One better, but they will also be learning how to make games for the PS4 better. So this gap we are seeing isn't going to go away. Microsoft can make opinion based appeals all they want, but it is the hard facts that matter.
@cleft - your statement was valid and even levelheaded until you started up that last paragraph. Jesus, give it a rest. Nobody denies that the system is more powerful than the XB1. But the 3DS takes a statement like that and spits in the face of the Vita everyday. It's the games that matter, and if the XB1 ends up with the better games then it will sell better. Likewise with the PS4. Power helps, but it's hardly the deciding factor.
looks like someone is happy with the berries they gathered... while sony is laughing in the kitchen as they are cooking up a Storm. oh look and my ps3 is still getting lots of love :)
cool Xbox, let's see what you've got next week and what you can do against tonight's reveals. and you guys better react!!
Both consoles will get better with time. The Xbox One being harder to develop for has more room for improvement. The gap will shrink as developers learn more techniques and the tool sets improve. With 1080p and 60fps being the goal, Sony is already closer to that realization. Microsoft has a little further to go.
The best games is strictly opinion based. For me, I prefer multiplayer games and a lot of my friends have Xbox's, so I'm getting an X1. Uncharted, Last of Us, excellent top tier games, but I'm not huge on mostly single player driven games. Yes they have an online feature, but it's not like gears, halo, killzone, cod, BF, etc. Cross platform games, I prefer playing them through Xbox Live. There's no doubt that Sony has excellent first party games, but we've yet to see the potential of Titanfall and Halo is down the road, hopefully a new Gears of War also. Of course both companies will claim the best games. What else are they supposed to say? It's called marketing. Car companies take shots at each other also so what's the big deal? Both systems will have excellent games.
Neonridr "Nobody denies that the system is more powerful than the XB1. But the 3DS takes a statement like that and spits in the face of the Vita everyday. It's the games that matter, and if the XB1 ends up with the better games then it will sell better. Likewise with the PS4." Under hardly any circumstances is the PS4 vs X1, the same thing as 3DS and Vita. However if you do want to compare, the key elements on why the Nintendo handheld sells more is because it's cheaper and has more exclusives. And PS4 has both of those things in the bag.
I admit, the PS4's launch line up is kinda lackluster since Drive Club got delayed and the Xbox One's shows more variety...but knowing Sony, I always expect them to bring their best in the generation later on and the PS3 proved this. I think Sony's plan changed up and moved their early best games till 2014 with Drive Club, Infamous, and 1886...also PlanetSide 2 comes out next year for the PS4. It's too early to declare a "winner" and I see good times and bad times with both Sony and Microsoft. It's going to be the one consistent with exclusives that will stand out more. Competition is always good, that's why both sides turned around and are trying their best though Microsoft has to do a lot more to make me change my mind about them. @VENOMACR Welcome back man, I thought I wrecked you 3 months ago? http://n4g.com/news/1333916... But it's cool you came back making sense now. We need that more on N4G.
This is funny, but it's not very smart. Say it after Drive Club was delayed and then it's a good little jab. But to say it the day before Sony have a launch event in which games are very likely to be announced isnt the smartest.
you won't get dead rising 3, forza 5, halo, ryse: son of rome, and tons of other.
