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Sony's Shuhei Yoshida admits Disappointment with PS4 First Party Title Review Scores

We are recently hearing of the growing mixed reviews of some of PS4's launch games specifically Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack. While Resogun ultimately got positive scores, Yoshida-san admits great dissatisfaction with the scores of the flagship titles Killzone and Knack. Yoshida says that, despite this, it should not affect PS4's launch that much. The following article probes on Yoshida-san's interview with GamesIndustry International. (Killzone: Shadow Fall, Knack, PS4, Resogun, Shuhei Yoshida)

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Ksar   820d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(3)
Malice-Flare  +   820d ago | Well said
i only hope they're as harsh to XB1 games as they are here. any leniency towards will reveal their bias...

unfortunately, that will also generate clicks...
osprey19  +   820d ago
Come on, lets face it xb1 got more awards for its games than anyone in history. And lets face it knack is designed for young kids, and as good as killzone is 8/10 by many reviewers, its a game that many fps fans are either playing cod or battlefield 4. But u Neva knw Sony might announce a cool exclusive or two.
listenkids  +   820d ago
What awards? Because E3 awards mean shit, look at Swtor.
osprey19  +   820d ago
Errrm games that got a ton of awards at games conventions tend to have high it does mean something
tigertom53  +   820d ago
Titanfall has taken home the The Future award at Tokyo Game Show!
GamesCom Best Next Generation Console Game: Titanfall Award
Best Racing Game: Forza Motorsport 5
Just to name a few
mikeslemonade  +   820d ago
And where do those games sit in the Amazon rankings? 10 PS4 items in the top 10.

Even on N4G the xbox camp talks more about Forza and Ryse in comparison to Titanfall. If I was getting a X1 I'd get Titanfall over anything.
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LeCreuset  +   820d ago
So Knack is designed for young kids (Why is that exactly? It's cartoony? Are Mario, Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet and Clank designed for young kids?) and this should somehow impact its review score? Honestly, the only shots I ever hear taken at Knack around here are the "it's kiddy" talking point.

As for Killzone, are we really saying that we think the mess that is COD: Ghosts deserves a better rating?
osprey19  +   820d ago
I dnt like cod or bf4. Im just saying people who are fans of fps will be playing them, and if killzone 2 was anything to go by, the sequal wont kill either of them.

And knack? When i say kiddy, i mean that's its target audience. Older people will play it but not enough to consider it an overwhelming success.
But back to my main point, launch wise, xb1 simply has the better games. Case closed.
mikeslemonade  +   820d ago
I don't care about launch. It could have launched with no games and I can still go on PS+ and play games for free.

And even with what you said. It works in PS4's favor in regards to multiplatform games since PS4 is the cheaper system. The gamer will likely look at the PS4 first before they consider the alternative if they want to play COD, BF, or AC.
Computersaysno  +   820d ago
Good lord.

Its a launch review with a couple dozen games out. If you are buying the machine based on its launch titles you would never have bought a PS2.

But it is at least better than the PS2 launch.

The consoles don't usually get any sort of momentum games wise until at least 12 months after they launch
frostypants  +   820d ago
Every PS4 exclusive launch title could get 0s, and I still wouldn't spend $100 extra dollars for the One hardware. Sorry. I'm buying hardware right now. Nobody can deny that the software will be there for both systems.
nukeitall  +   819d ago
I think Xbox One has a killer launch lineup, and Titanfalls in March next year, it is something to really look forward to.

KZ Shadowfall is the only game I'm interrested in on PS4 of all games shown, and that turned out to be a dud as evident by the poor metacritic score of 74%:

I'm decided to give my pre-order to a family member instead that loves Sony. I will get a PS4 when I see something interesting.
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WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   819d ago
You don't care about launch because you don't have anything to care about for launch, lol. Have as seat...
ftrain  +   819d ago
You must be living under a rock to not understand that titanfall got more than half of those awards, and it's not even an exclusive, if you actually took away titanfall awards ps4 launch exclusives actually got 3 more awards. I also wouldn't be talking about awards at E3 when Sony usually wins most of them every year(last year had a ton for the las of us). Sony exclusives also usually get rated higher, top 50 to 30 exclusives is highest on PS3 compared to 360 and wii.
DOOMZ  +   819d ago
That's right & in the end, its all about the games
Dasteru  +   819d ago

Meh, both Project Cars & GT6 look much better than Forza 5 imo.
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DragonKnight  +   819d ago
@Knack haters: You say that the game is "kiddy" in one breath, and yet would praise a kiddy game on the X1 in another. You also ignore that Knack is extremely difficult.

