Second-screen, motion controls, virtual reality; BioWare Montreal's Ian Frazier tells devs how to figure out which ones are right for them
I don't really care if my console has a YouTube app, if it helps me watch TV, if it fries eggs for me while I take a shower. I get a console for gaming, so as long as the gimmicks are a secondary thing, that's fine with me
agreeeeeed i want a gaming console for games..yeah features are cool but at the end of the day games are the #1 reason to buy a gaming console. all things not game related on any console should be secondary. so all features matter but they shouldn't be the main focus of a gaming console.
Most important feature == GAMES!!! Everything else is secondary (but still important).
I care if there is a youtube app, I used it often on the 360. I'm upset there isn't a youtube app on either of my new consoles.
I like the youtube app on the xbox 360 than I do on my phone or computer.
I want a games console not a media centre. Thats what I have a PC for. I do understand that devices these days, we do want them to multitask. But even in that case, you have to get the priorities right. As long as someone designs a games console to be a games console FIRST, its hardware designed to be as good as possible at rendering games, AND then having usable media functions added in afterwards. GAMING should be the PRIMARY function of a GAMES console. I didn't buy a car because it is a nice sound system with the secondary afterthought ability to turn a wheel and drive where I want to go. I bought it because its a good form of transport, if it happens to have a sound system as well then thats a bonus... I don't want them spending a hundred million on perfecting the sound system and then cobbling the rest of the car together for a fraction of that.
in all fairness, i would use the egg frying app more than watching tv or youtube by far
I really care if my console has a YouTube app, if it helps me watch TV, I don't want yet another console with just improved graphics I want a entertainment centre that does lots of things, just gaming is to 1980s, things have moved on, way on.
So, do you mean that you want a phone/PC to watch Youtube and a remote controller to help you watch TV? EDIT: @Below Again, you can do most those things with that cellphone on your pocket. You can do the rest with a remote controller. Yes, it's a nice novelty that you can yell at your TV, but there is nothing gamechanging about that
Check out the X1s UI. I can now play a game snap the game smaller and open youtube for guides to the game cheats maps etc etc. I can now play a game while having soccer results on TV in the top corner or I can keep aware of what is happening in a snooker match. I can now watch normal TV and if a friend comes online and wants to play me in a game they haven't got to phone me to turn my Xbox on it will come right up on the screen. I can answer a phone call through Skype with voice without moving to grab my phone etc. Oh and I can still play a ton of great games by the way. Whats wrong with all that... @below "Apps and other stuff are not very important" Apps seem to be very important to a lot of ppl, check out Android and Iphones. Like I have said earlier. Things move on, theres so many places for gaming now, Tablets, Phones etc. I Want Apps and more features plus I also want games... @fattyUK What? Your smart TV plays Xbox One games! @ heavy, we both know that the X1 UI is not the same as using your phone, come on be sensible...
People used to say the same thing about cell phones, then smart phones came along and now no one can live without them. Gamers are getting older and MS realizes this, they have families and kids, society has grown up too they want everything now and in one package. Why do you think people shell out 300 dollars for a cell phone over a go phone, or get a car that has hands free features, or any other innovation that keeps adding more features to an object.
@easilythebeast I can do all that on my smart tv - and it's not behind a pay wall
@Easily I would agree with your apps talk if console power hadn't been sacrificed in order to try to be everything else. By the way, the PS4 can do many of those app stuff you talk about, while being more powerful and cheaper
@EasilyTheBest What you just described i have been doing this for the last 5 years.I have a 3 montior setup at my PC desk, where my PS3 sits and a DVR box. I can have TV on one, computer on other for "guides" and PS3 on other. All the while having fullscreen for each one.
