An opinion piece on Nintendo and the main Mario series that focuses on stagnation of the series, the views of the fans and where the company seems to be going in the future. Delicious anti-Nintendo tears.
fanpie envious that Nintendo is number one over the rest? :(
This guy's tears are delicious. He even mentions the 3DS, which is doing quite well. If you're worried about the 3D hurting you eyes, don't use it.
Nintendo's actual core fanbase is probably in their late 20s-30s. I mean most kids today are moving to Call of Duty crap at 12 and leaving Nintendo in the dust. If anything Nintendo has failed to gain new long term fans by skewing so far towards hold your hand kiddy crap in games. They survive today on nostalgia for a bygone era where their games were actually challenging and cutting edge.
That's really false. Every time I go out, I see some little kid with a 3DS. You assume that every kid is moving on to Call of Duty, but that isn't the case. You're trying to tell me that the 3DS became one of the best selling pieces of gaming hardware on the market right now only because of 20 year olds living on nostalgia?
Well, the kids don't buy the systems. Their parents do. And their parents grew up with Nintendo, in many cases, so they're not unbiased. We've left the age of clueless parents, now. Most of them know about the vidya.
And you think these kids don't ever ask for a 3DS? I mean, it's pretty popular and everybody has one. When I was a kid, I wanted whatever was popular and whatever my friends had. Kids are still like that these days too. You can't seriously think that the only reason kids have a 3DS is because in their parents bought it just because they themselves grew up with Nintendo.
sure they might ask for a 3DS. But I think a growing percentage of sales is down to parents wanting their kids to grow up with the games they grew up with. I'm not saying it's the "only reason". I'm not saying they "don't ever ask". Either you're trying to put words in my mouth, or you're trying to set up straw men. Neither would be very useful.
Excellently put, as someone who used to be a major Nintendo fan, I find that they rely too much on the character and not the game. There is common misconception among Nintendo fans that because they do not focus on graphics, story, or even multiplayer, they focus on gameplay and providing actual games for gamers… This is not the case. Rayman Legends and even Origins have been significantly superior to any Mario platformer. And games like Sound Shapes, or Little Big Planet bring actual new content and innovation to the genre, yet Mario platformers will often involve the same locations, the same enemies, the same mechanics, the same plot, the same everything… But it’s okay because Mario can now wear something new, so it’s focusing on new and exciting gameplay. Nintendo fans seem more or less cultists as of recent. Any sort of fanboyism is bad, but they take the cake, and Nintendo is quite literally the bulletproof company you described. And for pointing this out, you shall expect a large amount of flaming heading your way.
You make a good point. LBP did some amazing things with content creation on consoles. The only problem is that the actual platforming side of things is pretty ropey. Don't get me wrong its an amazing game but there's a tightness to mario that other platfromers lack. Say what you want about their over reliance on stock characters and tropes, but they do bring the best out of the devlopers they work with. Rare are proof of that.
The mario franchise has been milked so bad If mario was a cow he would be broomstick thin
Its time for them to get some new IPs developed in house.. Im starting to think the old guys just dont have it in them anymore to get with the program or even evolve.. I sure hope the new wave of wii u games have more than just cat suits, anti gravity walls, & wii characters appearing in them
This article is complete BS. Each main mario game is totally different to the last. World-64-Sunshine-Galaxy. All superb games, all completely different. These are the same morons who roll up and buy cod every year or completely ignore that there's zero innovation in most other games uncharted three games, exactly the same mechanically, gears the same, halo the same.
Well, not only are you (conveniently, I think) forgetting to mention New Super Mario Bros Wii, NSMBW2, NSMB wii-u, Super mario DS, Super mario 3D land, et al. but you also make some pretty bold claims about video games as a whole. To say there is zero innovation in most other games kind of makes you look like a fanatic, and while you are willing to laud super mario games for being drastically different every time mario gets a new hat, you're not willing to see the differences in storyline, characterisation, setting, tone, world, etc in the games you mentioned. Whether we like these series or not, three uncharted games with the same core mechanics have NOTHING on 35 years of stubborn refusal to progress.
APPLAUSE! THANK YOU! THANK YOOOO! Im so glad someone said it! Nintendo fanboys are the absolute worse at not being able to see past their own nose.
I'm not quite sure if it's an inability to see past their own nose, or a refusal to do so. I've had this debate plenty of times, and the one impression I always walk away with is that these Nintendo fans seem to think that if Nintendo weren't around, gaming would be nothing but "brown and bloom" FPS. It honestly seems like indoctrination by a very, very capable corporation...oh wait.
There isnt. the art forms over reliance on borrowing cinematic tropes over actual core gameplay experiences is killing it. There's only so much you can do with a shooter the same way there's only so much you can do in a platformer. but the fact of the matter is that nintendo have time and again dragged the industry in differnt directions. Modern gaming has so much to thank nintendo for. the first porper open world rpg was zelda, the first game to properly nail 3d movement in a game was mario 64. the fact that they constantly try new things with how we control games whilst sony and ms seem m,ostly vontent with variations on a control scheme thats pushing 20 years old. I could go on. Yeah i'm a bit of a fanboy. but at the same time, i think this article is poorly researched garbage. I can tell from reading that whoever wrote it hasn't so much as touched a wiiU or a 3ds and by their own admittance said they haven't played a mario in years. so why should i take their opinion seriously on a series they haven't played in decades.