the funny part is that microsoft clearly bought up a few exclusives just for launch. wait and see years down the road how lacking they become in exclusive titles like they did with the 360 in the past few years. oh wait kinect titles count!...NO they dont
MS rushing exclusives out the door does not = better games at launch? Yeah that's not delusional. Their 4 top launch titles are Ryse, DR3, Killer Instinct and Forza 5 (prologue it was it should be called). ALL of them are being rushed. KI developer interviews say it all. They are still working around the clock just to have (hopefully) 8 character ready for launch. 8 characters. Let that sink in. Less than the original 20 years ago and less modes to boot. Ryse has changed direction 3 time and hardware once. This is a game that went from GOW competition to a Kinect game on rails to an X1 game that is has been worked on around the clock to make it more of a combat game vs one or 2 button presses than right to QTE game they showed at E3. It is not running at a stable 30fps. DR3 not my type of game but okay graphics and not running at stable frame rates. Quite the opposite from reports. Some claim it runs pretty rough in some areas. Dead Rising 3 I'm not going to claim is rushed. Maybe it is what it is and they just need more experience with X1 hardware. But could they have pulled off a better performing game if they had more time? Forza 5 (my favorite game on MS hardware and one of my favorite racing games made) 1/2 the tracks and 2/5ths the cars of Forza 4. Half the content of Forza 4. Again, let that sink in. No triple panel support, no backward compatibility with FFB wheels and the official wheel being made by Thrustmaster doesn't have a clutch and stand alone shifter ready for launch. This game is screaming WE NEED MORE TIME! I'm not alone on this. Yeah there are some die hard fans that want it regardless but there are just as many that are fed up with Turn 10. Funny how they have DLC cars ready for launch that will cost additional money. With a game that cut 300 cars and went from 25 tracks to 14 from Forza 4 to 5? This game should be $39.99 and I'm being kind. Either that or Turn 10 should give out all the DLC for free. MS, I'm sorry, I'm being rude. You were saying? I mean seriously. MS of all companies, a company that all but turned their back on their core base to chase after Nintendo's base with Kinect, is going to talk about having the best games? Yeah MS you did a fantastic job the first few years with the 360 and games but then it nearly turn into the Sahara Desert. You talk the talk but you're not walking the walk when you're rushing games out the door. Edit: Disagree but can you counter most of my points? What's that? You can't? Figured as much.
Yep but you won't be playing those games on console so its not the same.
Even though I'm grabbing a PS4 first, I really want to Try Killer Instinct. I wish NeatherRealm bought out the I.P, to incorporate it into MK.
"[Also] show up on PC" True... But how many people's PCs can actually handle any of those games at or better than the console version?
Xbox one has the best games' this has been the marketing slogan for quite a while now, don't see why this has been picked up as a witty reply.
PS3 has the best games.
@Brutally, Because you asked, Microsoft has been in this gen longer and they are using more "dated" tech. Logic would dictate they have been developing the Xbox One longer, not rushed. Killzone: http://www.metacritic.com/g... Knack: http://www.metacritic.com/g... I don't see any indication either of these is rushed, but neither is more than average so far. Maybe that will improve as more reviews come out, maybe not. If I had to pick, I'd rather have a better game that was "rushed" then a game that had all the time in the world but was simply ok. We will see how the reviews go next week when the Xbox releases, maybe they will be average there too. Either way, what is the point of calling Microsoft games rushed if the Sony games are uninspiring? As for the list of killer Sony exclusives that have come out the last few years, what do we have? Uncharted. The Last of Us. Gran Turismo. Killzone. DCUO maybe? I'm sure there are more, but these are the core games that appeal to a broad range of gamers. It's not like Sony cranks out a great triple A game every couple months.
No one cares Microsoft, go hide in the basement.
Some XB1 games will appear on PC. But being a PC gamer, I know fine well the majority of console games do not come to PC. So the argument I'll just get a PS4 because I'll get the XB1 games on PC, doesn't hold much water.
And whatever Remedy are making too will be on PC.
Agreed. I think Microsoft is starting with a bang but lets see how long they keep bringing us these exclusives. They did the same with Xbox 360, launched it with exclusives and then abandoned it after a few years while Sony kept giving us exclusives. I mean the best exclusive by far on PS3 was "The Last of Us" and it was released this year. Not to mention games like Beyond, Puppeteer, Rain and GT 6 show that Sony never abandons their consoles.
not really sure why you have disagree's. what you stated here is a fact lol ms started with gears, halo, forza, lost oddesy, banjo, blue dragon, enchanted arms, crackdown, chrome hounds, alan wake, too human, fable, halo wars, kameo, ninja gaiden 2, PDZ, viva pinata, etc.... most of those were 2005-2010. then they just stopped with new ones, brought us the same 4 ( halo, gears, fable, forza ) over and over again with a handful of kinect games nobody cares about and the occasional arcade game.
