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Playstation 4 - Installing a new SSD

"Peter has replaced the original HDD Sony hard drive with a Samsung SSD. The video shows this trick step-by-step."

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AlexanderNevermind961d ago (Edited 961d ago )

Although I won't be purchasing a SSD (I have the Seagate Hybrid), This video is good for those who want to replace it. Very Helpful

XB1_PS4961d ago

Looks easy, and quick. Awesome.

Why was the playstation wobbling though?

Grown Folks Talk961d ago

It's built that way. The CM guy who got his early talked about it. There's some sort of lip on the edge that makes it slightly uneven.

Anarki961d ago

I've been looking for information on this. I want to know what the max size is for the PS4, as I'm planning on getting the max size possible.

0ut1awed961d ago (Edited 961d ago )

@ Anarki

Well considering the only limitation is the hard drive itself...

http://gizmodo.com/5894934/...

Grown Folks Talk961d ago

From their FAQ
"What type of hard drive does PS4 use?
PS4 is equipped with a 5400 RPM SATA II hard drive. Users can choose to install a new hard drive so long as it complies with these standards, is no thicker than 9.5mm, and is larger than 160GB."

GusHasGas961d ago (Edited 961d ago )

Does anyone know how big (in terms of megabytes) the flash drive has to be?

Please help/respond - I have little experience with swapping hard drives.

AlexanderNevermind961d ago

@GusHasGas

Flash Drive should be no less than 1gb I presume. I doubt you could find a flash drive smaller.

The Recovery file is 850-900mb.

GusHasGas961d ago

@Alexander

Thank you very much!!

pheature960d ago

i agree i like the video i will eventually upgrade it at some point but not instantly.

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decrypt961d ago (Edited 961d ago )

Pointless having a SSD on console. Reason being consoles cant store multiple HDs, niether can the console Trim.

With PC a user may use a cheap small SSD for the OS. Then get a huge HD for games.

With console you would need a super large SSD, which will cost a lot and with the size of next gen games the SSD would end up getting used very quickly. Just better to have a large HD for those 25gb+ installs.

XxGOWxX961d ago

Yeh it seems pretty pointless until the consoles can manage them properly and SSD's are cheaper.

Nice to see for intrigues sake

0ut1awed961d ago (Edited 961d ago )

You make a good point but really the only issue is the price to performance cost on SSDs still. They are coming down quick though.

I plan on putting a 1TB SSD in my PS4 probably within the next 6 months. The performance gains are defiantly still there even without trim enabled.

Also while I do have multiple drives in my PC, I still stick most of my frequently played games on my SSD not my HDD. That would seem like a major waste of a investment to only use it so your OS boots up a little quicker (in a gaming PC at least)

LiQuiZoN961d ago

I also want to point out that the PS4 has SATAII and not SATAIII, which means the newer SSD's would be wasted since the maximum throughput is only 300Gb/s, as opposed to SATAIII which is 600Gb/s.

Those new samsungs doing 540ish read, 520ish write. So the extra speed would be lost. Better to put an older SSD into the PS4 and the newer ones into a PC which has SATAIII.

GameSpawn960d ago (Edited 960d ago )

@LiQuiZoN

For what it is worth though, SATAIII SSDs have also been designed better to have longer lifespans via writes and rewrites. The older SATAII SSDs while cheaper per GB just aren't anywhere near as robust as SATAIII drives made within the last year.

Still though, unless you really want the performance gains over the capacity, conventional(up to 2TB in 2.5") or hybrid drives (up to 1TB+8GB in 2.5") are a far more enticing option for the PS4 than pure SSDs.

I'd love Crucial's 960GB SSD for my PS4, but it is just a little too pricy at around $0.60/GB. Seagate's 1TB+8GB Hybrid drive though is more interesting at $0.12/GB (calculated off the 1TB only & not +8GB as it is used as an SSD cache).