Don't judge a game by its boxart.
GadgetGooch  +   819d ago
Cheeseus, How many SONY fanboys in here are butt hurt lmao....
Dasteru  +   818d ago
Just to clarify my last post, i was talking about for gameplay, not visuals. Although Project Cars looks alot better than Forza 5 anyway. GT6 i just meant for gameplay.
sincitysir1  +   820d ago
Unfortunately it's gonna happen.
Vojkan  +   820d ago
they will not be harsh to X1. Remember how media was hidding RROD it issues for 2 years? Until MS admited.
US media is biased, I know it sounds imature but is really the case.
I like how they try to place PS4 as if it has no games. Ignore multiplatform games, focus on exclusives.
The point is, buying PS4 now or 1 years from now is the same, price won't change, maybe 50 bucks, but is it worth it. 50 bucks to skip on PS4 for a year? Don't think so.
Play multiplatform games for now (if you don't like exclusives) then get ready for huge exclusives from Jan going forward.
Very simple imo.

BTW watch Polygon give great score to Ryse
Ol_G  +   820d ago
Exclusives is a reason to buy consoles not multiplats
xPhearR3dx  +   820d ago
The reason media outlets are mentioning exclusives is because those are the games that are going to drive people to want to take the jump to next gen on day 1. Sure, there's all the sports games and COD/BF. But you can play those on 360/PS3. So at launch those exclusives are what differentiates the Xbox One and PS4.

People like me, I don't really care, I like being a first adopter. So I'm waiting for my PS4 to be delivered tomorrow. As a media outlet though, you have to look at all the angels and ask yourself. Is spending 400-500 dollars REALLY worth playing Killzone and Knack, or Forza and Dead Rising.

If not, as you suggested, it might be better to wait until January or even a little after that to make the jump to next-gen consoles.
Mystogan  +   820d ago
Ryse is a good game now.
Obscure_Observer  +   819d ago

Oh man, come on! As they did with Resogun and the Playstation 4 system?

The 5 to KSF seems unfair i do agreed. But, Knack? Check Eurogamer! Are they biased now too?

The only problem with Polygon by reviewing PS4 products is KSF. And that seems a isolated reviewer´s point of view. Man´s definitely sucks on FPS games. So, blame it on the entire Staff is equally unfair.

And what about Gameinformer and all the " fun as dialing cellphone numbers" crap? Seems fair for most users here. And what about that score given to Knack? 8.25? Talk about biased.

People has selective memory around here.
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GrandTheftZamboni  +   819d ago
Media are biased. Need proof? Minor difference in resolution last gen in favour of 360 was a big deal back then. This gen, 57% more pixels by PS4 is negligible.
BABY-JEDI  +   819d ago
Polygons choice of reviewer is unfortunate (as he has a history of disliking KZ). As this has resulted in a negatively skewed review. People who enjoy KZ mechanics will really enjoy Shadowfall. Others, not so much I guess.
Irishguy95  +   820d ago
So if X1 games score higher = Bias. Right

We all know X1 has a better launch line up that Ps4.

I personally epect Ryse to score ****, dead rising to score average like Killzone. And Forza/Killer instinct to score high

Polygon are extremely biased, MS could have no exclusives at launch and polygon would say they have better exclusives. However, regardless...MS have had the better launch lineup for months, especially after DriveClub got delayed. Deal with it. Don't deny it. We all know Sony has a better lineup next year. But Day 1, MS clearly has it. More games, more diverse set of genre, more AAA. Simple as that.

i've been saying Knack looks like crap for months, why? Because it looks like a poor, slow paced action adventure. Uninspired gameplay. It deserves those score. Ryse is confirmed to play like crap. Killzone is falling apart, they didn't know what to put in new, so they stuck in Slow mo and see through walls? Really? Dead rising, I never liked them for various reasons involving boring and repetitive. Now, Forza has always been a good racer, not as good as GT. But still good. Killer instinct just looks awesome. Overall a very dissapointing yet expected array of games for the console launchs. We have to wait till March

Infamous, Titanfall, Witcher 3. One of the best open world games ever, one of the best Shooters ever, and one of the best RPGS. Is what I predict