Sony on PS4 like last generation on PS3 started slow, so take your pick. Do you want games now, or games later. Personally, I take launch games now on Xbox One. After all, after a while 3rd party games are a plenty so I have consistent new games the entire time instead of being back loaded. It is early on, that the new consoles need games, when there are few.
everyone got games now . it's just a matter of how , and how many of a prefered type . But let's not act as if someone is going to deprive themselves from the multiplatform titles just because .
@nuke idk about that, they have killzone know, infamous coming soon, w/e they announce tonight, driveclub in the spring, DCU online for ps4 if thats your thing, updated injustice, AC4, BF4 and COD too. there is plenty to play for now, plus the current gen is still going strong. its also really obvious sony is doing what the other two failed to do, they are listening to the gaming community and hardcore fans and continuously delivering on what the people seem to be asking for. im a supporter of all systems and even up until this week was backing the X1 as my primary but it looks like sony is set to dominate this next gen., its hard to deny that at this point. if i didnt know any better, id say they actually have people researching on gaming websites and social media to see what the people want. i have a feeling games, games, and more games is their top priority and with that in mind, i dont think they will have a dry spell nearly as long as ps3 did.
lol Qwark you are speaking to deaf ears. He just wants to justify why exclusives only matter in the beginning and why we don't need them at the end. He claims it's because 3 party games are plenty at the end of the life cycle, but the funny thing is there are plenty of 3 party titles coming to the XB1/PS4 within the first year alone too, BUT that STILL won't make him admit that there should be a steady stream exclusive games for a console throughout it's life cycle though. Why you ask? Because that would mean admitting the MS has under-delivered in that department in the later of half of the 360 which is something he doesn't want to acknowledge.
@Captain Qwark 9: Most of the games you mentioned aren't for me. Of Sony franchises I enjoyed are Uncharted and Last of Us i.e. Naughty Dog games. Third party games, I'm only interested in CoD. BF4 campaign looks interesting, but I burned myself really bad on BF3 campaign. "if i didnt know any better, id say they actually have people researching on gaming websites and social media to see what the people want. i have a feeling games, games, and more games is their top priority and with that in mind, i dont think they will have a dry spell nearly as long as ps3 did." I think what Sony really did was hire a great marketing company and fix the shortcomings of PS3. From a next generation standpoint, the PS4 really doesn't push the bar. In many ways, the Wii was really the next generation console of it's time despite it's lacking in specification department. This time around it is just more of the same. @Outside_ofthe_Box: "BUT that STILL won't make him admit that there should be a steady stream exclusive games for a console throughout it's life cycle though. Why you ask? Because that would mean admitting the MS has under-delivered in that department in the later of half of the 360 which is something he doesn't want to acknowledge." It is pointless to discuss this, as if there are plenty of exclusives and none I want to play it wouldn't matter. Point being, I don't care if they are exclusives or not. I only care if I have games I'm want to play and willing to buy. MS strategy seems to work for me, and Sony's strategy means I'm waiting, and passing the PS4 pre-order to a family member instead until something tickles my fancy.
@nukeitall The thing about the games now or games later logic is that at the end of a console cycle...the hardware gets used to it's max potential. So if you get games now but not later, you'll rarely see what the console can truly create later on. The only games that showed the Xbox 360's true power was Halo 4, Forza 4, and Gears 3 & Judgement but the PS3 had Uncharted 3, God of War: Ascension, Beyond 2 Souls, The Last of Us, and more. (All after 2010) PS4 might start out slow like the PS3, but Sony starts picking the pace, and Naughty Dog/Santa Monica still needs to present their games, both are top tier. Pick what you like, but I'm going for the one that keeps promises when it comes to gaming...getting a PS4.