Well, there's a knee-jerk reaction if ever I saw one. There have been many awesome games released over the last year that disagree with this, big-budget AND indie. But it seems like you've made up your mind. There is only so much you can do with a platformer, which makes me wonder why Nintendo have been doing the same thing over and over for the last 30 years. There were proper open world RPGs on the ZX spectrum. Many of the old isometric adventures were just that. You're harking back to Nintendo as "The First" because it's what you know, and "Properly nail" just means YOU enjoy it You're giving Nintendo yet more imaginary kudos. Constantly trying new things just doesn't extend to the games, the one thing they should be focusing on. With the poorly-implemented 3D and the waggle distractions, we're given nothing but "new" ways to play the same old rubbish. The writers were never in danger of you ever taking them seriously, anyway. Your mind is firmly made up, and you've been crying about how awful games are in here so much, I wonder if you play anything BUT Nintendo. We're probably done here. I doubt you have much else to say. You should probably take some time out to calm down, anyway.
The New Super Mario Bros games aren't developed by the same team that did Bros. 1-3, World, 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, 3D Land and 3D World
So you count every handheld game, too, that is very smart, because games like Assassins Creed or CoD never got a handheld game, did they? Not only get these games a new sequel every single year, but to compare a 2D Mario with a 3D Mario is just dumb, ok both have Mario in it, but it is about gameplay, you could also mention Super Smash Bros in your list, if that is all that counts. CoD had almost every game on DS and 3DS, just like AC, which basically means, we have at least more than 2 of these games, DLC excluded. But Nintendo is milking Mario, but others do not milk their successful franchises. Talking about the worst, the worst are the ones, who go to other plattforms news and bash every single article of that plattform. Nintendo fans are the worst, where are the Nintendo fans trolling every single PS4 article? We stay where we are, because we like the stuff Nintendo does, you dont, then dont play their games, dont buy their console and be done with it, but you cant, you have to come here and bash every article and it is not always the same troll, it is almost always somebody else. On each side are trolls, but Nintendos trolls, as you might call them, are only defending on Nintendo articles, most dont go anywhere different, but PS4 trolls are always everywhere and call us the worst, because we dont share their opinion ON A NINTENDO ARTICLE. Sorry, but you deserve no respect for your comment. Who is the troll? The one bashing an article of a different plattform, he doesnt even own, or the one, who reads the article , because he owns the plattform, likes it and wants to defend the whole BS, you trolls bring in the comments section. You are the worst and dont even get why. If you dont like Mario, it is as simple as not buying it, but you have the urge to destroy the experience, a Nintendo fan believes to get, with his games, why do you have the need to destroy that? Is their an actual, logical reason, other than beging an absolut egotist and an ass, because of not accepting, others disagree with what you said? Stay on your side if you dont like it, but what the worst is, that people tend to make it seem like, there are soooooo many Maro games out, even though for totally different plattforms, totally different game styles, all that is the same, is it is with Mario and Bowser is probably the boss. Buuhhh huh, actually there is 1-2 of the same Mario game kind, per console generation, but you know what, we are at CoD 10, Xbox360 started with CoD2, that makes 9 CoD on one console. And bringing such things a story of the single player, COD Ghost is only 4 hours long, thats a joke, thats not an argument. I played almost every CoD and can pretty much say, the Multiplayer is all that counts and it did not differ that much, over the last 5 years, only new maps. You guys really are biased, probably not older than 15.
Mario is too overrated.
No i play anything and everything. Most of my favourite games of the year were on the PS3 and indie titles. I think the work David Cage is doing with quantic dream is phenominal, Hotline miami rates as one of the best and most disturbing gmaes i've ever played. I'm currently working my way through arkham origins. Fair enough its the wiiU verison, but i got it because Armored ed had some fun features and i really like off screen play. I just think ragging on nintendo has been done to death, and most of the arguments don't hold much weight at all. Having a go at nintendo for making mario games is like taking shots at disney for using mickey mouse or making animated films about princesses. The fact of the matter is there are reason's why Nintendo's pantheon endure and its not just fanboyism.
For someone who grew up with Mario and has played game after game with him throughout the years, I understand where his argument is coming from. But Mario exists also for the kid who just today is playing a Mario game for the first time. My daughter loves the Mario games (right now she' working her way through Mario64 on an old N64). There is something very appealing about these games and the characters, so while I may be burned out on it, she isn't. And this goes for millions of other kids as well. That's why they need to keep making these games.
I think the character and universe of Mario are done to death, but most of the games at least try something different with each new iteration. It seems that a lot of people confuse the character with the games, especially since Mario spans almost every genre.
This article is more focused on bashing Nintendo fans than making any sort of logical argument or possible solution to this proposed problem.
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