Also, I don't know why people keep bringing up polyhgon, they are not the only reviewer out their, they even gave Knack a 6, which is much higher than alot of reviewers. For both Knack and Killzone, the averages are very clear. Alot of reviewers believe them to be poor/average
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Hellsvacancy  +   820d ago
Polygon will agree with you i'm very sure
FullMetalTech  +   820d ago
You missed them streaming PS4 titles yesterday. They were really low blowing everything on the PS4. Very unprofessional and child like. Nothing constructive or even critisms about any of fhe titles just jokes and bad one liners. Id take anything they say with a grain of salt at this point.
One_Eyed_Wizard  +   820d ago
The better launch lineup claim is not a fact. It's opinion. Like you who sees the Xbox One launch lineup as the best, I see the PS4 launch lineup as the best but in truth, I think both are pretty weak. It's the games that are coming that I really want.
LeCreuset  +   820d ago
Have you ever heard of the fallacy known as a strawman argument? That's what you did. The point wasn't that if they score higher the reviews must be biased. The point was that the reviews are biased if those titles are reviewed with leniency.
Deltaguy  +   820d ago
hit the nail on the head..ps4s lackluster launch titles coming to bite sony in the ass..after watch dogs got delayed there was no reason to game on a ps4...knack and killzone is garbage and iv'e been saying for months that these games will flop....i was right lol
Prime157  +   819d ago
I think the over hype for the console clouded people's perspective on all these games. Everyone over hypes things and then the game can't live up to the hype, because your mind needs to be blown away.

Would be curious to see what these reviews would get if they came out on ps3 with ps3 graphics.
Blackdeath_663  +   820d ago
the polygon reviews are bogus and i think KZ was harshly criticised they didn't give COD have as much shit yet that game is broken but ultimately its not the end of the world
Mystogan  +   820d ago
Killzone is a shitty halo-wannabe and will always be shitty. I'm not sure why you guys expected anything else this time. Sure it has better graphics now. But good graphics only get you so far in a review.
DOMination-  +   820d ago
Shitty is a bit harsh. I feel its very generic and formulaic. Its certainly not as bad as 5/10 but an 8 seems fair.
solidjun5  +   820d ago
"Killzone is a shitty halo-wannabe and will always be shitty"

Shows how much you know, since KZ2 was highly received and KZ3 was decent. Unlike you, I actually played the games. So forgive us for expecting decent reviews. And it has received decent reviews.
frostypants  +   820d ago
KZ has always had it rough. Halo games comes out with very meh graphics that play like every generic shooter ever made: "10!!!". Killzone games come out with amazing graphics and have an unmistakable feel to them: "There's nothing unique about it...7". I don't get it. Well I DO get's payola...but I don't get why gamers are so easily fooled by it.

My dirty secret: I personally don't really like Halo OR Killzone. But I have played both series and Killzone has always had more going for it IMO. Halo...even the new ones...looks and plays like PC shooters from the 1990s.
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Boody-Bandit  +   819d ago
The ONLY thing Killzone and Halo have in common is they are shooters. If Killzone played like Halo I wouldn't buy it.

I have Halo burnout. It just hasn't evolved enough for me over the years. I got to the 3rd level of Halo 4, ejected the game and gave it to my son. He use to be a Halo fanatic. He finished the SP and played the MP maybe 12 hours online and than traded it in.

IMO Killzone is so much more fun to play than Halo. It's not even close. Again, in my opinion.
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kratos_TheGoat  +   820d ago
you sound mad not all have the same opinion as you wishing xbox games to be harsh what wrong with this site. I play ki, ryse & dr3 and all of them all fun games like kz sf
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FunkMacNasty  +   820d ago

If XB1 launch exclusives are better received by game critics then its "TOTAAAALLLL BIASSS MAN!!"

But if the tables were turned and Sony launch exclusives were better recieved you bunch of bitches would be all "GREEEEEATNESSSS AWAAAAAIIITS!!!!!!"

