Eskimo Press: "The most popular Call of Duty: Ghosts map, Strikezone, is nothing more than Modern Warfare 3 map that has been re-textured and rotated. Does this warrant your attention?"
This is why the sales are dwindling.
Rightfully so. Paying $60 for the same game you've been buying since 2007. Tsk tsk.
Wow its not just this its a combination of things that just shows this game is the laziest installment of COD by far. Reminds me how years ago Madden went down hill, yep looking at you EA.
not only that, they will probably release ACTUAL maps from previous installments as dlc. *sigh*
Agreed. Chaps my backside! I did notice some of the MP maps felt familiar... And now SP, similar to the previous installment controversy. Explains the "same engine" crap.
Ya what the hell do they do for 2 years. 2 years should be more than enough time.
even though I could care less about this game, I dont know why this comes as a surprise to anyone. Its called being resourceful, pretty much any game or movie made now a-days does the same thing.
the is why few days after released they are giving it for trading ANY games at FutureShop, i got 1 yestereday after trading a game "Genji"..lolol
I agree Microsoft suck, PS4 for life!! Xbox can't even do 1080p at 60f.... oh it's not a "Microsoft bash" on N4G? Is it April 1st? I kid with love peeps. I agree it's a lazy port from Activision but I think it's always the case when a new generation is looming. They have to hash together a game to suit both generations and they will always cut corners. Every game I'm getting for the PS4 and Xbox One are exclusives. All the others I'll play on my 360/PS3
Where do I sign the petition?
Really? I dont think Activision's pocket books are hurting to much. This is why sales are dwindling? Its not the first time they have done this, didnt hurt the sales of previous games. Sales are down for the same reason all other current gen sales are down, a new console cycle is coming lol.
If it's because the new gen is coming explain gta v sales.
GTA V is out now on current gen, and hasn't even been announced for next gen. That is the biggest reason GTAV has done so well at the end of this Gen, if it had been announced for next Gen aswell , I would be willing to bet that GTAV wouldn't have sold so many copies initially.
I don't think its because new gen is coming.. towards the end of a consoles cycle there is a huge installed user base. The reason for slight drop in interest is simply because it is getting stale.. period.
Why do you care so much about how much they made? I see this sort of nonsense all the time from people...."It made money, so your complaints are irrelevent". Nope, sorry, not how it works. Appeal to authority on the basis of financial success is more than a little sad. You shouldn't care about that, ypou should care about the fact that the developers have released a shoddy, unoptimised game. And while they were doing that, they were taking the easy way out and reskinning old assets and hoping no-one would notice. It's phenomenally lazy design, and smacks of a desperate cash grab sequel that a dev churns out while on it's last legs. Infinity Ward is a shell of it's former self, and it shows.
There is a reason they didnt announce and even denied pc/next get versions of GTA5, so sales wouldnt be hurt. @dennett Are you fucking kidding me, I am not defending CoD at all, I hate that game more then any fucking game on the planet. It literally ruined and entire generation of shooters and is the reason why there isnt a single shooter game made for my tastes any longer. I was simply saying consumers are dumb enough that they can do whatever the hell they want, as long as CoD is in the title. THEY HAVE RE-USED resources before! It is not the first time, so I was simply saying that is not why sales are being hurt. MW3 broke all kinds of records and had plenty of rehashed assets.
Sledgehammer : "Mw3 is a 'COMPLETELY NEW' game, if you put Mw2 next to Mw3, you would see a HUGE difference between the two" hmmmmmmmm.... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
The fools who bought this trash deserve what they get.
You have a hilarious definition of the word dwindling. The game is still going to sell north of 15 million copies. Only being bested by GTA 5. A game that only comes out every 5 years. Billions will still be made and nothing will change. If that is dwindling then games like Bioshock Infinite and Last of Us that only clear about 4 million must be doing terrible. Like it or not Call of Duty is still in a league of its own. Even if they don't live up to the highest points of sales in the series It still sits miles above the competition in terms of sales.
This same issue was present in MW3 where they used several buildings from MW2.... People who buy these games don't have the attention span to even realize this... Their sales are dwindling because people are tired of the same old thing. Good.
Yep, but what about the dog or the intelligent fish systems? xD
While we're at it, let's not forget to say fuck IGN.
yea i doubt people are not buying it so much , just because some textures. 90% cod players don't know what texture is..
this shouldn't come to anyone as a surprise.
and the sad part is that people still buying this crap even on the next gen and not the standart edition but the hardned edition O.O
I'm not defending them but at least ghosts looks better, some of the details are pretty ok imo:S I didn't buy the game I bought bf4 instead but the graphics really dont seem half bad, I'm seeing very smooth edges and round ones, with pretty nice lighting and reflections:S I'm just saying. It's still a lazy rehash but I think the engine did sort of evolve, it seems the outside team they called in did a decent job with old tech.
Sort of see it. Meh.
The same case was in MW3 iirc, they used the same buildings models.
If that isn't lazy.... I don't know what is.
Fifa 12 and 13 for vita.
The last 20 madden games.
FIFA period, I understand people who can't stand EA for I have slowly watched them destroy one of the last genres I enjoy playing that doesn't make me feel like a 12 yr old. FIFA 14 is pure and utter garbage after what had been a steady buildup in previous versions.
I don't think its wrong for a developer to see that a certain map is very popular then use it as a template for a map in their next game. To me, the map overlay wasn't identical enough for me to call this just a copy and paste.
I am sure I will still have fun with this game when I get my PS4, but I am indeed glad I rented this game instead of purchasing it.
Entire series is recycled from Modern Warfare onward... To an extent, it was acceptable, but it got dull fast a long time ago in my opinion.