@nukeitall ***"It is pointless to discuss this, as if there are plenty of exclusives and none I want to play it wouldn't matter. Point being, I don't care if they are exclusives or not. I only care if I have games I'm want to play and willing to buy."*** Ok then. Why not just say that then. Why try to act and pretend as if having more games in the beginning as opposed to the middle or end of the life cycle is any better when in actuality it all the depends if the games appeal to you or not. You say Sony strategy means you're waiting, but how? You just said it all depends if the games appeal to you are not. If lets say Sony had stacked the PS4's launch line up with KZ, Knack, Infamous, Drive Club, Deep Down, and The Order 1886 all being available at launch it wouldn't have made a difference to you since none of the games appeal to you right? So it has little to do with their "strategy" and it's not that "new consoles need games early on, when there are few" it's just that none of the games revealed so far appeal to you while on the other hand, the XB1 has plenty of revealed titles that do in fact appeal to you.
@Outside: "Ok then. Why not just say that then. Why try to act and pretend as if having more games in the beginning as opposed to the middle or end of the life cycle is any better when in actuality it all the depends if the games appeal to you or not." Cause he's a lying fanboy.
ms has more launch first party games and thats an advantage...but the quality of these games remain to be seen. just as sony has had some bad reviews id expect ms to have then...but simply because launch games always get bad reviews. down the road hell even as soon as 2014 sony has a better future as far as upcoming games are concerned. alot of top quality devs have yet to even announce their games as well. we know ms has halo5 and titan and im sure they will be great but both being fps takes away some depth. we know sony will have better multiplats also...to have more launch games is a win for ms not for gamers. gamers play for the generation and considering how ms treated the xbox original and xbox 360 in their last years id expect them to do the same to the x1. time will tell though i got my money on sony in the long run.
If you count day 1 downloadable games then PS4 has more games day 1
Well M$ is saying they have the best games, not the most. I think we should wait on the reviews to see if the media agreed, because those will be used as the grading standard by people on both sides. M$ had been making that claim for a while though. Way before the reviews.
I thought DL games don't count? At least that's what Sony fans lead us to believe the past couple of years.
Not to mention free to plays. I've seen some recent articles saying MS is working on some Free to plays too in their new studios, but seeing as indies and f2p games don't count as games anymore judging from these comment sections in the past then I guess they'll be released as duds. .....but of course that won't happen I think we'll see a sudden change of heart with some people. ;).
@solidt12; you don't count any games at the end of MS-360 cycle and they have a ton of great downloadable games that are great on Xbox live. Sony fan boys only seam to give credit when it matters to them and not reality.
Quality games like Ryse will wipe the smug look of Sony's face! ;)
Until next year........ And then ND will wipe the smug looks of everyone's faces....even their own.
The problem with RYSE is that it's just a good looking game. Crytek is very good at that, I played RYSE and found it boring but that's mine opinion. Some sites like eurogamer are reporting that RYSE is boring also, others like it, just like Killzone...
Polysoft will rate it high thats for damned sure, but I'm not sure how well it's going to do with the rest. It seems like it could go the killzone route and be nice to look at but apparently lack in some areas.
Come back and talk to us on the day Ryse is reviewed.
@ lukas lmao at "even their own". crazy thing is tho, im pretty sure ND has actually done that before :o
I wonder what will happen if we bring this topic up next year at this exact same date?
Other than Forza, I don't expect any of Microsoft's launch exclusives to be that well received either. Ryse could very get the same scores as Knack, Dead Rising 3 will likely sit around the high 70's, I don't even know who reviewers will approach Killer Instinct. I do hope Spark lives up to its promise though.
I actually think RYSE will be rated very well....mainly from its visuals and story. Forza is Forza so that's going to get good scores. DR3 will get mixed, average around a 7 in my opinion. But MS shouldn't be so quick to gloat (or maybe they should seeing as they haven't been doing well with exclusives since 2010). 2014 is going to be a very good year for PS4 and tonight we will get some juicy reveals hopefully. It just doesn't make sense to me to gloat you have the best games when your main competitor is KNOWN for its dedication and focus for pumping out quality exclusive titles.
I think, since there is little hype and downright hostile towards Ryse it might surprise. It might be a sleeper hit, based on the positive previews. That said, most excited for Titanfalls, Quantum Break, Project Spark and Sunset Overdrive.