Two sensible points I'd like to make:

1.) These are launch titles. They're nothing more than slightly optimized versions of things we've already seen this generation. In two years PS4 games will be blowing our friggin' minds, once devs have a full picture of where they can really go with the hardware

2.) When a game or franchise you like gets a lower review score than you expected, It shouldnt hinder your enjoyment of said game. And If seeing your favorite game or console exclusive get a low score gives you the same feeling that you get when Your team makes it all the way to the championship and loses, then you are playing games for all the wrong reasons.
Objective  +   820d ago
So you have already decided that a good score for Xbox games must mean bias... Haha
mii-gamer  +   820d ago
that's a rather immature way to think. Enjoy your games, it does not need to be a competition all the time. Besides, launch games have never been special - PS4 is guaranteed to get awesome games in the future, if it hasn't got it already.
dboyc310  +   820d ago
Idk its the beginning of the cycle and let's not forget that sony kept pumping exclusives after exclusives these past few years. If xbox one lunch games do good then good for them. Infamous Second son is right around the corner and I'm pretty sure some unannounced games from sony studio's will be announced. At the start of a generation there are hardly any games that get 90+ it takes time my friends.
JamieL  +   819d ago
Excuses, all I hear in this thread is excuses. This whole time the PS4 has been portrayed as a totally FLAWLESS gamers wet dream in every conceivable way, the games were treated with the same hype, and now they’re out, and falling short of the hype that’s ok because _______. MS has been under a microscope by these same Sony apologist since the reveal, now excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses. Why not be so understanding with MS issues? I'm not saying I disagree with the excuses, I know Sony always pumps out games, but they're still excuses. The PS4 way supposed to be completely FLAWLESS, and now reviews are falling short, there are 100's of reasons this is 100% acceptable.
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jetlian  +   820d ago
Rin your making the assumption xbo games will be as bad as ps4's !

knack looked limited when it was first revealed
webeblazing  +   820d ago
They got the gfx part down now Sony need to learn how to execute. No matter how much I love their games they always lack that addictive gameplay that lesser quality games have. They need to bring so com back real socom . I bet someone name nauty dog games missing the point
Prime157  +   819d ago
Old socom would struggle in this shooter generation. Hence knack.

I play games to play what the dev is trying to give me. Maybe I'm just easily amused.
GraveLord  +   820d ago
Ryse already has bad first impressions.

DR3 has technical issues and seems to be just a souped-up 360 game(if that).

Forza 5 will probably be the best reviewed, but most don't care for the series since its turned into a yearly franchise.
CrossingEden  +   820d ago
Bias? Maybe higher review scores for xb1 title means *GASP* that it has better games. -_-
FunkMacNasty  +   820d ago

1080p upscaled from 720p!?! PREPOSTEROUS!


/s ;-)
Prime157  +   819d ago
Or the lack of hype for ms has games that surprise you.

It's all in the hype. I find myself loving games more when I have absolutely 0 hype for it.
MELMAN26  +   819d ago
But what if the xbox 1 games don't deserve it?
sAVAge_bEaST  +   819d ago
Oh it will reveal the bias.. And I will not click on a Polygon Article ever again, and I would use AdBlock if I were to.
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GT67  +   819d ago
@ rinkuchal this not directed at you. speaking in general.

"YOSHIDA disappointed with ps4 first party title review"

possibility: possibly gamers might be TIRED of killzone?? and dont understand KNACK?? im guessing here not knocking any consoles down.
this has nothing to do with which console have the most AWARDS who give a rat-ass how many awards games receives?? it is about FUN,gaming,winning,beating the game at the end of the game you saying: HELL YEAH!!! BRAGGING TO YOUR FRIENDS YOU BEAT IT.
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yeahokchief  +   819d ago
They're not being "harsh". They are doing their job...

I expected this. So many of the titles are yearly IPs that don't even require the added hardware power. I mean you look at a review by Totalbuscuit and he's just laughing at how the game has such steep requirements for the same gameplay with horrible textures in the latest CoD.

This is not exactly how you want to be quoted in the media about your games:

"The game wasn't designed [to meet specific] review scores," Yoshida continued. "I was hoping Knack could score in the mid-70s and last I checked it's around 59-60, so I'm hoping it goes up.

"The game uses only three buttons to play, so it's not the type of game reviewers would score high for the launch of a next-gen system.

So WHY are they asking us to fork over $400 for the tech now if they don't even have a single goddamn game worth playing on it?!?!?! Not to mention the networks with things like gaiki not even being ready until 2014?!


Sooooo glad i cancelled my PS4 preorder a few weeks ago. THEY HAD ME WITH THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE LAUNCH DATE. I had my preorder with amazon seconds after they announced it. But the games here are just DISMAL. ALL YEARLY CASHGRABS and only ONE solid first party game which apparently is only a 74% or slightly below average.