Call of duty is becoming like Dynasty Warriors
I'm a Koei Warriors fan and even Dynasty Warriors has a lot more variety with each game than CoD does.
Funny thing is, when people used to criticize COD games for being copy-paste, they didn't know it was LITERALLY copy-paste.
Talk about call of duty..wat about fifa and nba...
Agreed in a certain degree on that but lets not forget they are Sports games and you cant change much. just graphics, AI and animation. But on shooters you can do a whole lots of things, cause they dont have rules like sports games if you get what I mean. You can do whatever your imagination says.
Call of Duty always recycled maps. They did the same thing in Modern Warfare 1 and 2.
I think with 1 and 2 it was a paid optional dlc that had old maps I believe, but the new ones were truly new from what I remember.
I hate when people call developers lazy.... But damn this really looks well LAZY!!
Infinity Ward really doesn't give a crap. They're so lazy. I wish treyarch would just take over the franchise.
I'm pretty sure this has been happening for a few years now with cod. I dont think its a dealbreaker, nobody plays this for its originality.
Take notes Treyarch. Gamers are watching.
$60 glorified map pack
Not surprised...the reuse of assets to maximise profitability has always been embedded into Activisions infrastructure.
Campaigns short as hell & multiplayer is dog shit.. Poor, very poor...
DOG shit. Lol
I don't think IW is lazy, I mean they did lose over 50% of the staff and most of them were the creative minds behind COD. That and Activision does not let them take an extra year or two to build a better game. They should either add another studio to break up the every other year between IW and Treyarch or skip a few years and let both teams make a better game. I don't like Treyarch COD's it feels like a cheap version of MW. Lets hope Titan Fall can get everyone off of COD and force Activision to change.
I saw a video showing that a whole animation sequence was reused from MW2. That's the essence of laziness man. I stopped playing after MW2 because of all the hackers and cheaters on the PS3 no less. And now that I've seen how lazy and rushed they've become, there's no way I can support Activision. 1 COD game a year needs to stop. They need to stop being lazy, make a new game engine, and start from scratch. Next-Gen isn't a joke. High res textures aren't going to cut it. People want something new and fresh and Activision obviously keeps throwing the same crap at gamers every year. Finally, people are getting tired of it. Activision can't keep doing this if people don't buy the game.
Um...the layout is similar, but there are a LOT of differences and changes. You guys need to untwist your panties. Oh and btw, Dome is better.
Ghost and BF4 are ok on current gens but i agree the re-use of the maps is getting old and the truth is that these games are only 10 more if you go to the next gen for a reason...tan tan tan and thats because they are not true next gen games...Gasp and waits to see if this account will be banned for speaking the truth.. But on a side note they really did an ok job on the online part but i feel they keep dropping the ball...well heck i would too if you notice a wad of cash on the floor while you were playing the game.
All these COD haters who actually take the time to find all these "sins" of Activision lol. Jesus Christ, just play the game or not. I am 100% positive every game company recycles animations, backdrops, camera angles etc... If COD is so god damn awful, why waste your time finding these things?
I saw a lot of the same animations between Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 and nobody gives those games crap.
Keep buying it morons, they could literally announce that next year there will be a Black Ops 3 will be 95% the same as Black Ops 1 and all the meatheads would be on N4G saying how it's the same.
COD is a big mess. off topic: The next metal gear game would've turned out the same way. If you look closely in metal gear solid 5 demos you will notice that Konami reused textures in MGSV. The lighting was turned up very high to masked the textures so anyone wouldn't notice it. The last few screen shots of MGSV I noticed a lot of improvement, especially the textures.
New coat of paint. What else is new. Gateway MT6706 2008
This is no surprise as they always recycle everything.
Hey guys. Serious question here. To those of you who have played Ghosts but aren't COD fanboys, would you recommend the game soley for its Survival and Extinction modes? I really didn't like Black Ops 2 zombies when compared to the previous Zombies installments. But I did think that MW3s survival mode was a million times better than repetitive Zombies. With Targets buy 2 get 1 free on all games for all platforms, I might just pick up Ghosts as my free game if you guys can give your honest opinion on Survival and Extinction because I don't really care about COD campaigns or multiplayer.
The engine reminds me of diahrrea from an old person after eating a kilo of kiwis and a liter of prune juice. Nexus 7 2013
is anyone really surprised by this? I mean its COD lol
so? it's still more fun than any other military shooter. extinction mode is a blast!
how come i dont hear poeple complaining NBA 2k is not repetetive, if using Kobe Bryant for the last 13 years isint repetetive i dont know what is
Big friggin' deal. Who cares?
This is why I've been calling it a $60 map-pack. Glad I didn't buy it.
rape isn't a harsh enough term for what this moronic devs are doing to this franchise, i would happily pay just for respawn entertainment to take back the cod franchise
Information is appreciated but it wont kill a game which continues to strive. Yes its disappointing I agree, but at this point in the game you should know what CoD will bring to the table and anyone who is expecting a brand new game should probably be looking for a game not with the main title "Call of Duty" if you haven't liked the previous games then you should probably not buy or or play them. If you have then you probably will still enjoy the new things such as create a class and perks they add the natural evolution of the game without taking too big of risk to not make sales. Enjoy it or don't just leave it at that this sense of entitlement everyone has grown to feel they deserve these days is getting out of hand and to you people if you don't like what Developers are doing how about you go make your own game...oh and btw if your not a indie Dev your probably gonna get heat from your employer aka the Publisher to meet certain criteria in order to pull interest of a broader masses of people for sales...these guys don't have the freedom we think. Time to stop complaining and if you really want to make them change just don't buy their games. This stuff is pointless.