Dunno , call it my bias showing , but i dont expect nearly half the same nitpicking for some of the XB1 launch games . i expect mostly positive press for bad and good reasons alike . The hostility was mostly in comments , and a few fanboy blogs , not really the common press and mainstream gaming press . Just look at cod , it will get passes against anything else being nitpicked for similar or lesser flaws (whatever the platform)
@Baka-akaB I get what you're saying, but to be fair Call of Duty: Ghosts is sitting at a 74 on metacritic. I'm sure some would like to see it closer to 30, but recently reviewers seem to be cracking down on scores. For instance, I think the biggest reason Killzone: Shadow Fall has gotten such mixed reviews is because its the showpiece game for the PS4 and it doesn't do anything "next gen." I've played the other three Killzone games, and the story has always been hammy with interesting themes that have ultimately been underdeveloped. Still, KZ2 has a 91 rating on metacritic and KZ3 is sitting at 84. Unless the multiplayer is really lacking, I'm confident that KZ:SF will be the best entry in the series. My guess for Xbox One review scores: Crimson Dragon - 68 Dead Rising 3 - 79 Forza 5 - 87 Killer Instinct - 77 LocoCycle - 72 Ryse - 71 Project Spark - 83
Those who say msbisnt investing in games this time around are just plain silly..ms has invested major box into their old studios,formed new studios, been hiring great talent and also securing third party exclusives..if rumors are true then also we should be expecting some major announcments frm ms 1st party studio in japan and also third party dev exclusives too ...many ms 1st party titles are still yet to be revealed and already people claim ms has nothing more...its crazy how people reason..has anyone seen the probable xbx one titles coming out next year?(kinect sports, sunset overdrive, halo5, quantum break, fable legends and black tusks ip)..ms post launch line up is even better than the its launch line up..and they are yet to announce more...ms isnt in to loose..they are in to fight for the top spot and if anything it seems ms has realised the importance of 1st party ips...not saying sony wont come out too with their great titles too..i know ssm, nd and sony japans games will be a blast to play but its too soon to judge and declare a winner..both companys will fight it out the best way they can....imo and from what i have noticed to entice devs this gen sony will rely less on cash but more on loyalty and old relationships with major devs..while ms will might rely less on relationships with devs but majorly on cash...its my opinion though...lets just keep our fingers crossed and enjoy the show
If you wanna kill bunch of Helghast, PS4 has it. If you wanna destroy MAWLR's, PS4 has it The all Titan's from Titanfall can't stand against MAWLR.
i do not like MS. i do not like Windows. I do not own a 360, or will ever buy a Xbox One. but Titanfall is their killer IP. once it hits, and the word goes around to the casual console gamers about who made Titanfall, it will sell a lot of Xbox One's.
and PCs, and XB360s
Mr. Chozen i plan on buying it for PC. but Titanfall really does have the potential to bring many people to the Xbox One.
I think it would have the potential IF it wasnt coming to the 360 and PC, thats the problem, you dont need to upgrade your pc for a game running on source and you dont need to upgrade the 360 because it will be on that as well, either way you look at it you are saving $500.
And the games will get better as the Devs learn how to use more of its power.
I remember microsoft's bait and switch tactics with the 360. the launch and early years had great games but after that it was the same forza and halo games over and over.
xbox has the best variety of games..day one paid off for me!!! Yes i am getting my ps4 tonight...yawn....
Wow! A thoughtful post! Xbox will have the better games until at least spring. By next Xmas we shall see. I still think Xbox is gunna be the best place for online gaming while Sony destroys them on the single player front
Who the hell know's that. There's no reviews for exclusive games and there third party games are going to be at most the same or less than the PS4 games. From previews of the launch games for Xbox One there is nothing to get excited about. Microsoft may be the only one's saying that after launch. There's a whole generation ahead of us no one can say whose got the best games yet.
The problem with Microsoft has always been great exclusives in the first year, followed by a barren wasteland of crap.
"Xbox One has the best games." The worst way to support this claim is to show a picture of Ryse, surely?
Honestly, I can see x1's launch games being better overall. That's no