I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED with the launch window they chose instead of holding back for 2014 for games like watchdogs and other first party titles. I will be waiting for a bundle deal if I'm still playing games.

I might decide to build a PC instead or just quit the hobby entirely. Leaning towards being done with it entirely. Dark Souls 2 will be a good game to go out on.
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XboxFun  +   819d ago
I love it, the child mentality!

Sony fanboys actually hoping that Xbox One games score just as low.

If not this means the media is bias!!

You sony fanboys are way too funny. Metascors don't matter unless the score is high, every website is bias if they score your games lower, MS pays for every bad review, Xbox games should be scored lower or else it's an agenda against Sony.

C'mon, do you not see the absolute ridiculousness of all these statements. And yet you all claim your not conspiracy theorists?

So is it safe for me to say that if any Xbox One bad scores get reported that the media is biased, journalists are lazy or Sony paid them off...can I too use this excuse?
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CJDUNCAN  +   819d ago
but what if the games on x1 are really good, would you still consider it biased?
nosferatuzodd  +   819d ago
noop microsoft has polygon in there pocket and all that awards mean shit how can you award a game that no one plays its like bmw claiming to have a car that's better than everything out but guess what? no one tested it or drive it

edit XboxFun you're going to sit there and rant about Sony fanboys when microsft gives polygon 750.00 dollars just to be there when sony drops games and give it 6 and 5 out of 10 you're saying that's not the case who is the delusional; here

yeahokchie you're really going to quit gaming just because idiots say the games rank low why not play it for youre self and make up you re own mind damn follow on herds we the sheeple only listen to others and follow on
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yeahokchief  +   819d ago
No i'd quit gaming because its a huge waste of time and now it's just being milked by large publishers making rehashed AAA games that arent even fun to play

there are of course a few gems mixed in there that make all their bullshit easier to swallow but they are becoming few and far between.
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NewZealander  +   819d ago
its not a matter of being harsh, its in the consumers interest to give reviews based on the content, good or bad.

no way would i have pre ordered knack, its a game with no proven track record, and to be honest i don't care if its aimed at kids or not, the character designs are awful, and the graphics are about as average as it gets, i don't believe theres any bias going on, from all accounts the game is a flop.

killzone SF looks good, and i enjoyed KZ3, and its mostly getting decent scores, nothing to complain about there.
badkolo  +   819d ago
harsh, are you kidding me, if the games stinkl they stink,. plain and simple, your such a troll just by saying what you said
Ps4Console  +   819d ago
KillZone had mostly high scores it was only a couple of average scores & they were saying the game looked out of this world , I can't comment on Knack because I haven't seen the reviews on Knack .
Mister_Dawg  +   819d ago
Why should they be just as harsh to XB1 games?
The whole point should be about reviewing fairly.
Should it not?
pheature  +   819d ago
but sure its going to generate clicks anyway as people are already interested.
M-M  +   820d ago
After watching Yoshida play Knack on the live stream on hard difficulty, I really don't think it deserves the scores it gets(they could/should be higher).
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GentlemenRUs  +   820d ago
Give it a little bit of time, The scores will soon perk up :P

EDIT: It might be just community scores and an attack by fanboys :(

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Skate-AK  +   820d ago
I watched the stream of Knack and it looked great. Was just like a Pixar movie.
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Thehyph  +   820d ago
No joke, man.
I don't care what the reviews say about it. I think it looks dope. Every PlayStation has had these kind of 3D action platform games, and I hope the trend continues even if knack got burned.
Insomniac, Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog all (more or less) cut their teeth on these kinds of games, and look where they are now.
Moncole  +   820d ago
Knack looks incredibly dull. All its is a brawler that looks boring to play.
kratos_TheGoat  +   820d ago
blame the fanboy for hyping the shit up like knack are you serious.. knack is not new gen it has ps3 graphic all over it, and kz sf I hope does not play or feel like cod or I'm going be tight
sincitysir1  +   820d ago
Ur bouncing aroun here man. Are u for kz or not?!
kratos_TheGoat  +   820d ago
I got all kz series games and sf and all the review are saying it play like cod and feel the same. I judge this friday when i get my ps4
webeblazing  +   820d ago
I think the scores are do to the hype people hype these like the second coming. No matter what game it is if y'all hype games up to high people expectations are not gonna be met
pheature  +   819d ago
thats a good thing it does not play like cod.
ever since cod has came on the scene every shooter is trying to emulate cod like.
its not good
mdluffy  +   820d ago
Killzone:sf reviews aren't that bad, it got tons of 7's, 8's and 9's... people are focusing too much on that one troll review (those guys do that to get clicks and money)
pyramidshead  +   820d ago
Polysoft will always be a shill site though, they're not hiding it anymore lol.