@youtalking "What you just described i have been doing this for the last 5 years.I have a 3 montior setup at my PC desk, where my PS3 sits and a DVR box. I can have TV on one, computer on other for "guides" and PS3 on other. All the while having fullscreen for each one" As you seem to like that set up its good then that the X1 can do it, all in a more practical way and with the addition of voice and gesture commands. @heavy "I would agree with your apps talk if console power hadn't been sacrificed in order to try to be everything else" Whatever console came out no matter what the power if it did all the other stuff tv voice Kinect etc you could still say that console is losing some of its power doing that extra features stuff so its an unwinnable situation. PS4 cant do half of the X1 UI, it hasnt got Kinect as standard for a start and theres NO HDMI input so all the features now and to come to do with that the PS4 will never be able to do.
You can keep the apps, I'll keep the power. @Death The PS4 is a gaming machine that is not only more powerful (and cheaper) it can also do many of the things the One can. You can watch whatever you want to watch and get an invite, you'll have to put on your workout clothes though, that way you can grab the controller and launch the game yourself, such a pain, right? Can you please tell me what game will be more immersive with Kinect? Because, for what I've seen, you can't do much other than dance or yell at it, a bit more accurately than in the past
xHeavYx, I think you are missing the point. The Xbox One is a game machine that also does other things. This shouldn't be a shock to you since the PS3 did many things besides games and so does the PS4. Can you watch Netflix/LiveTV/Hulu/a Blu-ray etc and still get friend invites on the PS3 or PS4? Belive it or not, some people use their TV's for stuff besides gaming. The idea is connectivity. Is it easier to game when you are always connected to your friends or harder? Sure, you can use your phone to call your friends, but you can also send them a letter in the mail. The concept you are missing is the way to make it easier and more fluid. As for Kinects abilities, just because you choose not to comprehend what it can add, that doesn't mean developers will ignore it too. The idea is to make gaming more immersive. A 1080p native gaming experience sounds nicer than a 1080p upscaled one, but it doesn't make gaming more immersive. Evolving the way we interact with games will.
1080p/60 fps Remote Play Innovative game play we haven't seen. Apps and other stuff are not very important. Its always about the videogames.
1080p, 60fps and remote play have already been done by the Wii U lol.
Finicially supported 1st party studio games!!! oh and ps plus
remote play,better hardware for me
I personally was a fan of the 3D in games. Not much for movies but for games it made them more interesting.
PS4: - Remote Play - Playing for a friend over the internet - Streaming games via Gaikai - Gameplay recording/editing/uploading XBO: - Rumble in the triggers - Cheap access to dedicated servers for developers (Hoping all developers take advantage of that.) - Every console is a dev kit - Gameplay recording/editing/uploading These are just the features I like the most. I hope we see Spotify, Google Play Music, and Pandora apps on both systems, as well.
Free access to dedicated servers for developers through X1. Also, the hands free features are a big deal for me. http://majornelson.com/2013... http://www.destructoid.com/...
remote play gaikai when it comes to europe
Kinect Fitness matters
Multitasking, voice controls, connectivity with other devices, storage...
-games I like -dedicated servers -online experience -freebies -kinect developer emmersion -No Rrod or ylod
All the apps and gimmicks are fine but NOT if they infringe on the core purpose of a console and at the cost of the quality of games. An example I point out is the Kinect 2.0-X1 game quality suffers because of it. I understand there is a small crowd that plays Kinect adventures etc, but a larger crowd plays Call of Duty
The only apps I couldn't do without would be Netflix and Youtube. A quality web browser would be nice. I really hope Chrome heads to PS4, the trackpad would be perfect for browsing. Wouldn't mind the Pulse App too.
Does anyone buy a phone anymore that just makes phone calls? Get real! Of course we want all the gimmicks and bits and bobs. Your either a fool or a lier if you say different. Nobody wants a a gadget these days that has only one purpose and that's a fact.
Dam right Pablo, I am mainly buying X1 for the Kinect and the UI. I loved the original Kinect and had a great time with it even tho I know its looked down on, on this site. I also love controller based games but Im open to anything a bit different, been a gamer too long and seen it all. I defo want as many extra features as possible, half the ppl on this thread must be still on dumb phones by the sound of it... @Death above, good post and good points, the sending a letter made me lol.
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