Omeganex9999960d ago

If in 3 or 4 years they get cheaper, I'm definitely gonna go for an SSD too. Right now I have one for the OS in my laptop and I really can't think of going back, it's really stepping into the future.

However, the PS4 is already really fast, I watched some streaming yesterday and it tooks like 30 seconds to install the part of the game you need to start playing. It looks different on the Xbox One, where I think you have to install the whole game before playing. That would definitely improve the Xbox perfomance (too bad you can't switch it).

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Capt-FuzzyPants960d ago

Pretty sure he screwed it, no nailing involved.

Idba961d ago

Wish i had enough money to spend on a 1TB SSD

bicfitness961d ago

The 1TB Samsung is available for a massive discount on Amazon atm. But its basically the price of another PS4. Still a great deal for an SSD though. I am hoping they add TRIM support or that the natural garbage collection on the EVO series does a decent job when the system is shut down. I know that Linux based systems don't fragment as much as Windows ones, so there's that too. In another few years the prices won't be so prohibitive.

Honestly, I nabbed a 250 gig SSD years ago (over 2 now) and slapped it in my PS3 and the performance gains were noticeable. It hasn't suffered any visible degradation in performance either and has never been TRIMmed.

Mogwai961d ago

man so do i hey but a hybrid is much cheaper so hopefully sometime soon we'll find out if they are worth buying for ps4, if it cuts load times at a decent enough rate im investing for sure.

1nsomniac961d ago

I would imagine that with the constant cacheing of the PS4 an SSD would cause more negatives than positives.

Not only would I imagine you'll cause a lot of system stalls but also damage your SSD at twice the speed.

famoussasjohn961d ago

I have yet to purchase an SSD, I've heard there are issues if you add data and remove data a lot that it may cause issues because the drive only has a certain amount of writes to the memory before it starts to die down. This wouldn't be very ideal considering data would be written and removed a lot, right?

1nsomniac961d ago (Edited 961d ago )

I use a Samsung 256gb SSD as my main OS drive in my PC, so only use it for windows & programs. Then I have 2 separate standard drives for games, music & films etc..

Although I absolutely love it & would never choose to go back to HDD. It is a massive pain at times.

As soon as it goes below 50% free space you start getting lock ups or screen artefacts. Exactly the same if your writing a lot of data to it all at one time.

Only way to fix it is a system restart & move data to another drive. For PC usage though the speed difference far outweighs the negatives just don't think it would work effectively long term in a console though.

famoussasjohn961d ago

1nsomniac - Yeah that's what I was hearing too, I was looking at the Samsung SSD's just for gaming on PC but didn't want to deal with the possible issues though the speed increase would be welcomed. Thanks for the info though!

Are_The_MaDNess961d ago

i really cant see a pure SSD working long time with a console.
that is if the console is making cache files and such on the drive under gameplay. witch i have heard the PS4 does. meaning it will take up space when you play a game and such. meaning alot more will be written with normal usage.
SSD's have a limit on how much that can be written on it.
if they somehow make an option in the OS to stop that and just use the pure performance of an SSD then it can work. aslong as you dont rewrite your hole drive like 100 times XD.

SSHD's are much better tho.
as a hybrid drive it will use the SSD part for the most used files, for example your most used game or the OS. meaning you will have faster performance with those files.
all the other files will load just as fast as an normal HDD.
+ its ALOT cheaper than a pure SSD aswell :D

Are_The_MaDNess961d ago

also, you wont have diffrence in performance with an SSD if you have 90% free space or 1% free space. there is no difference. there is no movable parts.

your problem might be software/firmware related or a bad chip in the drive.

got two 240GB ssd's set in raid 0 here and i never see any problems when they have gotten full.

esemce961d ago

Modern SSd's have a life span equal to standard hard drives, the early versions did not.

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TomahawkX961d ago

Wow a lot easier than I expected. If it improves speeds on disc based games I will promptly upgrade to SSHD.

impet25961d ago

With no trim support putting an ssd is pointless.