Calling it now:
Ryse: 8.5
F5: 9.5
DR3: 10
LEOPARD1030  +   820d ago
LOL keep dreaming, Ryse is a QTE joke and DR3 looks very bad and stupid maybe a 4/10. Forza looks great could be a 9.
DOMination-  +   820d ago
Ryse 7
DR3 8
Forza 9
pheature  +   819d ago
ryse 7
f5 9
dr3 7
LEOPARD1030  +   820d ago
Killzone Shadow Fall is scored with 7.4 in Metacritic, this is very bad for a flagship title.

Three years of development and one year of waiting for a 7. Playing again a boring ISA linear campaign and a generic MP without vehicles, jet-packs or Exos.

The best review is from Eurogamer
mdluffy  +   820d ago
Not all scores are counted yet, it can very well go up too around 7.8-8.0
GrimWykydtron  +   820d ago
"MP without vehicles, jet-packs or Exos" go back to BF, lack of vehicles is one of the strongest point of any MP FPS game, vehicles are good for BF and thats about it, played 99% of fps out there and aside from BF series only tribes 2 got vehicles right.

PS. scores mean nothing... Black Ops 2 wa sgetting 9/10 all the time and we all know its just garbage 4/10 game. Not only scores are biased but about 70% of reviewers never play more then 30 minutes, all the info they have is from press materials they get witch review copies and that practise was confirmed many times over years on different sites and magzines.
LiQuiZoN  +   819d ago
Gotta LOVEEEE negative xbots. Trying to kill the Playstation fans hype like they did in 2004.

But...Guess what?

Our system is better and cheaper. No 1 year head start either. Don't support garbage companies like Microsoft. Otherwise they will bring the entire industry down. "Pay 2 Play" sound familiar? We can thank the xbox supports and Microsoft for that!

Glad Microsoft is selling off the Xbox division. All the XBL memberships will be worthless including the game collections!

Meaning your hardware will not be supported and your digital games will be worthless. Like buying a dreamcast game before they went under.

Anyway;...(StarCraft Reference) "GG"
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BABY-JEDI  +   819d ago
Play the game then complain. At least give yourself some credibility.
; )
Viper7  +   819d ago
Yeah, reviews have changed.

Nowadays you really need to be careful whose reviews you trust. Even the majority can be wrong, world wasn't flat eventough many experts said so in the past.
Arcanine  +   820d ago
Somebody's getting fired! Lol but yea that is a disappointment ...still getting kz
pyramidshead  +   820d ago
Well I feel for people who base their purchases on review scores. Glad I'm not one of them though, too many games enjoyed this gen that didn't get stellar right ups. Play the games and be your own judge I guess.
sincitysir1  +   820d ago
I agree but I still look at reviews. It's a safeguard for a lot of people. I recently played remember me which has an avg of like 6 I believe and I loved it just like I know I'll love kz. Kz merc was also all over the board and I loved that game! Enough to get 10k kills for the plat
Viper7  +   819d ago
Yeah, using reviews for safeguard from actually bad games is fairly good way to go.

Many of the 60%+ Meta-score games are actually pretty good. Maybe not worth their full value, but then again very few games are.

But below 60% should ring some bells as those games might actually have some serious problems.
Nujabes_  +   820d ago
I never expect launch games to receive good scores. Don't you guys remember last generation with Kameo, Perfect Dark, Lair? It was the same thing. Not sure why he's surprised.
Salooh  +   820d ago
Different situation here. You go to a site like ign and you will see GHOST 8.8 and shadowfall/BF4 8. Does that makes sense to you ?. If killzone is 8 then call of duty should be 5 for a next gen game. Yes , the gameplay in killzone is not a big leap like it's graphics but why the hell GHOST have better scores even though both gameplay and graphics are worst. So many wrong with media. No standard , I just look at them completely opinions without facts. If i see something looks good i will judge it my self this generation . Also ask who experienced it better then these medias..
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brometheos  +   820d ago
I'm still not convinced KZSF is only "good" and not great. Guerrilla has addressed pretty much every problem with it (aim lag, color palette, etc) yet reviewers still find something to pick at despite many saying its the best KZ yet. Maybe people were expecting to much, but its important to remember that its a launch game. I think it will really deliver.
nikrel  +   819d ago
i'm buying kz:sf
Ultraplayerxp  +   820d ago
I kind of expected the low reviews. Don't get me wrong, I wanted all the launch titles to get good scores but in the back of my mind I just felt like something like this would happen.
jessupj  +   820d ago
Considering that some media outlets were pathetically downplaying the resolution gap, I'm fully expecting them to be very lenient with their xbone reviews.

I just hope people can see past the BS and make up their own minds.
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The Meerkat  +   820d ago
Meh, won't stop me buying a PS4.

Just in time for War Thunder.
awesomeperson  +   820d ago
I don't think that any core gamer should really place too much weight on review scores.

There have been quite a few cases recently of games being reviewed lower by "journalists", but then have a great critical reception by fans.

I know that I'll be enjoying my PS4 games later this year - and I don't need a reviewer telling me I won't.
wenaldy  +   820d ago
Damn straight, War Thunder and Knack for me.
GenericNameHere  +   820d ago
Don't worry Yoshida, it's a marathon, not a sprint. We know games from Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica and others are coming. Plus, with the ease of development, developers like Square Enix can no longer say "ohh, but HD Towns are too hard and costly"! If they do, we can truly label them as incompetent and lazy developers who no longer have any of the glory they had from their years as Square.

Anyways, since PS4 reviews are now dropping and Xbone reviews are coming next week, I predict at least an 8.5 for Ryse from the highly reputable and respected Polygon! Just you wait, sir Gies will be talking about how the gameplay is miles ahead of the Batman Arkham series, and how the graphics are so crisp and smooth that he says 900p is the best thing ever, and surely beats any of those ugly 1080p PS4 games. Also, Ryse > God of War in terms of setting and aesthetics.

Polygon, defenders of the people, and savior of games journalizm even though they took $750K from Microsoft!
4lc4pon3  +   820d ago
I never buy a game based on reviews I buy what pleases me not listening to someones opinion. Like the killzone shadowfall review. They used a guy for the review who does not even like killzone at all.

I believe th review was at polygon.
Hufandpuf  +   819d ago
So if the review was good, would you be more excited for the game?
4lc4pon3  +   819d ago
No because I don't buy games based on reviews. I buy games because I want to play that specific title. Everyone has there own opinion like u could hate a game and I could love it or vice versa.

I think people listen to reviewers way to much. You should form your own opinion watch videos or buy it and experience it.
Hufandpuf  +   819d ago
Then what about games like Too Human, Duke Nukem, and Aliens Colonial Marines? Those games were hyped up yet turned out to be garbage just like the reviews said. If i didn't listen to reviews and bought those games id be very disappointed.
LiQuiZoN  +   819d ago

Reviews have been so skewed now lately anyway. They are just trying to push out reviews for hits. I've disagreed with the majority of reviews and will find out myself when I pick up both Knack and Killzone:SH.

Reviews said Battlefield4 was GREAT, but guess what? I just returned that buggy, crashing, piece of crap for my PC. Why didn't reviews tell me that the piece of trash crashes almost every damn game? (No its not my PC)

Remember reviewers are given early access by the companies. This means the companies have to like you. Your better off getting reviews from average gamers who play the game and a month later write a review.
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Zichu  +   820d ago
People will only agree with reviews if it suits them.

If Knack didn't get good scores, then it didn't get good scores. Don't make a fuss about it. People only seem to care about scores when they are low and start saying they're full of s*** and it's biased. Then when a game they like gets a good score they spout how good the game is and start showing scores.
Wescyde  +   820d ago
Who cares what these reviewers have to say about the game. I am tired of hearing these people. If the game looks fun to you don't let a review sway you, play it for yourself, its the only way you will ever know.

Lets take KNACK it got horrible reviews, because its almost like a ton of games back in the day, they did not say that but they hinted at all the same things old games did. Having to react to player animations for attacks, timing attacks etc. Don't let someone else JUDGE4U!
DynDasE  +   820d ago
I realize that PS4's launch titles are not great.

All I want to play now is Resogun. :D

However, since Japanese Developers will still provide their games to this system, this is enough for me.

In my opinion, the right time for buying PS4 is when Naughty Dog or Sony Santamonica announce a new game.

P.S. Still better than PS3 launch.. I think.
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gamegenieny  +   820d ago
No one should ever rely on a review score. There have been times where i loved a game and it was seen as a "bad" game. Everyone should try games, you never know what you might find.
On a personal note however, i've chosen to wait it out on these consoles. Once i see more games i'd like to play i'll get them both, but tbh these launch linups aren't pretty. I'll stick to current gen and my PC till more games worth playing come out.
lifeisgamesok  +   820d ago
When XB1 games score better maybe they are just better games

Ever consider that instead of these "being lenient" accusations
SkippyPaccino  +   820d ago
It's all right! We all know only the game of the year games get good scores, the rest of sonys games that don't attain those high criteria will get scored lower... "If it's not a GOTY nominated Sony game it's a 6" that will teach those lazy basterds to put more effort next time.... Now xbone on the other hand "holy crap a new IP! We better give them a great score or they will stop making games"

Seems about right
breakpad  +   820d ago
...Yosp you knew that Knack will not be a killer game, it had not anything special from the beginning ..why you re disapointed ? ? turn around to your country for developping AAA games dont involve westerners at all (Cerny etc etc) you (Japan) know how to do it
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isa_scout  +   820d ago
He never expected it to be a killer game. He actually said he expected it to score around a 70 on metacritic. I think the one he was most dissapointed with was KZ. If I was Yoshida I wouldn't sweat it. If COD outscores BF4 and KZ then you know something is broken when it comes to how journos review their games.
By the way Cerny helped create some of the best platformers in the history of console games...Don't know why you're insuating that Cerny isn't a top tier dev. I honestly think that despite what Yoshida said that Cerny had to focus his attention elsewhere, and because of that Knack suffered.
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leemo19  +   820d ago
It happens, no one should take any review score seriously even if a game gets a 10, its what you think that matters. Its annoying when sites nip-pick the crap out of one game and not do it to another sure, but should that really effect your gaming experience and what you like in a game.
xJumpManx  +   820d ago
You have already seen the COD reviews. Stop whining good grief the Ps4 launch lineipe was weak when they announced it and when Watchdogs was delayed and DriveClub Sony was left with little to nothing compared the to the Xbox One launch. Its how it performs after launch that is important it might just start slow game wise. So tired of this bickering and even more so in blaming other consoles for anothers short comings.
Butters360  +   820d ago
Looking at the grand range of reviews I'm pretty happy with my launch purchases of Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Battlefield 4 and Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag. Launch titles are never 10/10's.

The worst reviews have consistently been coming from Polygon, which have notoriously always given PlayStation Exclusives low scores in order to stand out while preaching a holier than art thou to everyone else.
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isa_scout  +   820d ago
How many articles with the same exact interview do we really need to see? Seriously guys, move on from this topic. Of course he's dissapointed I would be to. The fact that COD outscored KZ is ridiculous.
The only way COD outscores KZ is if KZ is broken, and from all the reviews I've seen no one said it
ruefrak  +   820d ago
If a Mario game didn't have Mario in it, would it score as well? For me it seems like most of the complaints about Knack can be attributed to any Mario game as well, but because everyone loves Mario, it gets a 9/10.
mohuzas  +   819d ago
it's not like there are Mario games who get 4/10 or anything...
Viperoholic  +   820d ago
I dont know if you seen the reviews on Ryce but it got a bad score based on the gameplay. Of course launch games will be a little lower then expected but the technology will advance and once developers get more time with the ps4 it will me a amazing system. just look at the ps3 when it launched with its games and then look at the end of the generation its a huge improvement. I will be getting Killzone and NFS when i get my hands on a PS4. But seriously looking at xbones line up im not impressed.
BLAKHOODe  +   820d ago
I never put too much into reviews. Afterall, they are just one person's opinion and we never know what might be influencing that opinion. I mean, beyond the fanboy rage, how do we know their dog didn't die the day they wrote the review? Maybe they caught their spouse sleeping around? Us readers have no idea. Plus, there are games out there that a lot of people say are amazing, like The Walking Dead, but I'm not into that kind of game, so I would say it sucks. How am I suppose to know if the reviewer is even a fan of the genre he is reviewing?

That's why I'm really liking the Twitch broadcasting feature, because I can actually see the game in action. I'm not playing it myself, but I can get a general idea if it appeals to me or not. To me, that's better than any review I could read.
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